Who’s class recruiting ranking do you want to choose to believe for Pitt?
Rivals.com says Pitt is the 47th best class. Behind other Big East teams like Rutgers (23), Louisville (38) and WVU (45).
247Sports.com has Pitt at 40th (they were very low on Voytik). Rutgers (21) and WVU (36) in front of Pitt.
Scout.com at 39th. With WVU (26), Cinci (32) and Rutgers (33) ahead of Pitt.
ESPN.com says 30th. Rutgers (25) and Louisville (27) are the only ones ahead.
I don’t pretend to understand it, except that the further you get from the top 15-20 recruiting classes the wider the variance between various rankings. The formulas are a mix of player rankings and volume. Which is how Cinci with 30 commits with an average star ranking of 2.73 on Scout.com is up so high. Scout.com only takes the top-25 players from a signing class in their rankings. What’s funny is Pitt will likely fall a little further in their rankings because Scout.com lists Pitt with 18 kids — still including Pitts and Jarrett in there it seems. So Pitt will lose points based on overall volume.
This is not some rant on the recruiting rankings — merely an attempt to put context to the “class rankings”. Frankly, the individual rankings of players are useful. Not perfect but very useful. I highly recommend this short piece defending recruiting rankings.
Pitt definitely has a good recruiting class. Not just because of the “all things considered” issue of another coaching change. They filled some needs/stockpiled in the secondary, backfield and QB. The linebacking group got a little better/deeper.
At the same time, Pitt has some huge holes looming that needs to be addressed quickly in immediate future for recruiting. Primarily on the O-line and D-line. Including Ricketts, a transfer, and one JUCO Pitt only has added only 8 O- and D-linemen in the past 2 years. Only 6 recruits in the past two signing classes. That’s not good considering how many don’t pan out, and how long it can take to develop players. Bostad may be one of the best O-line coaches in the country, but he still needs something with which to work. So for the future, the O-line will continue to be a point of angst.
There is a lot to like about this incoming class. Plenty to like about this coaching staff. There is also a lot of work ahead and a lot of needs still to be filled.
93 Bryan Murphy DE So. 6-3/250 Washingtonville, NY (Don Bosco Prep )
Even 5-star prospects mostly don’t make it to the NFL.
Or if one commits super early, his ranking never goes up, but might go down. It’s mostly all a bunch of bs anyway. Just something for them to make money on.
We never even worried about who was going where back in Pitt’s latest ‘glory days’ other than Dan Marino & Tony Dorsett and to be frank it was no where as blown up back then, even over them.
Johnny & Jackie could coach em up!
1) Ray Venable (sp) Safety
2) Christian Cullen DB
3) A transfer from ND I believe, as well.
I believe the first 2 started in the secondary for Michigan as true freshmen. So they must be pretty good. The ND kid must have been good too, ND doesn’t recruit low ranked kids. Too bad we don’t have a jr or sr. transfer QB coming in, which would truly change my excitement level.
I’d even go so far as to get Pat Bostick back on the field, he has one year of eligibility left. He is very intelligent, has a stronger arm than noodle arm and knows the pro-style offense.
Doubt that they’ll let it happen though. We know why…… don’t we.
there are 2 very high rated OLmen still free
bostad was recuiting this one when he was at wisconsin Alex Kozan og 6 foot 4 295
and Jordan Diamond 6 foot6 289 he was allso recuited to wisconsin so our coachs know them
are these kids trouble and if not has bostad called them they have not signed i just checked the one is the 12 best OG in the usa the outher is in the top 25 ot.
In addition, we have Brendon Felder, a 3-star WR transfer from NC who is eligible and may see some time this season as a deep threat.
Justinian – not to put too fine a point on it but Bob Junko wasn’t on Graham’s staff at all. Ever since his heart attack a few years back. He’s been on PITT’s administrative staff since 2007.
But he was instrumental in keeping this class together almost single handily during the coaching changes. Both Bam Bradley and Deaysean Rippy credit his keeping on them as their deciding factor. Junko is somewhat of a legend in WPA HS football circles.
Was shocked when he chose Ped State over PITT in the first place since father Tom played and starred at PITT
And the Felder kid should be good too.
Reed is there a kid transferring from ND that will be eligible next season?
Cudos to Bob Junko as well !!
Voytik’s rating on ESPN: 80
Sunseri’s rating on ESPN in 2008: 80
I sincerely hope that this class will be able to lead Pitt to great things, a sentiment I suspect most of you share.
H2P!
He actually played sparingly last season if I remember because he had already red shirted at ND and was eligible this last season.
You may recall that the poster boy of that SI article was Jabaal Sheard .. who was an exemplary student/citizen prior to that, and has been since. All Jabaal has done was become a 2nd roud draft pick, make the NFL all rookie team, and the people up here in Cleveland love him. (not bad for a hardened criminal!)
77 Zenel Demhasaj OG Jr. 6-7/330 Brooklyn, NY (New Utrecht H.S.)
56 Arthur Doakes OT Fr. RS 6-6/360 Lebanon, PA (Lebanon)
70 Juantez Hollins OG So. RS 6-5/305 Aliquippa, PA (Aliquippa)
54 Chris Jacobson OG Sr. RS 6-3/295 Pittsburgh, PA (Keystone Oaks )
64 Shane Johnson OG Fr. RS 6-5/325 Fort Washington, MD (DeMatha Catholic)
78 Cory King OG So. RS 6-6/325 Stoneboro, PA (Lakeview)
55 Tom Ricketts OT Fr. RS 6-6/285 Pittsburgh, PA (North Allegheny)
74 Matt Rotheram OG Fr. RS 6-6/350 North Olmsted, OH (North Olmsted)
57 Artie Rowell C Fr. 6-2/275 Harrisburg, PA (Central Dauphin)
76 Ryan Schlieper OG So. RS 6-5/305 Wexford, PA (North Allegheny)
75 Ryan Turnley C Jr. RS 6-6/320 Hopewell, PA (Hopewell)
66 Justin Virbitsky OT Jr. RS 6-4/280 Jermyn, PA (Lakeland)
Defensive Line
90 T.J. Clemmings DE So. 6-6/295 Teaneck, NJ (Patterson Catholic)
97 Aaron Donald DT So. 6-0/270 Pittsburgh, PA (Penn Hills)
91 Tyrone Ezell DT So. RS 6-4/295 Munhall, PA (Steel Valley)
45 Shayne Hale DE Jr. RS 6-4/255 Monroeville, PA (Gateway)
72 Jack Lippert DT So. RS 6-4/265 Harrisburg, PA (Central Dauphin)
95 Khaynin Mosley-Smith DT Fr. 6-0/290 Pittsburgh, PA (Woodland Hills)