The local media and we here on the Blather have been in some serious discussions about our current QB corps. The reason for that is that coming out of spring practices there is some real trepidation about who will be the back-up QB in case starter Nate Peterman goes down with an injury.
The main questions seem to be “Can Pitt recruit good quarterbacks?” and the answer is… it depends.
That’s a loaded question and really has two ways to be answered; first is can we land highly rated QB recruits and second, can we get our recruited QBs to play at the expected level or even exceed that?
These discussions led me to want to review the last 15 years of our QBs, both those we recruited and those we placed on the roster via transferring in from another program. So, I did some digging and came up with the table below.
Before you get too deep into it here are some notes on it. The ‘Year” is the recruiting class. The numbers in parentheses are the highest national recruit ranking for the QB position the player received – I used the higher of two if the player was ranked by both Rivals and Scouts.
Also, the last column is my opinion based not only on the stars awarded but on what I understood to be the Pitts fans’ expectations of the player in question.
| Year | QB | Rival | Scout | Meet Expectations? |
| ‘02 | Ty Palko (8th) | 4* | 4* | Yes, three year starter; very good |
| ‘03 | Joe Flacco | 3* | 3* | Left program; played well; star in NFL |
| ‘04 | Rob Agnone | 2* | 2* | Moved to TE and left program |
| ‘05 | Bill Stull | 3* | 3* | Yes; two year starter; average |
| ‘06 | Kevan Smith | 3* | 2* | No-Bust; switched to baseball |
| D. Davidson | 2* | 3* | No-Bust; left program | |
| ‘07 | P Bostick (6th) | 5* | 4* | No; played 4 years, had highlights |
| ‘08 | Tino Sunseri | 3* | 3* | Yes, 3 year starter; average |
| Greg Cross | 4* | 3* | No-Bust; moved to WR | |
| ‘09 | Kolby Grey | 3* | 3* | No-Bust, left program |
| ‘10 | M Myers (11th) | 3* | 4* | No; left program; played very well in D2 |
| Gonzalez (13th) | 4* | 3* | No; moved to LB and played well | |
| ‘11 | N/A | |||
| ‘12 | C. Voytik (12th) | 4* | 4* | No; started 1 year, left program |
| T. Savage (8th) | 4* | 4* | Transfer in; started & played well; in NFL | |
| ‘13 | Chapman (12th) | 4* | 4* | No; Expelled from Pitt |
| 14’ | Adam Bertke | 3* | 3* | ?? 3rd year probably not on ’16 2-deep |
| ‘15 | Ben DiNucci | 2* | 2* | ?? 2nd year probably not on ’16 2 deep |
| Peterman (8th) | 4” | 4” | Transferred in; now starter, playing well | |
| ‘16 | T. MacVitte | 3* | 3* | ?? Probably savior of the program 😉 |
| Avg* | 3.36 | 3.21 |
Just what is the takeaway here?
In my thoughts it seems as if we aren’t too bad in getting high school star QBs to commit then attend Pitt. It is getting them to stay in the program and/or play up to expectations that are the sticking point. Sometimes the more highly starred recruits are here one day and gone the next for reasons outside of football.
Here what happened with some of our 5* and 4* kids:
4* Tra’von Chapman’s well publicized assault charges put an abrupt end to his time at Pitt. He met all the judicial punishments that were imposed and transferred to Akron where he’s riding the pine as they say. A good kid that did bad things.
4* Chad Voytik didn’t see any playing time happening here once another 4* Nate Peterman beat him out for the starting job so he took his ball and went off for greener pastures…. somewhere. Looks like eastern Kentucky where there is already an established starting QB returning who played well for the E. K. Colonels in 2015, he’ll have a tough job getting a starting shot there IMO.
4* Mark Myers never met a cold beer or a freshman co-ed he didn’t like, or a text book that he did like, so he packed his ’68 VW van and went to a place where football was played more for fun than it was played for business and excelled at D2 John Carroll.
4* Anthony Gonzalez stayed at Pitt and played some QB in the Wildcat formation in reFR year. moved to OLB where he started for two years and really helped bolster the defense, leading the team in tackles his SR year. He was an honorable mention All-ACC if in his SR year.
4* Greg Cross transferred in from a Junior College where he set passing records and when he put on a Pitt uniform he couldn’t throw and accurate pass to save his life. Wannstedt moved him over to WR just to keep from taking away practice snaps from the other QBs on the roster – total bust.
5* Pat Bostick had a rough go of it when traveling to his freshman fall camp and turned around back toward central PA. Once back in camp after a two week hiatus he ended up being thrust into a starting role by injuries and never really had a chance to settle in and grow into a starting position as an upperclassman. His talents were overrated but he was, and still is, a great representative of the university.
As far as our highly ranked recruits go we have really fallen short of the bar with the exception of Tyler Palko. Some transfers who had 4* have helped in Tom Savage’s playing 2013 helped us to a winning season and now Nate Peterman’s taking over after three games last year and leading Pitt to a 8-5 record.
He’ll continue on for this upcoming season also so you can see that aside from Greg Cross our transfer QBs have worked out very well.
What sucks is that we haven’t even gotten one of the ‘lightning in a bottle’ guys who comes into a program with a low 2* ranking and blossoms into a solid or, if we were very lucky, a star QB. Instead our crap 2* kids played like crap 2* kids.
I mean hell, when one of your best and most solid QBs, and one of the only ones with a multiple-year winning record under his belt, is 3* Tino Sunseri you know your QB world is in the toilet. How weird is it that someone who started three years just like fan favorite Tyler Palko did would end up slightly ahead of Palko as far as statistics go?
Again, we all know Sunseri’s story – that stats lie – and we all know that his play out on the field was inconsistent and at times hilariously terrible… but over the last 15 years he’s arguably the second best player we put out there. I suppose you could throw Billy Stull in there if you like…
The verdict is that we can get them to Pitt as highly rated recruits but either we can’t hold them or they break our hearts with their average at best, but mostly bad though, play out on the field.
15 years is a long time to have a drought without a true Big Time star at the most important position on the field. Could it be time to quit calling PSU “The place where QBs go to die” when Pitt has done exactly the same thing? Good HS QBs come here and wither away.
We haven’t had any QBs that we actually recruited and kept at Pitt over their college careers get drafted into the NFL in decades. That screams volumes that something is wrong with our program right there. Of course, there is always next year, or the next kid, or a better OC, or…..
I’m not sure I agree that the verdict “that we can get them to Pitt as high rated recruits.” Of the 19 names on that list, only 3 of them were consensus 4* (excluding transfers). That’s pretty bad, no?
Another takeaway is that there’s a lot of WPa names on that list and our last three starting QBs have from elsewhere.
With many high school QBs running more than they pass the pickins are getting slimmer. You have to recruit quality all the way around, not just certain positions.
Cliche, but true. We’re gonna have to see. We have a new head coach putting down a foundation, only time will tell.
Allthough not great, Pitt is not known as having terrible quarterbacking, nothing that stands out to a 17 year old that says, “don’t go their, you know what happens to qb’s”.
So, we have no stigma what so ever. We’ve been blah when you mix everything together, not great, not terrible.
So, really, it’s up to PN and staff to get some in here.
If Pat Narduzzi and crew are here for 10 years or so, I’d say we’re gonna be getting some great quarterbacks.
If he up and leaves in a year or two, we’ll probably continue on our path.
Mike Vick coming out of there. Your offense has to be geared to the passing game and Pitt has been running back U all the above years. Baylor, Okie St and dare I say WVU play the wide open O that attracts QB’s. I don’t see changing the O
So Runningback U it is and that’s just fine with me.
It’s one thing to be obsessed with delivering every little tidbit about Pitt football.
It’ quite another to apply some independent thinking to draw attention to the less than obvious.
In my opinion, you do a far better job of it than Peak.
PN seems to get it. You could since his frustration last season with the offense not being aggressive. He and Canada appear to have some chemistry.
In a nut shell, Pitt began struggling at the QB position when we went conservative on offense. You want plays? You have to let your QB make plays. That requires a trust factor that Wanny and Chryst were too risk adverse to give.
Let’s not over complicate matters. This is clearly a problem that started with the HC and their philosophies on offense.
A couple of thoughts:
–One who got away back in the late 90s was Mike McMahon from North Allegheny, who ended up at Rutgers. He could throw and run – and ended up on NFL rosters for several years.
–Course there was also CC’s Marc Bulger, who we missed on.
–McMahon or Bulger would have been awesome under Walt.
–I always thought it peculiar that Palko didn’t run much at all at Pitt. Would have liked to have seen him have some designed plays – not just at the goal line.
–Which reminds me that Luke Getsy, who strangely committed the same year as Palko, was also a heck of a QB – I think he went on to excellent things at Akron (maybe?).
–I know it would never have been done, but I always thought that Pitt would have been a much better team if Palko had played safety and Getsy had played QB…
–Needless to say, we need MacVittie to be the real deal…
EDIT: huh, I always thought Luke Getsy was higher rated than a 2* kid with no other offer but Pitt.
Go Pitt.
Amazing how well Harris did year after year with QB’s. Maybe not NFL level, buy all starters competent.
Reed, what about Getty and there was another Slovic named guy transferred to Toledo I think?
Where did Rutherford fit in?
Voytik didn’t quite fit into the pro system. Wish him luck in finding a program where he will play and show off his talents.
What did Narduzzi say or do to turn off Jurkovec? Who is Jurkovic?
I didn’t want to write in too much detail above but some kids just got recruited, or were thrown into, tough circumstances or an offensive system that just didn’t fit their strengths as a QB.
Flacco had the bad luck to be on the roster at the same time as the WPIAL Golden Boy Tyler Palko – he wasn’t going to be a starter at Pitt unless Palko was injured long-term.
Palko thrived under Harris and was then handcuffed under Wannstedt. He played well in that limited QB role but let’s be honest – after that very good SO season we expected him to be slinging TD passes all during the season but it was his passing efficiency that helped the offense the most.
Mark Myers was recruited by DW for a Pro-Style offense then got stuck when DW was fired and didn’t fit at all in Graham’s more wide-open offensive philosophy. I think Myers left a year too early, he may have beat out Sunseri had he stayed and played under Chryst and Rudolph as the OC.
I though it weird that Chryst recruited Tra’von Chapman as the rap on him as he was being recruited was ‘good legs average arm’ and Chryst seemed to like those big drop back guys who could throw downfield – hence Savage’s transfer in.
Voytik would have thrived with Graham’s mindset that put the premium on a running QB rather than a passing one – graham believe the pass was use as a change up to his multiple running formations offense. But CV was sort of a round peg in a square hole when Chryst came onboard.
Then we get a new HC and OC and Voytik was hit with a 2×4 when the staff wanted someone who could drop back and pass rather than want to take off and run at the first opportunity. Once they saw Peterman could play well as a starter and could actually put one foot in front of the other Voytik was expendable.
But those guys were good ‘gets’ in recruiting – they just didn’t pan out for one reason or another.
I called MacVitte ‘savior’ as a joke but i can tell that a lot of fans on the message boards and in my conversations with them really do feel that this kid will be “The One” and he may well be. I hope so but really, we have seen this QB excitement happen at Pitt many times in the past and the only kid that really lived up to it was Tyler Palko.
What did the kid say negative about PITT or Narduzzi?
PITTSBURGH—Pitt head coach Pat Narduzzi is tapping the “Spirit of ‘76” for the upcoming Blue-Gold Spring Game.
Narduzzi announced today that all-time Pitt greats Tony Dorsett and Matt Cavanaugh—two catalysts for the Panthers’ 1976 national championship team—will serve as honorary coaches for the Blue-Gold Game held at Heinz Field on April 16.
“Our entire program is thrilled that Tony and Matt will be with us for the spring game,” Narduzzi said. “These men helped set the standard at Pitt. Our players and coaches walk past their images every day in our practice facility—including their Sports Illustrated cover celebrating the national title. They are Pitt legends and we are honored to have them back.”
The 1976 Panthers stormed to a 12-0 record, capped by a 27-3 Sugar Bowl victory over Georgia, en route to being unanimously selected the nation’s No. 1 team. This fall marks the 40th anniversary of that magical season.
Dorsett is one of the greatest running backs in the history of the game, college and pro. As a senior in 1976, he rushed for 2,150 yards and was the runaway winner of the Heisman Trophy. A four-time All-American, Dorsett became the first player in NCAA history to reach 6,000 career rushing yards.
In 1977, Dorsett was the first-round pick of the Dallas Cowboys where he played 11 seasons (1977-87), including two Super Bowls and four Pro Bowls. He played his final year with the Denver Broncos (1988) and finished his career as the second all-time leading rusher in NFL history (12,739).
Dorsett was elected into the College Football Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1994.
“I always love coming back home to Pitt and being around the current players,” Dorsett said. “There is an unspoken bond because we are all Panthers. I told Coach Narduzzi to get those guys ready. Matt and I are expecting to see big things when they take the field for the spring game!”
Cavanaugh is one of the most accomplished quarterbacks in Pitt history. He capped the 1976 national title season with an MVP performance against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Cavanaugh scored the first touchdown of the game and the celebration of that score became a Sports Illustrated cover (Jan. 10, 1977). His effective blend of passing and running made him an All-American in 1977 and his 3,378 career passing yards still rank among the top 15 in Pitt annals.
Presently the quarterbacks coach for the Washington Redskins, Cavanaugh himself spent 14 years as an NFL signal-caller. A second-round selection of New England in 1978, he played five seasons (1978-82) with the Patriots before moving on to stints with the San Francisco 49ers (1983-85), Philadelphia Eagles (1986-89) and New York Giants (1990-91).
In addition to his collegiate championship, Cavanaugh earned three Super Bowl rings: two as a player (with the 49ers in 1984 and the Giants in 1990) and one as a coach (Baltimore Ravens in 2000).
His 23-year coaching career includes two tours with his alma mater. Cavanaugh was Pitt’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2005-08 and also was the Panthers’ tight ends coach in 1993.
“I was incredibly honored when Coach Narduzzi called to invite me back as an honorary coach,” Cavanaugh said. “Pat is doing a tremendous job at Pitt and I’m excited to see the team firsthand. Having the opportunity to do this with my old teammate Tony makes it even more special.”
This 2016 Blue-Gold Game will feature a true game format with the team being divided by position into two separate squads. Admission for the Blue-Gold Game is free for all fans. Doors at Heinz Field will open at 11:30 a.m., and parking will be available in the Gold lots beginning at 10 a.m. For more information and a listing of the day’s various fan attractions, click here: Blue-Gold Game Fan Information
Season tickets and mini-plans for the 2016 Pitt football season are now on sale. Call the Pitt Ticket Office at (800) 643-PITT (7488) or log on to PittsburghPanthers.com.
Then Voytik should have been ‘played well’.
For their stats almost mirror eachother.
Peterman:
193 of 313 for 2287 yards 7.3 ypa 20 & 8, 139rating
Voytik:
176 of 287 for 2233 yards 7.8 ypa 16 & 7 140rating
Petermans passing % = 61.7%
Votik’s passing % = 61.3%
Voytik was first Pitt passer EVER to lead a Conf in QB rating in 2014 in conf. games.
So you gave CV the ‘short shrift’ again.
Its our running game and Defense that will win games. We just need a QB that doesnt take terrible sacks like Sackseri and can maybe just ONE time lead the team back in the 4th quarter. Something Tina NEVER did in FOUR years.
Like we did in 2015 under Peterman.
So please change that Reed.
It appears cronyism is more important at Pitt than winning.
Or Flacco and Myers would have been starting QB’s.
Interesting how neither got a fair chance.
Reed and TT, respectfully guys, the Chryst family had no reasonable belief that Geep would stay at SF for any length of time. He arrived there in 2011 and is already gone. The coaching profession is more nomadic than active duty military. He is set to be the starter at Stanford this year, so at least if he is successful he will be at the expense of Fraud and DickRod.
Thats the Pitt athletics program for ya throughout the years. Nothin better than a cheap whore on Liberty. Just not worth my genitals soaking in gasoline after the experience.
2$ – that same logic can be applied to why he didn’t come to Pitt. He lived in SF, dad coached for the niners and he had a scholly from Stanford. Where are most kids going in that situation? Pitt never was considered. He’d be sitting out this year as a transfer to Madison anyway.
In his two years at Akron – yeah, its Akron – Getsy threw for 41 TDs and 23 INTS with a QB rating of 120.
Go Pitt.
The “southern” radio guy was arguing with a guy who thought NCS was vulnerable.
Exasperated, the “southern” boy blurred out “NC STATE WILL WIN BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER COACHED!”.
The next day I watched Getsy sneak in of his left guard and beat NC State.
Luke was a very good QB.
NC States coach was fired at year end.
BTW, Voytik did lose to a true meddling team in 2014, the Akron Zips.
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Pitt in no way should lose to Navy any year.
I know you love them, but come on.
Cost us the chance at being #1 that year.
But who knows maybe at 10-0 Pitt and #2 in the country, would have still be bypassed by the Crony Bowl system.
Emel, the 1963 loss to Navy hurt. I watched that game somewhere on the PITT campus. Does anyone remember where they piped in the telecast? It was a big deal.
Of course you guys know what happened next. Kennedy got shot and the Penn State game was delayed.
Never could figure out why PITT didn’t get any love that year. For many years thereafter, we didn’t deserve any.
47% of the QB’s left the program. (9 / 19). Stated differently, just under 1/2 of QBs recruited to Pitt not only will not contribute fully for 4 years but are likely to leave the program.
Ouch!!! That is a very high attrition rate. Now switching coaches likely contributed I suspect.
Would you send your son to a program with that attrition rate?
So is it a poor process of selecting the right kids (fit) for the program?
Poor evaluation of talent?
Poor development of the talent?
Musical chairs of coaches (HC/OC/QBC)?
I suspect a little bit of each.
Musical chairs with the coaches has certainly hurt at Pitt with QB recruiting and development.
Go Pitt.
If you take off your Voytik-prescribed reading glasses you’ll see two things.
1) I didn’t even say the Peterman ‘met expectations’ only that he’s playing well. I did that because the ‘expectations’ I refer to, and read the article again please, was what came along with their high recruiting ratings and was what the Pitt fans thought these players would accomplish over the course of their careers on our team.
If Peterman plays as well, or hopefully better, this season then I may feel he met the expectations of a 4* QB recruit, but just like with Voytik’s play in 2014 I don’t think Peterman merited my saying “Yes” based only on what he what he did last season.
2) With all that in mind I gave Voytik a “No” because you are truly the only Pitt fans I have met, read or talked to who believes Voytik played like a consensus 4* recruit during his time at Pitt.
C’mon Emel – your nit-picking obsession with every word I write about Chad Voytik is getting borderline ridiculous. There is nowhere in this article where I wrote anything negative about Voytik yet you have taken fiction-based umbrage so far you actually have asked me to re-write part of my own article. Which absolutely won’t happen.
I find it strange that you have held onto this for so long. You left here for a while, we missed you on the football articles, and in the first few days you are back you do this ‘defend Voytik at all cost’ kabuki drama all over again.
Hail to Pitt!
You asked me to comment on the football articles the other day.
I did.
So, all I did was compare Voytik’s play to Pederman’s. Which was almost identical in terms of stats. So therefore, if Pederman was ‘playing well’….Voytik ‘played well’.
No kabuki dance. That’s my comment.
Do we all have to agree with you ?
Wanny, loved by many, is the one who shafted Flacco, much like STallings did Jeter. Wanny idea of a QB was someone to hand off – hence 4 years of Tiny.
Voytik did not meet expectations therefore no qualifiers are needed.
Of course you don’t have to agree with me but you continually insist that Voytik be compared to everyone else when this table addresses each player separately. But, personally I don’t think Voytik played at the talent level Peterman did and you can throw all the stats around you want to. Peterman played at a bit above average level and, to me, Voytik was average at best.
Then I’ll throw stats around that show that Sunseri was as good as Palko and Marino… as stats go that is and then we’ll both know we are full of crap..
That is my opinion.
What I think about Voytik not sticking around to try to win the starting job back or to help Pitt as the QB2 is a separate matter. You seem to think he kid walked on water for some reason and I think he won a starting job by default because of zero competition in ’14, played blah football and had a 6-7 record… and that he’s truly a small blip footnote in Pitt’s football history and will be forgotten in five years.
Ever since back in the summer of ’15 when you insisted that Nate Petermen was being brought in ‘only to be the 3rd string QB’ – and you said that specifically – and I countered that Peterman would ‘be right in the competition for the starting job and just might win it’ you’ve had this running animosity with me regarding Voytik. Its like you just can’t admit you are wrong about things.
You need to admit that Voytik started choking as soon as he had a hint of any real competition in the beginning of camp, couldn’t handle it when Peterman started getting all the QB1 snaps in the last week of camp, then completely blew any shot he had at even playing some times any longer by his very poor play in the first three games.
Emel, he blew it and then he quit the team. You can spin it any way you want to and you can trot out all the stats you want to but the reality is that he handled things poorly and immaturely and left the team when we needed him. You can say he went to get PT somewhere else but I’ll say he had other more compelling reasons to leave the team.
Hurrah for him if he catches on with another team, let’s hope he does and he has fun because he wasn’t at Pitt, but his story as a Panther is truly nothing special at all.
We all know what happened to the kid when this 1 year mercenary came in to be OC.
If anyone blew it, it was the coaching staff, specifically Chaney, by not having Voytik even warm up along the sidelines after several poor halves by Pederman.
Voytik saw he was no longer in the plans, and there wasn’t even any hiding it, the 2nd half of the season.
You’ve had a thing for knocking Voytik since Day 1 and it continues even until now.
Very unbecoming for a Naval (Coast Guard) officer.
I don’t supposed that could have possibly hinged around him, could it. Heavens forbid if the kid actually moved himself out of ‘the plans’!
Again, you act like the kid walked on water and that just wasn’t so – he played and moved himself out off the stage.
BTW – when you show me your Commission from the President then we’ll talk about “Conduct Unbecoming” until then keep the person stuff out of this.
If Voytik was as good as some of you think he was, he’d be someone that even a MAC school or someone would want for this year. He seemed like a good kid but come on. It sure doesn’t look like he’s going to end up anywhere “known” for having a D1 football team.
You act like Emel’s point of view is only his, regarding Voytik – I don’t think you give Chad a fair shake – he gave his all to Pitt FB – remember VT and Miami games in 2014?
For you (Reed) to say Voytik “quit” the team MAKES ME SICK.
We each know what we know – I’ll stick with exactly what I have been saying on here since the day CV decided to leave… he didn’t handle the competition at all and left because of it. Interestingly enough I just had a rather in-depth phone conversation on just this subject.
Look – it wasn’t like Voytik had coaches busting down the door for him to come play there before he went public with leaving Pitt- that wasn’t the case at all. Quite the opposite in fact. he left the program first and foremost and still is trying to find a home.
You both can blame the staff if you insist on doing so, and I’ll continue to say that there was a reason the staff stuck with NP for the rest of the season… and that Narduzzi held the door open for CV.
Narduzzi doesn’t suffer players who don’t want to be there and he got a sense of that early on when Voytik was sat down.
Why does the word “quit” bother you so much – anyone who transfers from Pitt or leaves the program literally ‘quits’ the program.
“Quit”
verb: quit; 3rd person present: quits; past tense: quit; past participle: quit; past tense: quitted; past participle: quitted; gerund or present participle: quitting
1.
leave (a place), usually permanently.
2.
archaic
behave in a specified way.
If I used that word for any other player who up and left the program with no clear destination you guys wouldn’t think twice. But Pat Amara quit the team, Chris James quit the team, Mark Myers quit the team, Joe Flacco quit and on and on… Any player who leaves their teammates at Pitt when they go elsewhere quits the team – even guys going to the draft.
I quit things when I was younger and with other some things I stuck it out. It’s a part of life.
You are the ones putting the negative connotation on the phrase, I’m just stating what happened.
Look – obviously we all have strong thoughts on this subject. Dragging this out isn’t going to solve world hunger or make a difference in W&Ls this season so I’ll drop this subject and keep putting up articles on different issues, which BTW there has been a few since this posted and keep moving forward… I suggest you guys do the same. We’ll find other things to argue about.
And it was quite amazing how Tyler ever managed to gain over 1000 yards with such a klutz for a QB. All the time while Chryst was feeding James Connor the ball enough to get almost 1800 yards, and what was it; a record 26 TDs? And Chad is noted on here for achieving a losing record….while the team was handcuffed by perhaps our worst defense ever. Pathetic!
Yeah, Emel. I agree – its time for the blinders to come off!
Wanny, Haywood, Graham, Chryst, PN. Tgere isn’t a single program in the nation…including MICHIGAN that could recruit excellence at the most important position under those circumstances.
If you were the high school coach or father of a top prospect, tell me exactly when you would have steered your player or son to Pitt. Right after Walt got canned? During Wannys reign? After he got fired? After Haywood got fired?
You can wax poetically all you want but here is the cold hard truth. Pitt football was a dumpster fire for a very long time.
What kid wants to be a savior? What parent wants their kid to be a savior? My Savior got tortured then killed for his efforts. The kid from PSU just went thru hell.
Pitt doesn’t need a savior. It needs to do what it is doing now…build a foundation by doing the non sexy things first.
It isn’t glamorous and it doesn’t make headlines, but it does make life easier for everyone in the program.
Our recent history is not good…to be kind…you can’t undo years of neglect and disinterest overnight.
We will attract quality QBs only after we attract quality players at every other position first.