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January 14, 2014

Open Thread: Pitt-GT

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread — Chas @ 7:41 pm

I made an uncomfortable link this morning. In 2007, when Pitt upset Duke in MSG the Panthers also lost Mike Cook for the season. The very next game, Pitt got trounced at Dayton (and lost Levance Fields for a chunk of the season just to make things worse).

This year, Pitt loses Durand Johnson and has to go to Georgia Tech. The one common theme is that the coach is the same. Brian Gregory was the coach at Dayton then and is the coach at Georgia Tech now. Anything that reminds me of that loss — no matter how vague — makes me nervous.

Other concerns.

Georgia Tech (10-6) has been a tough opponent at home. The Yellow Jackets are 8-1 at McCamish, and the enthusiastic crowd impressed Notre Dame head coach Mike Brey, who said, “Their fans were great. Their fans gave them probably the confidence to win the basketball game.”

Georgia Tech is 5-0 against Pittsburgh. The teams’ last meeting came in 1989 at The Omni, a 111-92 Georgia Tech win.

That one loss. Brian Gregory’s old team, Dayton.

One of the issues for GT has been that they look really impressive and then disappear for large stretches.

Tech again showed its habit of turning it on and off. It worked out better than against Vanderbilt and St. John’s, when Tech had a double-digit lead in the first half before losing by wide margins. Saturday, Tech had a 17-4 lead that was reduced to two points before the end of the first half and a 54-39 lead with 13:59 to go that vanished after the Jackets failed to score over the next five minutes and 26 seconds.

Kind of late for us Eastern Time Zone people. A 9 pm game on a weekday on ESPNU.





Now the printing presses must be churning with the can proclaimation that the ACC has been overrun by the BE.

Comment by xfmrman 01.14.14 @ 11:21 pm

wonder how Dennis Scott is doing now. Pitt got jobbed in that game btw.

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:21 pm

Robinson POY but another team win …. this team always seems to get key contributions as needed

Comment by wbb 01.14.14 @ 11:21 pm

The BiG East was sooooooo much tougher than this league…not even close

Comment by Keith 01.14.14 @ 11:22 pm

Now the printing presses must be churning with the proclamation that the ACC has been overrun by the BE.*

Comment by xfmrman 01.14.14 @ 11:22 pm

GT has the most ugly female trombone players I’ve ever seen btw. Dyke city

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:22 pm

@Emel and some phantom foul calls against Pitt down the stretch. But, since I don’t bet on anyone but me, only I need is for us to have one more point than whoever we’re playing.

Nice gutty win. I like this team.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.14.14 @ 11:22 pm

don’t know how many kids Ironhead had but at least 2 are pretty good athletes

Comment by wbb 01.14.14 @ 11:23 pm

I like this team. Shitty week losing Durand. Lamar played like crap most of the game (7 turnovers?). 6 of the 9 guys that played are freshman or sophomores. Battled. Grinded the game out like veterans. MADE FREE THROWS. Stayed composed. Even had a little swagger at times.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.14.14 @ 11:23 pm

I heard what happened in Atlanta since the mid 1990’s. They took over Buckhead !

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:23 pm

Jamie knows how to attack the ‘cuse zone. Can the freshmen 4’s execute in the middle of the zone or will Patterson have to play the Nasir Robinson role? If he does, who is going to make plays on the perimeter?

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 01.14.14 @ 11:23 pm

A Win is a WIN. Unlike gymnastics, figure skating or diving, you don’t get style points in basketball.

Comment by Justinian 01.14.14 @ 11:24 pm

I’ve been criticalbof JR on the defensive front early this year and last (not ball handling or game management), so I pay attention to him a little more. I have to say that in the last few games his on ball foot movement looks much better. Is it coaching, film study or not great competition? Not sure but I have to give him credit recently.

Comment by htp123 01.14.14 @ 11:27 pm

Hey after being down by 3 at halftime we kicked their ass. Just had some problems closing it out since nobody wanted to get in front of that transfer putz from Tenn. Or get up in his face.

GREAT WIN BY PITT ON THE ROAD IN HOSTILE TERRITORY FOR YANKEES. BELIEVE ME !

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:27 pm

They still remember the blue & gold of Sherman’s troops in Atlanta.

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:28 pm

Good win. Not worried about the end….GT did a good job extending the game. Really impressed with Patterson – not his night but he didn’t force anything. Robinson and Zanna awesome tonight.

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 01.14.14 @ 11:28 pm

Emel – Dyke city it is!! Doris Burke was playing one of them.

Still, lots of lessons to learn as Pitt adusts to life with Duran Duran. On the road in the ACC you need to put teams away HARD! If not the refs will kill you. Now finally for a Big East Game Saturday.

Like our chances! Pitt has always handled the 2-3 zone well. For sure Cuse will not doulbe team Patterson (they play zone only) as he led the team in assists tonight. Great game by Zanna….best game ever by Robinson!

Comment by Dan 72 01.14.14 @ 11:28 pm

We play them in Pgh. we win by 25 +

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:29 pm

Pittsburgh is not nearly Boston. (Yankee)

Comment by xfmrman 01.14.14 @ 11:30 pm

Lot of praise to JR & Z. Lamar used his head MY growing up fast. Z’s play complete surprise to me, didn’t know he’d be this good. Fluid, quick to the hoop, aggressive. Dramatic improvement from even last year. Between MY LP & Z we could have the middle zone breaker vs Syracuse. Very proud of this team. Damn tough to win at GT. Didn’t have a great game, still scored 80 and played well enough to win.

Comment by Old School Panther 01.14.14 @ 11:31 pm

Exactly the type of win we need on the road. Tough challenge is what we need to toughen up for the end of the year. Win on the road is golden.

Top 20!

Comment by Pittscript 01.14.14 @ 11:31 pm

Yep that was JR’s best game ever.

16 points, 5 assists, 4 steals, 3 rebounds only 1 turnover.

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:32 pm

Great team win, which sets up a critical matchup this Saturday. Do we have what it takes? Maybe, maybe not. I know we’ll be prepared, and just hope our shot is falling a bit better than tonight. If we dig ourselves a hole against the orange, it’s likely one we won’t climb out of.

4-0 in the conference. 6th place? Okay.

Comment by MikePitt 01.14.14 @ 11:32 pm

Also..Emel, cool it with the cheerleader trash talk, particularly with that word, which many find offensive.

Keep the trash talk clean and fair, and keep it to the players if you must.

Comment by MikePitt 01.14.14 @ 11:34 pm

What a difference refs make! Phantom calls! It is the one thing I don’t like about basketball. It was not that close a game. I was hoping Chris Jones would show up. He may be a year away. Hope he gives us some good minutes soon.

My two sons are Cuse grads. (I liked the dorm situation better.) Saturday will be fun.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 01.14.14 @ 11:35 pm

Good, good win, especially on the road, and with a biggie looming in a few days.

Excellent.

Gonna need a 3 baller sometime, I guess Lamar can be that guy if needed, and even part of his game.

No bitchin’, nice win in Hotlanta!!!

Comment by Dan 01.14.14 @ 11:36 pm

Z had 22 points (8-10 fg), 9 rebounds, 1 steal

Lamar was just great on some passes and did finish in double figures, 12 pts, 7 assists, probably 7 more hockey assts., 6 rebounds, 2 steals.

And Cam had a great 2nd half, finished with: 14pts., 4 assts, 2 rebounds and 1 steal

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:36 pm

38-18 rebounds, huge.

Comment by xfmrman 01.14.14 @ 11:37 pm

On a night when Patterson was a bit off, and the team was adapting to the loss of DJ, great to see Zanna and Robinson step up. That’s what good teams have to do, different guys lead. Gotta give Tech credit for hanging in, they could’ve folded like NC St. and the Terps did.

It wasn’t a thing of beauty – too many turnovers, only 67% FTs – but 57% shooting, and out rebounding a good rebounding team 38-18, pretty impressive.

Chris Jones only 4 minutes, so looks like he won’t be taking too many of DJs minutes. Looking forward to the Orange…H2P.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.14.14 @ 11:40 pm

Let’s see how long it takes ESPN to post our game link on their front page.

Comment by Emel 01.14.14 @ 11:41 pm

So when do we get to hear the Four Freshmen (Artis, Jones, Newkirk and Young) sing harmony?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.14.14 @ 11:43 pm

I’m offended that we’re out of banana’s in this house!!

Comment by Dan 01.14.14 @ 11:49 pm

Talib Zanna as my player of the game with JR right behind him.

Pitt had as many offensive rebounds as GT had defensive rebounds. Same as WF game. Interesting. Perhaps my rebounding fears were mistaken.

JR only in second season with best game ever. Had a pretty good line against MD last week too.

Comment by Barvo 01.14.14 @ 11:56 pm

@ Keith, Like you, I also had few expectations at the beginning of the season, but Pitt has proven, by their play, that they are a deep, agressive team, playing typical tough Pitt defense yet again this year.

I was leary early on, even with their undefeated early OOC wins, that when we got tested in the conference that there might be trouble, but I’ve seen the Panthers play tough in the face of adversity all season long when it presents itself.

A matter of fact, if Patterson didn’t get cold at the free throw line against Cincy at the end we’d be top 10 and still undefeated tonight!

This team has what it takes to FINALLY do something in the big dance come March. A win on Saturday would be icing on the ACC cake after this road win, while passing the midpoint of the season.

Come on Keith, its OK to believe!

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.15.14 @ 12:07 am

Great tune-up game for Syracuse. Road wins are always good wins.

Comment by xfmrman 01.15.14 @ 12:08 am

Young and Wright got Johnson’s minutes tonight:

Young played 14 against Wake Forest, 28 tonight.

Wright played 26 against Wake Forest, 35 tonight.

Comment by Howard 01.15.14 @ 12:09 am

@Howard, nice stats and info.

Thanks for sharing.

Comment by Dan 01.15.14 @ 12:13 am

@Howard, nice stats and info.

Thanks for sharing.

Comment by Dan 01.15.14 @ 12:13 am

This was nothing like the NC State game. The Wolfpack quit.

GT fought and scrapped throughout. Great exposure for the freshmen and Randall (although a junior, I consider him stunted because of the Rutgers fiasco).

This was Youngs best game. Although not perfect, he showed more effort on D and hit his free-throws when it mattered.

Comment by xfmrman 01.15.14 @ 12:16 am

Big East game in Saturday folks! Oh how I miss that league ! The ACC is just not up to snuff from top to bottom . It is really going to hit home in march when he head to Greensboro instead of MSG 🙁

I was at the game to tonight and it just didn’t feel like the games from the old BE. The dislike of teams hasn’t developed. Oh how we hated this nova and g town teams. It was visceral.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 01.15.14 @ 1:10 am

@Howard. Good look on the minutes research. I think Young got most of Durand’s minutes and Cam got some of Newkirk’s. Newkirk played 17 and 18 minutes the two previous games, only 12 minutes tonight and very few in the second half.

@PittAtlanta as we continue smacking ACC teams in the mouth on their home courts there will be much dislike aimed in our direction.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.15.14 @ 1:33 am

“There is a certain level of toughness, and then there is Pittsburgh” – Brian Gregory, Ga Tech HC

Comment by wbb 01.15.14 @ 7:17 am

I think game conditions and opponents will dictate who gets the extra minutes with Durand’s loss. Obviously, JR was playing great so it was wise to keep him at point, and Young was getting some key rebounds .. and both of them are who you want at the foul line in the last 2 minutes.

Comment by wbb 01.15.14 @ 7:21 am

Bring on Cuse…next.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.14 @ 7:27 am

@wbb
Brian Gregory quote – where was that from ?

Comment by TVax 01.15.14 @ 7:43 am

Thoughts from last nite:

I think some; including me thought Zanna was soft. He’s proving us wrong.

Chris Jones isn’t quite ready to fill in as sixth man.

Why do we wait until the other team has a chance to set up their press at the end of the game? If we hurry we can inbound to one of our guards and catch the defense in transition and break it just by shear speed dribbling up the court and elude the trap. Why do we come out of the time out in these situations with such a poor plan? Is it coaching or just bad execution?

So far the minutes from DJ are going to the starting five – see Howard’s post above.

The bench did fine and can score if they take the shots. Last night they were 5 for 7 from the field. JD is going to have to let them loose and see if they can produce in larger numbers. They also had only one TO.

Robinson will have to look for his shot in the future just like last night.

Don’t get too excited if we hit some bumps in the road in the near future – we are a work in progress.

Comment by virgil 01.15.14 @ 7:53 am

@@@@@@

GT game:

Robinson is capable of scoring; showed last night
Pitt cannot afford to have Zanna in foul trouble; Randall is
big but adds very little
We miss DJ big time
Big Bill Fralic sitting behind our bench
Winning on the road is huge; on to Syracuse

Comment by JR 01.15.14 @ 8:28 am

Is it me or is this the first team in 20 years that can actually hit free throws in the final minute of the game?

ACC folks are starting to see enough film of us to find chinks in our armor. Hopefully our guys continue to get better.

Where did this Zanna guy come from? I don’t remember seeing him last week? I almost had visions of DeJuan Blair.

Comment by Yeti 01.15.14 @ 8:40 am

Was at the game as well. At least two, if not three phantom fouls called on us in the last four minutes put Tech right back in it. Otherwise we win by double digits. Nonetheless a road great win against a team that played hard and had a pretty decent crowd.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 01.15.14 @ 8:43 am

Pitt is fine at handling the press. Pitt only had 1 turnover in the final minute and that was by Mike Young. If you take away Lamar’s unusual sloppiness with the ball, Pitt only had 1 turnover in the last 15 minutes of the game.

Why do you need to let the bench loose when your starters are being highly productive and are better than the bench? I’d rather have Lamar shooting than letting bench guys have more shots. Newkirk is a promising freshman, but he still is a freshman and prone to mistakes. Robinson on the other hand is ridiculous at not making mistakes.

Comment by Wardapalooza 01.15.14 @ 8:51 am

TVax, I saw it on a Paul Zeise tweet on the PG. Pretty sure it was fro the post-game presser

Comment by wbb 01.15.14 @ 9:23 am

Atlanta Panther, I can confirm by watching replays that all 3 were phantom calls … the ones on Young and Zanna were rdiculous … and I don’t think it was called by the ref who was standing in from of the GT bench who was not even closes to the plays

Comment by wbb 01.15.14 @ 9:26 am

I was surprised Artis was a bit invisible last night. Young sure as hell stepped it up a notch. He’s going to be a special player – what a great shooting touch. All he has to work on is D and finishing. With that FT stroke – he most certainly could be deadly w/ the 8 ft jumper.

Comment by John Ramella 01.15.14 @ 9:42 am

For all those who trashed us after the NCAA”S last yr. Wichita St. is undefeated this yr.

Comment by alcofan 01.15.14 @ 9:55 am

Wow – The hoops team looks really good. Credit to Dixon and the Kids. Keep it up.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.15.14 @ 3:11 pm

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