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March 27, 2013

All the Chaos

Filed under: Football,Recruiting,Rumors,Transfer — Chas @ 3:00 pm

Okay. So it looks like there is just a little bit of turmoil at the moment.

Rushel Shell, who would be Pitt’s marquee running back in its inaugural season in the ACC, is considering transferring to another school and is meeting Wednesday with coach Paul Chryst, a source close to the team told the Tribune-Review.

Another source said Shell, a rising sophomore who was one of Pitt’s most prized recruits in many years, has not asked for his transfer papers. Shell and his mother Toni Zuccaro did not return telephone calls to the Tribune-Review. A university spokesman declined comment.

Yeah. It looks like that is going to happen. Not sure what happened to all the desire to be close to his daughters and all that stuff. Maybe it still is a factor. Maybe he changed his mind about that.

As to the why. Well

This all started when Shell had multiple disagreements with Head Coach Paul Chryst and his staff. Shell has said that apparently Chryst and his staff possibly have been talking about the players behind their backs. It all seems like things escalated very quickly and came out of no where, but it looks looks like Shell might just be as good as gone.

We were contacted by some of our Inside Pitt sources yesterday night about the news. Shell did not practice yesterday supposedly because of an “Excused absence” but in actuality Shell came to the UPMC facility and asked for his transfer papers, then proceeded to get on the Pitt players shuttle bus and go back to his dorm. Later that night, Shell addressed some of his teammates regarding his situation. As of last night Shell is set to transfer to a school in either California or Arizona.

Another source we spoke to last night, spoke to Shell’s family and said that Arizona State could possibly be the program to land Shell.

Ummmm. I don’t see Shell going to Arizona State. Not with the scorched earth policy of Todd Graham. Pitt has to release Shell, and there is no way I see them saying, :”Yeah, sure. Go join Fraud.”

We’ve all heard the rumors and reports going back to his high school days. That Shell hated putting in the practice. That he was averse to the weightroom. That even as a freshman at Pitt, he got into Chryst’s doghouse because of his (lack of) effort in practice.

Maybe that was part of it. Maybe when Devin Street was talking about passion and effort, he was taking a subtle shot at Shell.

Street was pretty honest after practice when talking about the passion and excitement level on this team Specifically, he spoke about recognizing that the little things Pitt does this spring will have ramifications on the field next fall.

“No, I don’t think there is enough,” Street said. “And that’s what we have to get to. There’s a passion about coming out here and playing, but there’s not a passion about doing everything right. I feel like guys love football, but we have to be willing to do all the right things, because all the right things will lead us to great things. It’s not just the big things; it’s the little things. It’s the film study, it’s going to class, it’s the little things that he’s telling us to do that we have to start buying into to come together and be a complete team.”

Maybe Shell changes his mind. It seems unlikely, and I’m not holding my breath. But at the same time, I’m not going to go full-on flamethrower on the kid when there isn’t enough info yet. Disappointed. Frustrated. But, going to wait.

Oh, and if that wasn’t enough. Deaysean Rippy is apparently also looking to transfer. To West Virginia no less. When Rippy chose Pitt in 2012, it was down to Pitt or WVU. He would be another loss. Not as obvious as Shell, but Rippy was a 4-star recruit. He was expected to be a help at linebacker. If not in contention to start.

The one thing that Rippy and Shell have in common is that they had a history in high school of people questioning their desire. Their motor and effort.

I don’t know if that is what is happening. That Chryst is weeding out players that don’t want to practice hard to earn the playing time. Regardless of their talent and potential.

That’s a nice narrative. I wouldn’t mind believing it. But, again, it is a little too soon to jump to that sort of conclusion.





It’s a sad situation. But reality is we don’t want or need these types of attitudes on the team. Period. End of story. All motives/reasons/excuses aside. Play hard or go home (or to California or Arizona or WV).

Comment by JJ 03.27.13 @ 3:08 pm

Pitt should only release them to a school lower in division. No way they get to leave for WVU or ASU.

Comment by notrocketscience 03.27.13 @ 3:14 pm

As long as a player sits out 1 full season they can transfer anywhere. There has to be more to this story.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.27.13 @ 3:19 pm

Where there is smoke there is fire…there is a lot more to this story…..

Comment by DJS 03.27.13 @ 3:26 pm

If they don’t want to be here, then I’d prefer if they’d transfer. Nothing worse than locker room cancers breeding negativity.

If there’s any truth to the whole “Coaches talking about players behind their backs” as a major reason for Shell leaving, well I guess I’m just stunned. What the hell does a player think coaches talk about? Of course they’re going to be discussing these guys, it’s their friggin jobs!

The program is more important than a few individuals. You hate to see highly touted talent leave, but at the end of day, you need and want kids that want to be there.

Comment by Kenny Powers 03.27.13 @ 3:29 pm

If he wants to transfer so be it. The cach cannot have multiple
sets of rules. Hope he stays and conforms to team rules
otherwise good luck in finding a school/coach who will
Employ a double standard.

Comment by JR 03.27.13 @ 3:29 pm

HCPC most likely wants him to stay but on his terms. Coach has drawn the proverbial line in the sand. You want to play games, you have to be dedicate to practice and improving your game.

Shells immaturity is self-evident. The talking about players behind their backs reason, don’t float with me. He may be a good to someday great RB but the junior don’t call the shots and as was said leaving someone with his state of mind on the team will ultimately be detrimental…

Comment by Kenny 03.27.13 @ 3:36 pm

how does the LOI release process work? pitt can designate ‘x’ # of schools it won’t release shell to??

Comment by scott 03.27.13 @ 3:42 pm

I have two words for Shell:

Maurice Clarett

Comment by dcpinpgh 03.27.13 @ 3:48 pm

Anybody out there ever come home after a long day in the trenches and say to the Mrs. “there has to be an easier way to make a living”. Yep, me too. Then the next day, up before dawn to prep for another day earning it. Some days are better than others but you gotta earn it every day.

Some teenagers don’t get that at the ripe old age of 18 or 19 just yet. Some never do.

All I know is the ones that get it early and invest in the concept usually turn out to be the successful ones in anything that they set their sites on as adults. Showing up and putting in the time makes all the difference in the world between success and failure.

Transfering = quitting in many instances. Different venue same rules of engagement. Hello, its called LIFE!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.27.13 @ 3:48 pm

Oh well. Khem Birch did so much better where he went. What did he average,5 to 7 points a game? Although the grass may look greener elswhere, it rarely is. If it’s about effort, then success anywhere will be difficult to achieve.

Comment by Justinian 03.27.13 @ 3:49 pm

We dont really know any of the why to this point, we might never.
But I believe in HCPC. Think Shell is young and probably about to make one of the biggest mistakes of life. Losing a year of playing when your a starter just makes no sense when you could be headed somewhere. Next thing you know you hurt a knee and youre 2 years removed from the game. Ask Tom Savage how much can go wrong with a transfer.

Comment by Orlando Truit 03.27.13 @ 3:51 pm

Jimmy Johnson who once coached at pitt said when he was the cowboy head coach that he cut a guy once for sleeping in a team meeting. The reporter then asked what would you do if that was Troy aikman who feel asleep. And his answer was go over to Troy and hit him and say wake up!!! Now I know there are certain rules for superstars but this is sophomore running back on a 6-7 football team! If he doesn’t have the heart to practice, he shouldn’t play! Bottom line! What message does that send to the team if he doesn’t have workout and practice like everyone else! I see a mini Maurice Claurett on our hands! I would love for him to stay! That game vs vt was so awesome! To see him mow down linebackers was special but he is no elite superstar yet! He is a sophomore running back competing for a starting job!

Comment by Sweet Caroline 03.27.13 @ 3:56 pm

Sounds like the weeds are trying to run the garden.I for one am willing to wait until all the players are Chryst recruits before making any big demands on success.I say get the clippers out coach and trim things up as neat as needed.We don’t need overated 19 year olds with huge reputations and no college accomplishments dictating how you do your job.What we do need is a set of reasonable rules and guidelines that will allow you to develop a winning team that shows some heart and character.If any of these kids don’t want to follow your plan feel free to make examples out of them no matter how big the reputation.We can live with the losses but we don’t need is a system that caters to losers.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 4:04 pm

Comment by steve1 03.27.13 @ 4:07 pm

gosh, i thought looking at spring ball would be nice after the SHOCKERS incident

Comment by HLandPitt 03.27.13 @ 4:08 pm

I have to admit that I am pleasantly surprised at the way the posters on here seem to be taking the news. When I first read the news.rumors I expected a sky is falling/end of the world reactions.

Good job, Pitt fans!

As for Shell, I agree that we don’t know nearly enough to make a judgement on reasons or causes. But the warning signs certainly point to certain conclusions.

I have wondered at Street’s and Chryst’s comments about attitude and heart and dedication and wondered who the problems were.

If I had to choose between talent and heart, I’d choose heart every time. It certainly helps when you have some players with both.

If Shell does leave, I wish him the best. For the sake of his family, he needs to give 100% whether it is in a Pitt uniform or not.

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 03.27.13 @ 4:09 pm

A coach can only have one set of rules. See Dave Wannstedt who had at least three sets. Very disturbing situation though. Never a dull day as a Pitt Fan.

Comment by Dan 72 03.27.13 @ 4:10 pm

i have read before if they want to transfer
you can block were they transfer to you dont have to let them out there loi
so if it is me i say no AZ SCHOOL.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.27.13 @ 4:45 pm

@steve1 – if that’s really Shell, he’s got a bit of a spare tire around the gut.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.27.13 @ 4:48 pm

If they want to go,let them go and move on.We don’t have to have vendettas aginst kids to be successful and I don’t see that as productive.Wish them well and move on.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 4:50 pm

No press conference scheduled

Comment by gc 03.27.13 @ 5:03 pm

I’m not sure how this doesn’t fit a consistent narrative — I feel like PC had some sort of history of turning marginal recruits into reliable D1A players. What could possible make that happen? I don’t know, maybe hard work, dedication and effort? If Shell coasts on talent, PC will crush him. I’d rather have a 3-star recruit produce 4-star results than a 5-star doing the same. I’m pretty sure you’d agree.

Comment by BigEgg 03.27.13 @ 5:07 pm

THE truth is you cant have a player run the
the football team even if the coach is wrong you cant admit it.
so for the better of the whole team he has to toe the line or leave but not to a az school.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.27.13 @ 5:10 pm

egg,The problem isn’t just the lack of production from the 5 star guy it’s the other guys he leads into obscurity with him.The over producing 3 star guy will help you win championships.76 team had a kid named Rudishar covering kicks,nobody brought the ball past the 27 the entire season.Tony Dorsett won the Heisman but we never would have won the title without the Rudishars and those types of players too.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 5:17 pm

@ BigEgg, I like that comment!!! Good on ya!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.27.13 @ 5:17 pm

If it turns out that an attitude problem causes him to leave then there is no where on the planet I would rather see him go than to Az St.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 5:22 pm

Seems like Ohio State has done OK since Maurice Clarett left.
Marcus Dupree was a man of vastly greater talent than Rushel. He left Oklahoma and they have done well since.
I am sure if Mr. Shell decides to leave that Pitt will be fine.
HCPC has a history of developing 1,000 yard rushers. Sometimes several in a year. He will do it again with they guys who want to play.

Comment by Houston Panther 03.27.13 @ 5:27 pm

@ spiritofsection22, if you want to talk about past unsung Pitt heros, lets not forget a kid named Tom Yewic who just happened to save our a$$es on that same championship team by stepping into the hotseat of the QB position when Matt Cavanauh went down midseason.

As more light is shone on this situation, I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for Shell. Looks like he is just about ready to make one of the worst decisions of his young life. Misguided at best, down right self centered and stupid at worst.

@ Pitt Dad, you took the words right out of my mouth, “spare tire”? I was kind of thinking “pudgy” myself. This is the steamroller running back that is going to make us forget who Ray Graham was this season? Something definitely is starting to smell in Denmark, and it ain’t Chryst’s coaching staff.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.27.13 @ 5:30 pm

Doc, let’s not besmirch his name please: It is Yewcic.

Comment by steve1 03.27.13 @ 5:42 pm

I couldn’t do that cause I’m not even sure what “besmirch” means, really.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.27.13 @ 5:45 pm

Better these attitude adjustments happen in the spring,in fact what better time.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 5:54 pm

I believe (But not 100% sure) that if Pitt gives Shell a full release to ASU (or anywhere else)then Shell can go on scholarship during his sitting-out year. However, if Pitt doesn’t realse him to ASU and he wants to go there, he would have to pay tuition for a year before he can go on scholarship.

I say this because Harris would not release Getsy and he had to pay his tuition his first year at Akron before going on scholarship. (Kind of ironic that JD Brookhart ended up as the Zips coach and eventually brought Walt in for his last year.)

Comment by wbb 03.27.13 @ 5:59 pm

To clarify — Pitt can release Shell but block the release to certain schools if they wish.

Comment by wbb 03.27.13 @ 6:00 pm

I was really looking forward to watching Shell run behind that big line next season. But if he does not want to be here, then I wish him all the best. I”ll look forward to to watching Crockett and Bennett or whoever gets the job run the ball. This is as much of an opportunity as it is a loss (if it happens)!

Comment by HbgFrank 03.27.13 @ 6:03 pm

Time to move on folks. If he stay great. If not then so be it… Wish him well. Pitt has to move on with players that want to be there. Always tough for a coach to do something with players that he didn’t recruit. Players have to want to be in the program.

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 03.27.13 @ 6:07 pm

besmirch [b??sm??t?]
vb (tr)
1. to make dirty; soil
2. to reduce the brightness or lustre of
3. to sully (often in the phrase besmirch (a person’s) name)

Comment by steve1 03.27.13 @ 6:14 pm

As king of the besmirch I’m sure you got closer to Yewcic than I did to Rudishar.The defense got to start 27 or in, after every score all year long.We might forget the spellings but we don’t forget the attitudes because that is what made the difference and won the championship.Shell can be a leader here but I doubt that can happen on talent alone.Chryst is right to draw the line here.I hope the young man buys in,it would be better for all concerned.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 6:16 pm

While people may most remember Dorsett, Yewcic and Cavanaugh in 76, don’t besmirch that defense which held PSU to 7 pts and Georgia to 3 pts in the final 2 games.

Comment by wbb 03.27.13 @ 6:21 pm

HbgFrank,I think losing talent and top recruits has to be an overall negative but I don’t think it is the end of life as we know it.The best scenario is for Shell to straighten up his act and set an example that utilizes his talent,rather than ships it down the road.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 6:27 pm

The other guy you are talking about was Randy Reutershan. He was fun to watch, especially on special teams. Johnny Majors called Reutershan, “the most dynamic special teams performer I have ever seen.” After he graduated he was drafted by the Steelers and played for 1 year.

Comment by Houston Panther 03.27.13 @ 6:44 pm

there was a time when pittsburgh suburb westerrn pa
grew QB the way outhers grew corn
here is a small list
johnny unitas
joe namath
dan marino
jim kelly
charlie batch
george blanda
babe parilli
terry hanratty
tom clements
joe montana
jonny lujack
dave havern
chuck fusina
john hufnagel
mac bulger
alex van pelt
tyler palko
bruce gradkowski
fred mazurek
tom yewcic
gus frerotte
i am sure i left some off but you get the idea

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.27.13 @ 6:46 pm

Maybe he can look at what happened to all world running back Brian Davis of Washington Pennsylvania, Shell is lazy, talent takes you so far but sooner or later you have to work hard to accomplish your goals.

Comment by WLAT and The Big Beat 03.27.13 @ 6:47 pm

WLAT, “You are what you repeatedly do. Excellence then is not an act, but a habit.”

Aristotle

Some things haven’t changed in the last 2,500 years.

Comment by Justinian 03.27.13 @ 7:02 pm

I blame Steve Pederson, this has to somehow be his fault. Maybe he was having an affair with Shell’s babies momma… or maybe he had athletic department gopher dress up like a clown to scare Russell into leaving Pitt. I’m sure he hates clowns, I know I do… or maybe it was Professor Plum in the Study with the Rope.

Stay tuned to “The Pitt and the Restless” Never a dull moment even though we are five months away from the first game. WAIT, that’s it! Pederson concocted this whole plan to generate free publicity for Pitt. He has a team of writers leaking this dialogue to “WPIAL Insider” to keep the buzz going about the upcoming season. Then when Shell stays everyone is happy again and the buzz grows.

Maybe this will sell the upper bowl sideline seats. A couple more stories this summer to generate more ticket sales and the whole stadium will be sold out. This man is brilliant! And to think some here on this blog malign him.

Be sure to tune in next week, same time, same drama.

Comment by Jeff in CPa 03.27.13 @ 7:14 pm

Thanks Houston Panther,As I recall he was sensational on the Steelers on special teams and made the roster off of those talents alone.I think I recall he died in a tragic car accident.He was 100 % desire,and I think Majors called it right.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 7:19 pm

well…i don’t know anything about why he wants to possibly leave…but if he does not put in effort and is uncoachable then that is not a team player…it’s hard to belive that some of these kids don’t take advantage of their talent…and then make bad choices

Comment by Keith 03.27.13 @ 7:20 pm

PC said he will recruit players who want to play for Pitt. Translation: come to Pitt; study at Pitt; obey the fukn rules; and put forth the effort. Anything else is a waste of a scholarship.
Shell was suspended once, was lazy in high school, and is now wavering on his commitment to Pitt.
Au revoir, mon ami.

Comment by Gas 03.27.13 @ 7:26 pm

Houston Panther, I looked up Reutershan and I was wrong he had career ending injuries in the car accident but wasn’t killed.He made the Steelers superbowl team at 5’10” 185 though.180 lbs.of heart the rest was helmit.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.27.13 @ 7:26 pm

frankcan, the QB situation is the same for any position. While WPa still produces quality, it does not even come close to the quantity of recruits that it once did. Within a 4 year period, WPa produced the following OL: Grimm, Covert, Fada, Fralic and Sweeny and one who sent to SMU (forgot his name) … all but Fada was multi-year all-pro.

This is a big fator why Pitt cannot compete with the big boys.

BTW, you omitted Pryor who is high on several all-time oSU lists, and won back-to-back BCS Bowl MVPs

Comment by wbb 03.27.13 @ 7:35 pm

Just posted to Twitter about ten minutes ago from Sam Werner and Chris Peak, DT Terrell Jackson (another of the 2012 Graham/Chryst class) has asked for and received his transfer release.

Comment by Stoosh 03.27.13 @ 7:49 pm

All of a sudden we’re not having to worry about too many scholarship players on the team, hey?

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.27.13 @ 8:05 pm

considering the lack of DL, this may be a big loss

Comment by wbb 03.27.13 @ 8:08 pm

I’m thinking Chryst either expected a few departures or has been encouraging the,. We’ve known for some time that the attitude just hasn’t been right. Laughing on sidleines during losses; inconsistent effort, etc. Get their hearts right and the rest will follow.

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 03.27.13 @ 8:27 pm

I’ll make it simple. Want your job given to you, there’s the door.
You can sit a year. We’ve wasted a year on you that we could have spent on someone else.
Want to miss class, here’s the door.
Sit out a year.
BTW, OSU made a huge mistake with Pryor. You can make a good argument it cost them a national title shot.
Leave boys….Pitt doesn’t need you.

Comment by SFPitt 03.27.13 @ 8:28 pm

And I really doubt Chryst is running Pitt’s version of “Junction Boys” in spring camp. Clean house of malcontents (IF that is what they – we still don’t know all the facts) and build. I’ve waited 30 years. What’s another 2 or 3?

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 03.27.13 @ 8:37 pm

Great memories of the announcer saying tackle by Randy Reutershan. You had to have been there.

Comment by gc 03.27.13 @ 8:44 pm

BGP – But no more than 2-3 years. I am getting old!

Comment by Dan 72 03.27.13 @ 8:46 pm

Didnt he get kicked off his high school basketball team? Thought I remember hearing this.

Comment by Tom Zep 03.27.13 @ 8:52 pm

To piggy back off of the great qb’s of western pa, lets look at the fine tradition of running backs at the great University of Pittsburgh!
Tony D
Curtis Martin
Lesean McCoy
Dion Lewis
Craig iron head Heyward
Billy West
Ray Graham

Once again, I’m sure I missed a lot here but if shell doesn’t want to be a part of rb university then I don’t know what to tell him!

Comment by Sweet Caroline 03.27.13 @ 8:58 pm

wbb, re: SMU lineman, you referring to Sean Stopperich from Canon-Mac?

Comment by Iron Duke 03.27.13 @ 9:09 pm

…..and way, way, way back an All American running back…Marshall Goldberg!

Comment by isnore 03.27.13 @ 9:14 pm

and Elliot walker played same time as tony d

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.27.13 @ 9:26 pm

It is disappointing if Shell leaves but this is at most a 2 year problem. If Shell is as good as we all assume he goes pro after his junior year. So we have Bennett, Crocket and maybe Davis this year. And then get some depth next year with a recruit or two and maybe a jr. college player.
It sucks but we will be fine. We should have the best o-line we’ve had in years and Bennett isn’t that bad.
To be honest I have more concerns with the D and House in his first year as the DC than I have with Bennett as our starting RB.

Comment by artj 03.27.13 @ 9:27 pm

Stephens-Howling…good enough for the NFL.

Comment by panther94 03.27.13 @ 10:02 pm

Curvin Richards

Comment by panther94 03.27.13 @ 10:10 pm

Kevan Barlow is another one…

Comment by Jackagain 03.27.13 @ 10:57 pm

Dr. Tom – your post above is right on the mark. I drifted through being thrown out of two high schools and then PITT and didn’t finish anything I started when I was a young man.

Joined the military and had basically the same “don’t care much” attitude until I met and married my wife. Going from that to being a husband and a father changed my attitude toward life literally overnight. Which is why I can both understand these kid’s attitudes and condemn them at the same time.

Football aside, I hope that Paul Chryst sat down with Shell and laid out the law as it pertains to staying in the PITT football program. It isn’t enough to be talented, one has to be dedicated also.

Comment by Reed 03.28.13 @ 4:57 am

another excellent running back from the late 70’s early 80’s… Randy McMillan

Comment by The Turk 03.28.13 @ 7:33 am

‘less we forget Rooster Jones,cockadooodledoo!

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.29.13 @ 8:30 am

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