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January 4, 2015

I have a confession to make, with a question to go with it.

Was anyone else laughing when the buzzer went off at the end of the bowl game? Honest to God, I was and my wife couldn’t understand it (and I wasn’t even drinking or taking any Windowpane acid either).  When we went up 31-6 she turned to me and said “I guess you didn’t expect this to happen, did you?”  My reply was that there was no way the game was going to end nicely.  Not that I thought we’d lose, I didn’t, but I was sure there would be drama at the end.

When the Houston QB hit those two long completions in a row, 43 yards and 32 yards down to our 7 yard line at the 4:00 mark I was resigned to it.  Then, when Nick Grigsby grabbed his own balls instead of the football on that second on-side kick I knew we were sunk.  Silly women, she couldn’t believe what happened but we PITT fans weren’t that surprised were we?  Reading the 600+ comments in the game thread I can see that that is true.  There was much anger and some disgust but really, no one was saying ‘I can’t believe this happened‘ because deep in our hearts we knew it could.

That’s why I’m not even parsing the game that was played.  It doesn’t matter who did or didn’t do whatever whenever.  IT JUST WAS.  As PITT fans we ‘get’ that.

And perhaps that was Fate’s way of saying “Boys, it is time for a completely clean slate for 2015“.  The Chancellorship changed, the old AD was shown the door,  the head coaching job turned over and I believe all the staff coaches will be gone this week.  Perhaps in the long run, and especially given our recent four year history, this kick in the nuts loss is the perfect way to make us sit back and clear our own minds as far as being a PITT football fan goes.

I’ve decided not to have any expectations whatsoever with Narduzzi and the new people he’ll bring in.  I firmly believe we have a 50/50 chance of being ‘Same Old PITT” as we do with winning lots of football games.  I’ll take things day to day and will walk the “Show me!” line as the off season goes by and the games begin.  I look at PITT football with tabula rasa; a blank slate to imprint with facts and opinions as things unfold and not before.

Anyway, I had a great time writing and conversing with everyone on here during the ramp up to and then the playing of 2014’s games.  We’ll have just as much fun, hopefully more, starting today for the new 2015 season.

Chin up boys and HTP!





***didn’t even mention***

Comment by BostonsCommon 01.06.15 @ 2:42 pm

Guys – about recruiting. It really all depends if PITT actually opens up the checkbook for the recruiting budget like the Chancellor has said he would. Even though PITT said we did that after the 2012 season it wasn’t nearly enough.

In 2014 class we had only two kids from south of the Mason-Dixon line and the other recruits who weren’t in our own area we recruits Chryst had contact with before in the IL-MI area. In Chryst’s first real class we had one kid from Hawai’i and a couple from the NE but again, not one from any southern states.

I know PITT fans don’t like to do this but compare that to what PSU brought in over their last two classes; recruits from: AL (3), CA (2), FL (3), GA (2), NC and Mississippi. They can do that because they allocate the big $$$ to get their staff coaches out to where the real talent is.

PITT hasn’t been able to do that and thus most of our recruits have been local… and you see what we have on roster. What was Chryst’s stance on recruiting a couple of years ago? “We are going to get the best players with a days drive of Pittsburgh” or something like that – and that was because we couldn’t afford to fly around to woo top shelf recruits.

If we are going to truly get serious about developing a winning program this the 1st priority has to be for the Staff to have ample recruiting money.

Comment by Reed 01.06.15 @ 2:51 pm

@Reed

I know that this is a stupid question. But, what requires big money for recruiting? To have more people doing it (e.g., a national recruiting coordinator and a staff, in addition to coaches)? Or, a bigger travel budget to get the coaches out and around more quickly (e.g., private jets)?

I assume that there are limits on what you can spend to “entertain” a recruit and his family. Dinners in fancy restaurants, movies, etc.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 01.06.15 @ 3:04 pm

‘(e.g., private jets)’…

@Comment by pmdH2P 01.06.15 @ 3:04 pm

That’s certainly part of it… PSU sends Franklin back and forth on recruiting trips and speaking engagements on a private jet…

I can assure you Inoke ain’t flying around on a private jet.

Comment by BostonsCommon 01.06.15 @ 3:11 pm

Franklin also has a helicopter at his disposal. A few times this year, he he traveled to 2 WPIAL football games the same night .. with the big splash of the copter landing near the field, ending up at State College at the end of the night.

I woud also assume that he took a few trips to the eastern part of PA also

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 3:21 pm

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 3:26 pm

Boston – Inoke had seen Taleni play HS ball a few years back then he actually recruited Taleni while Inoke was travelling back to HI on a family vacation.

pmdHTP – that is a good question. Prior to 2101 there was a limit of how many program staff members were allowed to recruit. I believe that has been lifted in the last two years. I don’t believe there is any limit as to what you can do for the recruit on a recruiting visit, legally that is.

I’ll look into the details but I do know that a donor can give money or assets directly to a school for recruiting purposes – such as leasing out a private jet to a school to use during the recruiting periods. That is as long as none of it touches the recruit himself, i.e. the prospective recruit can’t get free transportation on the private jet.

Comment by Reed 01.06.15 @ 3:33 pm

We can talk recruiting philosophies all day…

Some of it comes back to budget, but really it’s more about WHO is actually doing the recruiting.

Truth is… there are enough premium players in PA, OH, NJ, MD, and northern VA to build a football program if you want to do the whole ‘gas tank recruiting strategy’… You just have to go up against OSU, PSU, Michigan, UVA, VPI, UNC, and to a lesser extent WVU, UL, and Kentuky to get them.

OR

You can pay to fly your staff down to GA, AL, FL, and TX to recruit.. And there’s plenty of talent down there after the SEC and Big 12 fills out their rosters… But you still have to recruiters there that can actually convince a kid to go to school 1,200 miles away from his family and friends, and that it’s a good idea, he’s gonna have fun, get to play early, shot at the NFL, and all that crap… and if you’re not getting the premium talent, you better have a staff full of guys that can develop the raw materials you can get.

IMO it doesn’t matter if you’re going after premium local talent, or southern scraps… You’d better spending on your staff… coaches that can develop talent AND recruit command premium salaries.

IMO Staff Budget more important than Recruiting Budget.

Comment by BostonsCommon 01.06.15 @ 3:58 pm

I think Florida, which has been good to Pitt in the past, is a very necessary recruiting area, especially since it’s in the ACC footprint. However, not so sure that Texas, Georgia, etc would be worth our while.

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 4:03 pm

Or you can fill out your staff with incompetent greenhorn boobs like Inoke, House, and Haering and wonder why the defense is so far behind the offense across the board… recuiting, player development, and overall talent and performance.

Comment by BostonsCommon 01.06.15 @ 4:06 pm

I am guessing that for every recruit (and his family) who is impressed by Franklin’s arrival by helicopter, there are at least as many who think that he is an ego-maniacal clown.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 01.06.15 @ 4:25 pm

Surprised Franklin doesn’t parachute it holding a banner with the recruit’s name on it.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.06.15 @ 4:29 pm

darn, no leaks and no rumors… seems a good sign that Coach Duzz runs a tight ship…

..wonder if they will position for big statements and interviews and announce staff together?? Seems they have been pretty good positioning the press releases and public marketing.

Exciting thing will be if Pitt leadership follows through with big $ increase… to hear about top assistant staff, facility improvements, and recruiting $ is perhaps one of the most exciting things of all…

… particularly if it gets boosters and donors to open up wallets as well!

Comment by Pittscript 01.06.15 @ 4:33 pm

yeah to copter thing is impressive in terms of demonstrating the $ they have and how efficient he wants to be…

… but it seems over the top in a lot of ways too… particularly if he literally flys in an people see this…. don’t know… just seems “its all about me” with Franklinstein…

Comment by Pittscript 01.06.15 @ 4:35 pm

Multi-millionaire coaches flying in private jets and helicopters on behalf of non-profit organizations, while the players can’t get pizza money. Something dramatically wrong with this picture.

Comment by gc 01.06.15 @ 4:42 pm

@gc – no all is right with the world – players are in training and shouldn’t be eating pizza!

Comment by Complit 01.06.15 @ 4:47 pm

Here’s my guess, which is worth nothing but for fun:

OC/QB Tim Beck
WR Don Treadwell
RB Dan Roushar
OL/TE Mark Staten

DC Chuck Bullough
DL Tim Daust
DE Nick Siatras
LB Rob Harley
DB Paris Johnson

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 4:47 pm

no leaks and no rumors concerning assistants worries me. the clock is ticking.. even the mighty houston cougars have made splashes with their hires..

Comment by goalie44 01.06.15 @ 4:49 pm

@Comment by gc 01.06.15 @ 4:42 pm

I feel ya..

And it just highlights the fact that nothing has changed up there in terms of crazed, lunatic, fanatic, culture.

They can go on and on about oversight committees, and rule changes, and infraction and rule committees…

Nothing has changed

… In fact, all that bullshit was put in place to make sure that nothing changed.

Comment by BostonsCommon 01.06.15 @ 4:50 pm

@goalie44 personally, I’m not worried at this point. Honestly. We know at least couple people from MSU have been offered, and we know he’s working the recruits. If we’re sitting here on saturday and we don’t have the names of the OC and DC then I think some concern will be in order.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 4:57 pm

I can also definitely see this:

DC Tim Daust
DL Nick Siatras
LB Rob Harley
DB Paris Johnson

which would allow them to use the extra coach on the offensive side the ball, which is probably a better use of coaching spots. You get spots 10 including the head coach.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 5:02 pm

You guys talking about no leaks. Who leaked the info about Narduzzi becoming the coach?

Comment by Bj 01.06.15 @ 5:19 pm

Richie Walsh – who poignantly enough just tweeted that Narduzzi is presently at the football facilities interviewing candidates and will likely have his staff completed by weeks ends.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 5:22 pm

If that is correct, who gave Richie the info?

Comment by Bj 01.06.15 @ 5:25 pm

PittHW — there had better be a coach whose primary responsibility is Special Teams. Or . . . . . deja vu, deja vu.

Comment by PetePitt73 01.06.15 @ 5:43 pm

Rotheram to play in Medal of Honour Bowl (I never heard of it either)

Clemmings to play in Senior Bowl, and is No. 1 OT n Dane Bowler’s board (I never heard of him either)

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 6:24 pm

make that Dane Brugler … (still never heard of him)

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 6:28 pm

Please wake me up, when they announce the new Pitt football coaches.

Comment by Justinian 01.06.15 @ 6:37 pm

@pittWH… thanks for making the prediction! some of the position coaches I am not familiar with…

… any reason some of these guys stick out for you?

Comment by Pittscript 01.06.15 @ 6:41 pm

haha yeah we’ll definitely need a special teams coordinator. Daust is the DL and Special team Coordinator at Syrcause so he’d do.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 6:42 pm

Still don’t understand why we would want anyone from Syracuse. It is the last team we beat repeatedly.

Hope Clemmings is a #1, it would get his picture on the wall.

Comment by gc 01.06.15 @ 6:48 pm

PSU DC Shoop to interview with LSU. Maybe Franklin should share his helicopter more

Comment by wbb 01.06.15 @ 7:35 pm

I do think Daust is coming, hoping he’s not the DC hire though.

Comment by Bj 01.06.15 @ 7:37 pm

Reed, what is your opinion of Avonte Maddox?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 01.06.15 @ 8:17 pm

PittScript, here’s why each person of there:

OC/QB Tim Beck – From Youngstown, graduated the same year, but from a different school as Narduzzi, now-unemployed former OC at Nebraska, when MSU played Nebraska Narduzzi said his offense was the hardest to prepare for. Downside: was paid $700k per year.

WR Don Treadwell – former OC under Dantonio at Cincy and MSU, turned disastrously failed MAC head coach, turned position coach at Kent St this year.

RB Dan Roushar – Former MSU OC turned NFL Rb coach

OL/TE Mark Staten – Current OL coach at MSU, rumors still sound like he might be interested in coming aboard.

DC Chuck Bullough current DC at Syracse, actually pretty good at his job, MSU alum from a family with dozens of MSU LBs including his nephew now, mutual admiration between he and Narduzzi

DL Tim Daust cureent AHC and DL coach at Syracuse – good recruiter, young and hungry, has started following Narduzzi and several Pitt bloggers like Chris Dokish on twitter.

DE Nick Siatras recruiting coordinator and DL coach at Ball State, tOSU alum, grad assistant at Cincy and MSU under Narduzzi, reportedly a good recruiter

LB Rob Harley – former D2 DC and MSU grad assistant at MSU for LBs, current LB assistant coach at FIU,

DB Paris Johnson former Miami OH DB, NFL draft pick, brief NFL career, 8 years as cop, current Grad Assistant under for DBs at MSU. This is purely a guess. MSU’s current DB coach Harlon Barnett is awesome and was just promoted to CO-DC with LB coach Tressell, I just picked him because the DB play is one of the key’s to Narduzzi’s system so he’ll probably want someone familiar with his DB style of play, but Barnett has been DB coach for 8 years so there aren’t really any assistant DB coaches to pick from.

I’m sure I got all of this wrong but it’s fun to speculate.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 9:01 pm

is* there. yikes.

Comment by PittHW 01.06.15 @ 9:03 pm

thank you @pittHW

Also, here is a breaking link on the Whisky side on Rudolph and Bostad. link to badgerofhonor.com

Comment by Pittscript 01.06.15 @ 9:18 pm

@pittHW

definitely fun to speculate at this point given the CIA type security on the current activity…! lol.

Beck is intriguing and when you read his biography it is really impressive.

The Syracuse coaches and Siatras got good press and pretty well connected into the MSU tradition on defense.

Bullough got a lot of press on the MSU side as a top outside candidate to replace Narduzzi.

would be something if 2 left ACC Syracuse for Pitt!

not familiar with others…

perhaps for DB they keep the current coach who at least in interviews is impressive.

Comment by Pittscript 01.06.15 @ 9:23 pm

Here a gem from the Rivals free board…

“Once again, I must let you know that building the on campus stadium is much more affordable with the right people involved “opening the holes” so that Chancellor Gallagher can “run for a touchdown”. The financial backing and collateral for a BILLION dollar stadium is available to those with REAL $ in the Chancellor’s Circle. The new stadium will not cost that much. As I said, acquisition costs and construction costs are negotiable and no business man wants to waste his money ~ neither do the power players at Pitt. I am talking about alums with ridiculous money in the bank and on paper. And it is the on paper money that will float the mortgages that will make this stadium happen. Not just 10 or 20 million dollar net worth alums here. And you wouldn’t believe who these folks are. Just know THEY LOVE PITT FOOTBALL, HATED SP and DID NOT LIKE NORDY.”

Ain’t gonna happen folks…

Comment by Reed 01.07.15 @ 12:45 pm

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