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May 9, 2016

(When I say lighter I mean from the last FB article)

Here is Chris Peak’s latest podcast from the Trib-Review that he recorded last night and posted today.  There is always something interesting in these podcasts and I find myself constantly rewinding to make sure I get exactly what he’s saying.

Here he (tries to) list his Top five players on the Pitt roster going into the fall camp.  He mentions how some players work out right away; SO S Jordan Whitehead for example, and some others take a year or two to develop.

Surprisingly he mentions 3* recruit WR Aaron Matthews as someone who was overlooked by fan’s expectations of who will make an early impact this season as a true FR… then says Matthews may not play this year (??).  That reference is in context to  WR Juwann Winfree bagging out at the last moment. Remember the Winfree of the  suspension at Maryland, then over to CC, then pledged to Pitt, then off to Colorado?

Here’s a past article to jog your memory on that Matthews/Winfree subject.

But Peak feels that true FR WRs Flowers and Ffrench (sounds like good ’cause and effect’ on a date, eh?) are more likely to see playing time this season than any other FR WRs. He also mentions (now) SO WRs Quadree Henderson and Tre Tipton getting some PT early on last season and, in Henderson’s case at least, doing pretty well through the year.  Even though Henderson contributed mostly on Special Teams he showed the speed and talent which could push him up the depth chart at WR.

Anyway, Peak’s  Top Five 2016 Players list is interesting, especially given the fact that he doesn’t really do it.  he does talks at length about the players who could be on it, but never finalizes his list.

I’m glad he starts off by talking about Whitehead’s strength in run support.  Without it we would have been in a world of hurt.  I also agree about Nate Peterman.  Had he been more consistent over the whole season I could see him up there but that didn’t happen and leaves a big question mark for 2016 in my mind.

I’ll disagree with Chris one one Peterman point though – I think Peterman’s play in the two back-to-back wins against Duke (31-13)  in NC (3 TDs) and then against Louisville (4 TDs) at Heinz (45-34) was pretty damn good – and maybe even bordering on ‘spectacular’.

In those games he was 35 of 57 for 412 yards (61.4%) with 7 TDs and zero INTs for a combined QB rating of 163. That is excellent play. In each game his TDs were the margin of victory and those two wins gave us the bump from the dreaded six wins to the welcomed eight… and best of all gave us a 6-0 ACC record at the time.

He didn’t do it singly handed as Ollison was hot in those games also, but it did give us a glimpse of what could possibly happen with our passing game in 2016 if we keep our fingers crossed and Peterman out of the hospital.

Here is my Top Five for next season.  Along with my choices here is the final starting lineup from 2015 so you too can pick yours and put it in the comments section for us to discuss.

For me the following are the key players.  I am leaving Conner off on purpose due to circumstances and I’m projecting some stuff that isn’t based on a couple nominee’s 2015 play:

SO S Jordan Whitehead, Peak says it all.  This kid is just going to get better and thank God he didn’t go to prep school or this would be his last year with us.

rsSR WR Dontez Ford;  I believe that, save Conner returning to his 2014 form, Ford will be our next star on offense.  His production in the shadow of Tyler Boyd was pretty amazing.  He had the best ypc average for any Pitt receiver who had more than 25 catches since Greg Lee’s 19.6 in 2005.

  Ford had 26 catches for 505 yards with an excellent 19.4 ypc.  he isn’t the fastest or the biggest but he gets the job done every time the ball is thrown his way.  i can’t remember one drop by Ford in his career either.

rsSR LT Adam Bisnowaty Good, strong and consistent.  He anchors the OL and contrary to some pundits beliefs I think the OL will struggle at first.  Bisnowaty’s steady play and seniority will help with that.

rsSO DE Dewayne Hendrix; I don’t care that he hasn’t taken a snap in a Pitt uniform in anger yet. I think Hendrix will be the complement to Ford’s stardom but on defense.This player is 6’4″ and at least 270 (probably a bit heavier with more muscle weight) and fast as hell. The coaches rave about him and I think with good cause.  He reminds me of DE Jabaal Sheard.

SR DT Tyrique Jarrett;  He’s poised to be the key on the DL  and will be a good run stopper. He’s 6’3″ and 335 and quicker than most think.  Now that Render is gone he’ll get starting playing time and make the most of it.

Honorable Mention: SR TE Scott Orndoff; He plays much like a big WR and splits out sometimes.  He’s faster than a normal TE and when Canada goes to multiple receiver formations he’ll be a main target for Peterman.  Orndoff had 18.8 ypc with a team second-best five TDs.  Now that Boyd is gone Orndoff will get more touches and will produce.

The PITT News has a nice bit of info today.  The kudos and recognition keep rolling in for Dan Marino, and in this case, some other PGH greats. The city has taken a nice step in the right direction in putting up this sign:

Bruno Sammartino and Dan Marino hold up a sign dedicated to them and Andy Warhol on Tuesday morning. Alexa Bakalarski / News Editor

“Andy Warhol’s renowned pop art might be housed in a museum across the river, but he got his start in Oakland.

At 10 a.m. on Tuesday, about 40 people joined Mayor Bill Peduto at the intersection of Dawson and Swinburne Streets in South Oakland as he recognized Warhol and two other Pittsburgh greats by re-dedicating a sign in their honor.

Members of the community dedicated a sign to NFL Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino and Warhol about 25 years ago, but the updated sign now includes former heavyweight champion and retired professional wrestler Bruno Sammartino. All three Pittsburghers grew up in the South Oakland neighborhood.

“If you think about it, there are probably few places on Earth where within a few blocks three people rose from three fields to become internationally known,” Peduto said.”

Isn’t it interesting that Warhol is teamed with the two people from Pittsburgh that he most probably have wanted to sleep with?

Actually if you look at the picture’s background closely this sign isn’t a new concept, at least for Danny. Here are some action clips from each of our three South Oakland men…

Danny Marino is well known for his arm but look at this;

Because I love you guys, even T-Bear if he’s reading this, I got off my lazy ass and will give you this to watch over lunch. Can’t ever get enough of watching Dan Marino throw the football however ‘past and not present‘ the subject is.

Here is perhaps most interesting of all and the least talked about by Pitt people.  Sports fans probably disregard ‘stars’ like Andy Warhol because of the genre’ in which he shone but in truth he had more of an societal impact, and will be remembered and revered the longest, of the three subjects.

Take a five minute break and watch this if you will. Disregard the snotty comment by the narrator that Warhol “…escaped (Pittsburgh) and went to New York.”  However, in his case that way probably true – being gay in Pittsburgh when he was growing up couldn’t have been easy.

Anyway, I heard him in other interviews talking about his hometown and he’s always been nothing but gracious, even praising the citizens. So – watching this can’t hurt and we could learn a thing or two about a fellow ‘Burgh Brother.

I don’t necessarily like all of Warhol’s art like I obviously do Dan Marino’s play. Sammartino I don’t really care about as that sort of wrestling isn’t a sport in my eyes – but it is fun to watch sometimes and I’m proud he’s from my hometown.  But it is correct to include Warhol with the other two and I’m glad the city did it.

 

 

 





From Chad Voytik:

“Jonesboro is a college town, which is something that I haven’t really experienced in the past four years,” he explained. “There’s a stadium right on campus that holds 30 thousand and sells out for their games. It just seems like an experience that I want to have for my (final) year.”

Comment by panther94 05.09.16 @ 11:16 am

BTW, that’s over on Cardiac Hill.

Comment by panther94 05.09.16 @ 11:16 am

Reed… this finally explains it.

Voytik’s transfer was really all about the OCS.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 11:19 am

— On Aaron Mathews — don’t know if he’ll be ready to jump right in, but I remember being very impressed with some video of him going against some high-rated DBs in a camp. Aaron was very aggressive coming off the line, made crisp cuts, and seemed to have good hands. Which is why I couldn’t understand the talk of him as a safety…

We could use one of the frosh WRs making an immediate impact, a la Antonio Bryant…

Go Pitt.

Comment by MajorMajors 05.09.16 @ 11:32 am

My top five players:

–Whitehead. Duh.
–Scott Orndoff. The Pitt Gronk.
–Brain O’Neill. Based on what he did last year, with limited prep time, this guy should be awesome this season.
–Q. Henderson: with a year of experience, his quickness should be a real weapon.
–Avonte Maddox: under-rated by Pitt fans. Despite his size, will be tough to throw against this season.

Honorable mentions:
–Hendrix – expected to see a bit more quickness in the spring game, still hopeful he will be an impact player.
–Dontez Ford – dependable, hope he can make some big scoring plays this season.

–Mike Caprara, of all people. Just seems like a gamer – with improved DL play, he should make a lot of plays.

Darker-Horse Candidates:
Ibrahim; Wirginis; Jones-Smith; Camp; Mitchell; Peterman.

Comment by MajorMajors 05.09.16 @ 11:48 am

Major – I like what O’Neill did also, just not in my top five. I really like Wirginis also as he’s one of the the quicker LB Pitt has had in a while… and hits hard.

I saw that quote elsewhere but I have spent my allotment of Voytik words for this week. Hope he tunes into the Pitt vs PSU game to see what a sold-out Heinz looks like (BTW – he’s seen it before in his time at Pitt) and to know that he could have been part of our glorious win that day.

Oh wait – he’ll be with the Red Wolves at Auburn that day so he will see a sold-out stadium… and an opponents score that may go into triple digits.

Oops – talked about him anyway.

Actually Arkansas State did pretty well last year

… and it looks like he has less competition to play there than he would have at E. Kentucky so maybe he’ll get into that Sept 10 Auburn game and lead the Rouge Loups to victory.

Comment by Reed 05.09.16 @ 12:09 pm

I’d rather state my top five “newcomers” that will make an impact in 2016. And considering the fact that Jams Conner was absent for 99% of last season, I’d classify him as such and anticipate him being a major factor in Pitt’s success in 2016. His impact will be both felt by his in field offensive production as well as his emotional influence on the team by emulating the “Conner Strong” mindset while transferring that same MoJo to the rest of the Panthers also.
My other four are Hendrix, Camp, Hamlin & my guy from last season who never saw a snap because he was Red Shirted, Allen Edwards.

Why 80% defensive players? Because that is how Pitt wins games this season, with their defense keeping the game from getting out of reach. Everyone of these four will help improve that pass rush and improve Pitt’s ability to stop the run.

Hendrix will become a force this season! And Allen Edwards is still the guy that I think surprises us with his speed off the edge at DE too.

Comment by Dr. Tom 05.09.16 @ 12:58 pm

I think Hendrix make a BIG impact with Ejuan Price on the other side.

Comment by Pittastic 05.09.16 @ 1:27 pm

Agree that picking established Players is pretty easy.

Alot more difficult to project those who have yet to get on the field… and not just incoming Freshmen.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 1:30 pm

Leaving Conner aside as Reed mentioned — a very big aside however — how ’bout Darren Hall and Reggie Mitchell? Hall looked quick and strong once he figured out he needed to wait on his blockers, and I think he has more potential than Ollison…who was very productive. And Mitchell showed poise and toughness fighting thru his injuries and was a very good open field tackler as I recall.

Comment by Matt N. 05.09.16 @ 1:39 pm

Even if Conner is ready to go by game 1 — which would be remarkably studly — I’d like to see him alternate series with Hall anyway, just to let him ease back into it and spare his knee some pounding ’till he gets totally up to speed…and Hall has breakaway speed which would be a nice compliment to Conner’s bashing.

Comment by Matt N. 05.09.16 @ 1:43 pm

I’m worried about the backup QB situation — if Peterman gets hurt, not sure Stocker should play more than 1-2 games as a sub. Like to see him play and not to diss him, but when they turn you into a WR after you were recruited as a QB, usually means, ‘Houston, we have a throwing problem’, ala Anthony Gonzalez.

If Peterman is out for 3 or more games, I say take the bubble wrap off MacVittie and give him some real experience…Danny M. played as a true frosh. and if this kid is close to as good as they say, it would help him enormously for taking over the next season.

Comment by Matt N. 05.09.16 @ 1:49 pm

OK the4n – Top Five Newcomers (and not cheating with Conner Doc)

1. rsSO James Hendrix, Jr at DE

2. FR Harry Hamlin at DB

3. rsFR Elijah Zeise at LB

4. rsFR Pontious Pilato at OL

5. FR Walter Camp VIII at DL

Comment by Reed 05.09.16 @ 1:54 pm

@Matt Prior to last season I was really high on Hall coming into the season. With that said, he was disappointing. No wiggle whatsoever and I think he broke something like 2 tackles all year. Speed isn’t great. He didn’t have a good year.

Comment by bj 05.09.16 @ 2:11 pm

Need Chris Blewitt to be POY.

Comment by alcofan 05.09.16 @ 2:20 pm

See the D-Line as being the MOST improved area. Already posted so much.

Not sure about the names… but Hendrix would seem to have the inside track.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 2:47 pm

However, anyone named “Walter Camp” would have to be good.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 2:52 pm

Based on production, Pitt’s best 5:
1. Jordan Whitehead
2. Q Ollison
3. E Price
4. Bizno
5. A Officer
most overhyped: Hendrix

Comment by Grizzly1 05.09.16 @ 3:22 pm

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Good luck and wishes to Chad!

Comment by JR 05.09.16 @ 4:05 pm

I’m very close to Grizzly1’s list:

1. Jordan Whitehead
2. Biz
3. E. Price
4. Q Ollison
5. Nate Peterman
Note: If your QB isn’t in the top 5 you’re teams in trouble in MHO

Comment by pittman4ever 05.09.16 @ 6:44 pm

Don’t speak French… but think some Kid named after the native language of France might just hit the ground running.

Just a thought.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 7:12 pm

And don’t underestimate another Kid from a little closer to Town.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 7:15 pm

Bottom line… there are some SPECIAL Kids in this Recruiting Class.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.09.16 @ 7:17 pm

POD – if you’re right about the DL being the most improved area (and I’m hoping you are!), that will do wonders for the DBs as well. As we’ve seen over and over, you (we) can’t cover receivers for ever!! Pressure/pressure/pressure! And a 2-3 sacks per game.

Get the freakin’ ball back, and let our road greders and thoroughbreds run ’em to death!

Comment by Savannah Panther 05.09.16 @ 9:08 pm

Returning top five (not named Conner):

1. J.Whitehead
2. J.Price
3. Q.Ollison
4. N.Peterman
5. S.Orndorff

Newcomer top five:

1. D.Hamlin
2. C.Pine
3. Hendrix
4. G.Hill
5. R.Flowers

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 05.09.16 @ 9:09 pm

Love the “cause and effect” joke, Reed.

H2P

Comment by panther94 05.09.16 @ 9:47 pm

My top five players coming back off injuries:

1. J.Conner
2. J.Jones Smith
3. R.Ibrahim
4. A.Officer
5. R.Mitchell

Comment by Erie Express 05.10.16 @ 5:22 am

It is nice to think that we may have more than a few playmakers. Just have not had enough recently.

This was a very positive thread.

Maybe we ought to have the list of our five weakest links so UPitt and a few others can join in. I kid UPitt.

Comment by gc 05.10.16 @ 9:12 am

Top 5 newcomers
Hamlin
Flowers
Hendrix
The other frosh CB
Dane Jachson not a fan of Webb

Top returners
Zeise new position
Soto new position
Bizno
Any CB but Maddox
Peterman agree with Erie he has to be real good or its trouble

Connor is way too obvious

Comment by Taxing Matters 05.10.16 @ 12:01 pm

Reed if you don’t stop your obsession with CV you will end up like Inspector Dreyfus writing on the white padded cell wearing his white straight jacket writing “Kill Clousseau” with his feet and a purple pen.
link to youtube.com

Come on coastie you can do it!! 🙂

Comment by rkb 05.10.16 @ 12:08 pm

I’m surprised so many put Ollison in the top 5. This being a RB who was third on the depth chart behind connor and Ibrahim. The one name I really didn’t see was Moss. This was a guy who really pushed the others this spring and was ahead of Ollison for a while. Outside of JC, I can’t put any RB as part of my top 5. At the end of the season I say these will be the top 5 players on the team: Whitehead, Peterman, Hendrix, ONeil, and Connor. Hard to leave out Hamlin and Orndorff.

Comment by FoolOfPitt 05.10.16 @ 3:24 pm

I posted (15) different top players and only two were on the Oline, which is ranked #1 in the ACC. So add three more, making that (18) top players.

We start (22) – the other four could be:

D.Ford
Caprara
Galombos
Henderson

The first team looks really good for a change.

How about Wirginis, Bam Bradley, Mitchell, Maddox, Zeiss, D.Hall, Moss and T.Webb?

Depth is starting to happen in a good way…

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 05.10.16 @ 6:15 pm

bj,

I agree Hall looked lost in the first handful of games and then didn’t get many touches until later in the season…but his last few games, I thought, showed some zip and vision — especially vs. Miami. His overall stats were not great, but he looked like a young guy who figured it out and was going to get better and better…too bad we didn’t have 2-3 more games in the season to see what he could do.

Comment by Matt N. 05.11.16 @ 1:27 am

Too bad, because of injuries, we couldn’t redshirt him and let him work on the scout team for a year. If Conner is back, maybe redshirt him this year and have Ibrahim and/or Ollison serve as backups.

Comment by Matt N. 05.11.16 @ 1:31 am

And with Moss in the mix, and maybe the other highly touted recruit, Hill?, we could have a stable of thoroughbreds back there for the next 2-3 seasons at least.

Comment by Matt N. 05.11.16 @ 1:35 am

Matt N – D.Hall is from Youngstown, OH and is a favorite of HCPN because of their hometown connection. And D.Hall practices well (which HCPN places a lot of weight on for playing time) but this young man has not transferred his talent to game day (yet).

Q.Ollison is from Buffalo, NY and does not seem to practice well. But, QO has performed well on game day.

Where have we heard this story before? – I know, dead horse…

Fortunately, Pitt will need more than one RB and we have a whole stable of talented backs.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 05.11.16 @ 6:02 am

If Moss and Hill turn out to be good D1 athletes maybe one of them sees the defensive backfield in the future.

Comment by Reed 05.11.16 @ 7:33 am

My guess is Hill – I’m glad we can have this discussion. There is a feeling that good D1 athletes are coming to Pitt in greater #’s than we have seen in about 30 years.

Anticipation – it’s making me wait…

Comment by Erie Express 05.11.16 @ 3:16 pm

Erie — agree, its all about production. Some guys get it right away (Ollison) and some do later (Hall?), but you have to do it on gameday.

If Conner is healthy, maybe a moot point ’till 2017?

Comment by Matt N. 05.14.16 @ 12:11 pm

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