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March 23, 2016

Coach Search 2016

Filed under: Basketball,Coaches,Hire/Fire — Chas @ 7:30 am

So, so weird that this isn’t football related.

Have we got the Miller boys out of our system yet, or is this going to be an ongoing thing?

I don’t know that there is much to say after yesterday’s 15 minute flurry. Neither Sean or Archie were ever going to be interested. Sean is at a basketball school, in a major conference, with tons of resources, easier access to talent, makes big money, etc. Yes, he’s a Pitt alum and local, but he wasn’t coming back.

Archie is waiting for his spot. He had offers/interest from Alabama and others and passed last year. I don’t even know for certain that he would go back to his alma mater of NC State when they get tired of Mark Gottfried (related note, good luck to Cat Barber in the NBA Draft and good riddance).

Okay, now what?

I’m not trying to be contrarian, but can I ask why so many seem to have an almost religious zeal in their faith that AD Scott Barnes will hit an absolute home run with the hire? I like Barnes. (He’s not Steve Pederson.) He gets a lot of the things that you want to see in an AD. He’s absolutely said all the right things. (He’s not Steve Pederson.) I like the odds he will hire a good coach. (He’s not Steve Pederson.)

But why the absolute faith? (HE IS NOT STEVE PEDERSON!!!) He hired Gary Anderson for Utah State’s football job. Great hire. He promoted Tim Duryea to replace the retiring Stew Morrill for Utah State’s basketball. Not a hard decision.

Even Louisville AD, Tom Jurich — considered the gold standard for ADs — hits a clunker. Remember Steve Kragthorpe? The time it can take an AD to go from god to clown is very short.

Barnes has said the stuff about a national search, executive search firm will be used to provide deniability and backd00r access vet candidates and help, and a sop to the fans with use of the phrase “up-tempo style”

Barnes told 93.7 FM, the Pitt radio affiliate, Tuesday that he is looking for a coach who would implement “a fun style” that is “more free flowing,” although he said he is “not married to one system.”

“We want a little more uptempo style … that style of play that connects and you can recruit to and you can win with,” he said. “We need to broaden our perspective on how we recruit. … There are a lot of really good basketball players in the ACC footprint.”

Sorry. Coaching searches — for Pitt and watching everywhere else — is fascinating to me, but also brings out my most cynical side.

Okay, so there are lists out there of candidates. Everyone has a list.

Before I list a few, let me just dismiss Greg Marshall from Wichita State up front. Not happening. He’s not leaving. Alabama couldn’t dump enough money for him. He’s making north of $3 million thanks to the Koch Brothers. He isn’t leaving for anything short of a blue blood job — maybe not even then.

From Gary Parrish at CBS Sports.

Let’s cross Fred Willard off the list, shall we? One good year at Seton Hall does not cover everything else. Not going back to a Willard. Mick Cronin (Cinci). No. Herb Sendek (unemployed, former NC St. and ASU coach, went to Carnegie-Mellon). No. No. No. Greg Kampe (Oakland). He’s 60 years-old. No.

Andy Enfield at USC is mentioned. Would probably be a great hire, but USC can pay him. He just got them up and running. And I don’t think simply being from Shippensburg, PA is much of a lure.

Mike Longeran, George Washington. Knocked Pitt out of NIT in opening round last year. Respected, good X-O coach. Recruiting is a question mark. He climbed from D-III to Vermont to GW. Success all along the way. Not exactly considered a rising star, but a safe pick.

Bryce Drew, Vaplo. The question everyone seems to have about him is if he’s interested in moving to a power conference job. He’s turned down others. Otherwise a very good choice.

Ed Cooley. He’s recruited talent to Providence. Providence! Definitely an excellent recruiting coach. He plays up-tempo. Little concerned about the coaching part of the job.

Dan Hurley, Rhode Island. I like this one a bit, so I’m going to quote directly.

Yes, Hurley just passed on Rutgers to remain at Rhode Island. But the Pittsburgh job is way better than the Rutgers job, and Hurley is smart enough to know that. He has a nice team returning; it would be difficult to walk away from URI right now. But the Pitt job is the type of job that would make Hurley at least look, and he’s a sensible option worth consideration.

Colin Dunlap had his list. He mentions Larry Krystkowiak from Utah. That would absolutely be a home run hire. But his contract with Utah has 7 years on it and he gets $2.4 million/year. I’m having trouble seeing him leaving for Pitt.

Ben Jacobson at Northern Iowa. He’s been there 10 years as head coach but is only 45. Can he recruit? No idea. Is he up-tempo? Not in the least. This UNI team was 5th slowest out of 351 teams this past year. Right behind Wisconsin.

Kevin Keatts, UNC-Wilmington. His name is getting a lot of traction among fans. He checks a lot of boxes, with recruiting and style of play. Two concerns. Only been a head coach for two years. He is from the Rick Pitino coaching tree. Admittedly not as bad as being from the John Calipari coaching tree, but outside of Billy Donovan its mediocre at best. The other is the stripper scandal at Louisville. Keatts was on staff then. His name has not been mentioned — and I want to stress that there is no indication he had any involvement. Yet the investigations are ongoing. So, there is risk there.





You can tell how little many on this board know about college hoops when all I read on this board is Suize M. Brandon Knight and Ben Howland. Proof that most on this board only watch Pitt when it comes to college hoops.
Ziese listed a great list of candidates that Pitt hopes to talk too.
Some really good names on the list that I think everyone would agree would be great hires. Now will Pitt land one. We ll have to wait and see.

Comment by Milobloom 03.23.16 @ 9:10 pm

@ Justinian. I agree with your comments on Enfield. But I will say this. If Barnes did land him that would be incredible work. Also would be interesting to see how his style would work at Pittt. Would take a bit to get it working I would think and I don’t think fans would have the patience.

Comment by Milobloom 03.23.16 @ 9:14 pm

ESPN BBALL Homepage Top Headlines still has :

Arizona coach Miller: ‘No Interest’ in Pitt job.

only 6 stories are Top Headline and that was yesterday’s news.

ESPN loves to stick to Pitt. I really despise them and never watch their PC laden programs or games anymore. F em

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:17 pm

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:17 pm

This is less than 48 hours before the Sweet 16 starts and that is still a Top Headline.

ESPN loves to stick it to Pitt. Don’t know what that is all about, I know the national sports media gives the short shrift to all teams named Pittsburgh.

But ESPN has a certain dislike for Pitt. Always did. Must be all the Syracuse creeps that work for them. And us owning them in bball and football the last 15 years.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:20 pm

Harvard has recruited 3 of the top 100. ////// that’s not a typo///
Havahd. Tommy Amaker has it all, a great track record, A Duke Degree. Yeah, I know he is an Afican American.

Amaker has turned down high profile jobs that offer much more than his Ivy League salary.

Amaker would be a dream come true for Pitt/// he can coach, recruit, win and he understands high academic standards.

It would take more than just money to pry him away from Havahd.

Comment by Isnore 03.23.16 @ 9:21 pm

Oops African American.

Comment by Isnore 03.23.16 @ 9:22 pm

And why would ESPN hate Pitt? That’s just stupid. As if Pitt is thought highly enough to be hated. That would be like Pitt fans hating Dusquene. Sure we could hate them but not much there to hate. .

Comment by Milobloom 03.23.16 @ 9:23 pm

Amaker also intresting. Though recruiting for Ivy leagues very different than school like Pitt. But a salesman is a salesman and if he’s good at should be successful wherever he’s at.

Comment by Milobloom 03.23.16 @ 9:28 pm

Hint: ESPN is located in Connecticut….

Comment by Jackagain 03.23.16 @ 9:30 pm

Hmmmm. I had thought about trying to swipe one of Sean Miller’s guys. Book Richardson has been with him all the way back to Xavier and is an AAU/recruiting legend (which has its positives and negatives – cake in trunk).

I just don’t see Barnes going with someone without some HC experience (a la Enfield).

Also @milobloom, you don’t have to be a basketball genius to be a Pitt alumni/fan and enjoy talking about it. Gheez.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 03.23.16 @ 9:38 pm

Texas Blatherites, Praying for you Tex Panther and Dallas Mike and Teds and others. Bad Tornado watch and storms. It is bad here and sirens galore.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.23.16 @ 9:43 pm

~ milo

Thx for calling me stupid bro.

Btw I grew up hating Duquesne, maybe you aren’t old to enough to know. So I guess that would make you stupid, right.

At that time Pitt played 2nd fiddle to Duquesne in bball and that continued in the Pgh. sports media all thru the 1970’s.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:44 pm

@cnorwoodaz. Very true and I take your point. Its fun talk. But I jumped on hoping to talk some serious candidates and I see those three names. If it ends up one of them we might as well just jump right to the football posts.

Comment by Milobloom 03.23.16 @ 9:47 pm

Another reason why ESPN might hate Pitt.

Pitt’s leaving the BigEast was the final nail in the coffin of the ESPN created BigEast Basketball which was a huge money maker for them and really helped them turn ESPN into ESPN Mulitples(ESPN2, ESPN-Classic, ESPN-News). Now while Pitt and Syracuse left at the same time. ESPN was certainly
not going to hold any grudges against Syracuse since a lot of their on-air and behind the scenes people are Cuse grads.

So Pitt is it ! imo

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:52 pm

BTW, a B. Knight hire would be a bunt single (or a strikeout), not a homerun hire. Certainly Barnes can see that….

Stay safe UPitt….and fellow Texas Blatherites.

Comment by Jackagain 03.23.16 @ 9:52 pm

And yes I know the BigEast conference is still around.

I think it airs on Fox Sports 2 or something.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:55 pm

Emel – late 60’s early 70’s Duquesne was better than Pitt most years and fun to watch with Nelson twins, Jarrett Durham, etc. Went to the Steel Bowl each year and cheered for both Pittsburgh teams.

Comment by AnotherClancyRebound 03.23.16 @ 9:56 pm

Tornado Season in that part of the Country.

Stay safe guys.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 9:58 pm

Yep, with that name you gotta remember how fierce the Pitt-Duquesne rivalry was in the 1970’s. When Pitt was trying to wrestle the rivalry away from Duquesne who had pretty much owned it for a couple decades.

I played against many of those guys in HS. And during the summer around Allegheny County.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 10:01 pm

See my earlier Post…

link to facebook.com

Comment by PittofDreams 03.23.16 @ 10:02 pm

Upitt, Tx Panther, et al,
Stay safe Pitt brothers.

H2P!

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:05 pm

Sam Clancy & Sammie Ellis vs Bruce Atkins & Doug Arnold was a good matchup.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 10:06 pm

Sorry, espn does hate Pitt. No reason for that to stay up for so long. None!

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:06 pm

Forget Amaker. Before he was head coach at Harvard he had been head coach at Seton Hall and Michigan for seven or eight years total. he went to one in NCAA tournament in that time also three and 3 NIT appearances. He was fired by Michigan for poor performance. That’s not what we need.

Comment by Oakland comet 03.23.16 @ 10:15 pm

Would love to see that kind of local competition again with Duquesne. Would also likely mean a pickup in local talent.

Comment by AnotherClancyRebound 03.23.16 @ 10:21 pm

~panther94
Obviously it’s meant to put Pitt in a bad light.

I mean who can’t see that. You’d have to be pretty dense not to see that.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 10:22 pm

Rich Walsh trying to blame his sources… Total BS. So, if he blames his sources when he’s wrong, shouldn’t he give them all the credit when he’s right? Just a jerk.

H2P

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:24 pm

Emel,
Of course it’s meant to put Pitt in a bad light. What i should have said is No good reason for that to stay up for so long. None!

H2P

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:29 pm

Signing off with hopes of good news soon.

H
2
P

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:38 pm

lol,

They finally moved it off of Top Headlines.
So who’s the ESPN mole on here. lol

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 10:42 pm

Apropos

Comment by panther94 03.23.16 @ 10:45 pm

Wondering if the ACC scares prospective coaches. It is very clicky. Refs bias no doubt.

Emel, it’s not that ESPM hates us, it’s just we have become less relevent the last 4-5 years. Syracuse can get away with being average for a period of time. They have a much better background (alot more years of being good) than PITT.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.23.16 @ 11:03 pm

Well OPG you might be right.

But you got to admit there are far many more sports journalists and broadcasters who went to Syracuse than to Pitt.

I don’t think Pitt even has a broadcasting journalism department. At least we didn’t back when I was there.

Don’t worry we’ll find a good coach, we have the moolah to pay for a first rate one.

Comment by Emel 03.23.16 @ 11:15 pm

Thanks Guys! Made it through the storms and no tornado touching down dangerously close.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.23.16 @ 11:42 pm

Hey Emel, buddy,
Maybe The reason there was no “Broadcasting Department” when you were at Pitt is because electricity hadn’t been invented yet!
We’re mostly old farts on here I think!!!!

Comment by pittman4ever 03.23.16 @ 11:49 pm

For those on the Bryce Drew train, they are a very religious family. Bryce I read at one point or another requires players to attend church. To quote my man John Cougar Mellencamp…”Let the Bible Belt come and save soul”. That works in Indiana, bad fit here. Sorry.

Danny Hurley’s name keeps getting tossed around. I think his brother is the better coach and is a fish outta water at ASU. I’ve been wrong before, and will always admit it. Bobby, not Danny is the Hurley we should target. Knows the conference. Buffalo’s basketball history is putrid. He was there 2 yrs and won 2 MAC East titles and a tourney berth. Why Danny instead of Bobby? I actually hated those early 90’s Duke teams. But mark my words Bobby Hurley is going to win anywhere and everywhere he coaches. Danny’s a below .500 coach. Wagner and Rhode Island not easy places to win, but neither is Buffalo.

Bobby Hurley needs a serious look….

Comment by Pap76 03.24.16 @ 12:09 am

” let the Bible Belt come and save my soul”. Sorry Coug. Didn’t mean to misquote you. Big fan. “Hold on to 16 as long as you can, changes come around real soon, make us women and men”

-Little diddy about Jack and Diane…

Comment by Pap76 03.24.16 @ 12:15 am

Pap Why do I imagine you 5 Coors Lights in sitting in your living room jamming to John Cougar Mellecamp in your underwear and a sweatshirt and crocs! All while eating Pizza. Nothing wrong at all! Actually sounds like a great night.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.24.16 @ 1:14 am

UPitt-

No bull shit I had a 4 cut chicken and broccoli pie delivered. Maybe not so much the dancing…but absolutely went on YouTube and had to hear ” Jack and Diane” Hahahaha.

Comment by Pap76 03.24.16 @ 1:35 am

If my memory serves me right, I don’t think we knew much during the FB hiring process the brought coach Narduzzi to Pitt.

I’m going to sit back and patiently wait for the “splash” with this BB hiring process. Chancellor Patrick G is a splash kind of guy and AD Barnes seems to fit nicely as well.

Plus, Artie Rowell was a pretty good Center at Pitt and has a good head on his shoulders. So his input should be invaluable in this process – wait, wrong sport – never mind. JK

Comment by Erie Express 03.24.16 @ 5:46 am

FWIW, if interested, Chris Mack followed by Andy Enfeld and Ed Cooley top my list. They are all accomplished.

But I remember not being too enthralled at the time when Howland and then Dixon were hired … but don’t remember being negative about the Willard hiring – so what do I know.

Comment by wbb 03.24.16 @ 6:05 am

B. Hurley, E Cooley, and C Mack all seem like decent choices to me. A. Enfield may not want to leave the west coast and a weaker conference to compete in. Welcome back Emel and Spirit!

Comment by PittPT 03.24.16 @ 6:16 am

@ Emel..yeah we know you are an old fart who has not much else to do but post on here all day…I too remember those days with Duquesne though after 30 years of stinking I surely don’t hate Duquesne which is what my post was
..to think an entire national TV network has it out for Pitt is stupid thinking ..so if it fits. Also very egotistical which maybe fits you better.

Chas should be happy your back since now his post count will now double.

Comment by milobloom 03.24.16 @ 7:04 am

Whoever the coach is, I hope like Narduzzi it is someone who contacts Pitt and passionately wants the job and has the confidence to be able to recruit and compete here.

Comment by PittPT 03.24.16 @ 8:03 am

I’m exercising one of my freedom’s of choice – skipping over ALL milobloom postings.

It’s kind of like walking through a cow pasture…

Comment by Erie Express 03.24.16 @ 9:07 am

Go suck an egg Milo….

Comment by Jackagain 03.24.16 @ 1:56 pm

I heard somewhere that pitt was pursuing seth greenberg for the head coaching vacancy?

Comment by PittPanFan 03.24.16 @ 2:39 pm

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