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October 13, 2016

Quietly Basketball Begins

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 7:41 am

There was no midnight madness this year. Instead, the school went with an event near Heinz Field on homecoming. Emceed by the great Bill Raftery.

I didn’t make it to the event, but I actually saw Raftery in the press area shortly before the GT-Pitt game. I was grabbing another coffee and he was getting something to eat.

Couldn’t bring myself to interrupt him as he was about to eat. He must have come straight from the event and doing interviews with local media. I’ve seen ESPN football announcers around there before. Some former players. Guys who are now NFL scouts. But I’ve never felt particularly star struck before.

Raftery has been the college basketball voice that means the most to me. His enthusiasm for the game. The storytelling. The catchphrases still delivered with energy and perhaps a knowing wink. Actual analysis. Do I still watch Big East games simply because he’s on the call? Yes.

What sets Raftery apart from others like say Vitale or Bill Walton or other ex-players or coaches. He is only talking about the game. He doesn’t get caught up in deifying coaches or players. He will break down the plays — the good and bad — while letting the game flow. He hasn’t become a caricature of himself (Vitale, again). He doesn’t make himself bigger than the game — and never let ESPN or now FS1 do that. He’s still teaching the game, even as he is entertaining.

If I had gone up to him. All I would have wanted to do is gush and really, just say, “Thank you.”

Back to the real stuff. Raftery emceed the “Throwback Throwdown, at the Stage AE.

On more current matters, Raftery was asked about the “reputation” of Kevin Stallings, the new Pitt men’s coach who left Vanderbilt after 17 seasons. Raftery was especially impressed given Vandy’s tough admission policies.

“If I say, ‘offense,’ everybody will say he doesn’t coach defense,” he said. “I think he’s on that level of offense. He gets easy baskets. And he’s been able to do it with restrictions. I think most of the respect for him is he has a great mind for offense.”

Raftery described Pitt’s home court, Petersen Events Center, as “maybe the best building in the East” in terms of atmosphere (he said he considers Maryland to be in the South despite its Big Ten affiliation). That, he said, should help Stallings and his staff recruit the type of players who not only fit his style but might enable the Panthers to compete at a high level in the ACC.

Raftery said he does not expect Pitt to join Duke, Louisville and North Carolina among the perennially elite in the ACC but added the Panthers still can be successful, including in the postseason.

“I think you want to be good consistently, and then every couple of years, you might be good enough to where you can get to that level,” he said. “You get a break, you win a close game, you’re in a pod or bracket that works for you.”

Tough words a lot of people don’t want to hear, but he explains a little more:

Raftery, who closely watched the Panthers as they rose to prominence in the late 1980s and 2000s, believes Pitt has the potential to be great, but not in the way much of the game’s upper crust is measured.

“Nobody’s going to get there,” said Raftery, now an analyst with Fox Sports 1. “If you watch the Jordan and McDonald’s [All-American] games, there are three or four schools that have the top 23 kids. But that doesn’t mean you can’t win a championship. Look at Villanova. Look at Butler getting there a few years ago. They had tough kids, though [Utah Jazz guard Gordon] Hayward was a big-time player, as it turned out. George Mason back in ’06.

“I don’t know if you can [get to that elite level], philosophically or realistically, but it’s all about trying to get a group together that can win it all.”

It can change quickly. UConn is having success after Jim Calhoun, but they aren’t having the same presence in the top-25 that they did before. It is tough to sustain a perennial top-25 ranking.

Raftery also addressed the issue that makes the difference for teams: recruiting.

On how difficult the transition to the ACC is for a quintessential Big East team like Pitt:

“I guess the answer is the type of kids you attract and where you attract them from. It’d be great if Pittsburgh had more and better players because they would get their fair share, but I don’t know if they have that. There’s not 10 kids that could go a lot of places. That’s my guess from what I’ve been told. That hurts. Now you’ve got to find an area. Is it Philly? Is it New York? Is it Washington? That’s part of your staff makeup. [Assistant coach Kevin] Sutton is a guy that’s been around the DC area. The other kid, [assistant coach Jeremy] Ballard, has a little New York taste. That’s all the trial and error now about ‘Where do we go?’”

Judging by the recruiting for the 2017 class, Stallings and the staff still seem to be trying to figure that out.

Next weekend, as Pitt football has a bye, will be Pitt Basketball Weekend.

Panther fans will have inside access to the Pitt men’s and women’s basketball teams Oct. 22-23 at Pitt Basketball Weekend. The two-day event will allow fans to watch the teams compete on the redesigned Petersen Events Center floor prior to an on-court autograph session with the teams.

The men’s team, with six of its top seven scorers returning from a year ago, will hold an open scrimmage Saturday, Oct. 22 at 1:30 p.m. The scrimmage format will consist of three 10-minutes sessions followed by late-game situational scrimmaging. Fans in attendance will have the first look at Kevin Stallings’ up-tempo offense. Following the scrimmage team members will sign autographs on the court, while fans will also be able to shoot free throws on Petersen Events Center hoops.

The return of seniors Jamel Artis, Sheldon Jeter,Chris Jones and Michael Young give the Panthers one of the most experienced teams in the ACC. Young earned third team All-ACC honors a year ago after averaging 15.7 points and 6.9 rebounds per game, while Artis, a third team all-league pick in 2015, contributed 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds and 3.0 assists per game. Pitt is the only team in the ACC with two returning all-conference performers.

Doors to Petersen Events Center will open at 1 p.m. The Pitt Team Store and concessions stands will also be open throughout the event.

The women’s team will host fans at an open practice Sunday, Oct. 23 at noon. Hall of Fame coach Suzie McConnell-Serio, in her fourth season at the helm of the women’s program, will lead her team through a complete practice at the PEC. Pitt returns its top two scorers in sophomore Brenna Wise (10.7 ppg.) and junior Yacine Diop (10.4 ppg.), while welcoming three newcomers in true freshmen guards Jasmine Whitney and Alayna Gribble, as well as DePaul graduate transfer center Brandi Harvey-Carr. Following the practice, the team will sign autographs on the court and fans will also able to shoot free throws on the main court at the PEC.

Finally, last week I noted that Pitt’s tempo will likely be a bit faster but less efficient on offense. Craig Meyer the beat writer for the P-G for Pitt basketball, ran his own numbers and concurs.

So what to take from all of this and how it relates to Pitt? It’s almost certain, given Stallings’ background, that the Panthers will play faster this season, but between their taller lineup and the pace at which the team is used to playing, I don’t know if it will be a seismic change.

If anything, the numbers (and history) show Pitt, if it follows the average of the recent trend, will be a marginally speedier if slightly less efficient team.

The more you know.





Excellent article Chas.

For the first time in a LONG time I am excited about Pitt Basketball.

Stallings is taking quite a GAMBLE in his approach to a Lineup which is going to put Artis at Point.

I do disagree that it is going to SEISMIC in the difference we witness this year and those following.

How can it not? Going from ONE extreme in Dixon to another in Stallings.

Don’t know what the immediate results will be. But there is NO REASON to expect less than Pitt becoming a PERENNIAL “Always Knocking at the Door” Powerhouse in the ACC.

That’s the Program Pitt Faithful have hoped for and deserve. It’s the kind of Basketball the Pete deserves to have played on its hardwood.

Hopefully Stallings can get Pitt there. I believe he has a chance.

Comment by PittofDreams 10.13.16 @ 8:52 am

And yes, Bill Raftery will always be a friend to Pitt.

Comment by PittofDreams 10.13.16 @ 8:53 am

spot on with your characterization of Raftery vs Vitale. I always thought that Walton did it purposely which was his way of prioritizing basketball and life whereas Vitale is simply an egomaniac.

Comment by wbb 10.13.16 @ 9:07 am

I have to turn the sound off when Vitale does the game. Raftery is first class all the way.

I think it will be really enjoyable watching our guys with the freedom to use some of their individual skills.

How it translates in wins and losses, who knows?

Comment by gc 10.13.16 @ 9:20 am

Gotta love Raftery’s trademark “man to man”. And who can forget “Send it in Jerome”…

Comment by Pap76 10.13.16 @ 10:15 am

Raftery and Al McGuire were my two favorite color analysts on Hoops over the last 30 years.

Something about NYC guys, that make them more ….well……colorful.

Maybe cause they have personalities. Some of these guys are real duds. Snoozers.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 10:51 am

And then there is Dickie V….and he is just ‘over the top’.

By the end of Nov. I’m tired of him.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 10:52 am

My son and I ran into raftery and bilas at tesaro’s after a Pitt/Syracuse game a few years ago. Talked sports with them for 15 minutes and was like visiting with an old neighbor. Class act no with no pretention.
Barnes ought to be happy with raftery’s view of Pitt Basketball. That’s obviously what he had in mind when he gave his buddy’s search firm their marching orders.

Comment by wally 10.13.16 @ 11:30 am

Pap76, Raftery should do Pitt football games. And Pitt comes out “man-to-man” (what else)

Comment by wbb 10.13.16 @ 11:39 am

good article .. thank you. The telling comments to me, and something I’ve felt as well, is how unlikely it is that Pitt (and others) will ever become elite and compete with the “3 or 4 that get the top 23 kids”…. can be competitive and maybe once in a while, knock on the door with the luck of a tight group that over-achieves. Stallings has his work cut out for him …. presumably he is up for the challenge. But, he needs to consistently get our teams to 25+ wins and annual semi-final or better results in ACC tourney. Otherwise, it will be a long time – or never.

Comment by TJ 10.13.16 @ 2:38 pm

Terrific, just a terrific article. Thanks Chas

Comment by steve1 10.13.16 @ 4:47 pm

Awesome article Chas. Thanks.

The ceiling that Raftery sees for the Pitt basketball program(which I agree with), is the same as the football team. Both programs, with the proper university support and financial commitment and the right coach, could be consistent Top 25 programs that can compete for and occasionally win an ACC championship.

Without the right support from the university, or coaching failures or instability, both programs could just as easy, if not easier, be ACC bottom feeders.

Each program has what is probably an insurmountable obstacle to ever be an elite program. The basketball program does not have a local talent pool to recruit from. Although Mars senior Rob Carmody is an elite talent. He said he didn’t fit Jamie Dixon’s system. While Stallings is playing catch-up and fighting an uphill battle, Pitt is now in the mix for his services.

The football program lacks the fan support necessary to be a blue blood program. The yellow seats and overall “meh” atmosphere for most football games will always be a tough sale to top flight recruits.

So far Patrick Gallagher and Scott Barnes seem to be a much better tandem than Nordy and Steve Pederson were for Pitt athletics. Hopefully Narduzzi and Stallings are the right coaches and stick around. I would be fine with Top 25 programs that win an occasional ACC title. Thrilled actually…

Comment by Pap76 10.13.16 @ 6:11 pm

All I want is a Final 4. If Pitt could be like Nova, I would be ecstatic. Raftery is a realist and a real class act. Pitt can be consistently relevant by drawing players from DC, Philly and the City…maybe even Detroit. But we will never be a Blue Blood. Nothing wrong with that. I just want Stallings to bring FUN back.

Comment by TX Panther 10.13.16 @ 6:45 pm

Shame, Raftery said:

“You get a break, you win a close game, you’re in a pod or bracket that works for you.”

We had the teams, we never got the pod or bracket. In fact it seemed like the committee intentionally put Pitt in Pods or Brackets with teams that countered our strengths and maximized our weaknesses.

So if that is our only way to the Final 4, I am not hopeful, unless we throw another roof on The Pete or hire a bigtime coach.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 6:49 pm

The expiration date of the $200 mil we spent on The Pete has come and gone……apparently.

The return on the investment….would be interesting to see…what exactly it was.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 6:52 pm

Cause 1 Elite 8 and a couple of Sweet 16’s wasn’t much, imo.

Especially considering we tore down an on campus Football Stadium in the process.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 6:53 pm

Hey, Emel, we beat ‘nova in football!

Comment by steve1 10.13.16 @ 7:10 pm

Yea….whoop whoop.

It wasn’t even a real beatdown. I’m thinking that was disallowed.

Pitt should have scored 50 points on those schmucks.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 7:13 pm

I really hate Villanova.

Comment by Emel 10.13.16 @ 7:14 pm

ditto

Comment by steve1 10.13.16 @ 7:25 pm

Pitt had the right pod/bracket in 2011 & blew it in spectacular fashion vs Butler. The Wichita St loss when they lined up with Gonzaga was pretty good too.

Comment by Nick 10.13.16 @ 7:50 pm

Coach Dixon blew it. Not Pitt.

Comment by TX Panther 10.13.16 @ 8:32 pm

+1 with Bill Raferty. He’s not a NYC guy he’s from Jersey. Its the iri
sh in him and Mcquire.

Comment by alcofan 10.13.16 @ 9:57 pm

Dixon didn’t foul the opposing team on a foul shot miss.

Comment by Nick 10.13.16 @ 10:56 pm

Dixon left his team on the line when any rec coach knows to pull them off! That and not having a safety back vs Novas in bound play will haunt him….and us forever!

Comment by Dan 72 10.13.16 @ 11:22 pm

I agree 2011 was our best chance for Final 4 where the 2 finalists were the teams we had our final 2 losses that year … both in the final second. Pitt had a 1 point lead and possession and let the shot clock expire with 9 seconds left — that’s where I lay the blame.

Comment by wbb 10.14.16 @ 5:49 am

@Nick Dixon also didn’t miss the free throw that led to the foul in 2011.

Dixon also didn’t dribble into an obvious half court trap in 2009, turn the ball over and then foul the opponent on the drive (Jermaine Dixon). He also couldn’t help that Nova was near perfect from the FT line.

Comment by Barvo 10.14.16 @ 1:42 pm

we’ve got a ways to go … especially given recent sports article i saw about the top 10 programs in college hoops … included Louisville, Duke, UNC and Syracuse. Two of which are 2x a year opponents. Stallings has his work cut out for him. H2P !!

Comment by TJ 10.14.16 @ 4:01 pm

Dixon didn’t foul the opposing team on a foul shot miss.
Comment by Nick 10.13.16 @ 10:56 pm

Yeah….but he didn’t do what a any HS coach would have done….pull his team out before the 2nd shot. I agree with Dan72. It was sub-moronic of Dixon. He controls every aspect of the games except when he should.

As for Jermaine Dixon…he shouldn’t have been in the game or handling the ball there….Fields should have been. The play is to get the ball inside to Blair. But seniors must play when Dixon is at the helm…no matter how stupid…

Dixon = March idiot

Comment by Jackagain 10.14.16 @ 5:23 pm

Dixon = FIRED
And now TCU’s problem

Comment by TX Panther 10.14.16 @ 6:05 pm

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