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November 25, 2014

Pitt-San Diego State. The Aztecs are a very good defensive team that struggle with scoring. In past years, we might call them the mirror image of Pitt. Pitt is a team that has more offense than in past years, but will it be enough when the defense has been so porous? I don’t know.

Over the years with Pitt, the strong defense has usually prevailed — at least before getting to the NCAA Tournament. Especially when the team that relies on offense is not a clear juggernaut.

For Pitt to win this game, the three-point shooting will have to be there and the rebounding will have to at least match the effort shown last night.

10 pm on ESPN.





DOUBLE STANDARD…

A set of principles permitting greater opportunity or liberty to one than to another, especially the granting of greater LEEWAY relevant to athletic achievement between Collegiate Athletic Sports, for example BASKETBALL versus FOOTBALL.

– Merriam Webster

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.14 @ 11:29 pm

Getting rejected at the rim is like getting sacked in football… it shows dominance… Better athletes…

Why does everyone else have better athletes??? It’s brutal

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.25.14 @ 11:29 pm

Jones drifts to the right so badly on his jumper, it’s amazing he hits the rim.

Comment by Dan 72 11.25.14 @ 11:32 pm

2-9 on 3’s won’t get it done against anyone but Div. II teams.

Comment by Jackagain 11.25.14 @ 11:32 pm

Wait a minute, I’m using WAY too many CAPITAL Letters.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.14 @ 11:33 pm

Miami will kill us….they just beat Florida @ Florida.

Comment by Jackagain 11.25.14 @ 11:34 pm

That bump on robinsons miss has been called a foul on Pitt at least 3-4 times this game

Comment by Jpeezy 11.25.14 @ 11:34 pm

I couldn’t watch the Hawaii game, Dan 72

So I didn’t get that reality check

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.25.14 @ 11:35 pm

don’t see a run by this team in them.

seem totally overmatched.

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:37 pm

Pitt2…. You’ll get another when this team loses to Duquesne!

Comment by Dan 72 11.25.14 @ 11:37 pm

insult to injury SDSU is still pressing us.

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:38 pm

Good God! I hope not! @Dan 72

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.25.14 @ 11:39 pm

They’re toying with us. It appears that this will be a learning experience for a young team for next year. They absolutely have to figure out the 5 though.

Comment by longsufferingpittfan 11.25.14 @ 11:39 pm

You know what’s IRRITATING?

A University that TEARS DOWN a Football Stadium and instead of building a NEW FOOTBALL Stadium, builds an ELITE Basketball Arena without a ELITE Basketball Program to inhabit it.

Ya, that’s PRETTY IRRITATING.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.14 @ 11:39 pm

Needless to say, Jaime’s got some work to do…

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.25.14 @ 11:41 pm

wow this is pathetic

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:42 pm

agree with you on that one PoD

The Pete(and the mullah spent) had about a 10 year shelf life it seems for producing excellent Pitt teams.

Downward trend started in the 2011-2012 season.

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:44 pm

I hope Cameron Wright is the savior of this team. Because the way I see it right now this is the worst basketball team in the Jamie Dixon era. I hate to say… Losing record

Comment by PittDieHard 11.25.14 @ 11:44 pm

never elite, but excellent.

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:45 pm

I’ve seen rec teams play better defense than this pitt team

My God ..guys just blow by us as we stand flat footed. At least put up a hand…or maybe even better…move your fricken feet!,

Comment by Dan 72 11.25.14 @ 11:45 pm

even the total home court dominance at the Pete seems to have had a 10 year shelf life.

Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:47 pm

wow..this is not pretty, but a reality

Comment by Keith 11.25.14 @ 11:49 pm

At some point you either GO ELITE or GO LOOKING for an Elite Coach.

This goes for BOTH Football and Basketball.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.14 @ 11:50 pm

For all you who complain about Jamie making the tournament every year, going 25-8, ho-hum…well tonight is what the alternative looks like.

This team should improve (some), but right now they are not in the top half of the Maui tourney field, let alone the ACC conference.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.25.14 @ 11:51 pm

Tomorrow’s a new game, although after the way KSU played ZONA today, it may be a long one. We finally got the non-conf sos we’ve wanted for years, just happens to be when we’re playing a bunch of guys with a lot of learning to be done.

Comment by ShorePitt 11.25.14 @ 11:54 pm

BYU went to over time with them correct. Man I may be dead wrong on Pitt this year. Wright helps and maybe actual playing a good team will give Dixon a better view of this team. This will be an up and down year so don’t get your hopes up.

Comment by chethejet 11.25.14 @ 11:56 pm

This is Pitt’s worst team since the Willard era…

Comment by Jackagain 11.25.14 @ 11:58 pm

We are an amazing perimeter passing team… Maybe the best I’ve ever seen…

We can do it longer and more deliberately than anyone!

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.25.14 @ 11:59 pm

I would make BYU a 13 point fave tomorrow based on what I’ve seen of Pitt.

Comment by Dan 72 11.26.14 @ 12:00 am

Last year, laid down the Gauntlet by saying Chryst would win a MAJOR Bowl before Jamie makes the FINAL FOUR.

Was attacked for saying that by a couple of “Jamie Diehards” on this Blog.

Still think it’s a NO BRAINER, especially if you give Chryst a TEN-YEAR PASS just like Jamie.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.26.14 @ 12:00 am

BYU??

Comment by ShorePitt 11.26.14 @ 12:04 am

You know, just figured out the PROBLEM with Pitt Basketball…

It’s NOT the Coaching or the Players.

It’s just that they don’t have the SCRIPT!

Comment by PittofDreams 11.26.14 @ 12:06 am

OK, enough negative.

Time to be POSITIVE again.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.26.14 @ 12:09 am

forgive me KSU

Comment by Dan 72 11.26.14 @ 12:13 am

Embarassing. Worse is hearing were young and wait till next year. Dixon/Chryst/Pederson all need fired. None can do anything right. Dixon fails every year and the $ and committment to hoops makes his failures even worse. A New AD would flip this entire disaster upside down. All olympic coaches suck as well except maybe the wrestling coach.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.26.14 @ 12:58 am

Rule #2: Stop shouting.

link to netiquette.wikia.com

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.26.14 @ 1:33 am

Zeise’s column/notes echo my sentiment during the game;

they are overmatched inside man to man, so you play zone to force them to shoot from outside..as Frachillo said
Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 10:46 pm

“This was not a good night for the Panthers and not because they lost a game.

They have lost games in the past and will lose more in the future.

“It was a bad night because it is one of the first times I can remember they were completely overmatched. They got beat by a better team, a team that is more athletic, more physical, taller, deeper, more mature – you name a category, San Diego State was better in it and in some categories, much better.”

and again;
Randall great against scrub D2 teams, doesn’t even get PT against good ones.
Comment by Emel 11.25.14 @ 11:04 pm

“Derrick Randall, who had 10 points and 21 rebounds Monday in a win over Chaminade, earned the start at center of Joe Uchebo but he quickly figured out he wasn’t facing a D-II team and he finished with only two points and only one rebound.”

Maybe Zeise reads The Blather.

Comment by Emel 11.26.14 @ 6:21 am

Comment by Emel 11.26.14 @ 6:21 am

And we couldn’t wait for basketball season… SMH

Comment by Pittastic 11.26.14 @ 6:39 am

I have a hard time seeing this as a tourney team. No defense, no good big man, no real outside threat…big problems

Comment by 18 melba 11.26.14 @ 6:45 am

This was painful to watch. Not sure the rest of the year will be any better. KSU will beat Pitt by 15 tonight and watch out for Duquesne. To me Jeter is a BIG TIME dissapointment. I remember when we all wanted Wright on the bench and now everyone can’t wait for him to come back.

Comment by JP 11.26.14 @ 6:57 am

Pederson makes another gaffe. Signing Dixon to a long term contract. Without powder puff non-conf schedules does Pitt make it to the tournament 2 out of the last 3 years (Adams saved them even though he was not used another indictment on Dixon) or it would be 3 years in a row.
Should have gave him a 2 year extension (take it or leave it) and pony up whatever he wants to get Miller to come back home.
Remember as our astute friend in Houston said 2 years ago in basketball players come for the coach not the school.
Calipari, Pitino, Boeheim, Michigan State coach, etc.

Comment by lost in the south 11.26.14 @ 7:14 am

Well I bet the Panthers and I have to tell you this is going to be a long season, maybe I will double down and try to get my money back on the Pitt Miami football game Saturday.

I don’t think Pitt can handle KState today, wow, this team looks really really bad.

Comment by WLAT and the Big Beat! 11.26.14 @ 8:17 am

Ugh the worst thing about losing is going on the blather and hearing people essentially say that Dixon should be fired and this is all Pederson’s fault.

Now, Pederson should be fired, but not for anything related to basketball.

Pitt may have a losing record in bball this year for all I know. And Dixon may not be (I think, is not) an elite coach if by elite we define that as in the top 5% of coaches. But he is top 20%, maybe even 10%, so I personally plan to support him through a little bit of thick and thin, warts and all. Yes, even the thin, that is what fans should do.

Anyway, what bodes poorly for this team is that they should be much further along having played in the Bahamas and all summer. Its not like they all just met each other for the first time against Niagara.

Comment by DD 11.26.14 @ 8:21 am

Your kidding right S Miller isn’t coming to Pitt, pipe dream. Dixon knows he has a big hole at center and more importantly he seems to have a problem understanding Pitt is not a power rebounding tough defensive team. We will see, but I expect Dixon and team will struggle defensively with out changing the his ways SDSU was pressing up 20, it is a mind set.

Comment by chethejet 11.26.14 @ 8:28 am

We said this last year and it is even more true this year – the problem continues to be Jamie’s inability to recruit athletes. We used to think we were a top 20 or even top 10 type team. I don’t know what has happened to his eye for talent but we keep bringing in marginal, small and slow players and hope we can force them to play shut down defense. They can’t because they are small and slow.

I am not as big a Jamie basher as some (and right now it’s hard to really argue with them)as I think he is probably a good X’s and O’s guy and is a good face for the school, but his recruiting has been terrible for the last 3 years at least. Getting 1 guy (Adams) in that time frame does not cut it. There is not one guy on the floor last night that would start for San Diego State.

I think the best players don’t want to come here and be stifled and benched the first time they miss a shot – and that’s why we don’t have the athletes to guard the other team’s best guys.

We will be marginally better when Cam gets back but not enough to play with a team like SDSU.

I think it’s that simple – but I wish it wasn’t.

When is the Basketball survey coming out?

Comment by htp123 11.26.14 @ 8:30 am

Well, nobody complaining about the soft non-com now. LOL

Comment by gc 11.26.14 @ 8:31 am

One major difference last night was SDSU had shot-blockers, especially their big guy. We have none, not much to do about it at this point.

The two most deflating things are the turnovers and poor shooting. Those are things I did not expect.

Comment by gc 11.26.14 @ 8:39 am

Time to look at the whole program. What has Bill Barton done lately? How about Brandin Knight. They have been the assistants during this downslide.

Comment by alcofan 11.26.14 @ 8:39 am

Wright and DJ may have made the game closer, but not nearly enough to change the outcome. Expectations just took a major beating.

Comment by gc 11.26.14 @ 8:43 am

Funny how we are the longest/tallest team in a while, on average…yet were so small last night!

Sad that we are getting pushed around when everyone not named Robinson or Newkirk is 6′ 6″ or taller and weighs at least 210.

Comment by DD 11.26.14 @ 9:10 am

Men against boys last night.

Winning in college hoops is more about the Jim’s and the Joes than it is the X’s and O’s. Dixon is good, for the most part, with the tactics, but his recruiting over the last few years has been suspect.

Combined with, injuries and suspensions, the poor recruiting has left the current roster in shambles.

Consider, this team is made up mostly of young, lightly recruited projects and transfers. Robinson is the only legit ACC level recruit upperclassman. Young and Newkirk, true sophomores, are the only other two top 150 recruits.

Dixon is having to rely on really YOUNG lightly recruited projects for significant minutes. Luther and Johnson are going to be good, maybe really good, in a few years, but both should have been redshirted. Neither were recruited by any other ACC level programs. Artis and Jones were alson lightly recruited and were late pick ups by Pitt. Again, the best you can hope for with those guys is that they’ll be valuable bench guys their junior/senior years. Now they’re starting as sophs, not because they’ve developed, but out of necessity. Not good.

And at center, Pitt is relying on fill in transfers. One was a back up at Rutgers and the other had such a serious knee injury that most expected he would never play again. And the third can’t beat out a walk on.

Make no mistake, Dixon is responsible for the roster. Even with D. Johnson and Wright, this team wasn’t built to win an ACC title. The 6th place projection was about the ceiling. I’m afraid we’re looking at a sub .500 ACC record this season and maybe next.

Recruiting is the most important job on a head coach. Dixon is a mediocre recruiter AT BEST.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 11.26.14 @ 9:30 am

+1 boubacar

Comment by alcofan 11.26.14 @ 9:33 am

Boubacar is absolutely right.

Though I will ask, did he really ever get more highly recruited players? I think it has just been the case that they have panned out better.

And most importantly, we have been able to field mediocre players in their 3rd, 4th, and 5th years. Mediocre players in thier 1st and 2nd years? Never works out well for Pitt. That I think is what we are seeing this year.

Comment by DD 11.26.14 @ 12:23 pm

Dixon got better recruits when he had better asst. coaches.

Comment by alcofan 11.26.14 @ 12:39 pm

Dixon does know he has a big hole at center, aside from Adams and Blair that has been his problem since taking over from Howland.
Next year that hole is not likely to be resolved by the committed JUCO. We can hope that he is a second level center level like McGhee who has some utility.
As for 2016 no centers in the mix at this point.
After the Adams fiasco what developing center would want to come play for Dixon.

Comment by lost in the south 11.26.14 @ 4:27 pm

Wow I am lost by that one…trying to really figure out what that means. “Adams fiasco” such that no center would want to play here. Well how is Adams doing now? Just fine thank you. If you ask him about Pitt what do you get? 100% warm, positive memories. So I think your thinking is quite the opposite of what Adams thinks himself.

Whereas the center position has not been working out for Dixon lately, I think he has a deserved repuation of developing Centers as well as any college coach out there. How Gray could become an 10 year NBA player? Development under Dixon at Pitt. How McGhee could have such a dominating (defensively) senior year? Development by Dixon at Pitt. Even Adams developed a ton in that single year at Pitt. PErsonally I think Dixon tried to hold him back a little to increase the chance that he stayed. I agree with that strategy even if it did not work out.

Comment by DD 11.27.14 @ 1:26 pm

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