It’s not that I hate that DeAndre Kane is transferring to Pitt. Afterall, he is intending to be a graduate transfer so it is a one-year deal. Meaning he isn’t tying up the scholarship beyond 2013-14. That is assuming he passes the two courses he has to take, but why worry about academics with Kane. I mean he only needed an extra year of prep school and still wasn’t able to be academically eligible at Marshall (!?) as a freshman. How could anyone be worried?
Well, there are chemistry/personality issues.
It’s just a hunch, but I reckon Kane didn’t receive a letter of recommendation from Herrion after last month’s falling out.
Just in case you felt the statement from Tom Herrion on Kane leaving was nebulous.
Marshall coach Tom Herrion cut loose DeAndre Kane because he was tired of his act.
Now, just because he and Herrion clashed is not enough to say he’s a big risk. Herrion, himself, can be quite prickly. Especially when the team struggles. And Marshall was a big disappointment last year.
Kane will have something to prove with Pitt.
He’d likely see significant playing time — if not start — right away. And he’d join a Panthers team headed into its first season in the ACC, which is becoming the hands-down best basketball conference in America. It’s miles ahead of either the old or new iteration of Conference USA, so if he wants a professional career, he’ll be trying to prove it among the best hoops talent in the nation.
One of the issues with Kane is that he was a little too eager at times to score by himself — that he always needed the ball in his hand. As many assists as he dished (7.0/gm), he also lost it a lot (4.2 turnovers/gm). And then there are the other holes in his game.
He shot only 24.8 percent from 3-point range and 52.1 percent on free throws this past season but scored in double figures in 20 of 28 games, with seven games of 20 points or more and a season-high 33 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists against Hofstra.
My god, that’s Trey Zeigler music.
SEASON | TEAM | MIN | FGM-FGA | FG% | 3PM-3PA | 3P% | FTM-FTA | FT% | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
2012-13 | PITT | 15.5 | 1.8-4.1 | .444 | 0.0-0.1 | .000 | 0.8-1.6 | .490 | 2.0 | 1.2 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 1.7 | 1.1 | 4.4 |
2011-12 | CMU | 31.8 | 6.2-13.5 | .462 | 0.3-1.2 | .289 | 3.0-6.1 | .495 | 6.7 | 2.5 | 0.7 | 1.1 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 15.8 |
2010-11 | CMU | 34.4 | 6.2-15.6 | .395 | 0.8-2.5 | .329 | 3.2-5.6 | .566 | 5.4 | 2.1 | 0.9 | 1.4 | 2.7 | 3.3 | 16.3 |
And Kane:
SEASON | TEAM | MIN | FGM-FGA | FG% | 3PM-3PA | 3P% | FTM-FTA | FT% | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
2012-13 | MRSH | 37.1 | 5.5-13.6 | .403 | 1.1-4.5 | .248 | 3.1-5.9 | .521 | 4.4 | 7.0 | 0.2 | 1.8 | 2.7 | 4.2 | 15.1 |
2011-12 | MRSH | 34.0 | 5.9-14.3 | .414 | 0.9-3.6 | .250 | 3.7-6.2 | .599 | 5.4 | 3.5 | 0.3 | 1.4 | 3.2 | 3.0 | 16.5 |
2010-11 | MRSH | 31.6 | 5.0-11.7 | .428 | 1.4-4.5 | .318 | 3.6-5.8 | .633 | 5.6 | 3.4 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 2.9 | 3.4 | 15.1 |
I don’t see a huge upgrade in terms of Trey Zeigler to DeAndre Kane when you look at Zeigler’s numbers at Central Michigan and Kane’s at Marshall.
Fear inducing at the free throw line — especially for a wing guard. Lousy from outside the arc. Kane has better assists numbers, but also higher turnover figures.
Zeigler struggled at Pitt in two ways. He was overmatched by the rise in talent faced every night. He did not find his openings to attack the basket, on which his game depended. The other was that he just did not fit with the rest of the team. He was not comfortable on the perimeter moving the ball around. If he wasn’t heading north-south, he was useless.
In this respect, the bullishness of Kane might be a good thing. He wants to attack. He may do some selfish things with the ball, but maybe Pitt needs a little of that — with respect towards driving to the basket. Provided Kane is able to handle the upgrade in competition.
I understand that in many respects, Pitt and Dixon have to take this chance on Kane. And the local kid comes home storyline is appealing as hell. But make no mistake. This is not a risk-free situation. (And if it does, you know damn well I will go with “The Kane Mutiny” as a post headline.)
Never saw him play at Marshall but do remember some write-ups talking about his talent there … and I do remember him as being a really good player at Schenley .. so who knows’
I’m with Chas here, JD would be getting an experienced, talented player for 1 year … if he becomes a problem, then sit him or send him packing.
The guy that calls the players only meeting when things go south, the guy that wants the ball when the game is on the line…
If no one steps up, Kane could be the problem that Chas fears.
If no one steps up, we will lose a lot of games.
In the past we could say this is Knights team, or Wanamakers, or Fields or even X. We need that guy.
But hey that could have been the result of having not much help in the form of talented teammates at Marshall.
Surely Pitt will have better players surrounding him. Sort of. lol
Or on the other hand, does this kid drive a Hummer?
Coach Ditka might be on to something.
Pitt needs a penetrator. Maybe this guy
is it? Lets forget Ziegler. He was overmatched
and lost in the offensive scheme. Kane
has played a lot of BB. He is
physically mature. He fills a need
on a short term basis. Team needs a
guard who can penetrate. Now lets
turn Slice loose in NYC to find players.
I understand Chas tempering expectations, after all we are Pitt fans, but this kid will fit much better at the 2 than anyone we have on our roster other than Durand Johnson.
I would love to see a lineup that included Johnson and Kane on the floor at the same time, at the 2 and 3 spot.
And that placed Kane at Number 8 in the Country !
As long as he doesn’t have a Hummer 2. haha
This team is going to need some scorers, as we lost our leader scorer Woodie, Adams, Sleepy, Zeigler and Moore. So that group accounted for about 35 ppg. Got to replace that, Kane is a good start.
Maybe DeJuan will show up at more games since his old running mate will be balling with da Panthers.
🙂
VeV
Marshall’s leading score was a kid name Pittman.
Yep this will be a good thing for Pitt, it’s in the stars.
Im far from a Pederson fan, but Kane can play ball, and if you haven’t noticed, some of the ‘lesser’ conferences have put teams in the Final Four over the last few years, such as Wichita St.
So go ahead and trash Kane if you want, but know that you look foolish when you comment on a topic of which you clearly have no knowledge.
You do seem to have to have quite the handle on the baseball team. Perhaps you could keep those of us on this board who do not follow baseball as closely up to date on how their season is progressing.
you must not make a sq peg fit into a round hole
like they did to zeigler.
if kane is to help dixon must chane his system some what.
or he will just be another zeigler.
At this late date, Jamie’s options were pretty limited in finding someone who could make an immediate impact at that guard spot. And if he couldn’t bring someone in, He was faced with moving either a small forward or a point guard. Again, no sure thing.
I think the chemistry risk is huge. Red flags abound. First, he does dominate the ball and is a volume shooter. Second, he has NBA aspirations. Not a good fit with Pitt’s deliberate, share the ball offense. We saw what happened with Gibbs two years ago when the team struggled, Gibbs struggled and he realized his NBA dreams were fading…..he turned into a major chemistry problem.
But given his options, Jamie made the right decision to bring this kid in, as risky as it may be…we’ll see how it turns out. Boom or bust?
JD didn’t get a top-notch, natural SG for next year, and since that didn’t happen taking a chance on Kane had to be his fallback. All we can do is cross our fingers and hope he has finally gotten a clue about life.
In other news Dr. Tom I got zoom and my teeth hurt like a mother for 2 days.
Come on Upittbaseball, drink the kool aid, lol.
I have been traveling so I missed this. Nice to see a hard nosed Pitt player at Steelers Camp! Good Luck!!
will not be comeing no details
hope we did not turn some one down while waiting for him
a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
the same thing for ALI.
Maybe they got cold on him after signing Uchebo, but actually your right Frankie, he wouldn’t be a bad insurance policy.
i think it was his idea not to come they were
ready for him to be here.
Having trouble from the stats understanding what the “risk” on Kane is. It is not like kids are banging down our door right now. And while Hofstra is not in the ACC, I cannot remember the last time a Pitt player put up 30 against even St. Francis. The 7 assists per game for a big guard isn’t bad, either, and has to say something about his “selfishness.” Plus, the kid apparently will graduate in 3 years. That also has to tell you something, I would think. So he cannot shoot free throws? At least he won’t have to worry about being shown up by his teammates.
I am actually enthused about seeing this kid play.
With this, and with the addition of “Slice”, the first few months of the Dixon Decade are looking a little better. Perhaps provides us a ray of optimism for the next 9 years and 10 months.
I see Kane the same way. I really don’t like playing anyone at the 2G who lacks a 3-ball game and shoots FTs poorly.
But, I guess, as a 1-year “insurance policy” the pickup is at least okay since, like Zeigler, he would seem to have enough handle to help get the ball up court against teams that press continually (although I would hate to have him on the floor in late game situations where shootings FTs is critical).