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June 15, 2016

Here is a detailed and in-depth look at the Panther football program under Pat Narduzzi.  It was written yesterday by Bill Connelly of SB Nation  and is a wealth of historical and present (and future) info about where we have been and the direction he thinks we are going into the 2016 season.

Here is an opening salvo to get your attention:

As fans, we have plenty of funny tendencies. If you raise the stature of our program just enough to break our heart with high-stakes losses, we will resent you for it.

It’s funny (if you’re not a Pitt fan, at least) to look back to the end of the last decade.

Under Dave Wannstedt, Pitt pulled off one of its most significant upsets, in 2007 (taking down WVU in Morgantown to prevent the Mountaineers from advancing to the BCS title game), then went 9-4 and 10-3 over the next two seasons. The Panthers went 8-5 in 2010, giving them 27 wins over a three-year period for the first time since 1981-83.

And Wannstedt resigned under pressure, hated by a large portion of Pitt fans.

But I’ll disagree – unless he thinks I am the only Pitt fan whose opinion matters I don’t think Pitt fans hated Wannstedt at all.  It was more like they were so disappointed with all the crap that went on back in 2010 and his inability to outright win a BCS bowl bid in his six years as head coach that any sort of a change was a relief.

But let’s not put binders on as this writer has – there were a hell of a lot of Pitt fans that didn’t want to see DW go at all.

Aside from that this is a fantastic read.  It is a breath of fresh air to read someone state the true comparisons between Chryst’s time at Pitt and Pat Narduzzi’s first year.  We fans are infused with a lot of Narduzzi’s energy and exuberance so we look at last season with an overly positive view.

Of course a lot of things went well for us, as did in Chryst’s time also but the main difference is, of course that elusive eighth win that we had.

Early in Narduzzi’s first year, Pitt came back from a 10-point deficit to tie Iowa in Iowa City, only to lose via 57-yard field goal at the buzzer. It was a Pitt-style heartbreaker that suggested the Panthers’ demons were stronger than Narduzzi’s impeccable résumé.

But then a funny thing started happening. Pitt won at Virginia Tech by four, at Georgia Tech by three, and at Syracuse by three. After a momentary setback, they manhandled Duke and Louisville. They went 6-2 in ACC Coastal play, missing out on a division title only when a comeback attempt against UNC came up just short. And even in that game, there was promise and fortitude — Pitt trailed 23-6 in the third quarter before charging back.

The Panthers weren’t very good — their No. 40 S&P+ ranking was the average of Paul Chryst’s last two years (36th in 2013, 44th in 2014). But that almost made 2015’s 8-5 finish more encouraging. The Panthers were young but still showed an ability to come back against good teams and maneuver in close games. For Pitt, that was almost a more important hurdle than actually improving.

And I think that last bit is what has whet our appetites for the beginning of fall camp and subsequent games.  Even with the horrid dip in play over the last two games of 2015 we Pitt fans, with strength born from being tied to the whipping posts marking the trail of tears that is Pitt football history, can point to a tough schedule and see seven or eight wins.

Read the article and take your time doing it – it has a wealth of info that we’ll keep referring back to during the actual football days of the 2016 season.  here is their summary sidebar and I have to say it hits the mark:

5-year recruiting ranking: 37 (6 in ACC)

Biggest strength: Can you have too many running backs? Pitt might; the Panthers also have one of the ACC’s best offensive lines.

Biggest question mark: Can the passing game thrive without security blanket Tyler Boyd?

Biggest 2016 game: Penn State (Sept. 10), but the game at UNC (Sept. 24) could end up deciding the ACC Coastal.

Summary: Pitt didn’t improve a lot in Narduzzi’s first year, but the Panthers won close games, and they were young enough to generate serious optimism. Also: WELCOME BACK, JAMES CONNER. 🙂 🙂 🙂

I’ll add one of my own:

2nd Biggest question mark: How bad will it get if our starting QB goes down with injury?

Here are three pieces from ESPN’s Pitt’s Front Page.  First is this about Pitt’s new uniforms being the best in the ACC:

We’re traditionalists here, and few uniform changes got us more excited recently than Pittsburgh’s decision to revert to its signature script logo. The look harkens to the good ol’ days of Panther greats like Tony Dorsett and Dan Marino, and it has been well-received in virtually every corner so far. The logo was used from 1973-96, and the alternate versions now even feature a matted navy helmet. (For the record, Florida State’s old uniforms would’ve been our pick here, but the Seminoles changed jerseys in 2014.) — Matt Fortuna

Another one asks “Who will reach double-digit sacks in the ACC in 2016?”

Ejuan Price, Pitt — Price got a sixth season of eligibility, and that is great news for the Panthers given the way he flourished in Pat Narduzzi’s aggressive defensive scheme a year ago. Price finished third in the ACC with 11.5 sacks, and more of the same will be expected from the team’s veteran playmaker. Keep an eye on Matt Galambos too.

They can watch Galambos if they want – I’ll keep my eye on Mike Caprara who is smarter and quicker than out starting MLB.  Caprara, while playing on and off as a starter, had as many sacks as Galambos but actually more tackles for loss.

Here are the Top Six defensive players (by tackles made) for our 2015 squad:

      Tackles  Sacks  Pass Defense  Fumbles  Blkd    
DEFENSIVE LEADERS  GP  Solo  Ast  Total  TFL-Yds  No-Yds  Int-Yds  BU  PD  Qbh  Rcv-Yds  FF  Kick  Saf 
9   Jordan Whitehead  13  74  35  109   6.0 – 17   0.5 – 6 1 – 0 1 – 22
47  Matt Galambos  13  51  37  88   10.0 – 53   5.0 – 42 2 – 53    .
14  Avonte Maddox  13  52  23  75   1.0 – 5   0.5 – 4 3 – 30 12  15     .
3   Nicholas Grigsby  13  45  21  66   9.5 – 42   3.5 – 26    . 1 – 0
30  Mike Caprara  13  33  16  49   10.5 – 40   5.0 – 29 1 – 3 1 – 0
5   Ejuan Price  13  30  18  48   19.5 – 120   11.5 – 89    . 1 – 32

ESPN’s latest piece with reference to Pitt is this one titled “ACC offensive lines will have plenty of experience in 2016” and lists the ACC teams with the most games played by the OL starters.

If returning experience is an indicator of future success, the ACC’s offensive lines should be strong in 2016.

Phil Steele posted his annual report on returning starts for offensive lines, and the ACC has plenty of experienced units by that metric.

From PhilSteele.com:

2. North Carolina, 131

12. Pitt, 99

Still, the returning experience is a good sign for teams like Wake, Miami and Virginia Tech — all of which dealt with problems up front a year ago. And given the already high number of top running backs returning for 2016, there’s a good chance all this offensive line experience will translate into some powerful ground attacks this season. (Pitt, for example, has two 1,000-yard rushers and the second-most experienced offensive line.) In fact, the top four teams in terms of offensive line experience in the ACC all return 1,000-yard rushers from last season.

Rival/Trib’s Chris Peak weighs in with another podcast.  This time, actually it was recorded on Monday, he talks about “QB recruiting, concerns about O-Line recruiting and Pitt QB commit Kenny Pickett’s head coach is a guest.

Sticking with the Narduzzi/recruiting theme here let’s revist a video clip that I really enjoy.  It highlights the local “412 Crew” players we have on the roster:

Take a flight over the nicest place in which we’ll never see an on-campus stadium…





rayhpgh

Couldn’t agree more!

Comment by notrocketscience 06.17.16 @ 8:22 am

Reed

I agree about the RBs and it applies to every position. No matter the stars, it doesn’t always translate to Div I.

Comment by notrocketscience 06.17.16 @ 8:24 am

@Ray Couldn’t disagree more. PSU is just not another game, for many reasons, including future recruiting. I guarantee the Pitt coaches will treat this as a huge game.

Of course winning the ACC is a big deal, but this PSU game is a huge game.

Comment by bj 06.17.16 @ 9:37 am

@rayhpgh, I understand your point, and while it is true that is only one game out of 12, I disagree.

With all the build up that has been going on even during the winter and spring between the Pitt and Penn State coaches, Twitter accounts, Facebook accounts, social media in general, the game is absolutely huge.

We on here are die hard Pitt fans, and to those of us that are also die hard college football fans, I think we all get it. It’s 1 game out of 12, not gonna help us go to the ACC Championship game.

However, to the casual Pitt fan, the casual College Football fan, and to even the casual Penn State fan, people that just kind of watch games, check in on other teams, do a lot of just score watching………….

the game is huge.

As Dr. Tom said, a cliche, but a very true one, perception is reality.

For a lot of people, whoever wins that game is the better program. At least for a year. That includes high school coaches and recruits and recruits family and friends.

Doesn’t even have to be Pitt v PSU.

Could be Eastern Colorado v. Southern Colorado.

Whoever wins that game, gets a lot of unseen cachet to go with it for at least a year.

Beat them 3 out of 4 or dare I say 4 out 4, that program will be seen as the better football program.

Fair or not to either, people look at the scoreboard.

Again, not arguing, your point is very valid, I just think there is a lot more at stake, and certainly more at stake probably for Pitt.

Comment by Dan 06.17.16 @ 10:33 am

I have also seen some, not many, say it is a 4 game series, and once Pitt got WVU and Tennessee on the schedule, “guess there’s no chance to continue the PSU series”.

It may not continue, but as of right now, both have plenty of spots open after the 2020 game.

Neither has filled their schedule completely.

link to fbschedules.com

Great site for schedules by the way, but just click on the teams, go to bottom and it has future OOC games that are scheduled. Neither filled up.

So, if these games become “events” over the next four years, continuing the series is certainly not out of the question.

Comment by Dan 06.17.16 @ 11:02 am

The PSU game is big, the ramifications will influence recruiting for both schools. Recruiting leads to future squads, winner will get better talent leading to division championships and conference championships down the road. It is not just one game in 12, it is establishing the dominant program in Pa where majority of recruiting for both schools is done.

Comment by Spindler's Spirit 06.17.16 @ 11:03 am

Reed… the point wasn’t that 10 yards a carry in High School is any kind of guarantee for success at the next level.

But it does suggest that the Head Coach should probably give them a look before sending them off to Defense… ESPECIALLY if they ask for it.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 11:08 am

And by the way, I did predict that James Conner would make everyone forget about Rushel Shell…

… while Conner was still in High School.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 11:14 am

Don’t get me wrong… not predicting the same kind of IMMEDIATE success for either Hill or Pugh.

But chances are GOOD that one of them is going to make his name on Offense.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 11:23 am

The PSU game is big, but not as important as winning the ACC. Not even as important as winning the ACC Coastal.

Let’s put it this way, if I had to choose between one or the other, hands down I would pick winning the ACC Coastal and playing in the ACC championship game.

PSU isn’t going to win their conference in football. Pitt could sell winning a division and going to the championship game. Way more of a sell than one game.

Comment by notrocketscience 06.17.16 @ 11:28 am

When we played PSU regularly it was the GAME. WVU was big but not that big. ND was BIG. Now all ACC games are BIG. This years PSU game is BIG even though it is not ACC.

Comment by Frank MD 06.17.16 @ 11:36 am

@Notrocket – That is not how winning programs think. They see it as wanting both, winning their big in state rival game AND winning their conference. They have the mentality that they don’t want to “settle”.

Comment by bj 06.17.16 @ 11:45 am

I didn’t say that is how the program should think. I am saying winning the ACC Coastal is more important.

I am sure Pitt wants to win every game and I sure as hell want them to win every game.

Comment by notrocketscience 06.17.16 @ 12:07 pm

Yes, winning the ACC Coastal is more important than the PSU game. But does anyone really think the PSU game “means” the same as the OK State game? That it’s just another out of conference game against a P5 opponent?? No way!! The PSU game is absolutely huge. There’s a reason we’ve been looking forward to this game for so long and are already getting pumped for it.

Comment by VictoryLites 06.17.16 @ 12:47 pm

Yes, winning the ACC Coastal is more important than the PSU game.

…exactly, that was my only point.

Comment by notrocketscience 06.17.16 @ 1:09 pm

IMO, in order of importance

1. winning the Coastal
2. beating PSU (for local recruiting)
3. beating OSU (for national esteem)

all of course are important

Comment by wbb 06.17.16 @ 1:40 pm

The win over penn state pays dividends for weeks to come in both team esprit de corps & momentum. Once this unproven Pitt squad acquires some confidence is the time when true upset wins start coming Pitt’s way.

This team’s attitude is much different going into Stillwater, OK with a win over their in state rival, then if they’re licking their wounds from a disheartening loss to those nasty nitters. A true upset win there then continues the positive vibes going into the UNC game. Being 3-0 when we hit Chapel Hill would nothing but positive momentum, another upset win there could be due to winning producing more winning. And so on and so on.

Beating penn state has a bearing on our entire season and therefore influences what is more important than just THAT game, the ACC Coastal Crown. So I think that we can all agree on one thing here, it would be a good thing to beat penn state.

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.17.16 @ 2:00 pm

Nationally winning the Costal is more important, but locally, beating the Nitters has much more importance. You can win the Coastal but if you lose to PSU kids and fans will say “that’s how weak the ACC is”. If you did not grow up with this game get ready, because you’re in for a treat!

Comment by JoeKnew 06.17.16 @ 2:39 pm

Our chances in the coastal are not good IMO. Our chances against PSU are 50/50 at best. i hate to be a downer on this board, but Pitt’s last two games of last season are hard to get past.

Comment by jrnpitt 06.17.16 @ 3:22 pm

No way we go 0 -4 against the
Tarheels… Win over PSU is huge in itself but more importantly feeds the confidence going into the OSU game

Comment by BigB 06.17.16 @ 3:38 pm

Of course the Pit-psux game is huge, especially for in-state recruiting. Why do you think the coaches spent do much time on social media with each other last summer? Not just for our entertainment!

Personally, I witnessed beat down after beat down ’66-’70, and savor EVERY chance to whip their tail! Saw Paturdno have his 2nd string QB throwing late in the 4th Qtr with a hugh lead. Those things last a life time! I’ much more excited to watch us beat psux than a bunch of arrogant aristocrats from crapel hill.

Comment by Savannah Panther 06.17.16 @ 3:53 pm

I say winning the National Championship is more important than winning the Coastal.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 6:15 pm

Savannah … Love that psux.. Need to trademark/ copyright it n turn it into merchandise.. A Pa guy living down here on the NC Outer Banks came up with OBX and has made a few pesos off of it

Comment by BigB 06.17.16 @ 6:50 pm

@Ray, I get what you are saying, 16 years is a long time between games for Pitt and PSU. However, I believe this rivalry is a smoldering ember of hate that will burst into a roaring fire as the game gets closer culminating on game day. For that reason, the games with PSU over the next four years will be epic. Each game will have a more intense atmosphere than the previous game. After this four game series ends there will be a very robust call for renewal from both fan bases. I would not be surprised if the politicians get involved like they did in Florida.

Comment by HbgFrank 06.17.16 @ 7:46 pm

@HbgFrank, exactly!

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.17.16 @ 7:51 pm

I for one didn’t want to see Wanny leave. I loved the guy, warts and all.

He was done in by a completely inept special teams coach … himself. If he’dda simply hired someone, anyone, who knew what the (heck) they were doing on special teams, Pitt would have won at least two Big East Conference championships, nobody would know the name Marty Gilliard, and he’d probably still be here, coach for life.

Oh, what might’ve been.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 06.17.16 @ 8:11 pm

IM, I think the budget DW was given might have had something to do with that.

Comment by HbgFrank 06.17.16 @ 8:16 pm

Penn State just another Game?

I want to see how UGLY it gets on this Board if Narduzzi somehow fails to do what’s expected on Sept 10.

And yes, Pitt will be favored.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 8:22 pm

Let me rephrase that…

I HATE to see how ugly it will get… and hopefully won’t have to with a HEALTHY James Conner in the Backfield.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 8:31 pm

And a Defense that gives up less than a half THOUSAND yards.

Remaining optimistic.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.17.16 @ 8:34 pm

Fellow Blatherites,
Never forget 1 thing:
PENN STATE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

Comment by pittman4ever 06.17.16 @ 10:24 pm

Pat Narduzzi high energy Paul Chryst low energy and he seems like he sleep walks through time Watch Wisconsin flounder under Christ wait and see The best thing Chryst did for Pitt was too get the hell out! Very dumb hire How did Chryst pass the interview with such slow talking and no energy????

Comment by Boo Boo #1 06.18.16 @ 6:35 am

I wouldn’t expect that Narduzzi will beat the dairy college. You guys are funny. We can say that las vegas is favoring us now, but let’s see how things look on September 9th.

Our best player just had knee surgery. We have no clue who will be playing from either team, yet you all are blathering about who should win. Good grief!! You take one day at a time in sports. One injury, one new breakthrough, one shattered confidence in a player or team and the dynamics change.

We need to be 1-0 first. Looking past 1-0 is a mistake. You prepare for tomorrow and once the games start, you prepare for the next weeks game. Hopefully, we win the first game and have no I
injuries. We all know what happened in the first game last year and it tempered season expectations.

Most important game – Villanova
Second most important game – PSU
Third most important game – and so on

then ACC Coastal
then ACC Championship Game
then Dairy College
then Bowl game…

trumping them all – RECRUITING!
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Comment by dhuffdaddy 06.18.16 @ 11:06 am

Cardiac Hill is reporting that ESPN feels that Nate Peterman is the most important Pitt player on the team to keep healthy this season.

YA THINK!?!?!?!?!?

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.18.16 @ 11:37 am

Hagen, did you ever get an answer on if the Pittsburgh Pro-AM Summer Basketball Tourney is still in existence?

Comment by PittPT 06.18.16 @ 11:39 am

POD @8:22: I’m only gonna say this once. You don’t ever use capital letters when refering to our country cousins from The East! That could be mistaken as a sign of respect.

And speaking of our countrified cousins from the East, I think it would be a nice sign of welcoming them to the big city, if a large number of Pitt fans dressed for the game in full Agricultural Attire: overalls with one of the shoulder straps unhooked; work boots; straw hat (for the sun, doncha know); and maybe a little “black out” on a couple of front teeth to show empathy with missing teeth from farm-based mishaps.

It’d probably be a welcoming gesture by our athletic department, if they could arrange to have 2 or 3 John Deere tractors parked out in the Visitors Section of Heinz’s parking lot. Just to give them a little “down home” feeling. This game will be, for many of them, their first venture away from the farm. Little touches like that would mean a lot to them!

OK, dhuff: I’m done. I’m on to concern about Villanova!!

Comment by Savannah Panther 06.18.16 @ 12:20 pm

Oh! One more touch. Perhaps we could spread a little Bovine Scatology around the visitor seating. Make them really feel like they were back in their beloved “happy valley” (Notice, POD, not capitalized!).

BTW, I wonder if the phrase “happy valley” is the source of that old cliche: ” Don’t give me any of your Happy Horse$hit”??!!

Comment by Savannah Panther 06.18.16 @ 12:36 pm

Dr Tom. I concur.

Comment by Sfpitt 06.18.16 @ 1:02 pm

savanna,
penn state still sucks in lower case!

Comment by pittman4ever 06.18.16 @ 1:39 pm

Pittman – you are so right. They haven’t made a case yet in which psux doesn’t suk!

Comment by Savannah Panther 06.18.16 @ 3:07 pm

Anyone switching from the Open to watch Big 33 at 7?

Comment by Dan 72 06.18.16 @ 5:19 pm

Are we playing Nova in Basketball or Football?

Comment by PittofDreams 06.18.16 @ 6:35 pm

Glad to see Connor doing great personally and wish him the best. With that said he isn’t a NFL RB or HBack. If he is money motivated I’d work out on Defense and go after many millions. NFL RB maybe gets him a late round pick or Free Agent. A stud LB / athlete gets him RD. 2/3. He isn’t fast enough at the next level. Glad to see him doiing so well and his connection with Sager. Speaking of Miami, Marlins are above .500 and the Bucs are back to ahitting the bed. At least we have the Pens.

Comment by Upittbaseball 06.18.16 @ 6:40 pm

You may be right Upitt, but James Conner is at least as fast as many Pro Bowl and HOF NFL running backs.

Comment by pittman4ever 06.18.16 @ 9:50 pm

Pittman – We shall see. Next level is very hard to be a RB.

Comment by Upittbaseball 06.18.16 @ 11:21 pm

Well Savannah, I just don’t like talking crap about games….until afterwards.

Will be driving thru savannah in the morning on the way to Smoky Mountains. Will beep along 95 as I pass your exit.

Hope our guys get out of the big33 without injury and have a great showing.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 06.18.16 @ 11:22 pm

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