The disadvantages of playing in the Military Bowl are obvious.
Considered a second tier bowl, by all standards.
Daytime, weekday game: Monday, December 28 at 2:30pm.
Being passed over by the ACC tier one bowl partners for teams with lesser records — two of whom Pitt beat head-to-head.
Opponent that is not from one of the other four major conferences.
An opponent that is hardly a rare occurence for Pitt in Navy.
Playing virtual road game in the bowl by facing Navy in Annapolis.
Now, the upsides:
It’s not Birmingham.
Not a hard roadtrip. Four hour drive from Pittsburgh, plus the Pitt Athletic Department is doing everything it can to make this easy with charter buses that are not exactly exorbitant.
It’s not going to El Paso for the Sun Bowl.
Playing a top-25 opponent instead of, say, Indiana. So, it is actually a good match-up.
Pitt was 5-1 on the road this year.
It’s not Shreveport.
Most of the outrage is the disrespect factor of the higher ranked bowls passing over Pitt for teams that did not have as good a record and/or played a bad non-con to pad their numbers (NC State).
I get that. If the bowls were a meritocracy. They aren’t. They are about TV and tickets. The one ESPN owns or are so out there (Sun Bowl) are about the TV eyeballs. The others are focused on ticket sales.
David Teel has a great piece on the bowl selections for the ACC (albeit with the VT angle).
The league’s bowls beyond the six controlled by the College Football Playoff are three-pronged. The Russell Athletic has the first choice of ACC teams after the CFP, followed by four Tier One games (Belk, Pinstripe, Sun and either Music City or TaxSlayer) and three Tier Two (Independence, Military and Quick Lane).
This is the second season under this arrangement, and with Clemson (13-0) making a CFP semifinal and Florida State (10-2) qualifying for the Peach Bowl, the Russell Athletic took North Carolina (11-2). That left Pittsburgh (8-4), Miami (8-4), Duke (7-5), North Carolina State (7-5), Louisville (7-5) and Tech.
The Pinstripe in New York wanted Duke and its Wall Street alums. The Music City in Nashville wanted Louisville. The Sun in El Paso, Texas was good with Miami. Done, done and done.
The Belk wanted the Hokies, but the ACC does not allow a Tier One bowl to select a 6-6 team instead of an 8-4 squad, and with Pitt still on the board, Virginia Tech was unavailable. So the Belk chose N.C. State.
Again. Local ticket sales. Between alum in Charlotte, and the reasonable drive within the state. Kind of easy call.
If you’re reading this that none of the Tier One bowls wanted Pitt, you’re correct. The Panthers had a terrific year under new coach Pat Narduzzi but don’t travel particularly well — their final two home games, against Louisville and Miami, drew announced crowds of 42,119 and 40,126 to 68,400-seat Heinz Field.
With the Tier One bowls slotted, Tech and Pitt were left for the Military and Independence. The Hokies defeated Cincinnati in last year’s Military, and the ACC and its bowl partners frown upon sequels.
But Military Bowl officials welcomed the idea of matching Beamer against homestanding Navy — the Hokies defeated the Midshipmen in 1987 for the first of Beamer’s 237 victories at his alma mater. The ACC, almost certainly on behalf of Beamer and Tech, declined.
Navy (9-2 entering Saturday’s game against Army) dusted Tulsa 44-21 two weeks ago and would have been a more formidable opponent than the Golden Hurricane. So Shreveport plays to Beamer’s pragmatic and sentimental sides.
Yes, Pitt could have ended up falling even further. Such that there was more than just a touch of sarcasm in Narduzzi’s comment.
“It’s a rocky road when you talk bowls and all the politics involved,” Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi said. “I’m just glad they didn’t leave us out. I’d have been disappointed if we didn’t get a bowl selection.”
There wasn’t a lot of subtlety to AD Scott Barnes thoughts on the process.
Still, the Pinstripe Bowl opted for Duke (7-5) over Pitt.
“We were very pleased with our communications there,” Barnes said. “Why they chose Duke? You’re going to need to ask them.”
Barnes, in his first year at Pitt, added that the ACC’s bowl selection process was “less prescribed and more subjective” than previous conferences he had worked in. He admitted that there was likely a stigma attached to Pitt that its fans don’t travel well. To that end, Barnes has made a concerted effort to try to get fans to make the four-hour drive to Annapolis for this game.
There’s a chicken-egg argument to make with fanbase travel. Pitt has a reputation for not being a particularly good traveling fanbase. Especially for Bowls. Still, the last several bowls haven’t been hotspots. Detroit, Birmingham x 3, El Paso. Even the Belk Bowl in 2009 came on the heels of bitter disappointment with Pitt’s finish. Still, the reputation was there even before that point.
The best way to look at this game is as an opportunity. Navy is a quality opponent. The game is in reasonable distance of Pittsburgh and plenty of alum on the East Coast. The ticket allocation for Pitt is under 7,500.
6-8 of us sitting in sec 127 with you. Hope we can connect. I’m really looking forward to a great game in a great venue against a ranked team.
1st tier 1st shmear no interest in a bowl game against unranked crap team like indiana the day after xmas.
H2P!!!!
if memory serves, he didn’t have Pitt in the field in pre-season
PSU = Tax Slayer = 33rd
WVU = Cactus = 20th
Obviously it is very early and against weak competition, but it is encouraging. Especially the three point shot.
That was one of the reasons I predicted 6-6 or 7-5 with some lucky breaks.
Pleasantly surprised to be wrong on that one.
The amazing thing is that Narduzzi won 8 games after losing Conner.
I think Lett is having a positive impact on Maia’s inside game.
I’m not buying it. If anything, HCPN is spinning this game positively to his team and the “jobbing” will be pin up material in the locker room.
This team will come prepared, focused and motivated to win. Remember 35 years ago when the Pitt D lead by Hugh Green stuff the Heisman Trophy winner from South Carolina in their bowl game?
Let ESPN and the other sports networks hype up the Navy run attack all they want. We’ve got answers for the run, we’ve got half time adjustments that work and we’ve got our own potent run attack (when used).
HTP!
I would argue an EQUAL trade… and my HIGH REGARD for Conner is well documented.
Who would have thunk it?
Run the ball 40+ times with Jaymar leading the way spells VICTORY.
The formula for win # 9. My Christmas present for OC Chaney.
Just got 127A tickets. Let me know when and where to meet and if anyone needs any transportation.
# 20 Gonzaga @ 5-2 plays tonight against unranked Montana who is 3-3.
Unranked Pitt @ 6-1 is idle tonight.
The voters must not have seen the first half of Pitt vs Gonzaga game in Oquinawa…but the Purdue game was viewed by many, I’m sure. Hmmm…
Agree Tomas, I am going to the Bowl Game and probably would not have been able to go anywhere else. Maybe NYC, but Indiana, c’mon.
We are playing a worthy foe in a worthy bowl.
Our Offense has been able to run through Navy’s D and that won’t change we should score almost every time we get the ball. Navy is a flashy pick and they are playing at home so they are favored.
I will be there and would not have IF it had been elsewhere.
I’m trying to talk my son and two grandsons into a road trip. Maybe take the train ride down.
For us it is about a four hour drive. I’m thinking about the exodus of the Florida snow birds on Rt 95 right after Christmas.
Stay by the Harbor in Baltimore after the Steelers Sunday night, then to Annapolis the next day.
Another Christmas present for the guys.
Aiken did not look great in the game where he scored 22 points
did not play like a D1 recruit
I’d rather play Navy on the 28th than crappy Indiana on the 26th anyway.
Former Pitt offensive lineman Ruben Brown highlighted a College Football Hall of Fame class Tuesday that included former Oklahoma All-America linebacker and two-time Butkus Award winner Brian Bosworth.
Bosworth helped the Sooners win a national title in 1985 but failed a drug test that got him suspended from a bowl game.
Others inducted were Trev Alberts (Nebraska), Bob Breunig (Arizona State), Sean Brewer (Millsaps), Wes Chandler (Florida), Thom Gatewood (Notre Dame), Dick Jauron (Yale), Clinton Jones (Michigan State), Lincoln Kennedy (Washington), Michael Payton (Marshall), Art Still (Kentucky), Zach Thomas (Texas Tech), Heisman Trophy winner Rick Williams (Texas) and the late Rob Lytle (Michigan). The coaches were Jim Tressel, who led Ohio State to a national title in 2002, and 76-year-old Bill Snyder, who has won 193 games in 24 seasons with Kansas State.
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PITTSBURGH – In Arizona’s 27-3 victory over St. Louis on Sunday, Larry Fitzgerald became the youngest player in NFL history to reach 1,000 career receptions.
The former Pitt star became just the 11th player in NFL history with 1,000 career receptions, and in the process he also went over 1,000 receiving yards this season – the seventh time in his career achieving that milestone.
WATCH: Larry Fitzgerald’s 1,000th career reception
“The personal stuff is all good, but I’ve done all the personal stuff, the Pro Bowls,” Fitzgerald said. “That stuff is great but when your team is having success – the only thing I need, personally for me, to feel like my career is fulfilled is a championship. Each win gets us a step closer, and that’s what it’s about.”
The eight-time Pro Bowler is arguably having the best season of his 12 year career with 91 receptions for 1,047 yards and seven touchdowns. The Cardinals are 10-2 this season and have the NFC’s second best record.
Fitzgerald’s career has Canton written all over it. He currently has 1,000 receptions for 13,198 yards and 96 touchdowns.
In Arizona’s postseason run to the Super Bowl in 2008, he shattered NFL postseason records with 30 receptions for 546 receiving yards and seven touchdowns.
In just two years at Pitt, Fitzgerald etched his name into the record book, setting the benchmark for receiving yards in a season (1,672 in 2003), touchdown receptions in a season (22 in 2003) and career receiving touchdowns (34).
Fitzgerald and the Cardinals host Minnesota this Thursday night at 8:25 p.m. in a primetime NFC showdown.
“Navy went into this season trying to get Reynolds the FBS rushing touchdown record, previously held by former Wisconsin Badger Montee Ball, who finished his career with 77 rushing TDs.”
Unfortunately, one of those TDs punctuated a Reynolds’ ORCHESTRATED COMEBACK against Pitt a couple of years back.
Over 5,100 bowl tickets sold! Thank you Panther Nation! Keep it going and let’s sellout this allotment. #PittRoadTrip #H2P
UPitt/ EMel … Why not make the trip. Steelers Ratbirds
Sunday night. Great Casino 20 minutes from Annapolis!
Really expect Duzz and staff to out coach Navy. Get up on em early and make Navy pass to beat you.
Never will forget Wanny’s strategy in 2010 of making Pitt’s D
linemen wear catcher’s shin guards in practice. Pitt’s defense
spent the entire game looking down for cut blocks and lost 48-45 in OT.
It’s not a travesty, Frank. He was never going to win – and I’m a Navy fan. An outstanding young man and QB – but that’s just the truth of it.
Beat Army!