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March 1, 2012

The Fall of Howland

Filed under: Basketball,Coaches,Media — Chas @ 12:44 pm

Hell of a damning piece on Ben Howland and the turmoil at UCLA. No real scandal. No recruiting violations. Nothing really that I would consider outrageous behavior by the players — outside of Reeves Nelson — to suggest an institutional issue. And the defense from former players is underway. Nonetheless, it is a piece that makes Ben Howland look really, really bad. A piece that those UCLA fans who want Howland out are citing as evidence.

The first thing to note from a Pitt perspective, none of this touches Pitt. The issues surrounding UCLA and Howland are only for the last few years. It is pointed out that there were no problems at UCLA in the first several years under Howland. It has only been recently. What it suggests more than anything else is that Howland was too hands-off about what the players were doing, expecting them to all be self-starters who kept things in check. Go figure, not all kids — especially high-major talent — might be less disciplined.

The group he had at first was much like what he had at Pitt.

 

I mean, read this description:

The core of the Bruins’ Final Four teams came from Howland’s first two recruiting classes: Arron Afflalo, Jordan Farmar, Lorenzo Mata-Real and Josh Shipp, all 2004 recruits; and Alfred Aboya, Darren Collison, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and Michael Roll from 2005. Not one was considered a surefire NBA player. In Rivals.com’s national rankings of high school prospects, only Farmar made the top 25. Most others failed to crack the top 50 (Collison was No. 100) or were barely ranked at all.

In an era in which coaches spend considerable time managing athletes with inflated egos, Howland assembled a mostly selfless group. The players were also mature beyond their years…

Sound familiar?

And this?

The task of indoctrinating a new player — such as Westbrook, another unranked recruit, who enrolled in 2006 — fell to the veterans. It was a team of prefects, the protectors of the UCLA dynamic, who looked out for each other, making sure that no one got into trouble, that no one threatened what they were trying to accomplish or what UCLA has always been about. They were a tight group. If they went out, to the movies or a party, they were 15 strong.

Where have we seen this before?

I think this piece lays an awful lot at Howland’s feet, while minimizing the contributions he provided. I have a hard time buying that it was all the hard work of the players in creating the group cohesiveness. Especially when the same thing was started by Howland and continues to this point. That can’t be pure coincidence, or simply because his initial Pitt squad like his early UCLA squad contained a lot of low-maintenance, relatively eg0-free guys who only cared about winning. Which again goes to the the credit of the coach who recruited them.

It may be true that Howland hasn’t been attentive to the group of players being cohesive off-the-court in recent years. But I do think he played significant a role in creating the initial environment that veterans passed on the goals and what was expected each year.

I see cautionary warnings in this story. The slant puts a lot of fault on Howland for not being involved with the players. For not caring about the team building. How that snowballed into disparate treatment of players based only on production. Bad practices. Too much partying. No consequences

Obviously, after a disappointing season for Pitt, there will be the questions of whether Coach Dixon is heading down the same path. Especially as the talent has increased. My belief is that Dixon hasn’t let that happen (and after this Howland piece, won’t). Khem Birch excepted, the stories of the team sticking together off-the-court continued through this year.

We’ve seen it in minutes all season that practice still matters, and if you don’t practice well, you don’t play. It’s the delicate balance. You need talent to win. But you also need a team, and team chemistry or it all falls apart.

Odds are, Howland survives for at least another year. The UCLA AD — who has made Steve Pederson look exemplary — can’t afford to fire Howland  at this point. Not the same year he had to fire Neuheisel from the football side. Guerrero has now whiffed twice on football coaches and to then have to fire the guy he hired for basketball. That seems a bit too much to survive.





awful good commentary on this piece especially how it relates to Pitt, Chas

Comment by wbb 03.01.12 @ 1:39 pm

Imagine that…an AD worse than Smiley when it comes to football coaching hires.

Comment by TX Panther 03.01.12 @ 1:58 pm

Wow, we now have both girls now from “Mutually Beneficial Arrangement” site…way to go Chas!

Comment by Marco 03.01.12 @ 2:42 pm

I would donate to either of the mutual girls before Santorum.

Comment by longsufferingpittfan 03.01.12 @ 3:57 pm

just think, Santorum would rather make love with a donkey than to see these girls make out with each other … go figure!

Comment by wbb 03.01.12 @ 4:10 pm

Although I have no use for Ricky – please keep the politics off the sports sites.

Comment by steve 03.01.12 @ 4:16 pm

FWIW, as you can see, I’m completely irreverant about politics and politicians … and can care less about any of them on either side of the aisle.

Comment by wbb 03.01.12 @ 4:29 pm

Cannot really explain how I ran into it, but the Mutual Girl standing next to the AC Cobra has about 50 more pictures out there where she is not as ‘shy’ as she is in the Blather picture. The car is an ‘AC Cobra” and she goes by the name “Brittany”. Google it as your own peril.

Comment by ChangingNameForThisOnePost 03.01.12 @ 4:34 pm

If politicians were any good, they would have found a way to save the Pitt vs Penn State series.

Comment by TX Panther 03.01.12 @ 4:35 pm

Doesn’t touch Pitt? I would have thought that the calls of Dixon heading to Ucla to replace howland would have started by now!

Comment by Pittsburgh Boomerang 03.01.12 @ 5:26 pm

Howland’s treatment of a student manager was almost as damning as his treatment of Nelson. Force your non-basketball playing 19 year old volunteer in a thankless role to snitch on who’s breaking team rules, then fire him anyway for somehow being complicit in the misdeeds of the players. That just came off as so bullyish.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.01.12 @ 5:27 pm

Well, I’ve posted it here before…I’ll cry no tears for Ben Howland…I don’t wish him any ill will, but just like our former FB coach Graham, he treated the University of Pittsburgh, it fans, and worst of all his players with complete contempt on his way out of town. We are better off without him and Graham.

Comment by HbgFrank 03.01.12 @ 6:34 pm

i wouldnt compare howland 2 graham..at least howl brough pitts b-ball squad to national relevance, and i honestly believe that ucla is his dream job and a job at that time u couldnt turn down..on the graham he cowardly left an text and bailed to his fake dream job and had slippery rock offered him that contract he would be up there.r program is no better in fb, but our b-ball improved 100times better

Comment by teezy 03.01.12 @ 6:43 pm

No politics please this is a sports blog for PITT.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.01.12 @ 7:35 pm

Leave Rick Santorum alone. He is a proud Pitt Panther alum. I’m kidding. About the leaving him alone part.

Comment by Cnorwood 03.01.12 @ 8:56 pm

no love for Howland. He was negotiating his contract with UCLA instead of preparing Pitt to play Marquette in the tourney. He’s getting what he deserves now. I’d venture a guess that this story is a plant from alumni who are upset that Ben hasn’t delivered their birthright, an endless string of national championships, like St. Wooten did. He could’ve coached for life at Pitt, maybe No Arizona will take him back

Comment by Jaimz 03.01.12 @ 9:31 pm

Although Ben Howland did a terrific job at Pitt, I thought Jamie Dixon was the better guy, better fit, and the better coach for Pitt basketball. Thank god, that Nordy ignored comments from Bob Smizik and others, that he would be a terrible hire. Jamie Dixon led Pitt basketball through the longest period of sustained excellence in Pitt’s history. And………..hopefully he’ll have the Panthers back on track next season.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.12 @ 10:13 pm

John Wooden was not a God and his players weren’t saints either.
As long as UCLA keeps casting the Wooden shadow, it will always be perceived to be less than the sum of its parts.
Howland made a mistake…he was always going to sit in the shadow of Wooden. Now, he will be forced to resign I suspect at the end of next year.

Comment by SFPitt 03.01.12 @ 10:40 pm

that article was so overblown. a complete non-event……

what a scoop………. college kids party, you can’t recruit bad kids and Reeves Nelson is a thug. i had no idea.

and the characterizations of Howland came off as a complete hatchet job.

SI should be careful; there was less journalism in that piece than I would have expected from them. pretty lame……

Comment by hugh green 03.02.12 @ 7:21 am

I hope the JoePa shadow lasts forever. That’s one of the problems with super stability. A certain way of doing things is indoctrinated and its tough to change when how things were done in the past no longer work. New blood and new ideas are a good thing. Coaches get lazy after a while and too comfortable. I’m glad Jamie is facing some adversity now. That’s actually a good thing if he uses it to become a better coach and slightly reinvent himself. Overall, stability is a good thing as long as programs continue to innovate and adapt with the times. Woodens pyramid cannot be rigidly applied in today’s world.

Comment by TX Panther 03.02.12 @ 7:30 am

hugh green, I agree. Not befitting of SI. Way overhyped.

Comment by Joe 03.02.12 @ 7:58 am

I know that I’m biased but I thought the SI article about Pitt last year was overhyped. Yes, Pitt had its issues but it was basically just a one year deal. Plus, the poster child of that article, Jabaal Sheard, was otherwise an exemplary person who had no other issues during his career (he was obviously aggravated by an instigator.) All Sheard has done since was become a 2nd round pick and make the NFL all-rookie team.

But I guess that these days with all its competition, SI has to sell its magazines.

Comment by wbb 03.02.12 @ 8:53 am

unfortunately i am going to have to agree with hugh on this as well. the article made reeves nelson look like a psychopath, but didn’t have much else substance.

Comment by omar 03.02.12 @ 9:17 am

Totally agree with Hugh…

And TX Panther I think you make an excellent point about Coach Dixon.

I wouldn’t necessarily say he needs to reinvent himself, but what i do think he needs to do is take a look at his staff. We have lost several asst coaches to head coaching jobs in the last 5-6 years. Herrion, Skerry, Rice, and Rohrssen (have I left anyone out?) These guys were all invaluable in player development. And I look at guys on the team now like Nas and Dante, and I just dont see the improvement, skill-wise, that I would expect. What does Nas do now that he wasn’t able to do as a freshman? Can he step out and hit a jumper? Can he handle the ball? I think his toughness is great, and any coach would love to have that on his team, but at the end of the day he is the same player he was when he arrived on campus.

Look at the shooting ability/form of Cam Wright. He redshirted last year, and granted he made a three Wednesday night, but his shooting is something that should have been worked on endlessly, knowing he would be counted on this season.

We have Brandon Knight and Jason Richards on staff as a GA. We all know how good Knight was, but Richards was an excellent PG himself at Davidson, and I believe played a minute with the Heat. And yet we have not improved one bit in our ballhandling.

As some have mentioned, we have clearly missed on a few players over the last few years, but I firmly believe the same can be said about some of the asst coaching staff. Hell maybe Howland will be available!! HAHA

Comment by Big Bill 03.02.12 @ 9:22 am

Finally, I find myself in agreement with Ron Cook.His piece today on Coach Dixon was well done. Pitt;s mentor has done yeoman work with a “work still in progress team. Revb. George in Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 03.02.12 @ 9:25 am

For those of you who thought loosing Bostad to TB was bad – 3 more assistants have left Rutgers to go to the NFL…New Rutgers coach Kyle Flood already has lost three assistants to the NFL, a little more than two weeks after announcing his first staff.

Special teams coordinator Phil Galiano is leaving for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers; running backs coach Ben Sirmans is heading to coach the same position for the St. Louis Rams; and graduate assistant Andrew Janocko will become the Buccaneers’ offensive quality control coach.

Sirmans was recently hired from BC.

Comment by markp 03.02.12 @ 10:11 am

Andrew Janocko rings a bell?

Comment by wbb 03.02.12 @ 10:22 am

The cautionary tale for Dixon is simple, WIN.

None of this “reporting” happens and none of the stuff that went on at UCLA is even an issue IF UCLA is competing for PAC 10 titles, going to the tournament and winning games.

SI started digging around because the team wasn’t being successful, alums were pissed, former players were pissed, all were willing to add fuel to the SI hatchet job fire. SI won’t come looking and no one will talk if the program is being successful.

And while I agree that none of the stuff going on at UCLA (or with Howland) is that egregious, it doesn’t take much to bring down a good program. A couple bad kids, a head coach who takes his eye off the ball a little, a bad season, a few RECRUITING MISSES, BAD (selfish) TEAM LEADERSHIP, ASSISTANT COACHES asleep at the wheel, is sometimes all it takes.

Hmm..that hits a little close to home.

Comment by boubacar aw 03.02.12 @ 10:26 am

Agree with Chas, and the comments that the SI piece was really weak. More shock-piece than actual substance.

I have to wonder how many sources did the ‘journalist’ actually talked to. Seems like three were basicall ytwo ources, and one of them was an immature kid that didn’t like Howland (Nelson). I also have to wonder how many kids he talked to whose quotes he ignored because it didn’t fit the narrative he was trying to tell. Poor journalism but someone who seems more a fan disapointed in UCLA’s woes of late than someone who is actually providing coherent facts.

That said, there seems to be some blame for Howland and it can be a cautionary tale for Dixon — be careful how you treat your stars if your team, unlike say UK, isn’t completely made up of stars/one-and-doners.

I would say the only relevance to Pitt is how much slack Dixon gave Gibbs all year, who in return pouted all season. At least Dixon eventually called him out in the press — something he NEVER does. I think Dixon’s savvy enough to not have the same fate as Howland. Dixon, while not a players pal like the slimy Calipieri (spitting his name out of my mouth), but he’s more a players coach than Howland is. Remember that it was the players (esp Krauser and Paige) lobbying for him to be the head coach when Howland left.

Comment by PantherP 03.02.12 @ 10:35 am

Also, really like post-gazette piece on Dixon’s reaction to SI’s hatchet job on Howland (despite that Cooke wrote it).

Comment by PantherP 03.02.12 @ 10:40 am

This isn’t the 1st national media article taking shots at Howland. There was a stir in the LA Times during the UCLA funk in 10-11 about Howland’s inability to recruit complementary pieces or ‘coach talent’ (where have we heard that one before?). His recruits had a lot of pedigree, but weren’t considered a good fit for his system.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.02.12 @ 10:42 am

The “journalist” is a Pulitzer Prize winner, so I wouldn’t question his procedures and credentials too much. That said, I agree with everyone that it all seems much ado about nothing, and the key here is this comes out much more when you don’t WIN.

Comment by JW 03.02.12 @ 10:42 am

I agree, the SI piece is not befitting of SI, and the author should have done a better job of examining Ben Howland’s entire track record, before pronouncing judgement.

Howland was a rock-solid disciplinarian at Pitt, and that showed in the way his teams played on the court, as well as how they conducted themselves off of the court. He followed an era of the exact opposite at Pitt under Ralph Willard.

Another point that is largely trivialized in this is an examination of the type of kids being recruited to UCLA. While at Pitt, Howland recruited gritty, hard-nosed athletes over basketball players, primarily from the East. In the meantime, Howland’s predecessor, Steve Lavin, recruited highly-talented, largely West-coast guys to UCLA and was having significant discipline problems. Howland comes to UCLA, begins by recruiting hard-nosed, gritty players and does well. Then recruits as Lavin did, highly-talented, primarily West-coast guys, and this is the result. See a correlation here?

Comment by apm74 03.02.12 @ 10:45 am

Syracuse added Missouri as a non-conf. opponent for next year…Texas A&M has an opening too bad Pitt doesn’t try to get a top notch opponent.

Comment by markp 03.02.12 @ 10:46 am

Just read the Cook column in the PG, link below. It is very good. He states the case “pro-Dixon” case very, very well.

link to post-gazette.com

reminds us why we’re lucky to have Dixon at Pitt. Honestly, I kinda needed reminding…..

Comment by boubacar aw 03.02.12 @ 10:53 am

are you sure T A&M has an opening?

link to fbschedules.com

Comment by wbb 03.02.12 @ 10:57 am

My bad – they had one opening a month ago.

Comment by markp 03.02.12 @ 11:22 am

Boubacar, Good points, I thought the SI piece on Pitt’s football program under Dave Wannstedt with the run-ins with police was completely over blown. SI made it sound like they were the Miami Hurricanes of the 90s. None the less, the negative PR had a lot to do with Wanny’s termination.

Comment by Justinian 03.02.12 @ 12:00 pm

I’d double check that Pulitzer thing, if this is the amount of research the guy does for an article.

They give Nobel’s and Oscar’s to anyone too.

Comment by Dan 03.02.12 @ 12:10 pm

@apm74

Howland comes to UCLA, begins by recruiting hard-nosed, gritty players and does well. Then recruits as Lavin did, highly-talented, primarily West-coast guys, and this is the result.

Except the article actually praised the Lavin class Howland inherited, and cited its good work ethic and self-starter attitude as a reason for Howlands’s early succes.

In some of the blowback from the article, Howland has had defenders among his former players, even ones who were in his doghouse.

Ultimately, it shows that he had better recruiters in Jamie and Slice than he’s had at UCLA

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.02.12 @ 1:01 pm

Hugh Green…I agree the SI article was basically a hatchet job on Howland…Its about winning and losing, and he is losing too many games so the press out there is kicking him while he is down…The UCLA program has far too high of an opinion of itself. I believe coach Lavin took them to six sweet 16s in his 7 or so years there, his reward was a pink slip…Now on a personal level I can’t stand the man. There is a reason why Pitt changed the locks on the Pete and put his personal belongings in boxes in the hall outside of his office after he announded on the West Cost that he was taking the UCLA job. It’s the contempt that follows actions that are really low. I don’t care what the man did in his stay at Pitt, the way he left wiped it all away and left a lasting legacy of stench for me. Just ask WVU fans about RichRod, they don’t say “Yeah, but he did a lot of good for us before he left”. They say he is a back-stabbing idiot. Ask a Lousiville fan about Petrino…they don’t say, “Yeah, but he gave us a few great years”. They say he is a self-absored jerk. It is not that any of these men left their jobs, its HOW they did it. All of them have a right to persue their craft any way they see fit. That does not mean their University, fans, or players should have to accept poor treatment from them with a “Thank you”.

Comment by HbgFrank 03.02.12 @ 1:05 pm

There are pretty much 3 ways a coach can leave a job — retiring, taking another position (presumably better pay, prestige, etc…) or getting fired (I guess a coach could die or have a serious health issue, but those are exceptions). For a coach in his 30s-40s, I doubt the retirement option viable. Barring a long term legacy situation (Izzo, Coach K, etc) for most of these guys it’s quit or get fired. Many schools will fire a coach even for the wrong reason without blinking, so why this expectation of undying devotion from coaches? There are classy and unclassy ways to handle it, but ultimately the dynamic for most coaches is quit on your own terms or wait to get fired. I don’t begrudge Howland leaving Pitt — it wasn’t as bad as Graham and he wasn’t totally two faced about it, as it came as a surprise to very few people when the position was open.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.02.12 @ 3:48 pm

The fact is Graham at least ask for permission to speak with ASU. Howland signed a six year contract extension less than a year before he left (giving him seven years under contract). He spoke with no one at the University about his decision. If I recall correctly, the University, the fans, and his team found out he was gone through the Press…You have to be a jerk to do that. I don’t begrudge him leaving either, but that does not mean he was not a complete ahole about it, so I’ll say again, he’ll get no “thank you” from me for his time at Pitt. It’s more like a “don’t let the door hit ya!”

Comment by HbgFrank 03.02.12 @ 8:53 pm

I don’t remember that much acrimony around Howland leaving. The UCLA position was in play for some time and he was closely connected to that opening from the earliest speculation about the mythical heir aparent to Wooden.

Contracts for college coaches are absolutely meaniningless aside from setting pay. Coaches can and do leave whenever they choose, and schools can and do terminate when they see fit. It’s a formality that carries no real weight.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.05.12 @ 11:58 am

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