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September 24, 2011

On the bright side, my daughter and I had a very nice day together. I just want to get my own thoughts down and out before reading comments and recaps. Tired and disjointed though they may be.

In the abstract, this could have been considered a positive. No Chris Jacobson on the O-line. A ND team that scored 82 points in their first three games. There wasn’t a lot of confidence in Pitt to win this game, so the fact that it was so tight could be considered a good sign going forward. But…

No. It felt, instead of more of the same so far this season.

Neither team “deserved” to win this game. They both played bad football. Both failed to capitalize on opportunities and the mistakes of the other team.

In the end, Pitt missed more opportunities. In the end, the same problems we have seen in the first quarter of the season happened in this game. It is hard to say that they won’t keep happening.

The defense wilting in the 4th quarter after playing so well for three quarters.

The defense not able to stop the underneath pass

The secondary not getting the turnovers.

A very questionable coaching choice that looks foolish for being too aggressive.

A quarterback that freezes in the moment when he needs to be decisive and make the play.

Where to start?

The defense. Once more a 4th quarter rolls around and the defense cannot hold. It was only for one drive, but in this game, that was all it took. We all knew it was coming, and it was a feeling of such helplessness as it unfolded. Notre Dame started moving the ball on that drive, and you could see the confidence of the defense sag.

I haven’t seen Coach Graham’s post-game comments yet.  From where I watched the game, the defense looked gassed. Coach Graham has insisted that it wasn’t physical exhaustion in previous games, but mental mistakes and confusion. When you are tired, you make mistakes. That was a tired defense.

Notre Dame really does have a good, big offensive line. And as the game went along, you could see that the Pitt D-line was getting worn down. Unable to get the same pressure they brought in the first half, and even in the 3d quarter to make Rees struggle. On that game-winning drive, Rees was 8-8 and untouched. Something we saw last week with Iowa. The guy next to me bitched through the entire 4th quarter about the lack of pressure. But that was as much do to ND’s size and strength as anything. They could push Pitt back, and that was also apparent on the short surges needed to pick up first downs on 3d and short (anything under 3 yards) situations.

With all the time Rees had in the 4th quarter drive, it shouldn’t be a shock that Pitt was picked apart. Michael Floyd washeld in check, but TE Tyler Eifert and WR Theo Riddick continued to find spots underneath and over the middle.

The secondary played stronger today, but they continue to drop interceptions. Jason Hendricks came up with one, and that just felt like it was because the law of averages said they had to hold on to one at some point. Missed chances to get off the field. Missed chances to help the offense.

Then there is Tino Sunseri. Sigh. It’s not that he played a terrible game. It’s that when the game becomes tight, so does he. He forgets to play in the system. Holding the ball. Not being aware of anything. Throws that lacked touch. After the ND score, he moved the team, but was holding the ball longer. When Pitt finally moved into ND territory, it caught up to him with two sacks. Rather than even having a chance to tie with a FG or win, Sunseri sent Pitt backwards. On the bright side, he didn’t toss an interception or turn the ball over.

And there is the decision by Coach Graham to go for 2 after Pitt scored their only TD of the game in the 3d quarter. It would have given Pitt a 14-7 lead rather than 13-7. That one was second-guessed right away. Chasing points too early. Being too aggressive once more.

I do get that, but I don’t have a problem with it. With the 4th quarter coming and how Pitt’s defense has performed in that quarter, I all but assumed ND wouldn’t at least get one TD. Kicking the extra point meant still trailing by 1 if/when ND scored a TD and converted the extra point. The thing that makes it galling was seeing ND easily convert their 2-point conversion for a 3-point lead.

There really isn’t much time to dwell on the game. Big East play starts on Thursday night with USF coming to town





Pitt’s defense played well enough to win, so did special teams and we didn’t turn the ball over. The offense just couldn’t deliver. Tino is playing as well as he ever will. He would be a nice backup, but won’t be a guy who will lead this team to a championship. We need to be patient, it will take a year or so to get players who can play in Coach Graham’s system. Hail to Pitt.

Comment by Panther Fan in Hoopieland 09.25.11 @ 12:21 am

Can’t disagree with anything here. It was another one of those games all to familiar to Pitt fans: We go in knowing we are overmatched and will probably lose and maybe lose big, but we play just well enough to get to the point of victory, and then it crashes.

Frustrating and tiring…

One issues that bugs me. Pitt controlled the clock a little better including the 8 1/2 minute drive to open the 3rd quarter. Yet the defense still tired. Do you think the tiring defense wasa sign of the up-tempo pace of our own offense, just the size and strength of ND wearing us down, or poor conditioning? Or lack of substitution?

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 09.25.11 @ 12:26 am

I usually agree with most of your commentary Chas. I have to disagree here. The defense played a heck of a game. We kept a pretty good Notre Dame team in check and forced some turnovers. Aside from one slip (the long run) we only allowed one really strong drive. Really proud of the D today. They were exciting to watch.

If the defense was tired, it was because our offense once again didn’t come through.

This team is going nowhere with Sunseri at the helm. It just comes down to that. We’ll play well enough based on the talent of the rest of the team to win a lot of Big East games. But when it comes down to it, we’ll fall short of a BCS game again if Sunseri is running this squad. It’s becoming clearer then every that he just doesn’t have the talent or the smarts to perform at this level.

It’s not just that he is making some mistakes here and there. That would be OK, everyone makes mistakes. But he just can’t make any plays (outside of 10-15 yard completions). If you’re going to make mistakes, you need to come back on the other end by making some place, threading some balls into tight spots.

Comment by Tony Dews and Don'ts 09.25.11 @ 1:12 am

Also I think I’ll have trouble getting excited for any future games if the press continues to pretend that we don’t have a QB problem.

Comment by Tony Dews and Don'ts 09.25.11 @ 1:13 am

For me there were a few keys here. First, I think the D played very well, but I complained all game about the dropped or missed INTs. They gave up a drive in the fourth quarter, but it was ND’s only drive, so it isn’t really that they only gave up one drive. They still have not been good on D in the fourth quarter.

Outside of that, a few things cost us this game. Devin Street dropping the pass changed the game for Pitt. We go from being far across the 50 with a first down to punting. That is likely points off the board. Even worse was the sweep call on 3rd and 1 from the 2. Just go straight ahead and get the one yard and take 3 more shots at the end zone. That call is 100% on the coaches and was a 4 point swing. Then there were two passes missed by Pitt receivers- both slightly over thrown, that would have been touchdowns. We leave too many points on the field. With the way the offense held the ball in the fourth quarter, we get more points on any 1 of those 4 drives and we win the game.

And, of course, Tino taking those sacks didn’t help.

My final concern has been the lack of getting Hubie Graham involved the last two games. Or even Zach Brown. There was talk of saving trick plays for our real competition, but we seem to be doing less offensively now than we did against Maine and Buffalo.

Comment by kanyon40 09.25.11 @ 1:50 am

If its and buts were candy & nuts……

How would have this game played out had usually sure handed Shanahan made that catch on Anderson’s 40 yard pass in the 2nd quarter. And had Pitt scored in that drive. Even if they don’t
score, the kid would have completed the longest pass, actually in the air at Pitt since Stull was QB. Does Trey became the QB or would TG sit him back down. He did his job, he laid the ball out there, it wasn’t short armed, underthrown or overthrown by 10 yards. It was where ONLY Shanahan could catch it. And that is what real QB’s do. Perhaps Shanahan was amazed that the ball actually was thrown on target for 40 yards, having played with Tinny for the last several years.

All I got to say, Tino was saved there by Shanahan not catching that. That would have electrified the crowd and maybe have been the end of Tino as a starter.

But alas it was not to be.
The Tino tragedy continues. It will only end when he uses up his eligibility.

Fin

Comment by melvinbennett 09.25.11 @ 2:15 am

Not that I am defending Tino, because he has missed many passes this season, and he took two sacks that were unacceptable on the last drive this game… but let’s be fair about Trey Anderson. He threw a nice ball and Shanahan missed it. His only other pass was a five yarder that he threw into the ground three yards in front of his open receiver. And Sunseri also put the ball right in Street’s hands- in double coverage- where only he could get it. But Street dropped it. This game wasn’t lost only because of Sunseri. Though with a better QB it may well have been won. From what we saw of Trey Anderson today, I am not sold that he is that QB yet.

Comment by kanyon40 09.25.11 @ 2:34 am

From what we saw of Trey Anderson today, I am not sold that he is that QB yet.
Comment by kanyon40 09.25.11 @ 2:34 am

Ok so we’re going to judge the kid based on 3 plays.
And we’re NOT going to judge another young man based on 17 games and countless plays.

Makes sense to me.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.25.11 @ 3:23 am

I don’t think that the defense was tired in the 4th qtr at all today. The D played as well in the 4th Qtr as it did in the first three. The difference was that for 1 drive in the 4th Qtr, the ND QB played well and they didn’t have any costly penalties. Our defense isn’t great, and ND should have scored more points, but kept shooting itself in the foot. Against Iowa, everyone was open in the middle because Pitt couldn’t cover. Today, there were open guys mainly because Pitt keyed on taking Floydd out of the game – and it worked. When you do that, other Wrs/TEs will make some plays, but given that ND ended with 15 points, the defensive game plan went well and they executed better today than in any of their previous games – if only they could catch errant passes thrown right to them. To say that this defense couldn’t hold the lead is misleading. ND scored one time in the second half, and there was 6 minutes left for Pitt to drive down the field and tie and take the lead back.

Pitt lost this game because the offense failed. Three key plays were (1) the missed 2 point conversion – I don’t have a problem with the decision, but the play call itself was ridiculous. It looked JV. You had momentum, just run a play; (2) Street’s drop in the 2nd drive of the 3rd Qtr, which would have given us a least a reasonable field goal opportunity. Absolute killer; and (3) The sack-4yd pass-sack combo on Pitt’s last drive – it just encapsulated the problems that the offense is having. Tino couldn’t decide who to throw, so he decided to stand there and do nothing, as if he was afraid to throw a pick, so he wouldn’t let go.

Comment by Brett97 09.25.11 @ 3:39 am

Notre Dame had scored 20, 31, and 31. Defense played well. Hold a team in college to 15, you should win the game.

Took one of the top receivers in the country out of the game.

Yes, one long run, but pretty much held ND running game in check.

Was happy that Coach Graham was not afraid to make at least a couple adjustments. QB sneaks several times instead of a shotgun, no back set. Also, lining up in the “I”. So, he can adjust, and is not totally stubborn.

Still don’t get the love for Tino. He wasn’t terrible today, but, something isn’t there. Throwing the ball away too quickly now, when at times, you have to make something happen. Taking terrible sacks at inoppurtune times.

What I still don’t get, whether it’s Tino or somebody else, they should be told, at least 7 or 8 (just picking some numbers) they have got to keep the ball and run. Even if only for a couple yards, to keep the defense honest. Hell, he even took off for 10 yards once.

Once or twice doesn’t keep them honest, you have to be a threat to really do it if the lane is there.

I don’t know, weren’t embarrassed, but, another win easily had, escapes us again.

Comment by Dan 09.25.11 @ 3:52 am

We have to get Trey Anderson more involved. Yesterday’s plays, combined with two weeks ago show, that he can hold his own out there. But the reality is that we haven’t even seen his strongest quality yet which is his running ability.

Sunseri did OK in that regard yesterday but he’ll never be the real running threat that this offense needs.

And to point to Anderson’s poor low pass as some sort of negative? How many times have we seen Sunseri do that in just one game? For a while last year I thought Sunseri was bowling cricket out there.

Get Anderson time with the 1st string during practice and make it a point to work him in. Maybe he’s not ready to start yet – we won’t know until he does, if ever. But we damn sure better get him ready to come off the bench if needed.

Comment by Reed 09.25.11 @ 5:51 am

D played well and were very well prepared this, except for the ND 9 throw scoring drive. TV guys were surprised how well the D was set up, confusing Rees (also not a world-beater!).

Trey made a good, but not quite awesome throw. He should start next week, if there’s any justice. The throw Tino made that was flagged for interference (which was a lucky call for us) was a poor, inaccurate heave, to the wrong side of the receiver. His 10-15 yard throws are usually fine. Sure he ran well a few times, but only because he did a few times; the D was so surprised and spread out that his slowness didn’t really hurt.

Bad call by coaches on the sweep at the one; TV guys were amazed as well. Dumb. Finally, some decent LB play, but also too many slow, goofy arm tackles or close your eyes and try to run into someone tackles. Also the O-line looked bad in the 4th; really overwhelmed at times.

Tino can not and will not threaten any D we play, with his arm or legs. Give Trey or anyone else a chance

Comment by dbricker 09.25.11 @ 7:04 am

BTW – Anderson’s deep throw to Shanahan was another 50+ yard (in the air) pass.

Let’s put to rest the kid has a weak arm.

Comment by Reed 09.25.11 @ 8:05 am

A coach molds a team and evolves it into a style of play that matches his coaching philosopy. TG coach what you have , don’t coach a system. Take 2 years of your recruiting to fit your system but evolve into it. Don’t just plug players into your pre-determined roles, coach the players not a system.
TG plays little ball from his days at Tulsa and Rice where he was going up against Ok.and Tex and had to surprise the bigger opposition. That explains why he calls a sweep from the 1 yd line against ND and takes a 4 yd loss rather than tighten up the chin strap and run up the middle twice if necessary.
TG thinks he has to outsmart your opponent on every play (ie Pitt’s 2 point conversion attempt). Pitt’s not Ok or Tex but they are bigger than any Tulsa or Rice so on offense tighten up the chin strap and hit someone don’t rely on finesse.
We waste timeouts on offense leaving the defense without any timeouts to work with to get the ball back.
TG appears to be Dick Rod 2 not working with what he has until he can collect the players to make his system work, and we know how Dick Rod turned out. Look at Michigan today, Brady Hoke is a pro set coach who planned to convert Mich back but he looks at the talent he has , abandons his system , and wins with the spread offense. Will Hoke stay with that system ? NO! But will evolve into his pro style sets.
TG be a coach not a computer programmer trying to develop an automated system.

Comment by Spindler's Spirit 09.25.11 @ 9:16 am

And Sunseri also put the ball right in Street’s hands- in double coverage- where only he could get it. But Street dropped it.

Tino’s ball to Devin — the one that Devin straight-up dropped — was underthrown by like seven yards in double coverage. It was an opportunity only because Devin came back on the ball and out-leapt the two d-backs to make a play on it.

Comment by JB 09.25.11 @ 10:22 am

A couple of years ago the Bills had Trent Edwards at quarterback . . .he couldn’t complete a deep ball . . so the Bills fan came up with this tribute(roast) . . it reminds me of Tino who did not complete a pass of longer than 18 yards yesterday . . .he is turning into Trent aka “Captain Checkdown” . .this about sums up my feelings on the loss . . just insert Devin for Lee(Evans)

link to youtube.com

Comment by Wannstache 09.25.11 @ 10:34 am

Losing Jacobson hurts on the field, with the Panthers tied with Akron for last in the nation in sacks allowed (19). But it also hurts the team’s emotional state. Teammates unanimously voted Jacobson a co-captain.

With two of the first 3 games played against scrub teams Buffalo & D2 Maine, how in the world can Pitt first in sacks allowed in the NATION.

Oh,,,,,I forgot…..tinni

Comment by melvinbennett 09.26.11 @ 6:27 am

From what we saw of Trey Anderson today, I am not sold that he is that QB yet.
Comment by kanyon40 09.25.11 @ 2:34 am

Ok so we’re going to judge the kid based on 3 plays.
And we’re NOT going to judge another young man based on 17 games and countless plays.

Makes sense to me.
Comment by melvinbennett 09.25.11 @ 3:23 am

melvin, it is easy to try to make me look foolish if you don’t actually quote all of what I said. I said from the beginning of that post that Tino has made unacceptable, costly plays. My point was simply that just because Tino makes bad plays doesn’t mean that Trey Anderson (or any other QB) is automatically the answer. You went on about how Trey Anderson threw this beautiful pass that Shanahan missed. You left out that on the same drive he threw one straight into the ground on a shorter pass.

I want our QB situation rectified as much as the next guy, but Tino didn’t single-handedly lose us the game against ND- though his taking two sacks at the end certainly hurt. Likewise, even with his interceptions against Iowa, the defense lost that game. I hope Trey Anderson really is as good as you are certain that he is. Those three plays against ND were sure hard to draw a conclusion on- which is actually what I said. Somehow you took my “the jury is still out” (as I said I am not sure he is that QB *YET*) approach to Anderson as “he is a bum” while assuming that somehow I think Tino is the next Tom Brady. But I guess that it comes down to making everyone look stupid who doesn’t agree with everything you say.

Comment by kanyon40 09.26.11 @ 2:54 pm

Today, I went to the beachfront with my kids. I found a sea shell and gave it to my 4 year old daughter and said “You can hear the ocean if you put this to your ear.” She put the shell to her ear and screamed. There was a hermit crab inside and it pinched her ear. She never wants to go back! LoL I know this is totally off topic but I had to tell someone!

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