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November 14, 2011

Flashbacking on Louisville

Filed under: Football — Chas @ 11:24 am

I didn’t get to watch the Pitt-Louisville game until late Saturday. Since I was DVRing the game, and was late getting to it, I sat and watched the Nebraska-PSU game with my dad. That wasn’t at all uncomfortable. He had a pained look cross his face anytime they showed a crowd shot with any signs in support of Paterno.

We had talked a bit about the scandal before, and he was so disgusted by all of it. He’s not a delusional Penn State grad. His feeling is that the whole administration. The whole staff has to go. There is no way that this wasn’t some dirty secret that they knew and were trying to hush for at least the last 9 years. Probably longer. Still to see a man he had respected. Believed had integrity. Falling like this is a blow. Yet he still wanted to watch the game, and so we did. It was a very quiet room, though.

Now, about that Pitt win over Louisville. Were it not for three aspects of the offense, you could be forgiven if you thought this was a rerun of a Pitt game from last year. Pitt ran the ball almost 2-1 over passing. Pitt controlled time of possession (for only the second time this season, USF being the other). The total passing yardage was sub-200, but the completion percentage was over 70%. The yards on the ground were more than yards in the air. The offense didn’t try to go too fast and very clearly was trying to stay on the field.

 

 

So what was different? Well, the QB ran voluntarily — and effectively. Rather than one running back getting all the touches with only occasional changes of pace for the back-up. It was very much both backs splitting time as the carries/touches were split really evenly. Zach Brown had 15 carries and 2 catches — 75 total yards. Isaac Bennett had 13 carries and 2 catches — 89 total yards. Finally, despite, Pitt definitely playing slower than Coach Todd Graham tried to have to team operate for most of this season 73.67 through the first 9 games, Pitt still ran 68 plays on offense. Last year the team was below 64 plays in an average game.

Obviously necessity played a large, large role in this game plan. The injuries — primarily to the offensive line — have crippled the ability of the team to run the offense in any semblance of what was envisioned. With Lucas Nix still out — along with Jacobson and Rotheram for the season — Pitt had its seventh different starting 5 on the O-line this season. Pass protection is a weak spot on the O-line. Plus, the more times Sunseri is allowed to throw the more likely it becomes that he will drift into his bad habits: holding the ball too long and not setting his feet when he throws.

It was also a very windy day, which played into keeping the ball on the ground more. Pitt coaches put together a conservative game plan for the game, and it was effective. Injuries to Louisville this season have been to their D-line. Making them more vulnerable to the run, and Pitt exploited it, along with short passes in the middle of the field. Taking advantage of linebackers trying to play closer to the line for support to the D-line.

The receivers definitely looked good as an overall unit as they have all season. Devin Street had another very good game. Mike Shanahan was reliable. It helped that Sunseri was making good throws. Even a good deal of the incompletes came from drops rather than just a bad bass.

Grinding is the best way to describe the action. Pitt kept going at Louisville. Mistakes were kept to a minimum.

The defense played a very good game. Other than the TD in the final couple minutes when Pitt was up by 2 TDs, Louisville was very limited all game. They had one very good drive to start the game, but ended on a Carl Fleming (where did he come from?) interception. All game, you could see flashes of how good and scary Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater will be, but in this game Pitt made him look like a freshman QB.

This has been a rough, disappointing season. This win doesn’t mean Pitt finally found themselves. It will still be an issue to get bowl eligible. It just means for one game, Pitt didn’t let the game get away from them. They got the win. And for at least one week, Pitt fans don’t have to bemoan missed opportunities costing the game.





Instead we’re left to bemoan even further the missed opportunites against Cincinnati. Hahaha. As happy as I was with the results from Saturday, I did keep coming back to those two 2nd half turnovers the week before…

Comment by JW 11.14.11 @ 11:33 am

One correction, Chas: “Rather than one running back getting all the touches with only occasional changes of pace for the back-up.”

I believe our back-up RB got nearly a 1000 yards last year. I also remember the 2 previous years when the backup (LaRod in 08 and Graham in 09) playing every 3rd series except maybe crunch time in a close game.

Comment by wbb 11.14.11 @ 11:40 am

I watched the PSU game with my Dad too. Very similar experience. Now, I promise I will never eschew a Pitt game for a PSU game ever again.

Comment by Lee in Altoona 11.14.11 @ 11:41 am

So in other words, our best hope against the Hoopies and Cuse is pray for a very windy day.

Thereby limiting the Tino factor in the High Octane mix. Sounds like a plan to me ! haha

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 11:45 am

Btw, you guys are still on Daylight Savings time.

We occasionally get some WVU trolls and we don’t want to get them confused.

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 11:47 am

a 7-5 pitt as BE champs/BCS bowl participant. what a joke. the nat’l buzz created would be similar to MD’s uniform frenzy. not exactly great PR. beats the compass or obrady bowl though.

Comment by scott 11.14.11 @ 11:51 am

This will likely be the 2nd year in a row where the BE BCS rep is unranked.

actually, the BE BCS participant has pretty much been a joke post-ACC raid except for post 05, 06 and 07 seasons. Even Cincy (post 08 and 09) looked bad in the BCS .. in 08 against a 4-loss Va Tech.

Not that this is our worry anymore .. but I’m not sure the BE can retain its automatic BCS qualfier without Boise.

Comment by wbb 11.14.11 @ 12:12 pm

The president and CEO of the charity founded by accused child molester and former Penn State University assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky has resigned.

The Second Mile, a State College-based nonprofit that works with troubled children, announced the resignation of its top official, Jack Raykovitz, this morning. He had headed the organization for 28 years.

Read more: link to postgazette.com

Didn’t this guy, just a few days ago, say something like;

I know nothing.
I saw nothing

And of course he SAID NOTHING !

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 12:25 pm

Boise lost at home to TCU. Which means they get put into another crappy bowl more than likely.

Which would be two years in a row. Las Vegas Stripper Bowl or another inconsequential Who Cares Bowl. Much like my dear old alma mater.

Don’t know how much that helps the BigCountry Big Least.

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 12:29 pm

C’mon guys… Not one of you can say that Tino had a good game?!! The best that you can muster is that he ran the ball voluntarily? He had a good game, not a great game, but a good game. Give the kid some credit.

Comment by TruePantherFan 11.14.11 @ 12:32 pm

It wasn’t until November 2008 that The Second Mile took steps to keep Mr. Sandusky away from children.

Read more: link to postgazette.com

Nice to know this guy was on the ball, 2008 ….really. On the ball…whoops…my bad.

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 12:34 pm

The plot thickens:

In another development in the case, the judge who freed Mr. Sandusky on bail has done volunteer work for The Second Mile.

District Judge Leslie Dutchcot set $100,000 unsecured bond for Mr. Sandusky at an arraignment on Nov. 5. The state attorney general’s office, which has charged Mr. Sandusky with 40 counts of sex abuse involving eight children, had sought bond of $500,000 and electronic monitoring.

Unsecured bond meant that Mr. Sandusky did not have to post any money for his release. He pays only if he fails to make required court appearances

Read more: link to postgazette.com

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 12:37 pm

The Big 10 has removed Paterno’s name from its championship trophy … I bet that really hurts

Comment by wbb 11.14.11 @ 12:46 pm

Too funny….wbb

Considering they had to let Paterno make State Penn’s schedule this year.

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 12:57 pm

Sunseri had a good game? Okay, I guess I can’t argue that too much. Although those words don’t roll off the tongue very easily! We did win, and he kept the mistakes he usually makes to a relative minimum. He always seems to be teetering right on the edge of making a stupid play though.

Getting tired already of seeing the Penn State scandal topic seeping into every conversation on every Pitt message board and blog out there. Yes it is a relevant and current sports related topic. It has little to do with Pitt though, and I hate seeing it so prominent. I want to read about Pitt’s football game and the two basketball games over the weekend. And I have to wade thru innumerable Penn State related posts. It also makes Pitt fans look like they are taking some kind of glee in their situation, which is an absolutely shameful reaction.

Comment by JCE 11.14.11 @ 1:03 pm

JCE
Can’t agree more. Last week is over. Time to let it go. Can we talk Pitt now?

Comment by notrocketscience 11.14.11 @ 1:11 pm

amen.. jce… there is a place for that psu scandal… as terrible as it is.

Lets talk about PITT ! How about the Rider game… holy smokes.. we need sure up the D.

Comment by snala the panther 11.14.11 @ 1:20 pm

JCE, why is admitting Sunseri had a good game so hard? The fact is this .. a few weeks ago he had one the best passing games ever but he certainly didn’t do that alone .. just like his pathetic games weren’t done alone. He had plenty of assistance from his teammates in both cases.

Comment by wbb 11.14.11 @ 1:22 pm

wbb — It’s only hard because I have been psychologically conditioned by his play much of the season to think that he is lousy! He has had good games though, and while he has had even better, this week’s does rank among the good ones.

Comment by JCE 11.14.11 @ 1:45 pm

So when the coach slows the game down a little (a play every 20 secs, vice 15 secs) and tweaks his offense to do what it was built to do (run the ball more than pass it), we see a good result. Looks like there is some good in that time of possession stat…I thought the team played a very good game, and that includes Tino. Perhaps the best of year considering this game was on the road and the USF game was at home.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.14.11 @ 1:57 pm

I thought Sunseri played a very solid game. If he plays similarly each week, Pitt will be in good positions to win.

I wonder what Coach Graham will have to say? If 419 yards passing is “average,” what is 196 yards passing? Below average? Not up to par? Not what “I’m used to?”

Comment by bigslacker 11.14.11 @ 2:06 pm

Pitt needs to just get out of this season without any more bad press in Football (by limping into a crappy bowl and playing another crappy team— not a BCS). Sometimes, it is better to be low key, get the extra practice time, and leave the season without any fanfare for once.

Comment by PaulyP 11.14.11 @ 2:20 pm

Basically the lesson is that when Tino simply plays an average game and is not asked to do anything more than manage the game Pitt can win games.

I am still disturbed by the fact that we cannot connnect on one single pass downfield.

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.14.11 @ 2:22 pm

Pitt football is way too depressing to talk on and on about. Unless one wants to discuss our glorious bowl options and what they’ll be named by game time. Nobody has to read (or wade thru) posts that don’t interest them(that’s why mouses have a scroll wheel). We all have discussed the Rider game ad nauseum on the Pitt-Ville blog. Which is why it hasn’t been discussed on this blog.

Wow I can’t believe I’m taking heat for coming down on State Penn, from Pitt people. Are you Pitt people? Or are you related to the 2nd Mile somehow, ala the Judge? lol

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 2:44 pm

Hey, last year we beat an SEC team in whatever bowl that was … who cares what SEC team it was or that its coach was named Joker. The year before we beat an ACC team in its backyard.

The year before that was the last time (if memory serves) that our basketball team played the same time as our football team .. and most of us made the wrong choice.

Comment by wbb 11.14.11 @ 3:15 pm

Tino is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get!…good game when you expect a bad one, bad game when you expect a good one…so don’t expect anything and you won’t be disappointed!

Comment by Leaseman 11.14.11 @ 3:21 pm

Coach Ditka (shame on you for using this handle)

Tino was 16-22 (73% completion percentage) for 196 yards and a td. NO INTERCEPTIONS. His longest completion was 59 yards.

What are you referring to when you say no completions down field?

Comment by TruePantherFan 11.14.11 @ 3:39 pm

He means that any pass over 12 yards in the air is an adventure.

Comment by Chuck Morris 11.14.11 @ 3:50 pm

I don’t read the comment posts that do not interest me. The scroll wheel on my mouse is what I use to wade past them. If anyone finds Pitt football too depressing or unsuitable to talk about, I can direct you to several Penn State blogs to fill your needs.

On the subject of bowl games — I would have no problem with Pitt playing in a minor bowl game this season. I don’t care what it is called. If they go on to a bowl game and win it, that means their season ended on an upswing. It means they will have defeated Syracuse and/or WVU (or both), and gotten some needed extra practice time to boot. Plus, as a fan I get to watch them one more time. The bowl system is what it is. If Pitt has the opportunity, they should take advantage of it.

Comment by JCE 11.14.11 @ 3:54 pm

And you’re also condemning us to another mediocre fun season with Sunseri as QB. Sometimes taking a step backward, will get you a leap forward.

Dawdling in mediocrity is not for me, call me driven, call me crazy, just don’t call me average.

Comment by EMel 11.14.11 @ 4:01 pm

ummm TruePantherFan, have you watched a Pitt football game this year??

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.14.11 @ 4:26 pm

All you guys just gotta believe…Cincy loses 2 more, Rutgers loses 1 more, Panthers win the next two and we win the Big East!!!!…Easy!

Comment by Leaseman 11.14.11 @ 4:47 pm

The next five years will be very interesting for Pitt Football. If we can actually capitalize on the downturn of OSU and PSU, and the apparent uptick in the move to ACC, with a program building staff, thenwe might actually turn the proverbial corner…

My fear is that we are not going to make the “linear” improvements (as suggested by Dokish ad nauseum) to build this thing into a winner. Seems like all of these BBD (Bigger, better, deal) coaches like DickRod and Kelly tend to top out eventually.

As mentioned before, Graham made the fatal error of overpromising and underdelivering. One look at Tino Sunseri and he should have realized that this was a 6 win team (at best)… and spoke accordingly. He is also learnding the he has 30 years of fan misery, mediocrity and apathy to overcome…which isn’t easy…

Comment by PaulyP 11.14.11 @ 4:49 pm

My favorite part of our program: The refusal by each and all to run back punts.

Comment by steve 11.14.11 @ 4:55 pm

The worst thing that could ever happen to Pitt is to make it to fall ass backwards into a BCS game this year and subsequently get pounded by whomever we play. Finish 7-5 and play in some low level bowl where we can hide our incompetence and hope for better things to come. A bcs game should be a reward for a great year, not a reward for medicority in the nations worst conference. When we get to our next bcs game I hope it is because we deserve it and not because we were the default big east team like 2004.

Frankly, no big east team deserves to play in a bcs game.

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.14.11 @ 4:56 pm

You guys baffle me. You are actually hoping that we don’t win the BCS bowl slot and if we do happen to then perhaps we should refuse it?

How very generous of you to think that PITT has done so well over the last 30 years they can turn thier nose up at this opportunity… or that you’d have your insecurities trump what those players have worked hard for.

Give me a break. No, we try to win out and let the chips fall where they may. We play the best opponent we can on the grandest stage because, after all, that is what the whole goal of the season is.

Comment by Reed 11.14.11 @ 6:31 pm

You’re right Reed lets hope we get that bcs slot and lose to an Oklahoma 65-3…. because we will. Its not an “opportunity” because Pitt cannot beat any other team they would face in a bcs game. The only opportunity here is to embarrass the University and the players.

And lets further the embarrassment by not selling out our alloted tickets. YAY!

Really, can you imagine what any of the top 5 teams in the country would do to Pitt if we lined up tomorrow??? That would do more damage than good. Sorry but thats reality.

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.14.11 @ 6:38 pm

Most likely if we fall in ‘ass-backwards’ we would most likely play Clemson

It looks like ACC vs Big-East this year according to all the pundits

So…since we are headed to the ACC anyways…why not hope for a head start..we have to play all these guys soon enough. Might as well see what its like.

Comment by OliviaPitt 11.14.11 @ 6:43 pm

Of course if pitt would somehow make it to a bcs game (which is not going to happen anyway) I would watch every second rooting for the panthers but we all know the reality. I just feel that Pitt for this year would be better off playing in a second or third tier bowl with an opportunity to win and actually make some progress as a team. A bcs disaster is only going to breed a ton of negative publicity.

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.14.11 @ 6:52 pm

Reed, you are, of course, spot on. The season has been a roller coaster, and a bad one at that. But, give the team credit for not mailing it in, like some of us (me included) did. Frankly, as bad as I feel about the Penn State mess and the way that empire fell, I think of what Rahm told Obama “don’t ever let a good crisis go to waste”. Pitt can benefit from Penn State’s misery. And while, again, I am not rooting for that situation to get any worse, it does open up the opportunity for Pitt football to become relevant again in this area. The Penn State brand is DOA. They will be paying the price for years to come as somebody tries to rebuild that great university from the ashes. Meahwhile, Pitt has the opportunity to fill that void. The best thing to come out of Louisville is TG might not be as stubborn as we thought and maybe, just maybe, he can actually coach.

Comment by wally 11.14.11 @ 7:47 pm

I agree with Reed. I am baffled by the line of thinking that Pitt would be better off in a lower tier bowl. I don’t want to get crushed in a bowl game either — but I also don’t want Pitt cowering in a corner afraid of the big boys. If you want to play like the big boys, you first have to play WITH the big boys!

Comment by JCE 11.14.11 @ 8:11 pm

After watching Oregon beat Stanford. Bring on the “High Octane”.

Comment by Tackle made by Hugh 11.14.11 @ 11:24 pm

If this Pitt football team becomes bowl eligible and get’s an invitation to a holiday bowl game, it should accept it. The higher the bowl bid the better for the team and fans.

If Pitt ends up playing a team like say Alabama in a bowl game, so be it regardless of the outcome. There is no embarrassment in playing up and the experience of playing in a major bowl will only help the 2012 team set goals of returning to a BCS game and winning it not just getting the invitation. Let’s hope playing in a BCS game becomes infectious for this and future Pitt football teams.

But, this Pitt football team has to become bowl eligible first. Let’s not get the wagon before the horse, so to speak. HTP!

Comment by MariettaMike 11.15.11 @ 8:23 am

What are some of you smoking?(it must be some good stuff) BCS bowls, lol.
This team is 5-5 and might not make a bowl at all.
That is a more likely scenario than going to a BCS bowl.

Even at 6-6 we will only get a bid to the Weedeater Blimpy All You Can Eat Tuna Bowl, if all the other BigEast bowl slots aren’t filled up.
You know we don’t travel well to these ESPN fill up the weekday programming bowls.

I stand by my prediction earlier this year, Tino with be the MVP of said Tier 3 or 4 bowl. Thereby blessing us with his senior season as starting QB. I can’t wait!

Comment by EMel 11.15.11 @ 10:59 am

Whatever you guys are smoking, I want some. We are embarassing football team and program that has not shown, in 30 years, the ability to win on a “grand stage”… let’s pipe down a little bit here…. build a system, be patient, I get it…I’m willing to wait, but let’s nopt have delusions of grandeur.

Just beat our rival next Saturday. That’s all I care about at this point (and care is a strong word). We are, at best, a 6 win team. We have no business playing with real teams that deserve these BCS slots. When we do, I will crow about it. Right now, we don’t.

Comment by PaulyP 11.15.11 @ 12:14 pm

Noone here is expecting a BCS Bowl, but some are making the ridiculous assertion that Pitt should actually HOPE for something less.

Comment by JCE 11.15.11 @ 12:51 pm

Its really not ridiculous. This team does not deserve and is not ready for a BCS bowl game. Again this all hypothetical because there is no way it is happening anyway. How much did it help Uconn maing to a bcs last year and getting embarrassed? How much did it help Pitt in 2004 getting spanked by Utah?

What message does that send to a team that you can play like total garbage 75% of the year and get to a bcs game??? That doesnt motivate a team, if anything that makes them think its easy to get to the bcs so why work harder???

I really dont know why any pitt fan would really want to watch a total embarrassment on a grand national scale??? Its just not good for the team, the program, the fans, the sponsors, or anyone.

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.15.11 @ 2:07 pm

Not being ready for a BCS Bowl, and not wanting a BCS bowl aren’t the same thing. The argument that getting badly beaten in a BCS Bowl doesn’t help a team does not mean that the converse — doing well in a lower bowl — is true either. The message to the team should be reach for the top. Not reach for the middle. (Preaching that will DEFINITELY secure mediocrity.) If the middle is the best they can do this year — that is fine. But the message shouldn’t change.

Comment by JCE 11.15.11 @ 2:22 pm

I bet if you’d ask any of the players on the 2004 team if they regretted playing Utah in the Fiesta Bowl I bet you wouldn’t find one who would rather have played in the Beef O’Brady…

Comment by Leaseman 11.15.11 @ 3:15 pm

Not wanting to play in the biggest possible game smacks of “non-athlete” to me. Athletes want to compete at the highest possible level, even if they get blown out. Call it a warrior’s mentality, or whatever else you’d like. I don’t know of one true athlete in any sport that longs to play only against competition they know they can beat. It’s not about us as fans being embarrassed at the water cooler the next morning.

Is the Big East a joke, competitively speaking? Probably. Are there other teams out there that will deserve that spot more? Perhaps. But life isn’t fair, and the system is what it is. Even if the Big East BCS representative gets ripped, it helps expose a flawed system for what it is, and if nothing else, gives the kids some “combat experience” moving forward.

Hopefully, moving to the ACC will mean that playing like crap 75% of the time yields little/no reward. The BCS system really isn’t set up to reward “deserves”. IIRC, Pitt got jobbed out of at least a couple of Gator Bowls over the years because ND had a bigger draw. It cuts both ways and I’ll take the paycheck regardless.

Comment by thestumper 11.15.11 @ 5:41 pm

I agree with Coach Ditka. This team would only embarrass itself in a BCS game, no matter who they play. The interesting note about Clemson (who we would play…) is that they have the OC from guess where… Yep, Tulsa. You’d think TG would at least know how to defend ’em.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.15.11 @ 10:25 pm

Sorry, but you guys want the antithesis of what sports and competition are all about. In every aspect of competitive sports the challenge is to rise up and face the best opponent you can. It is the basis for setting championship goals before hand.

We deserve what we get by playing out the season. If that is a BCS game then we deserve it. This isn’t a popularity contest out there, it is week to week competition toward a previously stated goal.

And if you don’t think that playing in a BCS bowl is better for the program in the long run I’ll say you are just mistaken.

The fact that you all think we’d be ’embarrassed’ to be there or of what the outcome might be is centered on how YOU as a fan would feel, not how the players and staff view things. And I’ll tell you right now that if any PITT Head Coach ever voiced the same thoughts you guys are you’d have mass strokes, this blog would melt down and we’d run that coach out of town after being tarred and feathered.

Spare me the “reality” crap also. The reality is that we could get our asses kicked in a lower bowl as well as in a BCS bowl so that argument doesn’t mean anything. The reality is that PITT has to try to do the best they possibly can and to get the BE championship and most prestigious bowl game available. The reality is that the players who have worked so hard over the years deserve the best reward they can have.

As stated above – ask anyone of those 2004 PITT players if they would have rather played in a lower bowl. You know what the answer would be. Playing in a BCS bowl, even in losing, is something they can point to for the rest of their lives and something which separates them from the vast majority of college football players.

I’ll agree that this scenario will not happen, it would take some strange W/L combinations to do so, but I’ll say right now I’m hoping like hell it does. That you guys feel otherwise is both surprising and somewhat disappointing.

Comment by Reed 11.16.11 @ 7:46 am

Reed, couldn’t have said it better myself!…There is no shame or disgrace in being beaten by a better team, the disgace is in not wanting to compete against such a team for fear of losing!

Comment by Leaseman 11.16.11 @ 12:16 pm

Once we lose to WVU and Cuse…this argument will be a moot point. So, let’s move onto Basketball…

Comment by PaulyP 11.16.11 @ 1:18 pm

PaulyP is a “glass half empty” kind of guy apparently. My spin on the rest of the season, control only that which you can and don’t waste time on that which you have no control. Bowl game, no bowl game, who knows? BUT it still is football season too!

Our “bowl” game comes a week from Friday in prime time on national TV. Just beat the Mountaineers and move along, move along.

How many more “Backyard Brawls” are there going to be anyhow???? Just kick WVU’s ass, please?

Talking bowls games at this juncture is a total joke, hahahahahahaha, thats LOL in longhand.

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