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March 28, 2012

The Lack of Wanting to Play Defense

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 2:07 pm

I was planning a recap of the Monday night loss to Washington State for yesterday, but had some other things that needed getting done. Then I just started procrastinating.

Ray Fittipaldo’s post on it, summed a lot of the feelings up regarding the game.

I spent most of Monday working on an analysis of Pitt’s season —  what went wrong, what has to improve for the team to get back to the NCAA tournament next season — and my three basic points were all confirmed in the Panthers’ loss to Washington State in Game 1 of the CBI championship series later Monday night.

My three points —  a steep decline in the ability to defend, an almost complete lack of inside presence and point guard play  — were all factors in the loss.

Pitt’s defense was atrocious in the game. The perimeter defense, especially, was horrid. Leaving shooters uncovered all night. Yes Ashton Gibbs was still lousy on defense, but so was Moore, Patterson and just about everyone else.

For the first 35 minutes, there was no commitment to even attempt defense. It took until the final five minutes, when Pitt players realized that they weren’t going to win this game just shooting.

That was the weirdest thing about this game. The lack of defense from either team. It was almost as if Coach Dixon let the team try to play it their way for most of the game. Then there was about a 10 minute stretch in the second half where Pitt went cold on offense. Washington State didn’t and what had been a close, back-and-forth game became a double-digit Cougar lead.

Part of the defensive problems did stem from Coach Dixon continuing to keep giving minutes to returning players and toying with the rotation for next year. Gibbs only played 28 minutes — though, that may have had as much to do with his attitude — and Nas played only 20 minutes (only 7 minutes in the second half). There was an extensive experiment of playing Lamar Patterson at the 4 to have him and J.J. Moore out there together.  That definitely was not a help to the defense inside.

I like Patterson a lot, but with Zanna or Taylor being the other big inside, Patterson was not a good fit defensively. Malcolm Gilbert couldn’t get in this game, because Washington State doesn’t play  a real inside game. They bring their forwards out on the perimeter a lot, and Gilbert is not ready to range that far from the paint defensively.

That meant you had the defensive weakness of Taylor/Zanna on one side. On the other was Patterson being completely out of position and undersized for the other spot. I like the idea of Patterson and Moore playing together — but not with this group. Or at least not with Patterson at the 4.

The only good thing, was that Pitt didn’t give up. They did fight back.

But the defense is the big thing. That goes to their desire to play defense. Outside of Cam Wright and Gilbert, I’m not sure there are that many players on the squad that comes back for next year that want to play defense. The players all know they have to play defense, but that is not the same thing. There isn’t the same pride and desire to shut the other side down.

They see the defense as the means to getting back to offense. John Johnson is a good example. I like Johnson a lot, and he can be a good defender if he wanted to with very quick hands — even if he is a little small and not as fast as he thinks he is. The problem is he is impatient. He likes the idea of trying to get the steal or shoot the gap on  a pass to lead a fast break the other way. That kind of gambling has gotten him in foul trouble and completely out of position on defense that creates breakdowns for the rest of the team as someone else has to jump out while Johnson recovers.

Coach Dixon has talked all season about how this team just gets impatient. And that showed up throughout the Monday night game on defense. They would defend Washington State for 25-30 seconds, but they let Washington State get a really good look with single digits left on the shot clock. The impatience, from my perspective, seems to be because they want to get down to the other end of the court.

Even in games Pitt has won. They have typically had those stretches where the other team gets back into it. Why? Because the defense slips. The players lose interest in that side of things. They want to get back on offense

And yet Pitt nearly pulled this game out. That led to the funniest point in the entire night. Pitt down one point. 3.5 seconds left. About to inbound the ball from underneath the Cougar basket. Ex-Providence Coach Keno Davis is doing the color commentary. The same Keno Davis that had to endure this moment.

Yet, Davis would be damned if he was going to mention it. I mean, it was exactly the situation. Right down to the amount of time left. And at best he obliquely states, “Pitt has been in this situation before.”

Unfortunately, Pitt didn’t do it this time. Woodall tried to take it all the way to the hoop instead of trying to pull-up for a shot. I guess hoping for a Scottie Reynolds shot and score — or to draw a foul. Instead blocked out of bounds. Giving Pitt one more shot. This time for Pattterson. It also didn’t go.

Pitt gets another bite at the CBI apple tonight at the Pete. 7pm on HDNet.





Just checking online to see if there are any tickets and the Pitt site is not offerring any. Out of curiosity checked Stubhub which has none. I find it hard to believe its actually sold out. Is it just that they stop selling online so many hrs before tip-off?

Comment by PantherP 03.28.12 @ 3:41 pm

Hard to believe Steve Adams declined an invitation to the Nike hoop summit. This is THE best amateur basketball event aside from the olympics! The top 12 U.S. Players vs. top 12 international players; great stuff – never miss a game. Bad upbringing aside, how difficult is it to graduate high school & score 700 on the SAT ? If he’s that inept maybe college just isn’t for him. I am pulling for him 100% and if he qualifies I Suggest/encourage him to stay all 4 years !

Comment by Rocky20 03.28.12 @ 5:46 pm

Just announced…no Gibbs tonight…ankle injury.
Pitt should win this one easy without his lackluster defense and slow reaction times.

Comment by Dan 72 03.28.12 @ 5:56 pm

I am at the game..he was eating pretzles on the bench….

Comment by silverfox 03.28.12 @ 6:16 pm

I also think pitt still looks like crap in this game. If pitt didn’t play lackluster defense and had faster reaction times they wouldn’t be in the cbi.

Comment by silverfox 03.28.12 @ 6:29 pm

JJ Moore’s insistance on shooting 3s instead of driving is infuriating. It’d be worse if we weren’t winning because of it.

Comment by PantherP 03.28.12 @ 7:27 pm

This is just bad basketball. I imagine the CIT is similarly poor

Comment by Tony C 03.28.12 @ 7:36 pm

Jamie looks in pain

Comment by Tony C 03.28.12 @ 7:37 pm

Pitt up 6, 15 seconds left.

Comment by alcofan 03.28.12 @ 7:56 pm

why Cameron, why?

Comment by Gordo 03.28.12 @ 7:58 pm

Pitt wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by alcofan 03.28.12 @ 8:02 pm

almost half of our FG attempts were 3 pointers? I don’t understand.

Comment by PantherP 03.28.12 @ 8:04 pm

Do our players know that you are allowed to dribble with the ball and drive to the basket? It’s in the rules…I swear.

Comment by ECH 03.28.12 @ 8:17 pm

Very cheap intentional foul call against Pitt with less than 10 seconds in the game. Gave WSU a chance at a four-point play, and they got all four. Pitt then *almost* threw the inbounds away at half court; fortunately for Pitt, they called the WSU player out of bounds. Pitt brought it in at half court, was fouled, and made two shots. There was no way Pitt was going to lose tonight.

Pitt should win easily on Friday.

Comment by Lou 03.28.12 @ 8:27 pm

Hope they finish this thing out with a W. H2P

Comment by Pitt Rob 03.28.12 @ 9:03 pm

So the Post Gazette reports that Gibbs missed tonight’s game with a right ankle injury THAT HE HAS BE STRUGGLING WITH ALL SEASON. I don’t remember that being reported before today, but it does explain a lot of things with his game this year.

Comment by HbgFrank 03.28.12 @ 9:32 pm

Heard Dixon is recruiting a PG from CCAC named Marcus Smith. Went to Perry and dominated the City League his Jr. and Sr. years. He’ll be playing in the Pro-Am in Greentree this year. Personally, have never seen someone with a better handle

Comment by Dylan 03.28.12 @ 9:44 pm

Gibbs was “hurt?” Couldn’t have anything to do with his complete disinterest at this point? I have never seen a Pitt player appear to give up like he has this season. Good luck to him in Europe next year (maybe).

Comment by crackbaldo 03.28.12 @ 10:07 pm

The intentional foul call on Pitt at the end was the worst call I have seen in any game in any sport. Not only was it not intentional, not only was it not a foul on Pitt, but it was a clear offensive foul on WSU. Coupling that with the no-call when Woodall was clearly fouled on Monday’s final play, I really don’t want to watch Friday’s game. I’m saying now it will be taken from Pitt on a horrible call and I doubt I’ll be wrong.

Comment by Brian 03.29.12 @ 2:12 am

Couldn’t watch the game last night, I get too worked up when Pitt gives games away. From what I read, the refs tried to give the game to Washington State last night. If Pitt can play good defense and make their free throws, they should beat WSU by double figures. But… Either way, win or lose the 2011/2012 edition of Pitt’s basketball season will be over. We can always look to the future. HTP!

Comment by MariettaMike 03.29.12 @ 5:52 am

Some of the worst bball I have ever seen, by both sides. Empty facility. If Adams can’t come, the dark days are back. No more NCAA’s for a while.

Comment by gc 03.29.12 @ 6:45 am

The team plays better without Gibbs. Let him sulk on the bench. Pitt does need better ball handlers and an inside presence and better athletes and better shooters and more drives to the basket and better defense and better coaching. Pitt won’t be competing for ACC titles until then. We might be looking at some mediocrity until then. The Golden Age is coming to an end. But let’s hope its just a transition period and it will be short.

Comment by TX Panther 03.29.12 @ 7:07 am

No story that I could dig up on websites about Adams having academic problems. Turning down the hoop summit may have been a decision of his prep. coach, Dixon, whomever. Let’s just hope it is for his sake.

Concerning playing against the best he has already played against two of the top 3 centers, Nolens, Twarswark and easily bested them. He has nothing left to prove concerning his ability to dominate at this level or the college level.

On everything I’ve read he appears, at this time to be getting good mentoring. As for his potential on the court the NBA has to be drolling.

Comment by drw 03.29.12 @ 8:28 am

Good insights on Pitts underclassmen and their desire to play defense. Most if not all high school players that get to the college level do it on scoring. The on defending interests aree the show boating shot blocking often induced by purposely allowing your man to beat you so you can block his hot from behind or giving your man an open shot outside so you can block it. That is high school level that does not work in college. Hopefully the younger players are learning to shead their ingrained habits from years of basketball against physicall inferior opponents.

On the bright side this based only on what I have read from coaches and scouts. Robinson may not have quickness of the premeir guards but he makes up for that with his understanding of the game and his limitations, his willingness to play in your face at both ends of the court, and unlike our current guards quality ballhandling, decision making, consistent outside shooting game, and the ability to penetrate and finish.

Comment by drw 03.29.12 @ 8:43 am

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