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November 14, 2013

Effecting A Zone

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 7:20 am

When a team throws out an effective zone defense it can surprise both the other team and the the fans. That’s what Pitt did to Fresno State on Tuesday night.

Pitt has used the zone increasingly in the last few years. The results have not always been as effective. In that lost 2011-12 season, the zone was used more out of desperation than anything else. It did not go well. No, it did not.

Last year Pitt would use the zone effectively in small bursts. Just to change things up if a team was getting too many easy buckets. But quickly they would drop back into the man defense.

On Tuesday Fresno State started off with some hot shooting from the outside and good penetration against Pitt’s perimeter defense. A little more than four minutes in and down five points, Pitt switched to a 2-3 zone and Fresno State scored only 5 points the rest of the first half. Initially it was the surprise of facing a zone, when they clearly didn’t expect anything but man-to-man defense.

“They did something that we hadn’t expected or seen a whole lot of,” Fresno State coach Rodney Terry said. “They played a little zone defense. Over the years, they’ve been a really good man-to-man team. But they did a great job with their zone, and it really affected us and kind of took us out of the rhythm of what we were doing early.”

After Fresno State (1-1) made 5 of its first 9 shots, including 3-pointers on its first two attempts, Pitt switched to the 2-3 zone to use its size advantage.

“They came out very strong,” Wright said. “They were hitting a lot of shots. We weren’t getting stops. We have a great coaching staff, and they adjusted. The 2-3 zone, I guess, worked for us in our favor, and we stuck with it. We’re very versatile. We can play one-on-one defense, and we can also play zone, and we rebound out of the zone, which is very important.”

That was a significant difference between previous attempts by Pitt to use the zone. While effective at times, a zone leaves you vulnerable to second chances on rebounds. Especially if you are a team that doesn’t use it a lot. Against Fresno, the Panthers were still able to get defensive rebounds.

The other reason the zone was more effective for Pitt than any time previously. The pieces fit much better.

Dixon said he began to consider using more zone a few years ago when the 3-point line was moved back a foot and used it more last year for a variety of reasons.

He said the combination of personnel and the new emphasis on foul calls and hand-checking has made it clear to him that they could play a lot more zone defense this year and this was a good time to start.

“I was obviously really happy with the first half and how we responded after being down,” Dixon said. “The zone was good for us. I think we have the personnel for it and our man-to-man was not where it needed to be.

“I had a feeling we would have to use some zone because they would be hard to guard with their four guards.

“But we have bigger guards than we ever have in James [Robinson] and Cameron [Wright] and we have pretty good size and athleticism. The only question was whether we could — and can — rebound out of it, and we obviously did a good job there, as well.”

You can expect to see a lot of teams use zone defenses this year. Almost out of necessity. As Coach Dixon notes, with the rule changes emphasis to increase flow and offense, zone defenses will be popular. Especially against teams with quick guards.

And the biggest difference for Pitt in their zone is that their backcourt is much longer than it has (ever?) been. Not just Wright and Robinson. Durand Johnson — who not only looks like he is trying on defense, but is playing it well — Josh Newkirk and Lamar Patterson. That size on the perimeter makes playing a zone much more effective. More ground can be quickly covered and passing lanes clogged.

And it isn’t just the backcourt fits a zone better. The frontcourt with Talib Zanna, Mike Young, Derrick Randall and Jamel Artis work well in it because they are athletic enough to get rebounds in the zone. Pitt piled up 48 rebounds. The frontcourt grabbed 30 of them. And that is with Fresno St. launching 45% of their shots from beyond the 3-point line.

The rebounding by Pitt despite the zone defense becomes more impressive when you realize that they held Fresno St. to 37% shooting — lots of misses — but Fresno St. only managed 5 offensive rebounds.

It isn’t that Pitt is going to be a zone defense team. They now have the personnel to use it effectively, and Coach Dixon is taking advantage of it.

After that, I’m cautious about drawing too much from the game. Fresno State was completely overmatched. Pitt blew them out despite an 0-11 on 3-point shooting night.

Individual play that is worth noting.

Durand Johnson. I already mentioned that he is actually playing defense with energy this year. I’m also pleased with him on offense. He is not looking to launch the minute the ball hits his hands (though, he did have one of those shots in the game). He’s passing the ball, and he’s attacking the basket. He looks like a much more complete player this year.

Cam Wright. Is it possible to be awkward and comfortable at the same time? He’s athletic as hell, but there is something almost angular to his movements that makes him look not quite right. In a game where we describe things in terms of flow, rhythm, motion, and so on; Wright is none of those things. He’s jerky, disruptive, almost flailing at times. Yet, it is with control and purpose. It works in his game and it fits into the team.

Mike Young. Really impressed with him, and I know it’s not going to be the Big East any longer, but I have a little worry about him physically holding up for an entire season. He looks so skinny in the frontcourt.

 





also impressed with Artis – he can play the 3 or the 4, and like Young, doesn’t appear to be overmatched despite being a natural frosh

Wright reminds me a little of Antonio Graves. Not the most graceful, but always working hard and often effective.

Comment by wbb 11.14.13 @ 7:38 am

I know they haven’t played anyone, but to me they just look better. Good flow, passing, positioning, speed and hustle. They look like a team.

Individually, they look like the know what they are doing.

See how well it holds up under pressure, but they have a nice combination of experience and youth.

Just a gut feeling. A lot to look forward to.

Comment by gc 11.14.13 @ 7:47 am

“Effecting a Zone” is exactly what the Man named House is doing differently than what “the Hux” did a year ago.

Wait a minute. You’re talking about basketball?

Comment by PittofDreams 11.14.13 @ 8:34 am

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Comment by PittofDreams 11.14.13 @ 8:46 am

I just have to say that as great as the football coverage on this site is, the basketball coverage is what really puts Pitt Blather over the top for me as far as being the best Pitt blog around. There are so many nuances to the game of basketball, and Chas just chews them up and cohesively spits them out in a way that any average fan can understand and enjoy!

Comment by JCE 11.14.13 @ 9:14 am

I hope Pitt uses the zone more in the noncon so it can be used effectively against the big boys. In the past they only pulled it out when they were getting lit up or were in foul trouble. They didn’t execute it particularly well & they ended up going back to man pretty quickly. Man D is still going to be their bread & butter, but it’s nice to know they can get in the zone & be effective. You have to be versatile with the new emphasis on the hand checks & playing all new opponents.

Comment by Nick 11.14.13 @ 9:28 am

Great assessment, Chas. And JCE is dead on. As for Wright, he has definitely turned into a solid overall player. I suspect that there will be multiple games this year where it’s Wright making the big plays, on both ends of the floor, late in games to secure wins.

Comment by Carmen 11.14.13 @ 9:32 am

@gc, I have the exact same feeling about this group, particularly on offense. It isn’t that they have anyone who can dominate, but still they are going right to it and show a certain confidence to engage that was absent last year. Last years offense was like watching a turtle on it’s back. So far this has been refreshing.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 9:36 am

@Nick, I thought the Big Z looked real sharp in the middle of that zone. We will need to be good at the zone as we are going to have games when we need to protect players in foul trouble. Dixon said that we have better length at the guard position and that helps make it effective. I think the defense fits this group well and bet we see a lot more of it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 9:45 am

I think the change in the charge call interpretation might benefit us more than it hurts, as our bigs can get away with some clumsiness inside that used to draw a whistle. Talib got away with what used to be a charge against the Bulldogs. Instead of a turnover we can get a 3 point play. I love it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 9:52 am

One note about Young. It was reported that he arrived at Pitt badly out of shape, so much so that he had trouble dunking at the time. He lost 20 pounds and got in game shape. That “skinny” look is apparently by design. H2P!

Comment by longsufferingpittfan 11.14.13 @ 10:37 am

Saw Young in Greentree, he certainly did NOT appear to be 30lbs overweight to me.

I love his game. He is the most skilled four Pitt has had in a long, long time. He can dribble, drive, pass, shoot (3 point range), post up, rebound and defend (both post and perimeter). He is really only lacking experience and strength/explosiveness. If he puts on 15lbs of muscle, which looks possible on his frame, LOOK OUT!

Having Randall to bang with bigs should free him up, too.

I would not be surprised if he is Pitt’s best player come tournament time.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 11.14.13 @ 11:02 am

Does anyone have any insight into weight training/diet/fitness coaching and who handles that responsibility at Pitt? Over the years several players have made impressive physical transformations. That doesn’t just happen by accident yet we never hear it discussed. I think this is a very vital area to team performance and would appreciate any imput Blatherites might be able to offer.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 11:08 am

Longsuffering: I think you’re referring to Artis, actually.

Comment by PatMac 11.14.13 @ 11:16 am

Having to go to a zone out of necessity against Fresno is not a good sign.

Very few, if any, great defensive teams play BOTH man and zone. Usually, great teams have one primary defense, and maybe throw something else out there as a change of pace.

While I like the idea of playing zone for all the reasons mentioned, I am worried that playing too much of it will take away from their man defense. This team is very young and inexperienced. There is only so much practice time (and scrimmage rime, aka the non-con schedule) available to work on defense. Every minute they spend on zone, takes away from something else.

The aggressive man to man, switching and doubling all over the half court, looked to have the potential to be really, really good. But it requires a lot of teamwork, communication and PRACTICE. They absolutely have the personnel to play that brand of man to man.

I would prefer they play 90% man in these early “scrimmages”, get good at it, then mix in the zone later. The zone is like a great side dish at thanksgiving dinner, the man to man is the turkey.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 11.14.13 @ 11:24 am

This years freshman seem better prepared to contribute than what we have traditionally seen. Both Young and Artis look ready now and Newkirk doesn’t look lost by any means. Robinson showed up ready last year but I think you have to go back to Krauser previously and I think that was because he had an “extended” high school career. Wasn’t he about 27 when he graduated?

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 11:32 am

PatMac you’re right. My bad.

Comment by longsufferingpittfan 11.14.13 @ 11:42 am

Boubacar, Your comments concerning the zone make sense but holding Fresno St to 54pts. is pretty impressive no matter how it was done. We didn’t sit on the ball to run time either. Dixon claimed he had spent a lot of practice time on the zone. He also wasn’t as pleased with how we played it in the second half. My guess is it was working so well though, that he was kind of forced to continue. Did it seem that way to you?

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 11:43 am

If I recall, they actually came out with a zone in the first possession, then switched to man, then switched back to zone- pretty much for good.

This is the longest, perhaps most versatile and athletic Pitt team I can recall. Johnson, Young, and Artis- from a distance- have the same lean athletic builds. Cam Wright stretches well. Newkirk has a nice bounce to him and James Robinson looks a lot more fit.

The last couple of years we needed to switch to zone primarily as a reaction to how poorly we were playing man. This year’s team can make that switch more proactively and see results. It’s not a bad thing to be able to play different types of defense.

I am, thus far, REALLY impressed with the team that Dixon has put together. We’ve played some creampuffs for sure, but the new guys reveal an emphasis on recruiting better athletes. Young has looked poised and skilled. Besides being a hard working rebounder, he seems to actually have both a face up and back to the rim game. Probably needs to work on them both against better competition, but he’s not starting from scratch. And he had some nice passes as well. He can even handle the ball some too. Artis- is he Young’s clone? I mean, he doesn’t look much different or far behind.

Love what Randall has shown so far. Wants to rebound, not a bad passer. Doesn’t make stupid fouls. He arrives with some of the rough edges already sanded off.

Who’s going to pick up JJ Moore’s shot attempts? Looks like Durand Johnson. I think he still has a lot of “chucker” in him, but I agree with Chas he looks good. Feisty and long on defense and aggressive on offense. Great 6th-man.

Excited about what we can do this season. There are some intriguing lineups that Coach can throw out there.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 11.14.13 @ 12:06 pm

…in the 2nd half, Fresno made some better adjustments. They put a man in the high post (similar to what we do against Syracuse) and they looked to make long passes to the back of the zone when it sagged forward. So there were a couple of easy looks. All this, combined with natural decline in energy that comes with a lead, led so some lapses.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 11.14.13 @ 12:09 pm

I noticed even during the Savannah St game that they played a good bit of zone (and stayed in it) out of inbounds plays underneath. To me, that’s a sign that Dixon intends to incorporate it more this season no matter what, not just that it was a singular reaction to Fresno St’s early success.

Comment by JW 11.14.13 @ 1:39 pm

Didn’t see the beginning of the 2nd half vs. Fresneck, but it would have been interesting if JD came back up in the 2nd half with the Man D.

Here the Fresneck coach spent the whole halftime showing them how to run their offense against the zone and PITT comes out in the Man.

Confuse the heck out of them. Then at some point in the 2nd half you switch back into the Zone.

Would also like to see Pitt play the 1-3-1 trap on occasion, to see if they can force a turnover.
Another wrinkle, something else, anything to cause confusion or uncertainty against the enemy opposition. In that big game, when one turnover leading to a hoop is the difference in the game.

We’ve been on the receiving end of some of those, I’d like to see us get more proactive, rather than reactive.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 1:45 pm

One thing I can say for sure is that Dixon has adjusted his “system” more to his talent this year more than I have ever seen him adjust. Some of it may be in response to the league change and some may be due to officiating changes.

There is no doubt that they are running more fast break offense by design and playing different defensive schemes. Even the zone looked different than last year’s 2-3. And I too, have been impressed with the coaching job Dixon has done so far.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 11.14.13 @ 1:58 pm

Emel, Wright was able to catch a couple breakaway hoops off the zone. It wasn’t from traps though. He intercepted passes out front. We are a long armed team and we might be wise to be playing a lot of some kind of zone. I don’t much care what defense we use as long as it works. There were games last year when it didn’t. Marquette (2) Notre Dame, and Witchita St come to mind.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 2:01 pm

I love a good zone.

* Keeps your bigs under the boards where they belong
* Eliminates most all the switches on screen
* Forces teams to shoot from the outside
* Eliminates a lot of the one on one crap these kids thrive on. ie. Dribble penetration
* Cuts down on fouls 25 feet from the hoop on switches. Nothing was more frustrating than watching Aaron Gray, Gary McChee, DeJuan Blair, and Steve Adams picking up touch fouls 25 feet from the hoop.
* Easier to control, that one great player the other team has. Example we had no one who could stop Dwayne Wade, one on one, a good zone might have.
* Easier to disrupt passes in the passing lanes that can lead to turnovers.
* If teams have quicker guards than yours, they can be more easily defended in a zone.

In summary, Pitt only gets so far against better teams, especially in the Big Dance, when all teams are playing hard, because when matched up one on one in a Man defense, the really good teams have better players, better athletes. And that gap is further widened if you’re trying to defend those better players with lesser players in a Man defense.

A well played Zone is the Great Equalizer.

We might go further in the Big Dance if we learn how to play it very well.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 2:02 pm

@Emel, Julius Page was one of the best defenders we ever had but he couldn’t stop Wade. In his defense the only thing that stopped Wade was an NBA contract. At least we made him put on a show ,and he sure did. I really can’t blame that one on Dixon or the man to man.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 2:10 pm

right sos22

I use to play the top of the zone all the time and always picked off several opponent passes a game which led to easy layups, etc.

If you have really active players on the top, like Wright you can really cause havoc for the other team. Get some easy turnovers and easy points.

And we’ve all watched Pitt for long enough, when they sometimes go long long stretches in games where they really struggle to score points.

Getting easy points is something I think we can do with active long players on top of the zone.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 2:14 pm

Well no disgrace by Page, Pitt had no NBA players on that team. Wade is not only an NBA player, but an NBA all-star and one of the Top 5 players in the league and has been.

Would have been interesting if PITT would have had a good zone back then to see what would have happened.

Temple’s matchup Zone with lesser players always caused problems for opponents in the Big Dance.

Pitt’s going to be facing quicker, faster players in the ACC compared to the more physical Big East. In a Man defense, your lack of quickness is further exposed. I think JD probably recognizes that fact and is preparing for it.

A Zone defense can camouflage your lack of quickness and you’re not as susceptible to that one opposing playing you can’t quite matchup with who goes off for a huge game. We’ve seen that more than a few times.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 2:27 pm

@Emel, You are absolutely right which brings us to the next logical step. Time to revisit the best zone of all time. Break out the amoeba. I heard they have it stored in locker 37AA at Fitzgerald Field House. Send a ball boy over to grab it, dust it off and roll it out for about 22 wins in arrow like the “73 kids did. I bet Buzz Ridl and Franny Webster would even help kick a couple balls loose in the Duke game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 3:26 pm

^arrow= a row^

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 3:27 pm

lol sos22

Maybe JD will bring back Gurgs to implement it.

Worked for UNLV in 1990-1991.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 3:37 pm

I remember our 1980 team giving the Tarholes fits in a 2nd round NCAA game with a variant of the amoeba in the 1rst half. They had James Worthy and Sam Perkins, we had Sam Clancy.

We had them really spooked in the 1rst half, so much so that Dean Smith lobbied for the game ball to be changed. And unbelievably the refs did !

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 3:41 pm

Believe Fran Webster is still alive … as is T Ggurich who brought the Amoeba to UNLV

Comment by wbb 11.14.13 @ 3:54 pm

wbb, Fran Webster is alive only in our hearts I am sorry to say. I talked to his son a couple years ago who lives in Las Vegas. Coaches still call him to get copies of Fran’s book. I was only joking but I bet Dixon would have a lot of success with the Amoeba.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 4:02 pm

@Emel, I seem to remember that too. Clancy always gave the best big men of the era all they could handle. I really resent that his number isn’t retired. He was as good a player as I have ever saw at Pitt, for or against.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 4:07 pm

Yep I believe the game was in El Paso and we also had Dwayne Wallace on that team, it was he who hit the game winning shot in the 1rst round win over Idaho. Carlton Neverson was a long althetic guard who played on the perimeter, perfect fit for the amoeba variant, 1-3-1 we played. Wallace ran the baseline. Sammy Ellis was a forward, Sam Clancy was a beast underneath.

Agree Sam’s number should be retired. He’s got to be way up their in all-time rebounds.

Comment by EMel 11.14.13 @ 4:17 pm

Sam is the only player to average over 10 rebounds a game for 4 seasons. He is second in games started behind Smith. He is one of only 3 to start every game of his career. He gathered 1342 career rebounds Pitt’s all time leader.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 4:43 pm

I don’t comment very often but I try to read most of the comments on here as long as it’s not a rant or an attack…

Because of this, I know a lot of people were voting Cam Wright off the team when we were going through the transfer/recruiting turmoil recently – even after he shot about 50% from the floor last year. I invite any of you who are man/woman enough to eat your words on that one. He could and probably will be one of our best players this year.

I was nervous just like the rest of you coming into this year because of all the new pieces (freshman, transfers, redshirts) but I have been pretty impressed with what I’ve seen so far. I never thought I would see a Dixon team that wasn’t rooted in halfcourt, 35 second offense. But we are running in transition and attacking the paint early in the shot clock regularly now. Although we didn’t shoot well on pullups the other night, I think this might be one of the better shooting teams we’ve had in a long while. Heck – in the exhibition games I remember seeing a few side P&R sets for Artis which he hit comfortably.

Trying not to get too far ahead of myself but I like where this team is going right now.

Comment by Levance's Headband 11.14.13 @ 4:57 pm

Headband, I remember being part of rumors of him leaving shortly after we found out JJ and Zeigler were leaving. I was upset to hear that he might quit on us but figured we would get by with what was left. I don’t recall anyone on this site voting Cam off or anyone wishing he would leave. I don’t think anyone was expecting him to show so much improvement either. If you were I would appreciate hearing from you more often because we would enjoy the insight. The rumors I heard came via JohnJohnson the guard who transferred to Penn St. He was saying something was wrong at Pitt and Wright would also leave. Looks like the rumors were wrong. It sounded legit to me because it was like an Exodus around here for awhile. Turns out it was just noise. Things sure are looking a lot better now and I think you are right about Cam. I have found that most posters here are pretty reasonable about owning up when they are wrong. I love what we have seen so far too.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 5:43 pm

Lets not pack Wright on the back till they play a good defensive team and he has to make some shots.

Comment by alcofan 11.14.13 @ 8:38 pm

Alcofan, You can wait as long as you like but I am very impressed with what he has shown so far, and I am expecting him to do a lot better job than Woodall. I think he will and am willing to stick my neck out a little bit based on what I see. This might be a big year for Cam.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.14.13 @ 8:57 pm

Attended both regular season games and was pleasantly surprised both nights. The backcourt IS as big as it has been the last several years. James Robinson is a legit 6’2″ and Cam Wright is 6’3″. They are also strong guards as well. The zone will be very effective if they commit to it and play it aggressively. Although Zanna is a very good rebounder, it will have to be a team effort on the defensive end.

Offensively it is difficult to draw any conclusions from these two games. Both teams just didn’t have the personnel to challenge Pitt inside. The guards did a decent job attacking and getting to the rim. I am concerned about dribble penetration against a strong defensive team. Josh Newkirk has the quickness to do some of that, but he is very young and isn’t strong enough to finish at this stage in his career.

We have some players that can shoot in Durand Johnson, Newkirk, Mike Young, and Cam Wright from the mid-range. I am interested to see how the team evolves offensively. I anticipate some struggles on that end from time to time.

We will see how the team develops over the next several weeks. The non-conference schedule is very weak, therefore Pitt can win a lot of games early and get confidence. That’s not a terrible thing with this team. Confidence is important.

I believe Pitt can make the NCAA Tournament with this team. I will be very happy with that result given the tumultuous off season.

Comment by Omar 11.14.13 @ 9:16 pm

A few more things: Randall has looked great the first two games. He is a huge addition for this team. Adds legitimate depth without a precipitous drop off. Also, if an opponent has size Randall can play the 5 and Zanna can man the 4. That look might also work if Pitt needs to offensive rebound. Randall has finished pretty well so far as well.

Finally, Steve Adams is playing phenomenally well in the NBA. That is nice to see for the big guy. The encouraging thing is to see how much he learned at Pitt. He is asked to do much of the same things that he did at Pitt and is performing at a high level. Adams was lost the first two months of the season. Pitt did a fine job with his development and he should feel very good about his decision to attend the university.

Comment by Omar 11.14.13 @ 9:28 pm

@Omar, Does Randall look like he could be effective as a starter by next year?

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.15.13 @ 9:19 am

The hope is that Uchebo is 100% by this time next year. Uchebo, prior to the injury, had NBA level potential/ability. There’s no guarantee that he’ll be fully recovered.

Randall certainly could be an adequate starter this year or next, if Uchebo isn’t the answer.

Dixon needs to recruit a center for the 2015 class, if not 2014.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 11.15.13 @ 11:15 am

Adams looks really good so far. He has started the last two games. He’ll have his ups and downs but he’s quickly shown that he made a prudent decision. Good for him. And glad that Hasheem Thabeet can watch him from the bench…

On Pitt, I’m excited to see what Cam Wright does this year. I rather like the type of angular athlete he is. He can use both hands, has really good body control, and he’s a surprisingly good finisher around the basket. He seems to have a real look in his eye to want to prove he is a baller. His handle seems better too. Hoping this is his leap year.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 11.15.13 @ 11:21 am

@SilverPanther, Smart, unselfish, and he obviously has worked his tail off to be showing such huge improvement. He could be a difference maker this year. Cam Wright could be a huge improvement at the 2 guard.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.15.13 @ 12:10 pm

Randall, I presume, would have to be a McGhee type … hardworking rebounder and defender, whose main offense would come from putbacks. If you have enough offensive weapons, this could work

Comment by wbb 11.15.13 @ 12:25 pm

wbb, McGhee was more productive than Adams, I think Zanna and Randall will be as well. I think Wright will be more productive than Woodall too. Young and Artis should be able to cover Zanna and Moore’s contribution at the 4 which tells me this team could be better than last years. We also are facing a softer schedule. This could be a pretty good year.

Comment by spiritofsection22 11.15.13 @ 12:50 pm

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