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February 22, 2017

Tossing this up a bit early. Will be a tight window to get home for the start of the game.

7pm, various RSNs (ROOT, YES, NESN, Multiple FOX Sports) and ACCN Extra/WatchESPN.

I was watching a some games last night — Clemson-VT and Indiana-Iowa, primarily — and it seemed like half the conversation between the announcers (and 100% when they went to the studios) was about how teams needed this win to get off or stay on the bubble. They were talking about 4-10 (now 4-11) Clemson  in the ACC and the now 5-10 in the B1G, Indiana.

I know that bubble talk is always a big driver of interest late in the season. Especially in games with middling to below-average programs. But it is making me a little crazy. I swear, when 6-20 Mizzou was playing their best game of the season against Kentucky (ultimately losing), the game calling crew started talking about how if the Tigers kept this up and made a deep run in the SEC Tournament…

STOP!

There is no basis in reality, but the talking point is all about the bubble. I know in the cases of Indiana (big non-con wins) and Clemson (great numbers in statistical analysis). But in the end these are not good teams. Indiana between injuries and horrid inconsistency. Clemson is just good enough to lose. Painfully, heartbreakingly (possibly Faustian in nature for college football, but I can’t be sure), but still losses. Over and over again.

So, here’s Pitt tonight. 4-10 in the ACC. At Wake Forest — a team, legitimately on the bubble — and I will be subjected to hearing how Pitt is on the bubbble. Sure. Win the rest of their games to finish 19-12, 8-10 in the ACC. With what would include wins over Marquette, Maryland, UVA (twice), FSU and UNC. Then win at least one game in the ACC Tournament. Yeah, then Pitt’s got a good shot.

But not now. Right now, Pitt is a middle-of-the-pack NIT seeded team. Really bad losses to NC State, Clemson and Duquesne. And flat out embarrassing blowout losses to Miami and Louisville.

Okay, done ranting.

How’s going to beat Wake Forest?

That includes more contributions from the little-used bench, less freedom on offense and better defense.

After holding Florida State’s leading scorer, Dwayne Bacon, without a point, Pitt next tries its luck with Wake Forest’s 6-foot-10 sophomore John Collins, who is averaging 19 points.

“What jumps off the page about Wake Forest is its ability to score inside and outside,” Pitt coach Kevin Stallings said.

“John Collins is as good, if not better, than any post player in the league, and they have terrific 3-point shooting to go around them (third in the ACC at 38.5 percent).”

Stallings said beating Wake Forest starts with good defense.“You have to start with trying to figure out a defensive plan to where you can, hopefully, get enough stops to keep yourself in the game.”

Relying on defense? Crap.

Using more of the bench with Ryan Luther still out? Umm

There were downsides, however, to that increase in playing time. Only two of the six players — Nix and Smith, the latter of whom played only in the game’s final minute — had a non-negative plus/minus rating, which measures the difference in points between a player’s team and its opponent while he is on the court. The sextet had a combined plus/minus of minus-22.

Their limitations were best exemplified when four of them were on the court at the same time early in the second half. With Pitt leading, 58-43, Milligan, Wilson, Kithcart and Nix were on the court with star forward Michael Young for 1:21. In that brief time, Florida State got within 10 points and forced two turnovers.

That followed the VT game where Pitt didn’t use the bench at all in the second half (which, honestly, was not something I disagreed) and lost. When Kevin Stallings did that mass substitution at that point, it almost seemed like an overreaction to criticisms thrown his way after the VT loss — or to prove the point as to why he didn’t go to the bench.

What will help Pitt tonight? If they can keep getting meaningful offensive contributions from the starters not named Jamel Artis and Mike Young.

It’s been part of the reason we’ve had a chance to win some of these games,” Pitt coach Kevin Stallings said. “Mike and Jamel have carried us so much this year that the defenses have obviously become very focused on them. It’s nice to have [Cam Johnson] or Sheldon jump up and take the lead in that department and take some pressure off of those two guys. We need to continue with that.”

In that three-game span, Pitt’s three starters other than Young and Artis — Jeter, Johnson and guard Chris Jones — have accounted for 53.8 percent of the points while its top scoring duo has scored 42.2 percent. In the 24 previous games, Young and Artis had scored 46.7 percent of the points while the other three starters accounted for just 30.2.

Much of that recent uptick has been due to Johnson and, especially, Jeter. In Pitt’s past three games, Jeter has averaged 17.3 points and 9.3 rebounds per game while making 26 of his 41 shots (63.4 percent). In that span, his scoring average has increased from 6.8 points to 8.4.

Johnson also has regained his excellent shooting form, draining 13 of his past 21 3-pointers while averaging 16.3 points per game. His surge comes after a nine-game lull in which he finished with at least 10 points just three times.Before that slump, he had scored in double figures in 11 consecutive games.

“It’s not a two-person show anymore,” Jeter said. “Now, you’ve got four or five people who can score over 10 points any game. I’m finally starting to be aggressive, Cam’s hitting his stride, Chris is still making plays. It’s relieving pressure off Mel and Mike. Now, the whole defense can’t just focus on them. They have to respect me, Cam and Chris as well.”

The one caveat I will add, is that the past three games have been at home.  Can the other guys be consistent and score outside the Pete. As this game and two of the final three games are on the road.





Pitt has to make a coaching change or even the 9 last loyal fans on this site are done!! Thanks for this Barnes you idiot. You ought to walk up backwards to your last paycheck!

Comment by Dan 72 02.22.17 @ 9:12 pm

For a team with no depth, dumb fouls did them in. And they were really, really dumb fouls.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.22.17 @ 9:13 pm

Dan 72 – go back and watch the first cuse game (1st half) or the Louisville blowout.

We have many bad halves this season.

But it’s not the coach –

Comment by Erie Express 02.22.17 @ 9:13 pm

or maybe not.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:13 pm

What’s Gallagher’s Home address?

I say let’s go over there with Pitchforks and Torches.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:14 pm

The loss is on Stallings, but Artis, Jeter and Jones were flat out awful in that second half.

Comment by gc 02.22.17 @ 9:14 pm

the city of pittsburgh should be ashamed of this team how in the world do you lose this game up 19 pts jamel artis is not a point gaurd he always turns the ball over in crucial situations

Comment by PittPanFan 02.22.17 @ 9:15 pm

Goodbye NCAAs. We hardly knew ya.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:16 pm

So what bubble are we one now? CBI?

Comment by Jackagain 02.22.17 @ 9:17 pm

Tear down the Pete!

Should NEVER have been built in the first place.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:18 pm

The offensive genius is paid big coin to design plays.
Hell, I could design a play to throw the ball across court to, uh, nobody.

Comment by Gasman 02.22.17 @ 9:18 pm

In game coaching genius strikes again. Lots of issues but none dumber than that inbounds play. Who can make that pass?? He is stealing our money guys!! Stick up for him all you want, blame it on players, but look at the bone had moves HE makes every game. And I promise you it will never,ever, change. He is way past his experation date.

Comment by JoeKnew 02.22.17 @ 9:19 pm

Pitt OFFICIALLY no longer a Basketball School.

Football remains up for debate.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:19 pm

Erie…. even if Young catches the cross court pass, he is falling backward and at best throws up a brick. Many years of playing and 16 years of coaching and I’ve never seen that play called. Anyone remember their first fundamental rule of basketball ever taught??? It went something like this “NEVER EVER THROW A CROSS COURT PASS!”

I could conduct an entire HS clinic on what not to do watching Pitt’s second half! Glad I missed Cuse and L Ville. Will not make the mistake of watching again this year., so sorry to go so crazy. Apologies to the group!

Comment by Dan 72 02.22.17 @ 9:19 pm

Pitt made 4 baskets in the second half and i guarantee ppl on this site blame Stallings!!

Comment by Keith 02.22.17 @ 9:20 pm

Oh well, it’s been fun. Kind of.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:21 pm

Kev – making ONE shot in the last 16 minutes did them in.

Nothing else, except maybe coaching.

Comment by Erie Express 02.22.17 @ 9:21 pm

Keith… I’ve been a pretty solid Stallings Supporter.

He BLEW this Game.

Simple stuff.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:22 pm

Pitt made one basket in the last 9 minutes, clearly Stallings fault

Comment by Keith 02.22.17 @ 9:23 pm

So who gets credit for the 19 point lead?, not stallings

Comment by Keith 02.22.17 @ 9:24 pm

Pitt is still following the script…decent 1st half and total meltdown in 2nd half.

Comment by Jackagain 02.22.17 @ 9:25 pm

that was the worst play i ever seen drawn up stalling better not blame it on the execution because he gave them a zero chance on that play he just makes me so damn mad i would take Jamie back in a heartbeat.

Comment by PittPanFan 02.22.17 @ 9:25 pm

Good Coaches coach Players to victory. Especially when they’re the BETTER Team on the Court.

And Pitt was obviously better than Wake me UP!

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:25 pm

Last Play of the Game… got to get the Ball into Artis’ hands.

Elementary

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:27 pm

Basketball is a VERY simple Game. Much more so than Football.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:27 pm

Wow…has this team hit rock bottom.. seniors playing like
Freshman…stallings is a mistake…no leadership… time to blow it up and start over…glad i didnt bother watching…

Comment by Jerry S 02.22.17 @ 9:29 pm

Keith – of course players are the ones who shoot but the coach can set plays and put different players on the court. It’s a combination of fault when they play so poorly and praise when they play well.

Comment by AnotherClancyRebound 02.22.17 @ 9:31 pm

WAKE me up FOREST Gump.

Two DUMB basketball teams played tonight in NC.

WF fans are happy they outsmarted the Ole shoe salesman tonight. They remain on the NCAA tournament bubble.

Pitt remains on the stinky gas bubble.

Comment by Erie Express 02.22.17 @ 9:31 pm

One basket in last 9 minutes….how can this happen?

Comment by Jerry S 02.22.17 @ 9:32 pm

Pitt will average 5000 fans next year. The Pete will be a great recruiting tool.

Comment by TX Panther 02.22.17 @ 9:33 pm

Play the bench the rest of the way out and pray for a first round exit in the ACC Tournament.

This is like a root canal that won’t quit…

Comment by Jackagain 02.22.17 @ 9:34 pm

One basket vs wake forest in 6 minutes..really against Wake Forest….can it get any worse?
Maybe KS will resign…EMBARASSING FOR PITT..
Love Pitt bur this is tough…season can’t end soon enough

Comment by Jerry S 02.22.17 @ 9:36 pm

And to think some here are hanging at least part of their hopes next year on Cam Johnson.

I’m going to take a pass.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:37 pm

Erie Express- I was going a little broader – Young had 2 very stupid fouls, which took him out of the game. If he doesn’t commit those I bet Pitt makes more than 1 basket in 16 minutes. With him out, the defense was able to expand out more.

Of course, every team that has beaten Pitt has done that. I don’t see why every team doesn’t play a 3-2 zone against us.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.22.17 @ 9:44 pm

Can we finally stop with the NCAA nonsense, this team will be fortunate to get into the Not Important Tournament.

And rightfully so, they stink.

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 9:47 pm

Emel… this Team doesn’t Stink. They just can’t Win when they SHOULD.

And Stallings is a BIG Part of that… as we witnessed again tonight.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:50 pm

They stink, 4 seniors, 2 road wins on the year.

Whether stallings is to blame or not, they stunk at the end of last year too !

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 9:53 pm

Were not an NCAA team last year, totally backed into that.

It was just a parting gift invite for Dixon, courtesy of Herman…who was on the Invite Committee for years.

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 9:54 pm

Losing a 19 point lead to a nothing team like Wake Forest.

THEY STINK…I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE PLAINLY IT IS

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 9:56 pm

Stallings makes the mistake of playing the WHOLE Game the same way.

Every Game is actually a few Games rolled into one.

You can’t play the same in the last minute of Play like you did in the last five minutes of the FIRST Half.

I think this might be Stallings’ BIGGEST shortcoming.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 9:56 pm

Does anyone believe Stallings will be here in three years?

Comment by Gasman 02.22.17 @ 9:59 pm

I hope Stallings decided to rent and not buy….

Comment by Jackagain 02.22.17 @ 10:09 pm

Stallings lives and dies on how WELL his Team shoots.

I’ll say this… Coaching should be a little more than that.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.22.17 @ 10:11 pm

Upitt had a good dinner and an Old Fashion with his Estonian girlfriend. Won’t watch or comment till Howdy Duty is fired. No Balls Chancelor, No AD, Still paying Mormon Marty and hos concubine 3 months later and a BB coach that if fired wouldn’t be hired by WV State. Yea there is a school
Called that. Fuck – Dilliard’s in Charlotte wouldnt hire him.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.22.17 @ 10:16 pm

Brissel Salesman lost this team and it was evident. The guy isna dicksock. No players will jell with this rockports douche

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.22.17 @ 10:18 pm

lol upitt…I think our Hess’s closed and I know Belk wouldn’t hire loser stallings either.

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 10:19 pm

Yet…his coaching fraternity buddies like Huckleberry Hound, Coach Alphabets, Buzz, etc…’oh he’s a great offensive coach’.

Man I get so sick of that crap.

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 10:21 pm

Maybe Family Dollar or Fred’s Discount Store. 🙂

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 10:22 pm

A loser for a place frequented by other losers.

Comment by Emel 02.22.17 @ 10:24 pm

Fred’s!! LOL
In West Palm in AM. I will stop at Mar-a-Lago and say hi to our buddy.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.22.17 @ 10:24 pm

Admittedly, I didn’t watch the game but reading Blather posts I’m not so sure Pitt was the better team tonight. Pitt keeps beating themselves with undisciplined play and selfish ball handling. Most important, coach Stallings is not earning his big pay check.

Is Pitt ever going to hire an AD? Why do these issues always fall on Pitt sports? Did some witch from Hoopieland cast a spell on Pitt sports? Depressing.

Comment by MariettaMike 02.22.17 @ 10:45 pm

Stallings is simply not the coach for Pitt….end of story.
Where are the screens to free each other up for shots?? my god all they do is spread the other team out and try to take their man one on one. That’s fine when you’re hitting your shots, but when the legs go, it’s another story!

And gee I wonder how many AD candidates were interviewed today?? Only the Republican congress is slower than Pitt. I bet Pitt is interviewing hiring firms…to see which one is best to take the heat off the utter BOT and Chancellor incompetence!!

Comment by Dan 72 02.22.17 @ 11:16 pm

The AD search is as bad as the BB team. Pitt fans are waiting to see the “good”, but we end up with the “bad”. Barnes and Stallings…

What I saw vs WtF last night was a coach who was out of his league and beaten by the second worse coach in the ACC.

– a PG who would dribble into three defenders and turn the ball over.
– MY taking bunny shots with 2 defenders hacking away with hardly a foul called.
– seniors missing four shots late in the game when they mattered most.
– no Pitt shooter with any confidence to make a shot in the 2nd half.
– a 19 point lead blown by Pitt with the HC not calling a time out until the lead dwindled to 1 point and all confidence was lost by the players, fans and coaches.

Thanks Barney – seems like you weren’t at Pitt long enough to get to know you, but with the Stallings hire, we won’t forget you for another six years.

Comment by Erie Express 02.23.17 @ 5:48 am

FWIW, I can’t blame last night on KS. Pitt had one open look after another in the 2nd half … even the shooter, Johnson … and it was one clank after another.

Comment by wbb 02.23.17 @ 6:55 am

Artis and Jeter both 3 for 11; Johnson 2 for 10

Comment by wbb 02.23.17 @ 6:57 am

You guys blaming Stallings for this loss are crazy. He doesn’t shoot, dribble, pass, defend, etc. The team is soft. Period. Jones has really struggled the past several games – and Artis? Why would you want the ball in Artis’s hands? Did you see what he did with it at the end of the UNC game? He’s been average at best the last several weeks and he always has the most ill-timed TO or missed layup. If you really want to single out one person responsible for this loss – I don’t think you can look past him.

Comment by JJ 02.23.17 @ 9:07 am

No one can blame Stallings for the players being soft with a low Bball IQ. No one can blame him for players missing so many shots. You can put that on them , on Dixon, on anywhere you want but Stallings doesn’t deserve that. What he does deserve is the lack of actual coaching. Artis is a terrible point guard. There needs to be some combination of minutes for Kithcart, Wilson or 55 to take up some minutes alternating at point and running some set plays. Mangault’s redshirt is already blown so let him play a bit, even if you tell him his only job is to do whatever he has to do to get the rebound. Nix can at least set screens for jump shooters – no one else does – in the minutes he gets on the court. He also looks like he might be able to make a few plays if anyone ever passed him the ball. At least send the message to the starters that if you play stupid then you sit. If you play selfish then you sit. You wonder why Dixon called plays all the time for this crew? Stallings style doesn’t work with them. Maybe (in a dream world) when he gets his own recruits then he can coach them how he wants and be successful. How well did that work out for Vanderbilt?

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 02.23.17 @ 10:44 am

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