I have a dream. It’s been the same dream since this blog began. A dream of a solid O-line that does not feel as if plugged in spots with just a warm body. An O-line that inspires confidence, not concern. Oh, so briefly it appeared Pitt was getting there in 2008, but injuries showed the lack of depth. 2009, was the peak, but that quickly faded in 2010.
Now we stand at the beginning of the 2011 season, and at least the starters (for now) have been named.
Redshirt sophomore Juantez Hollins of Aliquippa has played his way onto the line at left tackle, moving Jordan Gibbs to right tackle and Lucas Nix of Thomas Jefferson to his more natural position of right guard.
Hopewell’s Ryan Turnley has won the center job, allowing Keystone Oaks’ Chris Jacobson to play left guard.
The signs had been there for the over a week that Coach Graham was going to keep Turnley at Center and have Jacobson go back to left guard.
All the first team practices had Turnley at Center. Jacobson’s only times playing center was with the second team. Again, this was not a surprise.While Jacobson might be a little better than Turnley at Center, he was far superior to any other option at left guard.
Lucas Nix was a lock to be on the line. The same could be said for Jordan Gibbs, who took the right tackle spot last fall after Greg Gaskins was removed from the starting line-up.
The disappointing — but unfortunately not that surprising — thing is that Gaskins did not win the starting job at tackle. After watching Gaskins struggle badly for the first month of 2010, I can’t say I’m upset by this. Juantez Hollins gets the nod after a very good camp.
“We are excited about the development of the offensive line,” Graham said. “Juantez Hollins had a really good scrimmage. We have good competition there. I like how we are developing our depth. [Hollins] is our starter right now. We went into the scrimmage with [Greg] Gaskins as the starter but came out with Hollins.
“Right now I feel like Hollins is a little ahead from a run blocking standpoint, while Gaskins is a little bit ahead from a pass blocking standpoint. The good thing about that, we feel good about where those guys’ development is. [Hollins as the starter] is how we will rep it all week.
“The two-deep is pretty much set and now we are working toward [the opener].”
Now that the Panthers have begun to work on their game plan for the Bulls, there isn’t likely to be much, if any, more movement on the depth chart.
Gaskins will be the third tackle, which means he is the first tackle off the bench, and the first guard off the bench will be redshirt sophomore Cory King, who until about a week ago was the starting right guard. Jacobson will be the backup center.
The first team had seven players competing. I would love for the entire second team to be ready to step in when called upon, but that is unrealistic right now. At the moment having two primary back-ups and the rest of the second team getting work during the season — hopefully to get closer to ready. Matt Rotheram and Arthur Doakes hopefully will get better as they continue to learn and practice.
One of the keys for Hollins to winning the starting gig — draining his right knee.
“I was trying to keep up with everybody even though it was hurting,” Hollis said of his knee. “I’ve been fighting through it. It loosened it up. I can bend it now. I can move better.”
Said coach Todd Graham, “All of a sudden, he got his knee drained, he got a smile on his face, and he’s looking impressive. He’s competing for a starting role.”
One interesting thing that came out of the competition for the O-line starting spots, is that it actually was a competition. I’m not saying that there was some residual cynicism from the competitions of the previous regime — okay, I am. It definitely was noticeable in the blog notes from P-G beat writer Paul Zeise. His perspective on competition — especially with the O-line — early in camp:
I know they say all the things on the record about ongoing competition and how important that is – but every coach I’ve ever talked to —- and this is my 12th year covering college football with seven different coaches (Ron Dickerson, Don Nehlen, Rich Rodriguez, Walt Harris, the former coach of this team and the Dolphins, Michael Haywood – well, for at least a few weeks – and Todd Graham) —— has told me, they want to get the offensive line settled as quickly as possible in camp because that unit takes the most time to come together and needs as many reps as possible as a unit. So my guess is, this unit will be put together by early next week and the guys will remain in place at least through the first game.
To the reality after almost an entire training camp:
Let’s try to make some sense of this stuff but keep in mind this — Todd Graham and company are really big about “earning your spot every day” as well as keeping the competition as heated as possible (Keith Patterson told me “we like to move guys around so they don’t get comfortable, stir the pot a little” – so while we have a really good idea about who is going to start, Graham was never fully committed to anyone at some of the spots that were up for grabs late last week.
I know I’m a little surprised they waited this long to settle the line. And while the 2-deep seems mostly set all over, a lot of it seems subject to revision.
This is not a bad thing. Especially after some obvious complacency last year.
I believe Hollins made the starting lineup due to his athleticism. Trouble is that the recent recruiting class seem to stress bulk on the OL .. Doakes, Rotheram and Johnson were well > 300 lbs
I can see why membership in Big Ten or ACC appeals to Pitt fans, but not the SEC.
Can you post any links to these SEC sites?
I wouldn’t say the whole SEC is academically void.
Vanderbilt is one of the finest academic schools in America.
Some of you guys obviously have this media created stereotyped idea of the South. As for the football mills, they are no different than those of the Big 12, the Big 10 and the PAC 12.
While I can’t see Pitt applying for the SEC, I don’t think it works that way. The conference has to have interest in you. But with everything upside down these days (even East Coast earthquakes) who knows !
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And then they could nab Oklahoma very easily.
These are natural rivals for present day SEC members Arkansas & LSU.(Texas vs. Arkansas use to be a huge game that had national implications similar to Pitt/Penn State)
Then when & if they go to 16 teams, they could add A&M and Okie State if the Texas & Oklahoma state gov’ts insisted upon it. And those two would jump in a heartbeat.
The whole adding an eastern/northern team like WVU or Pitt could be a smokescreen, similar to the story that Pitt would be the first added to the Big 10 and then Rutgers and/or Syracuse. All the while, Delaney was courting Nebraska.
SEC – U of FL, Vanderbilt
ACC – Duke, UNC, U of Md, U of VA
BE – Pitt, Rutgers
surprised that ND and Gerogetown aren’t included but it could be due to their size and the lack of reseacrh grants
If I was running the SEC, that’s the way to expand as you need lots more revenue from a new source to increase the overall revenue pie for the whole conference.
Would the Big 10 want their dreaded football rival (that being the SEC), have a school or two right in the middle of their conference geographically? That would cause Delaney to lose whatever little hair he has left. haha
And since the SEC has a better brand of football, a lot of Ohio, PA and other kids from states that would never think of going to an SEC school, now think twice because Pitt & WVU are local to them.
Not T A&M, and Va.Tech, FSU, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Clemson, Ga. Tech, NC St, UNC, Louisville, WVU, not one of these teams???
T A&M and Pitt?????????????????????????
Maybe we could try for the NFC central!!!! Lots and lots of money there!!!!
See, the one thing is, the conference has to want you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you at Happy Hour already !
Yea, Pitt could resurrect that old rivalry they have with Auburn, right.
Changing the subject…pulled this out of the Trib today…and if you look at the Seniors…there aren’t that many of them. If we can find two competent replacements for Jabcoson and Nix…and the D line is as good as everyone says it is with all that depth, we could be scary-good next year. Maybe not SEC good, but pretty freakin’ good.
OFFENSE
Position — Player — Ht., wt. — Class
Left tackle — Juantez Hollins — 6-5, 305 — Redshirt sophomore
Left guard — Chris Jacobson — 6-3, 295 — Fifth-year senior
Center — Ryan Turnley — 6-6, 320 — Redshirt junior
Right guard — Lucas Nix — 6-6, 310 — Senior
Right tackle — Jordan Gibbs — 6-7, 315 — Fifth-year senior
Quarterback — Tino Sunseri — 6-2, 215 — Redshirt junior
Running back — Ray Graham — 5-9, 195 — Junior
3-Back — Hubie Graham — 6-4, 230 — Redshirt junior
Wide receiver — Mike Shanahan — 6-5, 215 — Redshirt junior
Wide receiver — Devin Street — 6-4, 190 — Redshirt sophomore
Wide receiver — Cam Saddler — 5-7, 170 — Redshirt junior
DEFENSE
Position — Player — Ht., wt. — Class
Nose tackle — Myles Caragein — 6-2, 290 — Fifth-year senior
Defensive end — Aaron Donald — 6-0, 270 — Sophomore
Defensive tackle — Chas Alecxih — 6-5, 285 — Fifth-year senior
Inside linebacker — Max Gruder — 6-2, 230 — Fifth-year senior
Inside linebacker — Shane Gordon — 6-1, 230 — Redshirt sophomore
Outside linebacker — Brandon Lindsey — 6-2, 250 — Fifth-year senior
Outside linebacker — Todd Thomas — 6-2, 220 — Redshirt freshman
Cornerback — K’Waun Williams — 5-10, 190 — Sophomore
Cornerback — Antwuan Reed — 5-10, 190 — Senior
Safety — Jarred Holley — 5-10, 190 — Redshirt junior
Safety — Jason Hendricks — 6-0, 185 — Redshirt sophomore
Read more: Pitt settles on starters – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review link to pittsburghlive.com
LOL, great post, Jarred Holley huh??? hmmmmmmm.
My feeling about the O-line (and I might add, have heard nothing of from Zeise or anyone else)is: we were told early on that, in this offensive scheme the blocking is ‘zone’ blocking as opposed to man on man. And being that we were told repeatedly by TV commentator John Congemi during the Bowl, how athletic Tino is;
We have absolutely nothing to worry about. 🙂
I remember when President Nixon attended the Texas at Arkansas game when they were #1 & #2 in the country. Me thinks it was 1968 or 1969. And who can forget the great Okla-Nebraska games with Johnny Rodgers, Jack Mildren, Jeff Kinney, Jerry Tagge, Steve Owens, etc.
Pitt was never on TV back then so we’ve come along way. Now we just have to win when we’re televised. Haha
Break up the Big East, take back our ACC black sheep (except Miami — ’cause they’re brainless douchebag criminals), and pull in some old stand bys and regional foes. Wish the basically basketball only/catholic schools best of luck and thanks for the memories! Suggestions on conference names? I was batting around NEC (Northeastern Conference), Eastern 10, Big Atlantic (kinda cool), MAC Daddy (Mid Atlantic Conference), MDC (Mason Dixon Conference) — sorta sounds like a beer. Any thoughts?
River Division:
Pitt
WVU
Penn State (or Va. Tech)
Louisville
Cincinati
Coastal Division:
Syracuse
Boston College
UConn
Navy
Rutgers
Each team plays 8 or 9 conference games and 4 or 3 non-conference. You can still have Pitt-PSU or Pitt-WVU as last game every year, but the two division winners advance to conference title game. If the river division is top heavy, it will work itself out during the season anyway. If PSU can’t pony up, bring back V. Tech. And nothing gets named after Matt Suhey.
This prompted JoePa’s famous line a few years later about how he couldn’t understand how Nixon knew so much about college football in 69 and so little about Watergate in 73
Steve, not being sarcastic, maybe I am thinking of someone else????????
That that was one good thing besides ending the Vietnam War, Nixon did. Denied State Pen, a national championship.
@MattN
Forget about State Pen & Va Tech coming back. Nice idea, never going to happen. And you forgot about our newest and possibly best BigEast football member, TCU (certainly would have been the best the last several years). Hopefully the Providence crew locked TCU into the BigEast with severe withdraw penalties should the Big 12 come calling for them.
@Tony C…..that’s exactly right. And if Pitt did draw the best recruits from the North & midwest as well as recruit the South like we did in the Major’s, Sherril era we could most certainly compete and then some in the SEC.
If I remember correctly and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we kick Kentucky’s butt in the Bowl game. A few weeks earlier Kentucky had national champion Auburn ‘on the ropes’ in the 4rth quarter. And I seem to remember Pitt beating up on SEC champion Georgia in the Sugar Bowl a couple times. The SEC is good, but it’s that good that we couldn’t compete and win. Need I remind people that South Carolina (the Gamecocks !) won the SEC East last year.
Game ended up closer, but WVU beat them.
Are they the best, sure, but, they aren’t gods!!
Not at all, could we compete, of course. If Graham would have the program up and coming, the recruiting would really intensify.
Would we be in the championship constantly, no, of course not, but you got UK, Vandy, both Miss’s, Ark and Tenn up and down, again, the best conference, but, it’s college football.
My whole SEC thing was the geography and the lack of history. Really, the bottom line is, ain’t gonna happen, that’s all, no disrespect to our school or team.
Georgia had the deer in the headlights look, diving for tackles as WVU’s speed was allready down the field.
Total chaos for Georgia!!
Is T A&M going to tank in the SEC, absolutely not. They will hold their own, and every few years, you’ll see them in the champ. game.
As bad as it is, and totally agree, (I’m big on the geographical part of a conference), if it has to be, TCU may be a great addition. I’d love to see Pitt, WVU, TCU in the top 20 battling it out every year. Maybe bring some national relevance to the conference, and some great games.
Next to geography, I’m big on getting to 12 and being a “real” conference. I’d be happy if they just split, but, if we could get with 12 football teams at least, I could live with a 12 football and 16,18 or even 20 hoops.
I had always hoped for a Big Ten invite, where we belong geographically, and historically, but that’s not coming. Next best thing, would be for the Big East to shore up the football, move to the ACC, or have a hybrid BE-ACC.
Probably going to have to shore up the BE, and allthough none of the canidates have any wow factor, if we could somehow get Navy, to go along with UCF and Houston, I could deal with it.
My fear is, some speculate (tons of speculation I know, a lot of it crazy talk), but, some say TAM’s partner could be Louisville!! That would be worst case scenario. Then we are stuck with having to go get 4 teams!!
Talk has died down, but, pretty sure A&M is going, and SEC will be looking for 14th.
Hopefully Marinatto, Nordy and Smug Smile Steve are being proactive and looking at all the variables and making sure the BE is covered(Mariantto), and I hope Nordy is really pro active and making sure Pitt’s ass is covered in the end.
I have some faith in Nordy, little in Smug Smile Steve, and next to none with Marinatto.
One year S.Fla was top 5, but, most people laughed that off, rightly or wrongly.
Need the football schools to be in the top 10,15, 20.
People see S.Fla, Cincy in the top 10, they cringe and say it’s a one hit wonder.
IMHO.