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November 17, 2016

Ponies and Pitt

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread,Opponent(s) — Chas @ 8:41 am

(Treat this as the open thread, as well. I am short on time and on DVR delay the next two nights due to my daughter’s school musical.)

It’s hard to believe that in all the years Kevin Stallings coached at Vandy, the Commodores never made it to Madison Square Garden. Just by virtue of the years and number of events had at MSG, you would think there would have been one game.

Pitt plays a good SMU team tonight. As usual Larry Brown cut corners and ran afoul of the NCAA on recruiting — again. Also, as usual, Larry Brown went Larry Brown over not being “appreciated” (read: more years and money — despite the NCAA sanctions and his suspension) and quit over the summer.

Surprisingly, SMU was somewhat prepared for such an eventuality. When SMU decided to pay to pla — er, let’s choose a different way of phrasing that given the history of SMU athletics. When SMU made the decision to invest more in its basketball program, they didn’t just pay to bring in Larry Brown. They hired Tim Jankovich to be associate head coach. Jankovich was doing well enough at Illinois State over 9 seasons, but left for the money and opportunity. The Mustangs didn’t turn the program over to an assistant who was a Brown flunky or career assistant. They gave it to a guy who has a clue.

SMU brought in some talent in the last few years, and a chunk of it is still there. Three returning starters and Duke transfer Semi Ojeleye. This is a good team that at a minimum is the equal to this Pitt squad. Size-wise, they are similar to Pitt. They also like to take a lot of threes, but they play better defense than Pitt — something Brown and now Jankovich preach.

As for Pitt, they are still in the process of meshing with their new coach.

The predicament facing Stallings is entirely different and more understandable. His downtrodden tone following the decisive win, which stood in stark contrast to his upbeat tenor after the double-overtime win Friday night against Eastern Michigan, wasn’t out of frustration or desperation; he’s simply a first-year coach trying to figure out his team and his players.

As the Panthers prepare for their most difficult stretch of their early schedule — with a game against SMU tonight and either Michigan or Marquette Friday at Madison Square Garden — it’s a learning process that might need to be accelerated.

“I take responsibility for that,” Stallings said after the Gardner-Webb win. “Maybe I sent the wrong message about tempo and offense and things like that because we’re not ready to beat anybody that’s equivalent to us in terms of talent because we don’t sustain our defensive intensity. We have two short days to get that fixed before we go play some high-level teams in New York City.”

Throughout the offseason, there was little, if anything, Stallings saw that concerned him about sluggishness from his team. But for all he witnessed in that time, and for all he bonded with his new players, those experiences came in a vacuum, one in which they worked out and played exclusively against each other. Against other teams in games that actually count, the dynamic changes.

The issue for Pitt right now is the same it was the last couple years. The ability to play defense is there, but the willingness is not there on a consistent basis.

And the excuse of the low-name recognition opponents or fans not showing up on the second game, just don’t wash.

Pitt will then meet a brand-name program in Michigan or Marquette on Friday.

“What you don’t know when you’re young, or what you don’t understand, is that you’re incapable of turning it on and off,” Stalling said. “If you allow it to turn off, you can’t say ‘Oh, OK, I’m going to turn it back on now.’ Maybe the greatest of the great ones can do that. I’ve never known a college player who could do that.

“If you’re only going to get excited to play teams that have a brand name or whatever then ultimately you are only going to beat the teams you’re more talented than because you’re not going to be an every-day program. … You are not going to have the type of season you want to have.”

Stallings wants the switch flipped to “on” Thursday and to be kept there.

“Do I anticipate we’ll have a lot more energy and emotion Thursday night? Sure I do,” Stallings said. “But what if it’s not in Madison Square Garden against a Michigan or Marquette? I’m concerned about the entire picture not just the next window in the picture.”

The game is at 7pm on ESPN2.





Make that 31-0…

Comment by Jackagain 11.17.16 @ 9:29 pm

The Todd Orlando defense, we’ve heard that name before.

Comment by alcofan 11.17.16 @ 9:34 pm

I blame Jamie Dixon!,,ha!

I agree, were a football school now!

Anyways, can we tear down the PETE and put an on campus football stadium?!, we could just play basketball at Fitzgerald field house!, attendance will suck anyways!!

Comment by Keith 11.17.16 @ 9:55 pm

You have A basketball AD. You got the Pete. You got the East Coast to recruit. All we need now is a recruiting coach and a team. See if we can get Larry Brown. A lot of money invested in BB. Spend a little more and buy a team like most of the big player schools.

Hate to say it, but I’d rather be hones.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 11.17.16 @ 10:16 pm

Damon Wilson was a consensus 4 star recruit with offers from 5 ACC and 4 SEC schools. He was an ESPN Top 100 player.

Unfortunately Wilson sat a lot last year because JD seemed to fear when JR was not on the court and Pitt had lots of options at SG.

I remember an article in the PG months ago describing how Stallings and staff had greatly improved Wilson’s shot.

It seems players typically make a leap in their sophomore year. Artis and Young sure did. Not sure why Stallings doesn’t appear to see anything in Wilson thus far. It seems odd that Wilson isn’t playing ahead of 5th year senior Chris Jones on potential alone.

Comment by Barvo 11.17.16 @ 10:41 pm

Bravo – maybe Stallings is planning to redshirt Wilson because he knows deep down this could be a list season.

I doubt it on the redshirt…

After watching last night’s game, one thing I’m sure of, my blood pressure won’t be affected by this team because my expectations were lowered to the floor.

Comment by Erie Express 11.18.16 @ 5:09 am

On a different note…

For all those here who like to go on and on… and on… about how GREAT Pitt Football was “back in the day”…

Pause for a second and realize that… besides James Conner of course… we are truly witnessing one of the All-TIME Pitt GREATS.

Click here for the story.

link to post-gazette.com

Comment by PittofDreams 11.18.16 @ 7:19 am

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.18.16 @ 7:21 am

Very disappointing game to watch last night. Rough year ahead and will be shocked if Stallings can get them to the tournament, any tournament really. They don’t look physically tough and haven’t been mentally tough with Young or Artis over the last few years. Hope I am wrong, but the way this team plays offense without a point guard is embarassing to watch. Maybe SMU is better than I think, but I don’t see them as a top 25 team either and really they dominated the game outside the early hot shooting and the one big run.
JD left a fairly deficient team and KS needs to recruit to have any chance. Let’s all pray.

Comment by TVax1 11.18.16 @ 7:39 am

How is it that every team Pitt has played has quicker athletes, not counting Kithcart.

You can see Stallings is experimenting with different defenses and it doesn’t seem like these players can play any of them.

I get why Dixon slowed it down.

There are many teams successful without a big lineup, BUT, they have quick athletic players. Stallings needs to recruit recruit recruit.

Don’t panic yet. Like I said, Stallings is experimenting. That experiment doesn’t seem to include Wilson which the press should ask him about.

Comment by notrocketscience 11.18.16 @ 8:03 am

Well, lets hope Stallings does not experiment to a .500 non-con record or he will experiment this team right out of the tourney.

I still don’t get it. Last year I argued many times that Dixon should start with zone and only leave it when it does not work. This team was BUILT (by accident) for zone defense!!! Sure, I know, man-to-man happy Dixon was never going to do that…

But does Stalling a) not see that and b) is not way more willing than Dixon to go there?

Comment by DD 11.18.16 @ 8:32 am

First, Jones brings absolutely zero. Second, Jeter was off but did get some big rebounds. Artis as PG does not help Jeter. A true PG who is looking to help his teammates score would be a big help to him. Third, would really like to at least see Manigault and Wilson getting some more PT. At least give Wilson a chance. He couldn’t be any worse than Jones, could he?

I liked Stallings’ willingness to make some adaptations. He’s working with what he has. Wish he would give some other guys more of a chance to contribute early in the season.

It’s sad, though. I really have no excitement for Pitt hoops. No expectations whatsoever. Nothing against Stallings, but we really needed a better hire to bring some excitement to the program. Sigh.

Comment by Praise the Lard 11.18.16 @ 8:58 am

They say Jones took a big step up and is our best defender…I guess it is a matter of degree….

Comment by DD 11.18.16 @ 10:53 am

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