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January 27, 2015

Sorry about the paucity of posts. Been a bit under the weather for the last week. Not enough to call off sick, but enough to be low on energy and not nearly enough of a clear head for coherent thoughts to make it to a post.

In the meantime, there have been several more verbals, one that will wait until signing day. And a flip away from Pitt.

Guess I’ll get the flip of TE Nick Bowers from Pitt to Penn State. Sucks to lose a talented TE, even more so to PSU. And with the WR corps thinned out a bit, not having additional depth at TE is a bit of a worry. Still, Pitt has good depth at TE/FB, and that’s not a particularly big loss. Only reason it seems bigger is where he flipped to, not that he flipped.

Meanwhile John Petrishen, a 3-star safety out of Central Catholic is down to Pitt, Penn State and Virginia. He seems legitimately unsure, and won’t make the decision until or just about NLI Day on Wednesday, February 4.

Now for the recruits who have verbaled over the last few days.

Anthony McKee, an Outside Linebacker from Ohio was another huge pick-up. A 3- to 4-star recruit with offers from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Michigan St., WVU and (heh) Wisconsin. More defensive help. More speed.

Another Outside Linebacker. This time from New Jersey, Saleem Brightwell is a consensus 3-star recruit. His decision came down to Pitt or Miami.

For some immediate help, Pitt gained a JUCO DE, Allen Edwards. Assuming Ejuan Price can come back healthy (big if) for 2014, Pitt may actually have some depth at the DE spot.

Then, yesterday the flip from Penn to Pitt by QB Ben DiNucci. The 2- to 3-star ranked QB has scared a lot of other programs with an unorthodox throwing style. Pitt has little interest in changing it.

DiNucci admitted he went on his visit to Pitt with the idea that he was still going to Penn.

But the visit changed things. Still, DiNucci wasn’t sure about his decision when he woke up Monday. Then, Narduzzi and offensive coordinator Jim Chaney called while he was on his way to school. DiNucci came home in the afternoon to talk things over with his parents.

“I can’t even begin to tell you what it was like having so many people on Twitter, in the community, in school telling me to go here, go there, don’t do this, don’t do that, don’t talk to this person and that person,” DiNucci said. “I’m just glad it’s over with and I think I made the right choice.”

DiNucci was the third-leading passer in WPIAL history with 7,619 yards, but major colleges didn’t recruit him much. He has heard knocks about his throwing motion, but said, “The Pitt coaches have told me they’re not going to change my motion at all.”

Justin noted on twitter a week or so back (sorry, working from memory), the college game is much more forgiving of unorthodox throwing motions than in the pros. Given, DiNucci was headed to Penn, he seems to be well aware that his future is not really about going to the NFL.

A week to go and there is a chance for a whirlwind recruiting finish. May have to take a “sick” day next Wednesday.

UPDATE: Whirlwind confirmed. Minutes after finally getting the post up, another verbal. Gentry Ivery, a WR from Texas has verbaled to Pitt.





Pat-signal just activated!!

Comment by John 01.27.15 @ 11:55 am

Ivery 4.77 forty-yard dash time?
Hope that is a mistake

Comment by Gas 01.27.15 @ 12:08 pm

6 defensive vs 2 offensive recruits thus far. He is indeed the Anti-Chryst.

PSU tweeting that it maintains control of PA, but they have been recruiting Miller for one year and Bower for half a year; new staff had had 1 week.

Next year will be more indicative

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 12:29 pm

Ivery ran on his high school track team and the 4 x 100 time was 41.67 seconds. He is no 4.77 forty. I saw a time on him at 4.42, 6’1″ 205lbs. Couldn’t locate an offer sheet. His brother is a qb(?).

link to maxpreps.com

Comment by dhuffdaddy 01.27.15 @ 12:30 pm

@@@@@@

Don’t mind the flips. Players become loyal and close to
coaches. When the coaches bolt players have the right
to change schools and should attend a school where they
feel most comfortable and wanted.

Is it true PC did not meet with the team before running
to the Dairy State???? Nevertheless glad the new staff is in
place and recruiting 2015 style.

Comment by JR 01.27.15 @ 12:41 pm

I take satisfaction in the fact that PSU feels they have to respond to Pitt coaches Twitter activity. That tells me they know Pitt is once again a legit threat on the recruiting trail.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.27.15 @ 12:45 pm

His time is 4.4. His team ran primarily his junior year so he didn’t have any film till his senior year. His coach says he is the best WR he has ever coached in his 24 years of coaching. TCU wanted this kid badly. We’re getting a hidden gem. #Pitt Is It!

Comment by Panther Fan in Hoopieland 01.27.15 @ 12:45 pm

Don’t forget, the best thing about all of these
recruits, is that they are going to be coached
by this group of coaches!!

H2P

Comment by Dan 01.27.15 @ 12:54 pm

Not a mistake on Ivery. Maybe just not his ABSOLUTE Best.

He might be a little faster than 4.77, but not much.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 12:55 pm

No way is Ivery 4.4 or even close.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 12:56 pm

Aaron Donald ran 4.68.
Not to sound like Joe D

Comment by Gas 01.27.15 @ 1:01 pm

This kid is from my kid’s soon to be high school. Awesome! Legacy High.

Ivery will be a Pitt legacy once he’s done.

Can’t say I ever saw him play. But players are bigger, faster and stronger here in the Lone Star state. 🙂

Comment by TX Panther 01.27.15 @ 1:02 pm

“No way is Ivery 4.4 or even close.”

Same wording that Joe D used for Challingsworth a year and a half ago.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 1:05 pm

“The Pitt coaches have told me they’re not going to change my motion at all.”

– Ben DiNucci

So there you go.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:07 pm

Posted this on the previous thread in an effort to answer Reed’s question. Did not see that Chas has started this one. So, for what it is worth, here it is again.

@Reed
I wish that I could be there. Just too far away and (in theory) I work that day.

Here is what I see as the big difference that the Duzz brings. I grew up in a very WASPish family. Strong work ethic. We all knew our jobs and did them. Conversations at dinner were rather limited. No arguing. Sort of Ozzie and Harriet.

I had many friends who were Italians. When I went to their houses, it was like a different world. Noisy. People arguing. Lots of emotions. Like a night at the Corleones.

I think that Paul Chryst (who I liked) brought to Pitt an atmosphere like my family’s. Let’s get the job done. If something gets screwed up, we will do it better next time.

I am guessing that the Duzz is going to bring much more emotion, excitement, tension, sometimes conflict. The practices and the locker room and the sidelines during games. Just like the players at MSU looked to him to come down to the field in the second half and get them focused, pumped, pissed and ready to kick ass.

I can’t wait to read your comments from practices.

H2Passion

Comment by pmdH2P 01.27.15 @ 1:01 pm

Comment by pmdH2P 01.27.15 @ 1:08 pm

wbb… thought you knew your stuff when it comes to sizing up talent?

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:11 pm

I just mainly bring information; we all have our opinions but I never claimed expertise.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 1:14 pm

Unless Petrishen is a package deal to bring Hamlin in next year, I’m hoping he goes elsewhere. I only watched him play one time and I was not impressed at all. It could have been an off game – but I expect kids getting major D1 offers to be impact players week in and week out in HS. Maybe the week I saw was the only off week he had. Not intending to slam the kid, as I don’t know anything else about him. Just seems like maybe we could find a better use of the scholarship esp since we got Stocker.

Comment by JJ 01.27.15 @ 1:16 pm

Chas – Post another recruiting story. It seems to lead to commitments!

Hope you feel better.

Comment by CalvinHobbes 01.27.15 @ 1:16 pm

I respect that wbb.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:28 pm

But at the risk of being accused of being Joe D in disguise… let’s put Gentry Ivery in proper perspective for those who think he is a BURNER.

Ivery’s BEST 200 Meter time is more than a SECOND Slower than Adonis Jennings… and Jennings’ is NOT a 4.4 Guy.

Jennings’ BEST 100 in High School was 10.74. That is FAST. But 4.4 Guys run a bit better than that. 10.6 is more like it.

At the RISK of again being accused of being Joe D in disguise… it doesn’t look like Ivery ran the 100. 4-4 Guys run the 100 in High School.

Now, I’m not saying the Kid can’t be a STANDOUT at the Receiver Position… as Joe D probably would say simply because he’s not that fast.

The NFL Combine invites REALLY Good Receivers all the time who end up running 4.6 something or even 4.7.

Maybe Ivery will be one of those. We can only hope.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:39 pm

don’t see what the big deal is with dinucci’s throwing motion. not nfl caliber but i’ve seen worse in college. reminds me of vince young’s actually. he did more than a little ok at texas.

Comment by scott 01.27.15 @ 1:40 pm

What does surprise me is to see some people KNOCKING John Petrishen.

Don’t know how tough the Kid is or how hard he hits.

But when he has the Ball in his hands, he’s a PRETTY FLUID Athlete who PASSES UP a lot of people on the way to the end zone.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:44 pm

To me DiNucci is nearly a Dead Ringer for Kliff Kingsbury.

Same height and weight in High School… and a pretty SIMILAR throwing motion.

Kingsbury too got criticized for the way he threw the Ball but put up some GAUDY Numbers in the Spread Offense for Texas Tech.

And yes, Kingsbury did not translate well to the NFL.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:49 pm

@Obi_Eboh3: Received an offer from Pitt this morning! #GoPanthers

@ChrisDokish: Texas CB Obi Eboh is one of the best CBs in the ’16 class. Glad to see Pitt looking far and wide for playmakers.

@DemetricDWarren: #Pitt offers 2016 Stud DB Carlos Becker (Osceola HS, FL) @beckercarlos5 @VarsityPreps @SouthRecruit1

@ChrisDokish: Pitt is offering elite players all over.

@ChrisDokish: I would be surprised if Pitt didn’t end up with at least a top 25 class next year, and very possibly top 20.

Comment by NickC 01.27.15 @ 1:55 pm

The one thing that does bother me about DiNucci is that Chryst did not go after him.

That does say something.

Could be that Chryst just didn’t see DiNucci as a Pocket Quarterback… which he obviously was headed toward having recruited Bertke.

By signing DiNucci, it might be that Narduzzi and Chaney are open to running the Spread at some point down the Road.

Personally, I like the Offense the way it is.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 1:56 pm

I read that Ivery had improved from 4.77 early in his career to a recent 4.42.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 1:56 pm

Jim… Senior Track season is coming up. That will end the debate.

However, to me… Ivery just doesn’t look anything close to 4.4. on tape.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.27.15 @ 2:05 pm

Could be the truth of his speed is somewhere in the middle, PoD.

If he’s a 4.55 guy, that is often times good enough. AB on the Steelers is one of the best WR in the NFL, and he is not a burner … until he gets the football in his hands. And, he has a knack for getting open.

I agree with you about 4.77 – especially if it is 4.77 lacking quickness, elusiveness and sharp route running. But, I did read the quote from his coach that was alluded to above about him being the best WR he’d coached in his career.

We’ll have to wait and see, just like for all of them.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 2:15 pm

PittofDreams, I like the offense, but I’m open to using and adapting to the abilities of the talent you have on the team. I don’t feel any compelling reason to be locked into a particular style. If Chad Voytik is good running some keepers on zone reads, they should take advantage of his abilities. The same goes for Berke and DiNucci. Tailor what you run, to what they do well.

Comment by Justinian 01.27.15 @ 2:25 pm

I could care less whether this kid runs a 4.7 or a 4.4.

The more important question is; can this kid catch the ball and can he get open.

But he does add another WR to replace the dearly departed Adonnis.

Who mustn’t have been to enamored with Paulie’s terrible handling of him.

Welcome to Pitt Ivery Gentry !

(this staff could recruit more kids in 2 months than Paulie and the Cheeseheads could in 12 months, and legit D1 recruits to boot)

Comment by Emel 01.27.15 @ 2:45 pm

I know highlights are highlights but they showed elusiveness and quickness, not to mention that he ran away from a few in the open field, and had a few kick returns … all this on a 5A level.

But I’m not naive .. there is a reason that he’s a 2-star without any offers. Thus, it will be a pleasant surprise to see him contribute, you never know.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 3:05 pm

What a difference a week makes. Now ESPN has Ben D listed as a 3*. Wasn’t it Ben Who? a week ago?

Comment by Complit 01.27.15 @ 3:06 pm

Chryst went after a large handful of QBs .. Shurmur, Malzone and his own nephew immediately come to mind. He did get Hornibrook, a promising 3-star but no guarantee.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 3:12 pm

Many of these ratings were pre-senior season. I would think someone who voted state POY in top division, threw for > 4000 yards, and wnet to state title game may warrant another star.

DaVon Hamilton was a 3-star DT when he committed to PItt. He made 1st team All-Ohio at top level this year and now has flipped to OSU, who did not offer him in the summer.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 3:16 pm

Maybe there’s more to the story on Ivery, as there often is with late recruits. According to Jerry DiPaolo’s article on the PG site, he led Texas District 14 in receptions (42), yardage (586), & TD (9). He did not yet have any other FBS offers, but Oklahoma, Utah St, SDSU & Memphis were getting interested but had largely filled their classes already. His team was primarily a running team during his junior year, and this part is weird – Ivery was out taking his lifeguard test when college coaches visited during spring practices last year. I don’t know what to make of that.

But, his coach, Chris Melson, swears by him. He said, @I don’t know how you are going to find many recruits better than this kid.” He emailed new Pitt Asst Tim Salem as he was transitioning from Illinois to Pitt and told him he needed to see Ivery, and that he needed a home. Melson compares him to another of his receivers who is now at TCU – Josh Doctson – who led TCU in receptions last season. Melson said Ivery is better. He can do more things. He’s faster, stronger and more elusive. He’s like a tailback after the catch.

We know some coaches might say anything to help a recruit, but I don’t see how it benefits a coach to not be truthful with schools. But, it could be that he just plain overvalues Ivery. But, there aren’t a lot of 4 star WR left who don’t have big time commitments. Seems to me Pitt needed a WR and took a shot on a guy who is another diamond in the rough. We’ll see how it plays out.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 3:18 pm

JR – Chryst met with the players en masse each day during the week of his being hired and once that day to say goodbye.

“It was good, I think, for me to have that time because I thought I was also able to, like I said, spend some time with the players at Pitt and keep them abreast of the situation,” Mr. Chryst said.

The delay put Mr. Chryst in the awkward situation of publicly representing Pitt — coaching the Panthers’ practices and attending a news conference in advance of their Jan. 2 bowl game — but also being linked to the Wisconsin job.

Mr. Chryst said he tried to be as honest as he could with his Pitt players about the developing situation, and he received congratulatory texts from some Wednesday evening.

“I was able to be really candid and up front with them,” Mr. Chryst said. “I think it was helpful for me looking back that I was able to talk to coach Alvarez early in it, so I could tell the players exactly what was happening.”

Comment by Reed 01.27.15 @ 3:27 pm

Per @PittGuru, Ivery’s 4.77 was from 3 years ago, and the 4.42 was this year. I still say he’s likely somewhere in the middle of the two – hopefully closer to the 4.42.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 3:38 pm

Pretty strong highlight film. Breaks a lot of tackles. Looks like really good running instincts. Looks like he has another gear when he needs it. Not afraid to block. Catches some tough balls in traffic. What’s not to like?

Comment by gc 01.27.15 @ 3:48 pm

These guys are recruiting nationally, that takes money. Thank you Mr. Gallagher. To find these guys it also takes experience and want to, thank you Coach Narduzzi.

Comment by gc 01.27.15 @ 3:56 pm

here’s tweet for you in the match-up of the crotch grabbers vs the ball shrinkers

Jake Steinberg @Steiny31
Super Bowl will have ZERO 5-star recruits starting. But there are 20 starters with a 2 star or lower rating. Don’t let a system define you.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 3:57 pm

Since when are we allowed to recruit in Texas.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.27.15 @ 4:02 pm

Emel re: Paulie and the Cheeseheads

There is probably a band with that name that played the Decade or better yet, The Electric Banana.

Comment by Joe Lawrence 01.27.15 @ 4:09 pm

One thing Ivery has going for him is size. You don’t find many HS WRs with 4.5ish speed who are over 6-foot tall and weigh over 200 pounds.

And highlight tapes are tough to judge, but Ivery does seem to show the ability kick it into high gear on some of those plays.

Go Pitt.

Comment by MajorMajors 01.27.15 @ 4:22 pm

I like the Texas recruiting.We are in Fraud’s backyard

Comment by BigB 01.27.15 @ 4:39 pm

Nothing wrong with a possession reciever who has a history of breaking tackles….oh yeah. …he gets open too..

Comment by Dan 72 01.27.15 @ 5:07 pm

Texas, Florida, Ohio, Jersey, JUCOs…hit them all. Build relationships for the future.

Comment by notrocketscience 01.27.15 @ 5:35 pm

DaVon Hamilton was a 3-star DT when he committed to PItt. He made 1st team All-Ohio at top level this year and now has flipped to OSU, who did not offer him in the summer.

Comment by wbb 01.27.15 @ 3:16 pm

Clearly ‘gaming’ the system

Ohio U<Pitt<Kentucky(in his mind)<OhioFake

Comment by Emel 01.27.15 @ 5:41 pm

@Joe…oh yea…the Electric Banana on Baum/Bigelow.

Some crazy times in that place.

Although I preferred the Decade with the Iron City House Rockers.

Comment by Emel 01.27.15 @ 5:45 pm

Pitt can NOT be VT’s first ACC win of the season and certainly NOT Buzz William’s first EVER ACC win.

No way No how…..do whatever Jamie to see that this does NOT happen !!!

Comment by Emel 01.27.15 @ 5:47 pm

You’re literally in my back yard. Legacy High is right down the street from me. Go Ivery.

Comment by TX Panther 01.27.15 @ 5:48 pm

Two weeks ago we we’re just hoping that Narduzzi could simply bring in a recruit. Presently we are reduced to dissecting the 40 times and validity of the highlight films of those recruits who actually are commiting to Pitt at positions of need.

I get it, it is human nature to participate in such activities but the evolution of expectations pertaining to this coaching staff continues to go through it’s own metamorphosis on a daily basis it seems.

Just take the time to appreciate this newly assembled staff and complement them on their ongoing efforts from time to time. We are lucky to have them IMO.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.27.15 @ 6:06 pm

Another addition to staff coming…per football scoop: Pittsburgh: The University of Pittsburgh is looking for an on-field defensive grad assistant with prior FBS experience working with defensive line or linebackers. Update> Pitt is no longer accepting resumes for this position. Thank you for your overwhelming interest.

Comment by markp 01.27.15 @ 6:12 pm

Good article on Ivery in the Trib:

link to triblive.com

Comment by Jackagain 01.27.15 @ 6:30 pm

Hmmm I think there’s a basketball game tonight. Any coverage?

Comment by :Tony77019 01.27.15 @ 6:41 pm

Hmmm I think there’s a basketball game tonight. Any coverage?

Comment by :Tony77019 01.27.15 @ 6:41 pm

ESPNU @ 7:00

Comment by PITT-cocks Fan 01.27.15 @ 6:46 pm

Talking about Ivery’s speed, or lack thereof….if I remember correctly Mike Shanahan was no burner, but if you have good hands and have some FB smarts, you can still be a great player. I loved Shanahan, and still think he would have been great in black and gold as a possession receiver/TE.

Comment by PittPT 01.27.15 @ 7:00 pm

Watched the Ivery tape. He is thick and strong. Looks like a RB.
One thing we should all be happy about is that class will not be a waste and hurt the team down the road. There will actually be upper class players in four years.

Comment by notrocketscience 01.27.15 @ 7:20 pm

PittPT, Shanahan also had the advantage of being 6’4″. Good receivers come in many forms, that’s for sure.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.27.15 @ 7:40 pm

If it actually is true that the 4.42 is recent and the 4.77 was from 3 years ago … then he’s plenty fast. Let’s not decide he’s slow because of a time that may no longer be relevant.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 7:47 pm

The Vanderbilt rape verdict came down with both FB players being found guilty. They both face decades in prison.

Franklinstein moved on for a reason. Interesting he chose to hide in Creepy Valley…

Comment by Erie Express 01.27.15 @ 7:48 pm

EE – He fit right into the culture there.

Comment by Pittastic 01.27.15 @ 7:50 pm

Pitt hoops is hard to watch right now. Beating VT is not asking a lot. Down 5 at the break to this team is embarrassing. They really need to turn this around in the. 2nd half.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 7:52 pm

Artis is becoming a really good shooter.

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 8:26 pm

I love this quote about Ivory…

“Melson explained Legacy was primarily a running team in 2013. Then when college coaches visited last year during spring practice, Ivery was out taking his lifeguard certification test, Melson said”

link to triblive.com

Comment by Reed 01.27.15 @ 8:34 pm

Horrible loss. Maybe Buzz will give the “Butcher, the Baker, the Candlestick Maker” post-game speech. Ugh!

Comment by Jim 01.27.15 @ 9:23 pm

Losses to Clemson and VT… Can it get any worse?

Comment by Pittastic 01.28.15 @ 5:47 am

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