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September 26, 2011

GRAHAM’S PASSING GAME

Filed under: Coaches,Football,Players — Reed @ 11:36 am

   A key point to understand when talking about Graham and staff’s aerial attack is that this offense’s short & intermediate passing game requires the ball to leave the QB’s hand in between two seconds and three seconds respectively.  That’s what they mean when they say “One, two, go!” and “One, two, three, go!”; the shorter period on the pure passing plays and the longer on the pass off of the option fake or the deep ball attempt.  On Saturday’s broadcast, Urban Myers, who knows a thing or two about football, said that protection from the OL is designed to hold for between 1.5 – 2.0 seconds on a three-step drop (or shotgun).

   This is what is driving Graham and Magee/Norvell crazy and why before and after each game our HC keeps talking about the ball being held too long.  The QB in this system has to combine quick recognition with a quick release to get these plays started.  Ideally, the targets for this quick pass will be speed on the receiving end.

   I was timing some of Sunseri’s ‘snap to release’ on Saturday and he was averaging between three to five seconds for almost all the plays I timed.  On the plays where he did get the ball off immediately he was usually able to complete the pass and make a good, accurate throw to the receiver.  But it seems like those plays have to almost be scripted in for him to make that work.

We saw an example of this on our last drive against ND at the end of the game Saturday. We went to a series where the plays that are called don’t require much decision making by the QB but are planned to get the ball directly into the designated receiver’s hands. You’ll see either a no back set or no option-read on most those plays.

   In that series, notice Sunseri’s receivers when he was completing passes where these quick hitters were called, or where he went right away to his safety valve in Ray Graham out of the backfield.  Sunseri played well when he made six of seven pass attempts to our quick, speedy players – it worked as it should have.

1st and 10 at PITT 20 Ray Graham rush for 1 yard to the Pitt 21.
2nd and 9 at PITT 21 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Cameron Saddler for 8 yards to the Pitt 29.
3rd and 1 at PITT 29 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Joshua Brinson for 3 yards to the Pitt 32 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at PITT 32 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Ronald Jones for 8 yards to the Pitt 40.
2nd and 2 at PITT 40 Ray Graham rush for no gain to the Pitt 40.
3rd and 2 at PITT 40 Timeout PITTSBURGH, clock 04:25.
3rd and 2 at PITT 40 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Ray Graham for 7 yards to the Pitt 47 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at PITT 47 Tino Sunseri pass incomplete to Anthony Gonzalez.
2nd and 10 at PITT 47 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Ray Graham for 13 yards to the NDame 40 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ND 40 Tino Sunseri sacked by Aaron Lynch for a loss of 9 yards to the NDame 49.
2nd and 19 at ND 49 Tino Sunseri pass complete to Ray Graham for 4 yards to the NDame 45.
3rd and 15 at ND 45 Tino Sunseri sacked by Prince Shembo for a loss of 11 yards to the Pitt 44.
4th and 26 at PITT 44 Tino Sunseri pass incomplete to Mike Shanahan.

Overall, 13 of Sunseri’s 21 completions in the game went to the four quick receivers; Saddler, Jones and Brinson and Ray Graham, all who played key parts in that last drive.

   This is what Todd Graham is talking about when he says that a large part of our passing game is designed to be ‘long handoffs’.  But also shows the type of receivers we are beginning to field this season as this offense needs fast off the mark WRs, guys with the ‘quick-twitch’ muscles if you will.  We really didn’t have that type of receiver returning on roster and ready to play with any regularity, save Saddler.

   What we do have as WR starters are Shanahan and Street who, in their own right, are very good receivers but don’t fit the criteria mentioned above.  Quickness and speed is not the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about those two.  They are good at getting open for the longer intermediate and deep routes however. They have been a big part we know, we’ve had successes with them and they will be a solid component.

But in the future we can’t live by passing to them, or to our 3-backs Graham, Carswell and Gonzalez, alone.  In the long run the Graham offense is built for more speed in the receiver corps to maximize yards after the catch and we must to have that to open up his playbook.  For this reason I think we’ll see more of a shift to plays called for the speedier players as the season progresses and as we saw Saturday.

   This is what we are seeing in our staff’s recruiting efforts also.  The emphasis on receivers now and in the future is going to be, you guessed it,  speed and more speed, which is evidenced by 1st year guys Jones, Brinson and Darius Patton (who we’ll see more of) getting more playing time at receiver as the season progresses.

  But, to go full circle, it again demands a QB who can make those quick decisions and can get the ball released in the minimum amount of time.  Along with that, our QB has to be able to sell the keeper rush off the option.  He needs to be able to hold the LBs and slow down the pass rush if they think the QB has the ability to make gains on those option plays.  We did see Sunseri execute the option more against Notre Dame and it worked pretty well, but it has to be a normal part of the QB play and not the exception.

We’ve recruited QBs who fit the needed pass/run criteria already, one in Anderson and we have Voytik ready to come onboard for 2012.  At this point no one knows how our QB position will shake out over the remaining eight games, but we do know that we need to see a more positive change in fundamental QB play from our starter if we want to have a decent shot at a winning season.





Auburn is an SEC team with SEC athletes, many of whom are the type suited to play in multiple offenses because they are THAT GOOD. Pitt does not have those players. Height has nothing to do with it, its foot speed, quickness, etc. I love Shanahan but he is by far not an ideal spread receiver.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 8:29 pm

Answer…..not soon enough!

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 8:29 pm

Melvin,
I’m done posting for the night because I think we have started to argue silly points and get farther from Pitt. But here’s something interesting I just found since I didn’t follow Auburn that closely until last year:

Texas Tech head football coach Tommy Tuberville could still be coaching at Auburn had he not switched to the spread offense and suffered through a series on unfortunate events, according to Anniston, Ala., Star newspaper sports columnist Joe Medley.

However, the columnist writes, Auburn is in a better spot now for having gone through the shift to a spread offense thanks to Tuberville’s initiative.

Medley revisited Tuberville’s 2008 season, Tuberville’s final season at Auburn, and cites former Auburn offensive coordinator Tony Franklin’s rift with other Tuberville assistants as a key reason Auburn sputtered to a 5-7 record – just Auburn’s second losing record during Tuberville’s ten-year tenure there.

Tuberville had coached Auburn to a 5-6 record during his first year as head coach in 1999 and didn’t have another losing record until the 2008 season, including a 13-0 record in 2004. He resigned from Auburn at the end of the 2008 season.

“In all likelihood, Tuberville would have fared well enough to maintain his job, had he gone another year with (previous Auburn offensive coordinator Al) Borges and the old approach,” writes Medley.

The columnist also said injured quarterback Chris Todd , who ironically had started his collegiate career at Texas Tech and transferred to a junior college after backing up Graham Harrell during the 2006 season,

Comment by Tony Dews and Dont's 09.26.11 @ 8:31 pm

About the comment, “Bring back Walt” despite what any of you might have think about Walt Harris, he saved Pitt football. Before he came, I thought respectable Pitt football was lost forever. Walt resurected the program. Another thing, he insisted that his quarterbacks understand and execute their progressions. And for what was supposed to be a West Coast offence Pitt threw downfield well and often. Pitt seemed to own Virginia Tech in the Harris years. He was a tough to play for, but a good game coach. His recruiting suffered when the Big East lost the Miami, Va Tech abd BC and conference’s survival was in doubt.

Comment by Justinian 09.26.11 @ 8:32 pm

@ Ontario

OK Tulsa then, they didn’t have better athletes than PITT. TG went to Tulsa in 2007, went 10-4 in his 1rst Year and:

Tulsa ranked 1st in the nation in total yards per game, ahead of Texas Tech and Hawai?i, and with a more balanced attack than both teams.[4] The Golden Hurricane also ranked 3rd in the nation in passing[5] and led their conference in scoring. Tulsa became the first team in NCAA history to have a 5,000-yard passer, a 1,000-yard rusher and three 1,000-yard receivers in a single season.[6][7]

Same players as the previous year, and I assume, unless they had skill set transplant operations, they all had the same skill sets as the previous year.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 8:38 pm

Now after two very tough losses, Pitt really needs to win the game with South Florida. Let’s hope that the Panthers can put a complete game together.

Comment by Justinian 09.26.11 @ 8:41 pm

I can find lots of other examples if you wish to proceed with this.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 8:42 pm

I’m going to admit I know nothing of what Graham inherited from Kragthorpe at Tulsa. I’m not positive if they ran a spread or pro-style offense. I highly doubt it could be as vanilla and focused on running the football as Wanny’s O, but don’t know.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 8:43 pm

I am a little confused if you are trying to point out that Graham is a great coach or terrible coach?

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 8:44 pm

“Auburn is an SEC team with SEC athletes, many of whom are the type suited to play in multiple offenses because they are THAT GOOD. Pitt does not have those players.”
Comment by OntarioLett’sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 8:29 pm

I also challenge this stmt. While indeed Auburn was really good last year. The year previously they were only 8-5 and the year before that, the one I highlited with Chris Todd at QB they were a less than average team at 5-7. They even lost to Vanderbilt and got beat by WVU 34-17.
Pitt was 10-3 that year and had a better team and obviously Better athletes. Pitt was #15 that year, Auburn pretty much stunk at 5-7.

So while things might look one way based on a general statement that they have SEC athletes and that looks good on paper. Upon further research, that is exposed as being a bogus stmt in the year in question, 2008.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 8:52 pm

Kragthorpe ran the same offense he ran at Louisville, a pro-set.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 8:55 pm

better team does not = better athletes….Pitt was playing in the Big East week in and week out, Auburn in the SEC. I love Pitt but, what do you think Pitt’s record would have been in the SEC? not 10-3. Probably below .500

Regardless, as TonyDews and dont’s pointed out. Auburn already had spread personnel because they were running a spread, with a QB who was recruited to play in a spread at Texas Tech.

I’m not going to argue about this anymore. Have a great night.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 8:57 pm

Marv Levy says our type of offense exhausts the team’s defense because they are on the field so much….

link to nytimes.com

Comment by velvil 09.26.11 @ 8:59 pm

Anyway I’m outta here, I’m tired of discussing reasons why Tino stinks and why this offense is a clunker. (see middle part of sentence)

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 9:00 pm

at least we can agree on the middle of that sentence.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 09.26.11 @ 9:03 pm

We all know what cures a lot of this talk, from either side……..has an early chance this week to do it. Here’s hoping!!!

Comment by Dan 09.26.11 @ 9:38 pm

yes Dan heres hoping. god nite to all and may god keep you all safe

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.26.11 @ 10:19 pm

Thank you Frank, and you also!!

Comment by Dan 09.26.11 @ 10:49 pm

The OC at Clemson was the OC at Tulsa last year and look at what they have done with a talented soph qb totally changing their offense. They also have one of the best true freshman WR in the country. This is where Pitt will be once the right people are in place.

Comment by JP 09.27.11 @ 5:12 am

Hope you are right JP.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.27.11 @ 9:25 am

One remark look at Tulsa’s record the previous 3 years before TG. The records were the same. He did not rescue Tulsa. They had a good team for the USA conference well before he got there. So implying he rescued Tulsa is simply wrong.

Comment by DRW 09.27.11 @ 1:04 pm

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