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March 22, 2016

Over the last five years there have been 45 coaching changes at the power conferences, Big East and a handful of other programs that have a high profile/top-25 team (New Mexico, VCU, UNLV).

I thought it might be useful to take a look at how the vacancies were filled.

2011 – 10 changes: 4 Power Moves; 3 Mid-Majors; 2 Assistant Coaches; 1 Ex-Coach/TV analyst

2012 – 8 changes: 3 Power Moves; 4 Mid-Majors; 1 Assistant Coach

2013 – 6 changes: 2 Power Moves; 1 Mid-Majors; 3 Assistant Coaches

2014 – 10 changes: 2 Power Moves; 3 Mid-Majors; 3 Assistant Coaches; 2 Ex-Coaches/TV Analysts

2015 – 11 changes: 2 Power Moves; 4 Mid-Majors; 2 Assistant Coaches; 2 Ex-Coaches/TV Analsyts; 1 NBA Front Office/Alum

Power Moves (hiring another coach directly from a power conference or major program): 13

To —– Coach  ——— From —  Year

  1. Arkansas — Mike Anderson — Missouri — 2011
  2. Missouri  — Frank Haith — Miami — 2011
  3. Maryland — Mark Turgeon — Texas A&M — 2011
  4. Oklahoma — Lon Kruger — UNLV — 2011
  5. South Carolina — Frank Martin — Kansas State — 2012
  6. Kansas State — Bruce Weber — Illinois — 2012
  7. TCU — Trent Johnson — LSU — 2012
  8. UCLA — Steve Alford — New Mexico — 2013
  9. Texas Tech — Tubby Smith — Minnesota — 2013
  10. California — Cuonzo Martin — Tennessee — 2014
  11. Virginia Tech — Buzz Williams — Marquette — 2014
  12. Texas — Shaka Smart — VCU — 2015
  13. Tennessee — Rick Barnes — Texas — 2015

From this list, five of the coaches were pushed/jumped or just fired that same year from their previous school (Haith, Weber, Johnson, Smith and Barnes).

When you can pull it off, it tends to work pretty well (Duh). 9 of the 15 schools that went this route seem happy at the moment. There’s just no guarantee on immediate returns.

Mid-Major Hires, hiring a head coach from a mid-major program: 15

To —– Coach  ——— From —  Year

  1. Miami — Jim Larranaga — George Mason — 2011
  2. Georgia Tech — Brian Gregory — Dayton — 2011
  3. Texas A&M — Billy Kennedy — Murray St. — 2011
  4. Penn State — Pat Chambers — Boston U. — 2012
  5. LSU — Johnny Jones — North Texas — 2012
  6. Nebraska — Tim Miles — Colorado St. — 2012
  7. Illinois — John Groce — Ohio — 2012
  8. USC — Andy Enfield — FGCU — 2013
  9. Missouri — Kim Anderson — Central Missouri (DII) — 2014
  10. Oregon St. — Wayne Tinkle — Montana — 2014
  11. Boston College — Jim Christian — Ohio — 2014
  12. Wake Forest — Danny Manning — Tulsa — 2014
  13. Arizona St. — Bob Hurley — Buffalo — 2015
  14. Florida — Michael White — Louisiana Tech — 2015
  15. Iowa St. — Steve Prohm — Murray St. — 2015

With 6 of of the 15 hired in last two years, the jury is out on a bunch (though, good early returns on Tinkle and Prohm). Overall, I put it at a bit over 50% hit for the programs that went this way.

Assistants (Promoted from within, hired from another program, NBA): 11

To —– Coach  ——— From —  Year

  1. Utah — Larry Kyrstkowiak — NBA, NJ Nets — 2011
  2. UNLV — David Rice — BYU — 2011
  3. UConn — Kevin Ollie — UConn — 2012
  4. Minnesota — Richard Pitino — Louisville — 2013
  5. Rutgers — Eddie Jordan — NBA, LA Lakers — 2013
  6. New Mexico — Craig Neal — New Mexico — 2013
  7. Marquette — Steve Wojcechowski — Duke — 2014
  8. Northwestern — Chris Collins — Duke — 2014
  9. Butler — Chris Holtman — Butler — 2014
  10. VCU — Will Wade —  VCU —  2015
  11. DePaul — Dave Leitao — Tulsa — 2015

Some wild range here. Utah, UConn and VCU really, really nailed it. UNLV, Minnesota, and Rutgers — ugh. Butler looks solid. DePaul, well they were already at the bottom so they couldn’t go much lower. Seems like the boom or bust route.

Now the Ex-Coaches/TV Analysts. These are the guys who were fired or something else from their last job and did TV for at least a year (i.e., rehabbing their image) before getting back into coaching. 5

To —– Coach  ——— From —  Year

  1. Mark Gottfried — NC State — 2011
  2. Auburn — Bruce Pearl — 2014
  3. Washington St. — Ernie Kent — 2014
  4. Alabama — Avery Johnson — 2015
  5. Mississippi St. — Ben Howland — 2015

Mildly surprised that this looks better than I thought it would (owing in no small part to my distaste for Gottfried). Probably helped by the fact that all of these teams were below .500 (or well below) when brought in. Still no reason to give Seth Greenberg the time of day, but very respectable.

Finally there is one other case. Other. Really it is an alumni hire.

  1. St. John’s — Chris Mullin — Sacramento Kings front office — 2015

Recruiting seems fine there, but wins…

Props to schools like Mizzou that make the list twice. Oddly so did Ohio, as they were raided twice — and that is going so well for Illinois and BC. Murray State however, has churned out two good ones.

The other tricky thing on this list is where the school was at the time of the hiring. A lot of these programs were not in good shape. Pitt for all the issues, and concerns for the immediate future is a better than average program coming off a better than average season (in terms of all power conference teams, not the standards we want at Pitt).

Power Move Hire

  • UCLA
  • Texas
  • Kansas State

Mid-Major Hire

  • Florida
  • Iowa State
  • Texas A&M

Assistant Hire

  • UNLV
  • UConn
  • New Mexico
  • Marquette
  • Butler
  • VCU

Those appear to be the only programs that were in reasonably decent shape when they hired a new coach.

I don’t see Pitt going the Assistant Coach hiring route. Only Marquette went away from promoting from within or  in the case of UNLV, hiring an assistant with ties to the program (alum, David Rice).

Recruiting has been good for the Golden Eagles, but they bottomed out at 13-19 in his first year. I like Brandin Knight, but he is still too much of an unknown quantity. At the very least, it is time for him to work as an assistant elsewhere.

This essentially tracks the early “who could Pitt look to as its next coach” articles. Obviously, Sean Miller at Arizona will be approached. And as an alum, he’ll take the call. I’ll be extremely surprised if he jumps.

After that, it’s the mid-major head coaching list.





haha

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 7:32 pm

I say Pitino’s son

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 7:32 pm

That wouldn’t work, da Burg is a Blood city.

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 7:33 pm

Im just kidding on little ricky

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 7:34 pm

Luke Walton!!! Coaches for the Clippers and has Stephen Curry and LA Lakers history. Dad is legend. Make it happen! Up and comer for sure.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 7:35 pm

That’s good cause the Pitino’s have a certain stench to them. 🙂

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 7:39 pm

Just glanced over the previous thread.

A Thank You To:

pap76
BigB
PetePitt73

Hope you guys are doing well ! As I hope everyone has been good little Pitt Panthers in my absence.

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 7:42 pm

UPitt has been his usual naughty self. You did miss out on Mona…JR’s biggest fan.

Comment by TX Panther 03.22.16 @ 7:52 pm

gc, Paul Zeise stated definatively that Pitt has made no offers. I believe the Sean Miller had to make a statement after the reports of a night-time flight from Tuscon to the Allegheny County Airport and all the goofy Sean sightings

Comment by Justinian 03.22.16 @ 8:01 pm

Mona – OMG

JR’s teacher and #1 Fan. Imagine that conflict with me Emel.

She saw nothing wrong with JR.

Then one day she was fired up and was dropping F bombs on anyone in her way. Oye Vey!

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 8:03 pm

Tx Panther – You haven’t been exactly a Catholic School Boy! Haha.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 8:04 pm

Well yea upitt is easily corruptible being in south florida all the time. Probably even knows little Marco. lol

Zeise reporting Pitt has offered the job to no one as of yet. Which could be accurate if they were indeed caught unawares that Dixon was leaving until yesterday. Surely Barnes and Gallagher would have a sit down and discuss what they want in a HC and what the budget is to acquire one, etc. etc. And then identify potential targets.

Mona…used to date a Mona….and she was well..you know.

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 8:09 pm

I presented at a High School for a thing for future Construction kids and looked up and it was Rubio’s high school. Haha…

Emel – I play Breakers for free. you in? 4 weeks? All weekend?

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 8:11 pm

KeyboardKev, I like your suggestion of Sienna Miller. They would get a hot coach. Too bad she doesn’t like Pittsburgh.

Comment by Justinian 03.22.16 @ 8:23 pm

Steve Miller might be a good fit if not for…

link to youtube.com

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 8:31 pm

Got a severely sprained ankle I sprained out in Tuscon over the weekend.

So I’m on the DL.

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 8:33 pm

Sorry to hear that Emel…prayers….

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 8:44 pm

Emel – You puss. Don’t drink 1/3 of a Glennfiddich Bottle and chase A stripper named Star into the Champagne room!

By tomorrow we have to have info on candidates.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 8:46 pm

Bryce Drew’s Valpo team looked good swatting away St. Mary’s tonight.

Comment by PetePitt73 03.22.16 @ 9:02 pm

Did Valpo have a good center and a quick PG?

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 9:20 pm

It wasn’t Glennfiddich….it was Bookers.

I don’t drink 80 proof wus liquor. ha

The rest of it was fairly accurate.

Comment by Emel 03.22.16 @ 9:21 pm

Upitt – you in construction biz? Who with?

Comment by Pitt it Is 03.22.16 @ 9:34 pm

Pitt it Is – Baker Concrete

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 9:40 pm

Who you with Buddy?

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 9:41 pm

Ahhhhh baker. We do a lot w you. Skanska here

Comment by Pitt it Is 03.22.16 @ 9:44 pm

Emel,
Heard of SOC? Oakland was not Blood.

Comment by panther94 03.22.16 @ 9:45 pm

Great Group… Miami Science Museum…

I see you are starting to self perform.

Be careful on New Marriott in Nashville with SPS.

What Region you in? Email if you don’t mind. mehalovichm@bakerconcrete.com

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 9:47 pm

Cbs just out w top 10 Pitt coaching candidates. My fave is Andy Enfield So Cal who’s wife is stunning. The others:m
Archie Miller
Dan Hurley – URI
Ed Cooley – Providence
Mike Cronin – Cinncy. Hate this one
Brice Drew – Valpo
Herb Sendek – NO
Mike Lonergan – GW
Greg Kempe – Oakland ….interesting!
Kevin Willard – Setin Hall

My prediction… Today was a huge smokescreen. Sean Miller takes the job !!

Comment by Dan 72 03.22.16 @ 9:47 pm

Dan since you are rating the replacement candidates on the hotness of their wife, what about the others listed. Also may I recommend you do the due diligence and send links so the rest of us Blatherites can pick our favorite…candidate that is.

Comment by Pitt it Is 03.22.16 @ 9:59 pm

Jeff Capel just seen leaving Fuel and Fuddle with Barnes and Narduzzi and Emel.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 10:00 pm

Bryce Drew. Get it done.

Btw, this f*ck Richy Walsh…he has brought undue attention to us and not in a good way. For all we know, Barnes didn’t even contact Sean and now we basically get a rejection letter from an alumnus that becomes national news. That doesn’t make us look help our image at all to prospective head coaches.

H2P!

Comment by panther94 03.22.16 @ 10:01 pm

There was a special on CBS awhile ago (maybe in summer) of how happy Miller was at AZ. But then there is the lure of kolbasi and stuffed cabbage and pierogies and Rolling Rock and Iron City and …

Comment by Frank MD 03.22.16 @ 10:02 pm

You know what I’m sayin’!

Comment by panther94 03.22.16 @ 10:03 pm

Time is running out. link to insidestl.com

Comment by panther94 03.22.16 @ 10:04 pm

That would be funny Dan if he exonerates Rich Walsh…lol.

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 10:04 pm

@Frank MD,
Snow? Sleet? Freezing temps? Donton activities?

Comment by panther94 03.22.16 @ 10:06 pm

Not to go full circle in a twighlight zone kinda way but………..

Bo Ryan? Cheated on wife, they probably want a fresh start out of Madison and you know this second cousin weird relationship we have with Wisconsin. Hmmmmm

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 10:07 pm

Slogball PartII? No to Bo…

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 10:11 pm

Jack – That old bastard won like a banshee though!

And had studs.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 10:12 pm

I have complete faith in Scott Barnes. Right now, I love the guy. And I’m am ready to bury the hatchet over the demise of Pitt Stadium, its deteriorating condition caused by years of neglect and bad management by chancellors and ADs alike.

The Pete needs to be the home of winning Pitt basketball. Seasons where we don’t assume we’ll be bounded out of the NCAA tournament early.

How Barnes got rid of Dixon is amazing really when you think about it. He played the situation just right.

And I don’t believe Barnes is one bit upset.

Let’s shot for Ollie. UConn has exceeded expectations. He’s got to have a price.

Comment by Tony77019 03.22.16 @ 10:17 pm

Pitt it is… I am 65 and have no idea how to send a link. The order was posted on CBS sports. Go on their web site and you will find it.

Comment by Dan 72 03.22.16 @ 10:17 pm

shoot, shot what the hell

Comment by Tony77019 03.22.16 @ 10:18 pm

TVax:

I never implied anyone was an idiot.

Comment by Tony77019 03.22.16 @ 10:22 pm

LOL UPitt…but Barnes wants excitement at the Pete!

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.16 @ 10:28 pm

I mentioned it last night and…crickets. Seriously guys Bobby Hurley. This guy is as Tempe, Arizona as Frank Sinatra is. Get him back east where he belongs. He knows the conference and was born to be a coach. Like the Miller boys his dad is a legendary coach and he’s a former point guard. You don’t think he was born to coach?

And come on, it wouldn’t be great to pluck ASU’s coach after he only has a year on the job?

Comment by Pap76 03.22.16 @ 10:40 pm

Pap76 – I like Hurly and the NYC connections. It will be interesting to see it play out.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.22.16 @ 10:48 pm

Hey, maybe, just maybe, our next coach’s current team is still playing (Sweet 16 or NIT) and Barnes is forced to wait it out?
Or maybe it’s ……..Johnny Miller : >)

Comment by pittman4ever 03.22.16 @ 11:38 pm

Lots of threads and posts and I know me and Dan had a laugh about “Wittle Wichie Walsh” on here, but anyone else seriously pissed at this dude? I know wbb said something to the effect of “poor Richie Walsh my ass”. Right on!!

Even being made an ass of on a national level now. Deadspin is ripping him. My God how can you be so wrong? KDKA is to blame also. He should have had to reveal source(s) before tweeting shit.

I know he’s a Pitt grad and meant no harm. But whether it’s he’s incompetent or overly eager, he embarrassed himself, his employer, and most importantly to us, Pitt and this early stage coaching search. Not the 1st time he has fucked up a story or had a bad source. He should be fired.

Bobby Hurley guys. He’s officially my horse in this race…

Comment by Pap76 03.23.16 @ 12:36 am

Regarding KDKA’s Walsh…

The accepted standard is “2” INDEPENDENT Unnamed Sources confirming information before a reporter goes with a story…

… or a SINGLE Unnamed Source who is known to be in position to have DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the facts and who has an established track record of being right.

Based on what went down with Walsh’s report on Sean Miller… it seems pretty obvious that he did NOT follow the “standard.”

Much less likely that a Source he trusts and is close to the story intentionally set out to mislead him.

But only Walsh knows for sure.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.23.16 @ 4:23 am

Or Walsh’s “Boss” at KDKA… likely the Sports Director or News Director.

It is there responsibility to make it a practice of ensuring Walsh has his Trusted Sources lined up before going public with a story… especially one as a HIGH PROFILE as Pitt’s search for Jamie Dixon’s replacement.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.23.16 @ 4:30 am

Not a good week so far for KDKA and Pitt related stories.

This search will take a little time – some candidates may still be in a tournament and I’m sure AD Barnes is in communication with Chancellor Patrick G to make what would appear to be the best choice.

This HC hopefully will be sitting on the “front porch” for a long time “rocking” the Pete.

I don’t believe an assistant from a major program will be the choice, unless it’s Paules from the Ohio State or Chapel from Duke.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 03.23.16 @ 4:51 am

If they are still coaching in the tourny then I’m not sure who that would be unless it’s a Duke or UNC asst. One name not mentioned much is Tommy Ammaker from Harvard. Was asst at Duke then kinda struggled at Michigan before having some great teams at Harvard. Perhaps he’d like another shot at the big time???

Comment by John 03.23.16 @ 5:51 am

In this day and age where news travel fast, it really doesn’t matter who gets the news first. One local source reports and story and within a few minutes, national sources are reporting it.

For Christ’s sake … Walsh reported it and within 10 minutes, national CBS sports was printing denials.

So what good is ‘Getting it First’ when within minutes, all of your competitors have it … and people really don’t give a shit who got it first. But people DO give a shit if you got it right!

Comment by wbb 03.23.16 @ 5:57 am

as a follow-up to my post immediate above .. if you have a 12 hour and want to know more about yesterday, job offers and search firms … read this.

link to sportsblogs.post-gazette.com

Comment by wbb 03.23.16 @ 6:12 am

meant 1/2 hour .. not 12

Comment by wbb 03.23.16 @ 6:12 am

link to cbssports.com

Link to CBS story

Comment by TVax 03.23.16 @ 6:32 am

@Tony – was kidding about Barnes outwitting us comment. He is in a position to know more than any of us(including me), so he had better outwit us.

Like you, I think Barnes is the right guy in position to make this happen best for Pitt and as I said previously, we will know by how this plays out over the next two weeks. If it is any longer or there are any misfires, then my confidence drops.

Comment by TVax 03.23.16 @ 6:46 am

See, there was no way Sean Miller would have been in Pittsburgh yesterday. He was too busy standing in line so he could vote. Maybe today.

Comment by KeyboardKev 03.23.16 @ 7:04 am

TVax, there are some good, viable candidates on your CBS link … I wouldn’t have a problem with most of them.

And yes Emel … your boy Sendek is included on the list

Comment by wbb 03.23.16 @ 8:16 am

@wbb, excellent point.

Not like the 70’s “trust CBS news to get the story first”, when stations could be a half hour, an hour, even a day ahead of everyone else.

Now, story breaks, 20 people just on who I follow on Twitter have already posted it.

No one gives a rat’s ass who got it first. You’re already reading the story and could care less where it came from.

Until…….it’s wrong.

Comment by Dan 03.23.16 @ 8:48 am

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