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June 14, 2011

Football Leftovers

Filed under: Football — Chas @ 9:08 am

Not much right now. Boy, there isn’t much right now. I guess the quiet is good. Considering the programs getting the most attention for the past few weeks have been WVU and Ohio State, quiet is definitely preferable.

That seems to be what is still up for discussion.

Kevin Gorman talks to the top player in the WPIAL about what he has learned from the Terrelle Pryor stuff.

“I learned that at every college there’s something going on,” Hopewell star Rushel Shell said. “It’s just a matter of if you get caught.”

Now that’s cynicism I can get behind.

That brings us to Shell, the record-setting running back ranked No. 10 in the nation by Scout.com and No. 33 by Rivals.com. The 5-foot-11, 205-pounder, who should shatter the WPIAL career rushing record and is a good bet to break the state mark this fall, counts Alabama, Florida, North Carolina, Oregon, Pitt and Virginia Tech among his leaders, which change weekly.

Ohio State was considered Shell’s favorite last summer, when he wore a Buckeyes replica jersey with Pryor’s No. 2 to a WPIAL football media event. That was before the NCAA investigation involving players trading memorabilia for cash and tattoos, before it forced coach Jim Tressel’s resignation and Pryor’s premature departure.

The possibility of probation has soured Shell on the Buckeyes.

“Early in the recruiting process, they were up high, in the top two or three,” Shell said. “But I don’t want to go to a school where everything is uptight.”

Seeing Pryor become the scapegoat has shown Shell how fickle fans can be. Ohio State followers cheered the star quarterback as he led them to Big Ten titles and BCS bowl victories and chastised him for bringing a black eye to their Buckeyes, all while turning a blind eye to his behavior in between.

“No matter where you go, in-state or out-of-state, everybody will embrace you when you pick their school,” Shell said. “And they’ll do the opposite if something goes wrong.”

Yes, and? That shouldn’t be a shock to anyone.

As for Pitt and their boosters, well, they get a letter.

Graham said each booster receives a letter outlining NCAA rules and “what the boundaries are.” That procedure was in place before he arrived in January, but he said he follows up with a personal card “asking them to please (refrain from offering inducements that are against NCAA rules).”

“A lot of people don’t know what is illegal,” he said. “We have to be proactive because most people want to do things the right way. In this day and age the way it is, you have to constantly be proactive and educate, educate, educate, educate. Educate your players, educate your players’ parents, educate your boosters, educate your fans, educate the staff over and over and over again. Maybe that’s the high school teacher in me, but that’s what I believe.”

The sad reality, is all you can do is educate. You can’t risk alienating boosters by overregulating and restricting them. Same with the players. You can put more controls in place for the players to make monitoring and tracking better. That only works, though, if the player is obvious or lazy about breaking the rules — like Terrelle Pyror.

Then there’s the Joe Starkey column noting how both Dave Wannstedt and Bill Stewart left their jobs less than graciously — in no small part because the ADs tried to pretend it wasn’t a firing.

Which brings us to Lesson No. 3, one every athletic director should take to heart: When you decide to fire a coach, by all means, fire him.

Maybe this goes back to not wanting to make a “nice guy” look bad by abruptly severing ties when, in fact, it is the most humane thing to do. The overseers in these situations — Pitt AD Steve Pederson and West Virginia AD Oliver Luck — couldn’t let go. They allowed the resentment to fester.

They still haven’t admitted their coaches were fired.

It also had to do with the fact that both coaches loved the school, region and were “great ambassadors” respectively.

They just didn’t succeed in the job they were actually hired to do.

I never got the feeling Wannstedt and Stewart grasped the fact they were underachieving. Talking to Wannstedt over the past few years, you’d think Pitt was a perennial national power, not a perennial car care-company bowl contestant. Though both men inherited programs fresh off a Big East championship, neither managed to win an outright title in a league that went from underrated to pitiful during their tenures.

When you cede the conference to Cincinnati and Connecticut, you have failed.

That is not debatable.

I can’t disagree with that. Both could point to respectable seasons and how close they came to things (and technically both can claim a share of the Big East title this past year). But there was always something that went awry. A tough loss. One mistake too many. An injury not overcome. Never there, but they always took solace that it wasn’t their fault (in their own minds).





Chas, is Cruz a friend of yours, just giving you the business by chance??? On your Dixon article, he gave you some grief?? Has to be an inside joke. I mean, you give us football two or three times a week, in the middle of June. Actually, I don’t know how you do it, good articles and info, even though there is absolutely nothing going on.

Maybe he’d like you to write about what size shoes the players are wearing this year, and what hotel the university of Maine is staying at for the opener.

I’m gonna assume he’s a friend of yours busting your chops.

Comment by Dan 06.14.11 @ 10:12 am

I think Rushel Shell wants to be like Tony Dorsett and will pick Pitt!!!!!Now will he stay outta trouble?? or be a Terrible Pryor clone!!!Watch what u wish for !!!!

Comment by RandyRndyTime 06.14.11 @ 10:49 am

There is sometimes a big difference between results and expectations. Solich at Nebraska and Cooper at OSU were fired for only winning 8 or 9 games each year (11 game schedule) and not beating the rival (Okla & Mich.)

Cooper was replaced by someone who met and exceeded expectations but ended in shame .. and Solich’s replacement was a noted failure.

There is every reason to believe that the new coaches at Pitt and WVU will succeed … but only time will tell.

Comment by wbb 06.14.11 @ 12:06 pm

BTW .. While Starkey practically mirrored what I posted on this web site on Saturday about the ADs not being able to fire the coaches outright, I take exception to his implying that the 04 Pitt team was championship team. That team tied for first with 3 others in a 7 team league (that included 2 doormats.) With his reasoning, then Graham inherited a championship team since last year’s team tied with only 2 others in an 8 team field.

Comment by wbb 06.14.11 @ 12:51 pm

Wbb, thanks for pointing out the truth! I don’t know how many times I have read on this board that Pitt was a “BCS” team in 2004…Truth be told we simply won the losers lottery that year. We got in because 8-2 BC had an epic choke at home to 4-6 Syracuse in the last game of the season (actually, I think the Cuse blew them out). The wheels were coming off this team during that season. We could not gain a yard on 3rd or 4th and 1 to save our lives. We had no business being in a BCS game and got crushed like so many of those undeserving ND teams that weasle their way into a BCS game! For me, its a no brainer, Graham is inheriting a very good team, and he knows it.

Comment by HbgFrank 06.14.11 @ 1:08 pm

that 4-6 Cuse team actually tied for 1st with that 8 -2 BC team along with PItt and WVU.

TEAM CONF OVERALL
Boston College 4-2 9-3
Pittsburgh 4-2 8-4
West Virginia 4-2 8-4
Syracuse 4-2 6-6
Connecticut 3-3 8-4
Rutgers 1-5 4-7
Temple 1-5 2-9

Comment by wbb 06.14.11 @ 1:21 pm

A bigger indication of the quality of Big East football in 2004 is that Syracuse did indeed finish tied for first place. Had they not LOST to a 2-9 Temple squad that year, they would have won the OUTRIGHT conference championship. This is the same team that lost to Purdue by 51 to open the season, and Ga Tech by 37 to end their year:

link to espn.go.com

I’ll still never forget Diamond Ferri’s game against BC. He single-handedly beat BC, thus gift wrapping an undeserving BCS bid for Pitt.

Comment by 2004 BCS Champs 06.14.11 @ 2:53 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Pitt & PSU to play 2016 (Heinz) and 2017 (Beaver)

Comment by wbb 06.14.11 @ 3:06 pm

@wbb, I saw this, but I need more information, how did this just ‘happen’? Did they throw pappy to his fate to get this signed?

Comment by Benzene 06.14.11 @ 3:09 pm

Comment by Spats 06.14.11 @ 3:11 pm

Comment by wbb 06.14.11 @ 3:11 pm

Pitt vs. Penn State is back on!!!!!!!! Life is grand. Seriously, not sure I could have received better news on a random Tuesday in June.

Comment by Roman 06.14.11 @ 3:23 pm

This is beyond awesome!!!!

Comment by JAM 05 PITT 06.14.11 @ 4:04 pm

The real question is who will be the coaches on game day…10-1 odds Graham will have moved on by then and 25-1 that Paterno will be gone…

Comment by Marco 06.14.11 @ 4:09 pm

Thats 5 years from now. YOU could be dead by then

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.14.11 @ 9:52 pm

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