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October 14, 2010

Basketball Notes

Filed under: Alumni,Basketball,Coaches,Dixon,Good,Players — Chas @ 10:23 am

Did you know that today is Pitt’s Media Day? And I didn’t get an invite. Shocking, I know. Well, that means there should be some more local stories tomorrow. In the mean time, here are some other things to note.

Everyone has probably seen, read and digested the Jamie Dixon piece from the P-G over the weekend. Nice one. I hope Coach Dixon stays a long time at Pitt, not just because he is an excellent coach and appears to be a great guy. But because it would mean Pitt basketball is still thriving. Check out Pitt Script’s take on things.

SI.com has slide shows of top-16 frontcourts, freshmen and backcourts. Pitt only makes one of the lists with the backcourt checking in at #7.

Ashton Gibbs, Brad Wanamaker, Travon Woodall, Gilbert Brown

Gibbs (pictured, 15.7 ppg, 39.0 percent threes) and Wanamaker (12.3 ppg, 35.7 threes) emerged as one of the Big East’s best guard duos last season, powering the Panthers to surprise tie for second place in the league. Neither Gibbs, a junior, nor Wanamaker, a senior, was an ultra-hyped recruit, but they’re finally earning recognition: Pitt is likely to begin this season ranked in everyone’s top 10.

And that leaves out Epps and Moore. Both of whom could provide a serious impact in the rotation. Syracuse gets checked on all three, yet they are behind Pitt and Nova (#4 in backcourt).

In case you haven’t been e-mail bombed by Pitt’s athletic department, NBA exhibition basketball at the Pete tonight between the Cavs and Spurs. In other words, puff piece time for DeJuan Blair. The P-G piece talks about his weight loss. The San Antonio homecoming story discloses that he’s going to put it all back on while in Pittsburgh.

When Blair decided to turn pro at the end of that season, Dixon told him, “You’re probably not going to be drafted where you ought to be drafted. But you’re used to that.”

Dixon was prophetic. Because of concerns about his knees, Blair slipped to the second round. Passed over by 29 teams, Blair used that slight as motivation during his rookie year.

Now Blair is back in Pittsburgh, poised to play his first game at Petersen Events Center since leaving school.

Blair spent most of Wednesday tooling around the old neighborhood, and he had plans to visit Pitt’s practice. He was also ready for his first home-cooked meal in months.

“I told my mom, ‘Just make everything,’” he said.

I do imagine that Blair is going to be having a good time tonight playing once more at the Pete.





SI also has top 16 defenders, with Gil Brown at #12, interestingly.
It raises something I think would be good for debate — is Gil Brown an NBA draft pick? He’s getting some publicity and ‘draftexpress.com forecasts him being the #23 pick of the draft. Maybe teams will learn from last year about the value of Pitt players, given the evidence that Blair (definitely) and Young (maybe) were steals.

It’d be good for the program if Brown did get drafted. Pitt will get plenty of media coverage and the media will be looking for a more exciting star than Gibbs. So Gil’s likely the guy to get highlighted. If he evens out his play from last year, the stars may align and his draft stock may soar.

link to sportsillustrated.cnn.com

Comment by PantherP 10.14.10 @ 5:01 pm

unless he really has a breakout year offensively, I can’t see Gilbert being drafted … however would not be at all surprised to seem him brought in to an NBA camp

Comment by wbb 10.14.10 @ 6:59 pm

NBA Scouts are all about potential and they see Gil as a guy who has a ton of it. They’ve seen him go on scoring streaks and make ridiculously athletic plays. Someone will draft him

Comment by Tony Cancilla 10.14.10 @ 11:09 pm

there is zero chance of Gilbert Brown being drafted. he’s got to be 23 or 24 by now, so the potential horse has left the barn — in fact, he’s older than a solid percentage of NBA players.

just not much market for 6’5″ guys who don’t handle the ball well or shoot it from deep……I don’t care how good an athlete or defender he is.

Comment by hugh green 10.15.10 @ 9:37 am

I don’t necessarily think an NBA team SHOULD draft him, but I do think its a sure possibility someone WILL.

He’ll be about the same age Young was when drafted. His outside shot is about the same as Young’s. Arguably he’s a better ball handler and better defender.

Comparably, the draft class is weaker this year than the past two years, so the door opens a little. Considering that many NBA’ers believe, in hindsight, Sam should’ve gone earlier in the draft they may be seriously considering Brown.
Im predicting mid-second round, provided the Panthers make it to at least the sweet 16.

Comment by PantherP 10.15.10 @ 10:19 am

Gil will need to show more consistency in his game, something Sam did in both his Junior and Senior years. So, I agree with wbb.

Comment by TampaT 10.15.10 @ 3:12 pm

don’t agree with the sam young comparison. sam young made himself into a decent shooter, moving his range further out every year at pitt.

watching gilbert shoot is painful. the wind-up, the ugly release……

plus, there’s a lot of halfcourt in the NBA these days, which doesn’t suit brown’s game.

plenty of leagues to play in, though. he’ll get paid playing somewhere, but it’ll be somewhere you didn’t know they had a league.

Comment by hugh green 10.15.10 @ 3:56 pm

Sam’s shot was more consistent. If Gil can prove he’s got a reliable jumpshot, however weird it looks, it’ll be a huge difference. Otherwise, his game doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses. It just doesnt have any meal-ticket attributes either (like Blair’s rebounding, etc).

Comment by PantherP 10.15.10 @ 4:24 pm

Gilbert Brown was one of the biggest underachievers in Pitt history and people are talking about the NBA? Goodness.

Comment by Mark 10.15.10 @ 5:36 pm

gil brown will play in the NBA if he has a decent year. There I said it. How hard is it to imagine that he’ll be in the NBA someday. He has the size and athleticism. What else does it take? Goodness, Mark? Why is this hard to believe. He’s got the tools and he’s been a decent player for Pitt. Goodness?

Comment by johnnyrocket 10.15.10 @ 6:26 pm

Decent player and athletic is not good enough for the NBA. There are hundreds of such players. You clearly don’t know the level it takes to be in the NBA.

Comment by Mark 10.15.10 @ 10:13 pm

Draft Express has Gilbert as the #23 pick in the 2nd round, not overall.

There are definitely not hundreds of such players who are as physically ready for the NBA now as he is. At 6’6”, he’s right at NBA wing player height and he’s solidly built, physically strong, and a way above average leaper. And he’s got a decent first step. This all makes him a very versatile defender. As the SI blurb says, he’s capable of defending a range of positions because of his size, speed, and athletic ability. He won’t be able to match up with NBA power forwards, but as a perimeter and wing defender, he can be excellent. And his strength and long arms would help him in post-up situations. Offensively, he’s a good off-the-pass shooter. His awkward shooting style at least means he won’t get blocked often. He doesn’t really shoot well off the dribble though. And he’s got a good first step to the basket, but relies too much on tucking the ball in, going strong, and getting to the line. Which is good, but you can’t do that every time. With his athletic ability, it might be better if he can learn to use his left hand more. He goes right way too often when he drives….He’s not a strong ball handler, but I don’t see him getting it swiped away often. Anyway, ballhandling is not going to be something that is going to prevent an athletic wing player from getting into the NBA. It’s going to be his defensive and offensive versatility. He can cover many positions, can shoot, can get to the line, and can finish in transition above the basket. There aren’t really that many players that can do all that.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all for him to be on NBA draft “watch” lists at this time. Throughout his career, he’s had some big games and flashes of athletic brilliance in Big East games. It’s not the NBA, but it’s still a high level of basketball. With a strong senior year, I could definitely see him getting looks from the NBA, if not an outside chance of getting drafted.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 10.16.10 @ 2:47 am

Silver panther, good point, 23rd in 2nd round not overall.
It’ll interesting to see if he’ll plateau like Young did his final year, or if he’ll take one more step — which might be all it’d take in this draft class. Its not out of the question given how Pitt players typically do improve year to year under Dixon. Having a full season can’t hurt either in terms of establishing his consistency and role on the team — as opposed to last year when the team had to establish roles without him, forcing him to get in where he fit when he returned. Doing these things and stepping his game up just one more step would be huge for Pitt and very well could place him solidly in the 2nd round of the draft. But it’s definitely not certain — he’s borderline draftable, which is why it’s interesting debate.

Comment by PantherP 10.16.10 @ 12:07 pm

If Gilbert gets drafted, then it will most certainly be in the second round. Sam Young was twice the player Brown was, and as good of an athlete, with two solid years of stats to prove it. Additionally, he almost took the Panthers to the Final 4. He was fantastic on the big stage and remarkably consistent offensively. He was a Wooden All-American his senior year. Point being, Sam was drafted in the second round because of his age. Gilbert will be approximately the same age as Sam. Unless he has an unprecedented year, then he will struggle to get drafted in the second round.

Comment by Omar 10.18.10 @ 7:44 pm

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