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March 19, 2014

Everybody Is The Underdog

Filed under: Basketball,NCAA Tourney — Chas @ 7:40 am

Pitt has staked the early claim to being the underdog against Colorado.

“We have been preaching since the start of the ACC tournament that we are the underdog,” Dixon said. “That was our mentality, that was our thinking and we wanted to play that way.

“But we also talked about playing on the road or playing in neutral court games. We have had great success.”

He pointed out that the Panthers’ 7-2 road record in conference play was the best in the ACC (tied with Virginia).

“We seem to play well on the road. … The key is we have had good focus on the road trips, good preparation and pretty good practices the times we’ve had them.”

It should be easy enough to claim. Colorado is seeded higher than Pitt. Even if it is only 9 vs. 8. The team seems to be buying into it a bit.

But, wait. Colorado isn’t going to let that underdog claim go to Pitt that easy.

Vegas likes Pitt by 5.5 points. So do the stats.

The bookies aren’t the only ones predicting trouble for the Buffs.

Peter Tiernan is, too. Tiernan, who operates the bracketscience.com website and has been studying the NCAA Tournament for 22 years, said his look at the analytics doesn’t bode well for a CU team that will be an underdog in any game it plays.

“They commit more turnovers than they generate, which is not a good stat for an underdog seed,” Tiernan said. “Successful underdog seeds have kind of a high-risk, high-reward strategy. If you look at teams like (Virginia Commonwealth University) in recent years, they turn people over. They try to buy more possessions. Colorado does not seem to be that kind of a team.”

CU’s 0.87 assist-to-turnover ratio is the poorest of the four No. 8 seeds in the tournament. Pittsburgh has a 1.48 assist-to-turnover ratio, which is the best of the No. 9 seeds.

Tiernan also sees CU’s three-point margin of victory — by far the lowest among No. 8 seeds — as a potential red flag.

Of course Pitt has been playing its share of tight games in the last month? Six weeks? Seems like forever at this point. I think it prudent to suggest keeping a drink or heart medicine nearby. This could be a rough one.

As for the turnovers, one of the areas Pitt will look to create them will be inside. Colorado has had their inside guys struggle when doubled.

A key for the Colorado men’s basketball team against defensive-minded Pittsburgh in an NCAA Tournament game Thursday in Orlando, Fla., will be whether 6-foot-10 sophomore Josh Scott can fight through double-teams, Buffaloes coach Tad Boyle said Monday.

“Pittsburgh is a very physical team, a very good defensive team,” Boyle said. “We’re going to work with Josh (on double-teams). In the game of basketball, if there are two guys on you, then somebody’s open.

“We have to find that open guy. We have to get the ball moving. We have to get Pittsburgh’s guys in rotations. The fact that they double the post at times can be a good thing for us if we handle it the right way.”

Scott couldn’t get much going during the conference tournament, however. He shot only 29 percent (9-of-31) from the field for the three games in Las Vegas and averaged just 9.3 points. Against both Arizona and California, Scott attempted fewer than 10 shots.

One of the problems, Boyle said, was Scott often got the ball too far from the basket. That allowed opponents to clog up the paint and clamp a double-team on him.

“We have to catch it deeper in the block,” Boyle said. “That helps your floor spacing. We need to give Josh some room to operate. When he doesn’t catch it on the block, that makes it tough.

“Josh struggled with double-teams last year and he really struggled with it in the Pac-12 Tournament. He doesn’t like to be double-teamed, but he’s going to have to get used to it. That’s the ultimate sign of respect for a big guy, when they put two guys on you. We have to make them pay.”

Remember when the Big East did that 10 or 12 man 1st team all-Big East squad? The Pac-12 is still doing that and Scott made that list. So, he is good, but he can be taken out of his game. Pitt has shown in recent weeks — and especially in the ACC Tournament — that they can be very effective in double-teaming in the post.





Yeah, Pitt played Cal Poly….now Dixon will be saying his NC schedule was good since them and Albany were Tournament teams…LOL.

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 8:10 pm

@ Frankie
JoeD is lurking on here in some form.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:16 pm

Our RPI must have zoomed up, after the big wins in the Dance by Albany & Cal Poly SLO. NC State too.

Now JD won’t be convinced to schedule any tougher non-con teams !

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:21 pm

JoeD is on record that he hates this site. Look for any reference to pecan pie or track times though just in case 😉

I don’t dislike him though like the KoolAid drinkers do at Panther’s Prey.

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 8:23 pm

Let’s see how Artis, Nuke,& Young (back & all) look vs. Colorado. They are no longer freshmen. If they play well,and we win,things could get interesting on Saturday!

Comment by Stanley Schweiger 03.19.14 @ 8:23 pm

You’re right Stanley, those 3 only gave us a total of 5 points & 3 rebounds against UVA.

Need some more production obviously.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:27 pm

EMel JoeD could make some sence some times this chick just says bad things abought pitt with out thinking no thought giveing to his state ments and is picking on Dan i think he is a Troll

Comment by Frankcan 03.19.14 @ 8:28 pm

Ok i know this will piss you all off but as you know north carolina BB team cant read a news paper.
so i think pitt should have found a way to get Mostella into school for at least a year even if he flunked out after the BB season if they can get away with it we should also ok jump on me.

Comment by Frankcan 03.19.14 @ 8:36 pm

@Emel, I can’t remember a Pitt team that was as good at getting the ball inside as this team is. Can you?

Comment by Howard 03.19.14 @ 8:36 pm

Anyone going to be at the game tomorrow? We will be at Church St Station beforehand.

Comment by OrlandoPittAlum 03.19.14 @ 8:44 pm

@ Howard

Only the teams with Brandin Knight as PG, as we got lots of easy layups from Ontario, Chevy & Toree.
Those 3 all shot over 55% FG, since most were layups. UVA team this year reminds me of those Pitt teams. They got tons of easy layups against us.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:45 pm

I would add the Sean Miller to Charles Smith & Jerome Lane team as well as the Blair years.

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 8:48 pm

Brandin had 251 assists that year. (2001-2002)

This year Lamar has 146 & JR has 134, although a lot of JR’s are assists on Lamar’s baskets from the perimeter.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:50 pm

Jackagain yes that was a fun team to watch take it home Jerome.

Comment by Frankcan 03.19.14 @ 8:54 pm

The following year, we had some inside players with unheard of FG % numbers.

Chevy at 72% FG
Ontario at 61% FG
Toree at 55% (in limited minutes this year)

Knight had 209 assists (he gave up some minutes)
Krauser had 93 assists

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:54 pm

The years we had Brian Shorter as well, cause he was a beast inside. Even moreso than Smith & Lane.

Porter led the team in assists with 154
Miller had 143.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 8:58 pm

Darelle Porter was a great assist guy.

Previous year 1989-1990, Porter had 208 assists.

Miller’s top assist year was 1991-1992…he had 199 assists. That was Morningstar’s big year. And Chris McNeal.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 9:02 pm

You have to go back quite a few years to find a team that was better at getting the ball inside. The Blair years don’t count. Although Blair scored a ton of points inside, they were almost all put-backs from offensive rebounds.

Comment by Howard 03.19.14 @ 9:06 pm

Brian Shorter was the best ‘short’ rebounding guy I ever saw at 6’6″. Nasir was good too…

link to articles.chicagotribune.com

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 9:14 pm

Right Howard, DeJuan was the King of going after his own misses and scoring. Guy was unbelievably tenacious.

2001 as I noted above, Knight use to make all those obscene passes to open bigs underneath for easy layups, to the tune of 251 assists.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 9:16 pm

@ Jackagain,

Had Shorter been eligible in 1987-1988 season, Pitt would have had Smith, Lane & Shorter up front. Gore could have been moved to 2G.

Shorter was still allowed to practice with the team and they said even as a freshmen he use to dominate both Smith & Lane.

That team would have been something to behold.
Final 4, a good shot.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 9:22 pm

Yeah Emel…Pitt’s Fab Five.

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 9:30 pm

Yeah Emel…Pitt’s Fab Five.

Comment by Jackagain 03.19.14 @ 9:30 pm

Yea we would have had 3 Parade-All Americans in the starting 5. I forget if Gore was a Parade AA as well.

Rod Brookin got hurt that year as well only played 5 games.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 9:39 pm

spirit, yes Woodall had a better scoring average, but Newkirk saved the day vs. Clemson and played well in two tournament victories.

Woodall played in two losses vs. Syracuse and Wichita St. to finish his career.

Newkirk is also playing much better D down the stretch than Woodall ever could.

Comment by gc 03.19.14 @ 10:22 pm

First Big Joke team goes out with a ,….thud.

Outscored 14 to 1 in OT. lol

Bye bye Hawkeyes.

Comment by Emel 03.19.14 @ 11:00 pm

Woodall was never the same after abdominal tear. Newkirk has much higher upside. We’ve already seen development this year, his vision & court awareness. Needs to work on fouls, stamina & left hand, his deep attacks from left to right are world class quick, he needs a threatening drive with his left hand to keep defenders honest. There was a lose ball near half court line in Wake game early, when the score was close. Josh was a blur, streaked from just above the key, beat two guys to the ball (Cam was nearby) and broke to the rim. Been watching Pitt ball for decades, never saw a Pitt player move at that speed, roadrunner fast.

His defense is better now, fights through picks. He knows now how he should have played Ennis in last 4 secs, should have taken away his natural hand, forced him left to change direction back towards Cam. Water under the bridge, he will get a chance to so his sticking D in Orlando. Get past CO today he will be 1 on 1 with Scottie.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.20.14 @ 6:26 am

2 words for Florida – GO ALBANY!!!

Comment by TVax 03.20.14 @ 7:53 am

Any late word on Zanna’s flu?

Will Randall need to play 20+ minutes?

Comment by TVax 03.20.14 @ 7:54 am

Jackagain – thanks for the great link. was always a fan of the Ox. My impression is he’s a class act who only recently retired from a successful european career. forward that link to the kid who seems to have left prep school. my impression is that CU has no one that can keep up with Newk. I was at that game too OSP. His acceleration to that ball defied logic & took me a moment to digest what I had seen. Ive gone to games my whole life – we have never had a guard with wheels like these H2P – if not now when?

Comment by ptbreezeb 03.20.14 @ 8:08 am

TVax, a very important question. We definitely need the new improved Zanna in there getting the rebound stats in order against the Buffs. If he is not 100% due to the stomach virus that he was dealing with yesterday, then all of a sudden I’m leaning more towards the “one and done” scenario for the Panthers. IV fluids and an espresso prior to the game may be in order.

He has been the main reason behind the current Pitt resurgence. He make the the Pitt MOJO GO!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.20.14 @ 9:53 am

Yes, need Zanna to be the Zanna of the ACC tournament. I think Cam Wright will have a big day today. Every 4-5 games he has one, so he’s due.

Lamar just needs to play within the flow of the offense and make good decisions. Feel like he has made just way too many bad ones in the last 3-4 games.

And, yes, they better have worked on breaking the MFing press because if they have a lead late in the game, they are going to see one. And if they win, we know they’ll see one from the Gators at any given time.

Comment by Carmen 03.20.14 @ 9:57 am

Is there a way to get game this live on-line?

Comment by TVax 03.20.14 @ 11:52 am

Yeah…here: Just don’t download any players.

link to stream2watch.me

Comment by Jackagain 03.20.14 @ 12:39 pm

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