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March 18, 2014

Spring Practice Always Seems Too Soon

Filed under: Football,Practice — Chas @ 7:36 am

I’m not saying Coach Paul Chryst does his level best to minimize any hype and attention to football in the spring, but cancelling the Blue-Gold Scrimmage and having the first practice on the same evening as Selection Sunday. Well, it’s hard not to make some inferences.

Between my absences and basketball season, football talk has gotten a short shrift from me. Not that there has been much beyond speculation for most of the last month. Still, there were some items.

Bryan Murphy and Mark Giubilato have left the team, though the two will remain at Pitt to finish their academics. Both will be seniors. Some attrition was expected simply because the scholarship numbers weren’t adding up correctly.

From a football standpoint, Giubilato isn’t a big loss. He was the back-up fullback to Jaymar Parrish. He was on special teams as well, but realistically he wasn’t going to see much action this year.

Murphy has battled injuries and academics in his career at Pitt. It has sapped what seemed like a very promising time at Pitt when he earned playing time as a freshman. Yes, he was going to face stiff competition Given the overall lack of playmakers on defense  and questions with players returning from injury on that side of the ball, there is a little concern in losing more depth from the defensive end spot.

As for spring practice. Gee, I wonder what the primary story line will be? Let me think about it. I’m drawing a blank. Don’t worry, it will come to me. I just wish it was a simple choice. Well, I’ll come back to that.

Well, there is the receiving corps. Obviously the headliner is Tyler Boyd.

Now it’s Boyd’s turn to shoulder the mantle of leadership. More importantly, he and new starting quarterback Chad Voytik, also a rising sophomore, will carry the fortunes of the passing game.

“It doesn’t matter how young (the team) is,” Boyd said. “It’s how well you are coached and how fast you process what you are being taught.”

Boyd said he tries to lead by example on the field and in the weight room.

“Even when they are doing good, I push them to be even better,” he said of his teammates. “I push them to be great. You want to do great things.”

Practice will look different this season with the loss of Street, Engram and quarterbacks coach Brooks Bollinger and the additions of running backs coach John Settle and receivers coach Greg Lewis.

Lewis, who played eight years in the NFL, likes what he has seen of Boyd on video.

“My thing is I want to add to what Coach Engram has done and don’t mess him up,” he said. “I definitely think he has all the tools. He can catch, he’s quick and he’s fast. It’s just fine-tuning things to make it even better than it is.”

Come the fall, all eyes will be on Adonis Jennings to come in and see if he can grab the second WR spot. In spring practices, there is a lot more competition. Though, it seems Ronald Jones and Manasseh Garner are the primaries at the moment.

Senior Manasseh Garner will split time between wide receiver and tight end, but he is officially listed as a wide receiver on the roster.

“I’ll be able to be physical (like a tight end) and run routes like a receiver,” he said.

He said he has lost 20 pounds and is at 215.

“He has his own skill set,” Chryst said.

Garner playing a bit more at WR makes sense. As Chryst says about the skill set, he is very versatile. Getting him out there is important, and Pitt has plenty of depth at tight end that moving him to a WR-esque type position opens things up more and creates potential mismatches with whoever has to cover Garner.

As for non-position changes, James Connor is still being the team player but all signs and his own desires suggest that he will focus on being a running back, not a defensive end.

Running back James Conner is listed at 230 pounds, but he said he checked in at 248 — the same weight at which he played the 2013 season. He said he wants to play this season at 240. He said he is on target to reach two of his offseason goals.

“Coach said I was doing a great job with ball security and footwork,” Conner said.

On the matter of playing defensive end — something he did in last season’s bowl game — Conner said he’s OK with that.

“If they ask me to do it, I will definitely do it,” he said.

But he has changed his number from 40 to 24 in honor of one of his favorite players, Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch.

“He refused to go down, so that’s what I’m going to try to do this year,” he said.

In a vacuum. Or even just a few years ago, the idea of James Connor being moved to DE would seem ridiculous on its face. A very talented kid who really excelled as a freshman running the ball. Yet, there is more than a little serious talk about the merits of moving him to defensive end.

Some of it stems from how the running back is valued these days. The position is still a vital part of even the most pass-happy offense, but the individual player less so. As in the NFL, college teams (and fans) are a lot less concerned with having a stud, every down running back. They see the spot as being much more of a shared position where the drop-off doesn’t have to be as vast between starter and back-up.

For Pitt specifically, that lack of sure playmakers on the defensive side of the ball is a big concern. No Aaron Donald. Lots of new players to start, and frankly the lackluster recruiting on the defensive side of the ball. It isn’t that there is no talent or that players won’t develop. It is that unlike the offense there are no highly touted players that have come to the defensive side. So, a player like Connor who has such great athleticism and can have a visible impact. Well, suddenly there is room for discussion.





Half the time the haters make little sense … I didn’t quite understand the last posts from either Chick or UpittBB

Comment by wbb 03.19.14 @ 11:14 am

wait a minute … just now dawned on me that upittBB was talking about baseball (should have known)

Comment by wbb 03.19.14 @ 11:16 am

I sometimes wish I could just go to the games and not be into all the details of what is happening all year.It seems Pitt either has a team with good offense and poor defense or vise versa. Like everyone here my concern is still defense and recruiting. Solve those problems and things look much brighter.Hopefully we have a coach who can solve those problems as a good head coach should. Pitt could still have one of those two QB’s we lost if we didnt want to be Holier than though. But then we could have had Tom Bradley running the defense and recruiting also. PS. The Bradley family here in Johnstown has been well known and highly reputable including both the boys who played for PSU. The Bradley’s ,Jack Hamm, Steve Schmierin all came out of Bishop Mccourt here for JoPa. Look at history. Why did Pitt loose Jock Sutherland, Pop Warner and Jackie Sherrill? Admin. lack of direction and committment to OUTSTANDING football. We are recovering administrative screwups when it comes to football.

Comment by Lawrence garman 03.19.14 @ 11:28 am

@PittMan, you’re right. I’ve often said, I’m a fan of Dixon, but anyone on here could tell you I’ve had my questions the past two years on many different things, and I’ve posted them. But good Lord, the constant bashing, and only bashing.

I think they post, because they just enjoy getting a rise out of people.

Fair enough, they got me to post three times now, probably chuckling to themselves. That’s ok.

@wbb, ya, someone asked him about baseball yesterday.

I could sum up his feelings though. The baseball team sucks, or will end up sucking, the coach sucks, Dixon sucks, the hoop players suck, Chryst sucks, the football players suck.

Here a suck, there a suck, everywhere a suck-suck.

LOL!!!

I really don’t mind, unless their facts are wrong.

Comment by Dan 03.19.14 @ 11:33 am

Kind of like the perception by some, and the comments made “ha ha Pitt will go out in the first round” that have come to be their reality.

Well, let’s look at that factually.

2002 Sweet 16
2003 Sweet 16
2004 Sweet 16
2005 1st round
2006 2nd round
2007 Sweet 16
2008 2nd round
2009 Elite 8
2010 2nd round
2011 2nd round
2013 1st round

I grant you, as all of you have been I’m sure, I’ve been disappointed the last couple years, and, no one wants to go to a Final Four or get a N.C. more than I.

However, to laugh them off as always losing in the 1st round or even 2nd round, is FACTUALLY incorrect.

What about the 4 Sweet 16’s and the Elite 8????

Conveiniently forgotten about???

I will also make the case, that getting to the tournament is still a big deal. We’ve come to expect it. Do you know how many teams don’t go, let alone 12 out of 13 years??

Especially compared to football.

About 127 Div 1 teams, 35 bowls. 70 teams in bowls right?? More than half. Still happy to get to a bowl, and you’d rather be a team going to a bowl than one that does not. But, 55% of teams go to a bowl game.

351 Div 1 basketball teams. 68 go to the tourney.

That is 19%.

College football. 55% go to post-season.
College bsktball. 19% go to post-season.

But, why deal with facts, right??

Do I want more?? Of course. But to treat the program like it’s garbage, show’s their lack of knowledge, not ours.

Comment by Dan 03.19.14 @ 11:57 am

WBB & Pittman – Are you people morons? I was asked about Baseball and answered the question. If I said anything that isn’t a fact please correct me? I’ve been planning a final four party for hoops and I said Trey takes us to 9 wins but I’m a hater. Dear Jesus you guys need to learn how to read or occasionally leave the burg and no Ocean City doesn’t count. Baseball is in the best (tied with SEC) for baseball. We will not compete with the level of talent vs. the UNC’s and the UVA’s and Clemson and FSU. Our facilities are not ACC worthy. Go watch a game at any of the programs I just discussed. Hater, LOL You guys are morons…

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 12:26 pm

Dan – You obviously can’t read either. When did I bash baseball or dixon or anyone else for that matter. I bash one person in the program Steve Pederson. He is a joke. I occasionally make fun of Paul’s Grey Pullover so if that is your charge then I’m guilty. You guys are to freaking serious. I want all our programs to do well. I’m sick of us other than hoops being laughed at nationally. Yeah, the Pizza Bowl isn’t exactly getting after it.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 12:30 pm

@Upitt, you’re negative Pitt 95% of the time.

Comment by Dan 03.19.14 @ 12:33 pm

So I guess this week I’ve used up my 5% of positivity? Listen, I don’t agree with lots that happens in the programs. I hate that Dixon has shit the bed over the last few years in March but I still support them even when I bet against them. My problem is with Pederson, I saw first hand the things he did and to a greater extent didn’t do. If you want to write me off that’s fine but I and a lot of friends on the football and basketball team lived through his idiotic decisions. We have to play perfect against the Gators and I mean perfect and they have to play a C game for us to win. Donovan is on another level. Look at his post season at UF and tell me what you think about that. Good Luck and stay warm up there.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 12:38 pm

@Upitt, in fairness, I do respect your knowledge of the games and in hindsight, %95 was high.

So, I do apologize. We have agreed many times on wanting more from our athletic dept and athletic programs.

I’m not backing up from my statements, and it would be easy for me to do, especially on a blog, but, why would anyone want too, it’s just a blog, no big deal one way or another, why not just tell the truth, but I will say this now, in hindsight………..

Other than the actual post about “Upitt” hates so and so, which I was laughing about, the other ones were really geared towards another poster, and people that always call into the talk shows.

Like I said, just a blog, no reason to tell story’s, so that is the truth. Sorry you got caught in the cross fire.

So, maybe a bit of transference on my part, so I do apologize.

It just bugs me when I hear people say “ha ha ha
Pitt will be done by Thursday night, that’s their M.O., ha ha ha”

The facts just don’t back that reputation up.

I want more. However the way some people talk about the program, like it’s junk and is garbage rubs me the wrong way.

Comment by Dan 03.19.14 @ 12:54 pm

Dan – I agree. That’s fair. Get to Dallas and I will provide the cigars, scotch, Whiskey…. Emel and Doc Tom and PMD will have the $1 bills for us to use at the local entertainment facilities. Haha. Be safe… I respect and like your posts..

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 2:03 pm

I’m glad you made some steps toward clarifying comments and making up, but there remains a vocal, small group of posters who primarily criticize and bash – mainly football players, who don’t know what the hell they are talking about. Dumb ass comments that degrade kids who have left, kids still playing and kids we are recruiting. Again, the assholes who were all over Vinopal last year and slunk under rocks later are who I am talking about. Many teenagers no doubt, but others know it alls who were on Savage all and a few others all year. I wonder if some of them are watching the same game we are.

Comment by PittMan 03.19.14 @ 2:25 pm

Pittman – I never was a Tino fan. Savage played tough and played with heart. I hope he does well in life. I don’t see him at the next level so I hope he got his education especially with all the transferring. Vinopal played terribly for the first 1/3 of the season but really came on strong. I’m sure Michigan is sad he left. Take care…

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 2:51 pm

I think it truly just comes down to this…there are people who are happier when Pitt loses than they are when they win. The reason they are happy? because they really aren’t Pitt fans. The reason they post on here? because they are trolls who get a rise out of bashing people and getting reactions from their inflammatory statements. They obviously are not very intelligent. They obviously don’t get much satisfaction in their lives. They never back up their statements with any rational thoughts or facts. Many of the posts are the same senseless person using different names. I for one am completely fed up. I’m not holding back any longer. If you want to post garbage then I’m going to call you out on it. I’m going to break your nonsense down point by point to unveil the absolute stupidity of your arguments and the muttenhead(s) you truly are…and you know who you are.

Comment by Gordo 03.19.14 @ 2:52 pm

chick, your quotes…first you say:

“The carpetbagger at Penn State now has 5-4* recruits all offered by Pitt.”

then you go on to say:

“Don’t know what you’re talking about Wilson has not signed yet.”

so, let me get this straight. Penn St. has all those guys signed? rrrright. Is it even possible to have future recruits signed yet? NOPE. It’s good to have a recruit if you’re Penn St. (unsigned) but not good for Pitt because they are (unsigned). You realize how this is a complete contradiction right? of course you do.

Wilson IS as good as signed however. He is very tight with Knight. Plays on the same AAU team he did. Are AAU connections important in recruiting? hmmm. What do you think if you’re such the recruiting expert? Historically, do basketball recruits back out or flip very often? Care to do the research? I didn’t think so. The answer is very rarely.

Ironically, the only way we lose these 4-5 star future recruits is if you have your way and JD is fired. Then Slice is gone and Knight is gone. Wilson is a lock. Period.

Comment by Gordo 03.19.14 @ 3:05 pm

So why the smart ass comment about Michigan being sad. I doubt there are staff’s anywhere that give a second thought to kids who sign elsewhere, transfer elsewhere or graduate.

They may not be sad he left, but Michigan offered him, recruited him, signed him so he is not the complete turd everyone made him out to be last year. All those who know how to put a secondary on the field at the D-1 level.

He has a Pitt uniform on now, plays hard and hasn’t done anything to embarrass his school so that is enough for me.

Glad to know he played his way back into your good graces.

Comment by PittMan 03.19.14 @ 4:19 pm

Pittman – Can you read??? What was smart about that comment? I said I bet they are sad b/c he is playing good at Pitt. How is that a smart ass comment. You my friend need reading lessons or go to the gym you are wound to tight.

Comment by upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 6:00 pm

Dan and outhers upittbb has been on here a long time and he makes some good points dont put him in with chick who is i think a Troll who has come on here from no were and has nothing good to say and might be a kid or a penn state Troll.trust me upittbb is a good man dont put him on the same plate with chick.
I have tryed to not say any thing but chick is a pain in the ass.
he has a right to say what he wants as long as he is not a Trool but i think he is and no one on here pisses me off as much as him.

Comment by Frankcan 03.19.14 @ 7:30 pm

Frankcan – Miss you buddy. I need to get on here. You better get your ass to Dallas for final four if Pitt gets to it. Need you for the party!!!

Comment by upittbaseball 03.19.14 @ 8:57 pm

UPitt, my apology, I thought the Michigan comment was out of sarcasm. My mistake.

Comment by PittMan 03.19.14 @ 9:15 pm

I prefer bourbon, Wild Turkey will do fine, Upittbaseball.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.20.14 @ 6:21 am

Pittman – no problem. I was sincere about michigan missing him. Doc – i will get us a bottle.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.20.14 @ 8:39 am

BTW, I agree with you Upittbb on Anderson, any Texas QB that can take his team to the HS state championship can’t be all chopped liver. I hope that you’re mistaken about needing him to step in under center this season due to Voytik injuries however.

But then, that is kind of the typical UpittBB signature,isn’t it? In some way shape or form, negative karma.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.20.14 @ 9:42 am

Negative?? I think Anderson is better than Voytik. Just my opinion. Oh and he just didn’t win states he won it in 5A. Schools with 1800 in a class.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.20.14 @ 11:19 am

No matter what happens, at least we aren’t

Morganhole or Pedophile St.!!!

H2P!!!!!!

Comment by Dan 03.20.14 @ 11:24 am

Watch yourself Upittbaseball, the dark side will not be happy with any hint of positive energy that you might inadvertantly impart on the FORCE. Whether it be channeled thru Anderson or any other venue.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.20.14 @ 8:10 pm

Doc. LOL

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.20.14 @ 10:29 pm

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