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May 25, 2011

This is a guy that lived in a hotel for his single year in Stillwater. A guy regularly pounding Red Bulls during games. A bachelor. A disciple of Mike Leach. A guy already with a reputation for enjoying the party a bit. Oh, and he works at a school that already employs Bob Huggins.

With all of that, does anyone really think that he is facing any real problems? Or is he simply trying to fit in?

Multiple sources told the Charleston Daily Mail Holgorsen was removed from Mardi Gras Casino & Resort after 3 a.m. May 18. Holgorsen had been at a Mountaineer Athletic Club function earlier in the day in Logan before spending the evening at the casino with other university representatives.

Holgorsen’s behavior allegedly reached a point that necessitated involvement from on-site security, sources said. Holgorsen was escorted out of the casino with the episode caught on surveillance. University representatives who were with Holgorsen were said to have then intervened. No arrest was made.

Police records indicate Metro 911 received a call from the casino at 3:13 a.m. that night. A “white male” was said to be “refusing to cooperate with the casino’s management.” Casino supervisors had the male detained at the time.

The Nitro Police Department was dispatched to the scene. The official records do not say what happened next, but it’s believed Holgorsen was released under the supervision of those he was with.

In other words, no charges filed.

Surprisingly, this actually has an impact. The Big East meetings canceled their last day of AD meetings because WVU AD Ollie Luck felt he needed to return to Morgantown to address this.

Unless there is more to the story than this, I doubt this does much more than burnish his party image. Maybe a wrist slap, but considering he was hand-picked by AD Luck, I don’t see too much more happening.

When Pitt was reportedly looking at Holgorsen, one spin after he went to WVU as Coach-in-Waiting was that Pitt was interested but his party rep had him nixed by Chancellor Nordenberg. While I am not sure about the veracity of the story, this incidence lends a veneer credence to it.





I live in Dallas and have followed this guy’s antics for awhile.

He might be a great offensive mind but his judgement is very questionable. This guy has plenty of issues, he could be the second coming of Billy Gillespie.

He will fit in well with the hoopie culture but he will wear out his welcome over time with the powers in Morganhole.

Comment by WLAT and the Big Beat! 05.25.11 @ 12:28 pm

O.T. Kevan Smith did it again. This time in today’s Big East Tourney.

link to bigeast.org

Comment by BigGuy 05.25.11 @ 12:41 pm

This is great, I really want to know what he did. Probably lost a ton at craps and then decided it would be a good idea to throw the dice at the boxman or something.

Comment by BnG 05.25.11 @ 12:42 pm

I like it, adds some more gas for the fire. Should be some fun the next few years with him and Graham. Hopefully they’ll both be playing for something at the end of the year with TCU.

Comment by Dan 05.25.11 @ 4:08 pm

This one is too easy. It’s like an unlimited arc softball pitch.

Comment by Cool Hand Nuke 05.25.11 @ 5:09 pm

has anyone heard anything about pitt recruiting a linebacker from orville, ohio named mason monheim? i went to school with his sister and she said they have interest in him, but havent offered yet.

Comment by Dave Pierre 05.25.11 @ 6:31 pm

link to rivals.yahoo.com

Orrville, home of Smuckers and (I believe) the next PSU BB coach

anyway, the link above does not show Pitt as a team of interest, however, being that he is drawing inteerst from the likes of Illinois and Wisconsin among others, I wouldn’t be surprised if Pitt had contacted him

Comment by wbb 05.25.11 @ 7:06 pm

yeah i saw the recruiting page and saw that pitt wasnt one of the ones listed. he seems to be drawing some nice interest from some big ten schools though.

Comment by davee 05.25.11 @ 9:27 pm

Dana is a liabililty he takes too many risks and sooner or later it will catch up with him.

Comment by Nightmare between 5th & Forbes 05.25.11 @ 9:39 pm

$50 that he was causing a seen to stifle casino security from catching Huggy Bear counting cards…ala The Hangover. Maybe he’ll show up to the press conference missing a tooth too.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 05.25.11 @ 10:31 pm

Sounds to me, Holgy will be in excellent drinking partner for Thuggy Bear. They can make junkets together to two bit casinos all over the Tri-State area. With limited hotels in Morganhole, they must have Holgy holed up in the bridal suite at the Days Inn. Holgy is pissed though, Days Inn has no mini-bar, even in the bridal suite and Holgy has to changes his own linens. So much for big time college football in West (by God) Virginia.

Comment by melvinbennett 05.26.11 @ 10:11 am

Army and Navy, football only, and pick one, UCF,Houston, ECU or Villanova to get to 12!!!

Other than going to Big Ten, ACC, or Big East splitting, best idea I’ve seen yet!!! If were still going to be some conglomerate mess of a helter skelter league, can’t beat the West Point and Annapolis road trips!!!

No, no news, just that some feelers from Big East may be sent to them for football only membership.

Yes, they may decline, but, with a big payday coming next fall from t.v., and getting their football in a BCS, the generals and admirals will be doing some thinking!!!

I’ve said this for years about the service academies!!!! Goes back to the original Eastern football conference, that, they would have been members in, had Penn St and Pitt not had a pissy fit. Yes, both are too blame. “Oh, they did this”, “they did that”, they both blew it 30 years ago. Could you imagine today:

Pitt
Penn St
WVU
Syracuse
Boston College
Rutgers
UCONN
Army
Navy
Temple
Villanova

Holy cow, and Eastern football conference, with, holy sh#t, Eastern football schools, what a friggin’ novel idea!!!

Yes, I know UCONN and Villanova were not part of the original Eastern Independents, just saying, today.

For your twelvth?? Who knows, Notre Dame may have been scared into it back then, Virgina Tech, whatever, try to steal Maryland back then, who knows.

Yes, they both, and all others blew it!!!

Am I living in the past, yes, and it’s my right to choose to do so!!!! LOL!!!

Anyhow, would love to see the Academies, solely for the purpose of great road trips and great tailgating!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 11:34 am

Yes, Chas, I know, I said I was off the expansion news, but, Army and Navy piqued my interest again.

Don’t worry, won’t happen, anything I like doesn’t happen. We’ll still be at 9 Football and 45 basketball schools in 2031!!!

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 11:36 am

While the eastern conference looks fine, face it … never going to happen. PSU makes way too much $ from its FB program with its present B10 affiliaation and even BC is not likely to join because of the lucrative ACC TV deal.

Further, had an eaatern sports coinference formed, it would never had come close to what the BE BB conference has become .. not even close. Remember, aside from Syracuse, it was the non-football schools that was responsible for building BE BB into what it now is. Georgetown, Nova, St John’s, Providence (and Cuse) all made the Final 4 at least once in the 80s and were pricipally responsible for being recognized as a major player.

Comment by wbb 05.26.11 @ 12:09 pm

I don’t mind the addition of Army/Navy. They won’t be very good but they bring a ton of tradition and everyone is going to be rooting for them to do good. Also, classy fans.

Comment by BnG 05.26.11 @ 1:42 pm

wbb, no, no, you didn’t read the end of my post. I have no illusions, hell, I don’t have any illusions that they’re gonna get it right with whatever they do in the next year.

I said, “living in the past”, and how both Pitt and Penn St, and whoever was involved all blew it. You always hear different stories, bunk on that, they all blew it.

You always hear about how people in high positions, are real thinkers, see the big picture, and really look into the future. Steve Pederson is a “visionary”, they used to say. Not back then, and, why, today, always look at people in big positions, not as God’s, just guys that have jobs. Hopefully they do a good job and that’s all you can hope for.

There were no visionaries back then, and if someone lays blame on one group, they are incorrect, visionaries would have handled it together.

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 5:52 pm

wbb, I grant you about the Big East. However, playing the devils advocate, had Pitt, PSU, WVU, Syracuse, BC et al had formed their own conference, the Big East, allthough great years, especially from those teams, would not have sustained, and formed what has become the Big East now.

They would have just been a little group of 5 or 6 schools that could play hoops. Would have never morphed into what it is now.

I also believe the hoops could have been very good, and, more to the point, we would have had and Eastern football conference, that would have rivaled, if not better, at times, the Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 12. Don’t think anyone will ever touch the SEC, but, the Eastern football conference would not be a laughing stock, and the butt of jokes, would have been a major player.

Again, just thinking about the past, that’s all, that was effed up years ago, never to be.

Hopefully they put something together, and, at the very least, hearing about the academies, at least shows me they are thinking, at least a little bit.

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 5:59 pm

I don’t know Dan,

The only school in there(your Eastern League) that has a national reputation is State Penn. And State Penn over the last 20 years, is not the same State Penn that it was from 1967 to 1987. The last 20 year version of State Penn wouldn’t have made that much of a difference in the nations regard of your Eastern League. Having a team with a much bigger national image over the last 20 years in football, that being Miami, certainly didn’t do a whole lot for the Big East’s national image in football. And we had Va Tech as well, which over the last 20 years has also been better than anyone in your Eastern League. The BigEast with Miami, Va Tech & BC was a very good league and if you still had those 3 schools and you add a TCU to the mix, then you have:

Miami
Virginia Tech
TCU
PITT
WVU
Boston College
UConn
Louisville
Cincinnati
USF
Rutgers
Syracuse

You have your 12 teams to split into two 6 team division, which leads to a Big East Championship game and another big Payday for the League.

Losing Miami, VT & BC was a bigger blunder for a
very good Eastern League(the Big East), than the cat fight between PITT & State Penn that stopped the Eastern League from ever forming. IMHO

Comment by melvinbennett 05.26.11 @ 6:51 pm

You may be right Melvin. However, in the 80’s, I believe, no, I know, Pitt and Penn State were perrenial top 5 teams, definitely national. I also believe Syracuse, BC and WVU are national teams.

Also, with the cohesiveness of a true conference, would have lifted everyone up, IMHO.

You are correct about the loss of Miami and Va.Tech.

Just always been my wish. A real conference, and geographically correct. Hey, just my own personal preference. Think they would have held up.

Moot point though, just fun to talk about in the down time of college football.

Hey, you’re on here, and I’ve gotten to know you a bit from here.

What is your guess, not what you want to happen, what will the Big East look like Sept. 2012.

I say, same as it is now, with Villanova having been offered, and accepting, for a few years down the road.

Your thoughts??

Don’t get mad at us Chas’, just bs’ing the time away till Sept!!! LOL

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 11:02 pm

No, not an old fuddy duddy, early 40’s, maybe I am. Dad took me to Pitt Stadium as a child in the 70’s and 80’s, guess that’s why I’m stuck on that.

I am looking forward to TCU, and hoping Pitt, WVU, and TCU can have some real barnburners that actually matters nationally.

Comment by Dan 05.26.11 @ 11:04 pm

@ Dan….Sept. 2012. wait….let me get my crystal ball out and wipe off the dust.

Yes,….yes…. I see a young local running back from Hopewell rushing for an incredible 303 yards against Notre Dame and then I see…. a year or two later, Pitt wins the National Championship with an undefeated record.
Oh wait a minute, I had this Crystal Ball in ‘The Past’ mode.

Oh, there we go….’The Future’ mode…..the first Saturday in Sept., 2012. I see Pitt playing a team with a ‘V’ on it’s helmets. Is it the ‘Visitors’? No……They have a very small contingent of fans in the visitor section of Heinz Field, like maybe 100 people, including their 20 member band. I can hear some of them speaking, they mostly seem to have Philly accents, yes…one is even criticizing the cheese steak at Heinz. Seems to be a lot of whining & criticizing of their own team. I can see ,,,,yes a button on one, saying Nova. It’s Villanova playing Pitt on the first Saturday in Sept., 2012.

But rest easy….it’s a non-conference game !

Comment by melvinbennett 05.27.11 @ 11:39 am

My other Crystal Ball says the BigEast will look like this in Sept. 2012.

USF, Cincy, L-ville, UCF, Memphis, Villanova, Army,
Navy, TCU & ECU. (conference has now been de-certified as an Automatic Qualifier)

Pitt & Uconn have accepted offers from the Big 10.
(after Diaper Joe finally meets his maker)
WVU & Syracuse have accepted offers from the ACC.
Rutgers decides to take Villanova’s Division 2 spot in the Colonial League.

Comment by melvinbennett 05.27.11 @ 11:54 am

Seriously Dan,

It will probably look identical to what it looks like now. Unless ND & BYU want to join. If they do, add those two to the present mix. The likely hood of both of those two joining is currently running at 99.99999999999999999999% against.

So that means, it will probably happen. lol

Comment by melvinbennett 05.27.11 @ 12:03 pm

Next headline:

Holgorsen Photographed Burning Couch After 1st Victory

Mad Hoopie Love…LOL

Hail to Pitt

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