Pure speculation, but Terrelle Pryor would not have put Pitt, Michigan or Penn State in the position Ohio State finds itself in. Not because our or any of those schools somehow would have restrained his actions. But because I sincerely doubt he would have been able to go as far with such a blind eye turned by the Ohio State, administration and coaches, and let it come to this.
The comparison to what happened with Oklahoma and Brett Romar makes the most sense. Romar was one of a bunch of Oklahoma players found to be getting paid by an auto dealership/booster for basically showing up and not much else. It came out, and Bob Stoops flat out kicked him off the team for good. The Oklahoma program was not put at risk because of one talented and presumed starting QB.
Instead Pryor could put Ohio State in a hole that may take several years for them to recover on the field. Reputation-wise, even longer. The only solace for Ohio State fans, is they can wear their Scarlet-Gray glasses and blame everything on Pryor. Not at all the Ohio State football culture that Tressel helped foster. Not at all. It’s all Pryor’s fault. His greed. His reckless disregard. No other reason. Nope. Moving on.
Now, for some speculative fun. Aaron Torres does some alternative history theorizing about the 13-9 game. What if the Hoopies had won? DickRod couldn’t have left for Michigan with WVU playing Ohio State in the BCS Championship. Maybe Michigan makes a stronger offer for Les Miles. Maybe Pryor goes to WVU instead. Maybe if Ohio State beat WVU, Tressel is more secure in his legacy with 2 BCS Championships and doesn’t let Ohio State players and boosters go nuts. Maybe Mallet doesn’t transfer to Arkansas and Petrino doesn’t go to the Sugar Bowl last year…
Unaddressed in that is the Pitt side of things. Wannstedt got his extension before the game, but it’s safe to say the pressure on him would have been that much higher without the 13-9 game. And if WVU was still rolling with DickRod in charge, how much more pressure would have been on Wannstedt? Yes, it’s June and there’s little real news for Pitt, why do you ask?
Actually, here’s another what if from 2007. What if Bill Stull hadn’t been hurt in the opening game? Forget the issue of Pat Bostick’s career arc at Pitt, what about Kevan Smith? He was the redshirt freshman forced into action at first. That worked out horribly for him. No accuracy, and his athleticism was not much of a factor in the Cavanaugh offense. But what if he hadn’t gotten any real action and learned that he had no real future in Pitt football that year? Would he have still gone to baseball full-time after the 2008 season?
On that note, congratulations to Kevan Smith on being drafted in the 7th round by the Chicago White Sox.
Smith, an All-BIG EAST first-team selection in 2010 and 2011 tied all league hitters with a .396 batting average during the 2011 regular season. A football quarterback turned star catcher, Smith led the conference in runs scored (56) while adding eight home runs and 52 RBI in the regular season. He also posted a .979 fielding percentage and ranks 21st among NCAA leaders in slugging percentage (.675) and 22nd in overall batting average (.397).
“Kevan may have been one of the most talented players in the draft,” head coach Joe Jordano said. “For a senior to be drafted in the 7th round, it proves his value and his skill set. We all very much look forward to watching his professional career. He was an integral part of our team and I am very happy he decided to play baseball a few years ago. He has worked very hard and I believe his best years are ahead of him.”
Also his teammate Ray Black was selected 6 spots later. Black is only a redhsirt sophomore, so he is likely to come back for at least another season in hopes of increasing his draft stock.
On the downside of the MLB draft, Pitt may not be getting a talented local pitcher.
Peters Township outfielder Justin Bianco always intended to play baseball at Pitt, just like his dad and three of his uncles.
But that changed Tuesday in the time it took his computer to refresh.
Bianco, watching the MLB First-Year Player Draft online, saw his name — Round 3, Pick 93, Arizona Diamondbacks.
“I wasn’t expected to go that high,” he said. “I was really surprised. I’d heard (I would be picked) in the top 10 rounds.”
The unexpectedly high pick has prompted the 6-foot, 195-pound left-handed hitting Pitt signee to re-think his future.
“It’s my dream to become a major leaguer,” he said. “I will have to consider really hard and think about it.”
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Based on MLB’s slotting system, Bianco is looking at a signing bonus of roughly $350,000 as a third-round pick.
“I think he’s definitely going to sign,” his father, Matt, said.
In other news, Pitt’s game at Iowa is set for Noon on ESPN or ESPN2. Honestly, the hope was that it would be a 3:30 start. One of my best friends gets married at 11 am. Despite a Catholic ceremony, he is swearing that we should still be able to catch kickoff. Guess we’ll see.
Here’s a short piece on Hugh Green looking back on his recruitment to Pitt.
“(Pitt) was trying to replace a little running back named Tony Dorsett,” Green, 51, said. The back who Pitt was recruiting at the time was Rooster Jones. “We played (Jones’ team) twice that year (in 1976).”
Green was noticed by the Pitt brass and became a Panther teammate of Jones. While Jones fell way shy of matching the feats of Dorsett, Green’s achievements as a defensive end at Pitt neighbored those of the Hopewell High School great. Green was a second-team All-American as a freshman in 1977 and was first-team All-American his final three years. He finished second in the voting for the Heisman Trophy in his senior season in 1980.
More love for QB Coach Todd Dodge.
The two have known each other since 1994, when they were both high school coaches in Texas. Graham recruited Dodge’s son, Riley, to play at Tulsa. So when Graham pitched the idea to become quarterbacks coach at Pittsburgh, Dodge jumped at the chance even though it would require leaving the place he had always known. With that, Dodge became the first quarterbacks coach since 1992 to only hold that title at Pittsburgh.
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But Dodge has no regrets over his decision to leave Southlake Carroll, where he was a rock star in the state. He coached Chase Daniel and Greg McElroy, among others, and led his team to four championships in his final five seasons.
“Was I ready? Shoot, I don’t know,” Dodge said. “I don’t know if you’re ever ready. As far as where our players came from academically, how far they came character wise, it was night and day from the time I got there to the time I left. I’m very proud of that. I helped get a stadium built there. I left the North Texas program in a lot better shape in a lot of ways. The bottom line is we didn’t win enough games.
“I understand that, but I have no regrets at all on that. It would be easy to say I was on a roll at Southlake Carroll, going 79-1, fixing to go for a fourth straight high school championship. Then you take a job and a lot of people say you fell on your face, but I don’t look at it like that. You make decisions in your life and you go on. Right now, I’m absolutely so happy to be here at Pitt, to be on this staff and to be in this city.”
And he sees plenty of potential with his new quarterback, Tino Sunseri. Dodge ran the no-huddle at North Texas, so he seems to be in a good spot to help Sunseri make the transition.
I’ve been most excited at the hiring of Dodge of all the position coaches. His impact on the QB position strikes me as at least as big as the impact on running backs when Dave Walker was hired by Wannstedt to be Pitt’s running back coach.
Finally, in what I hope is the only thing related to WVU’s present situation I post today, at least one Hoopie fan has a sense of humor about the situation.
Wanny is still here obviously, and after landing a Top 20 recruiting class in 2010-2011, he is now in a position to ABSOLUTELY clean up in 2011-2012 for a Top 10 or better recruiting class. In light of what’s going on at WVU & Ohio State THAT PART IS NOT HARD TO IMAGINE AT ALL.
WHAT IF…..
Chas, if you’re in the wedding, I suggest that you get the groom to get the bridal party photos done pre-ceremony
I am implying, however, that if you were officiating the ceremony beginning at 11 am, you would provide ample time for the participants and attendees to get to a TV for a noon Pitt game kickoff. (whatever happens afterwards with the photographer is not your concern)
Well, at least it’s on tv.
Keep ’em coming!
And don’t kid yourself Chaz, no way you are making kick-off for a noon game with an 11am Catholic wedding. With Pitt’s new offense we should be up 28-7 at the end of the 1st quarter and you can join the action then.
An Isaly’s chipped ham sandwich and a Klondike bar trumped anything on Forbes and at half the price.
2.5 hours… granted, the place was packed and the priest had to feed everyone a snack halfway through.
Presby funerals? In and out and on to the booze.
Let’s hope our guys are using the off-season to improve skill strenghth and conditioning.
Yes, all is serene with Pitt sports at the moment … that is, until the next Todd Graham press conference
American Poet and abolitionist John Greenleaf Whittier (1807-1892) wrote, “For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: ‘It might have been!'”
What would have been if Pitt got to play Georgia in in the Sugar Bowl after the 80 season?
What would have been if Coach Evans actualy did give the instructions to foul against Vandy in 88 NCAA?
What would have been if soemone would have actually defended Scottie Reynolds in 09 NCAA Elite 8?
What would have been if the snap isn’t fumbled in final season game in 09?
What would have been if Graham doesn’t fumble the KO return vs UConn this past year?
What would have been if Gilbert’s 2nd free throw doesn’t roll off the rim in last second vs Butler back in March?
Pitt should have 4 Heisman winners now (at least)
1. Tony Dorsett (who did rightfully win it in 1976)
2. Tony Dorsett (who should have won it his Sophomore or Junior year instead of the overrated,
terrible bum of a pro, Archie Griffin who instead won it twice, more politics eh)
3. Hugh Green (who finished 2nd to George Rodgers of S. Carolina, who Pitt just happened to play that year in the Gator Bowl and absolutely destroy them and Rodgers 37-9 before a record crowd of almost 73,000.) That’s right Pitt use to travel pretty well to bowl games.
4. Larry Fitzgerald (who in one of the biggest Heisman shams, lost out to some overrated joke of a QB from Oklahoma who wasn’t even drafted by the NFL. Who’s name is so insignificant I’ can’t even remember it)
Can you imagine how much easier it would be to recruit players to Pitt, if we had 4 Heisman winners since 1975, not one.
The after game AP article of the 1980 Gator Bowl, which led to Pitt being ranked #1 by both wire services and the NY Times…….until….you can read the rest !
It wasn’t too bad for a rather laid back Presbyterian that I am, but what made me laugh so hard that I almost busted my vest was my friend who being Catholic uttered these semi-sober words at the reception,
“I love this wedding…it’s a Catholic wedding without the guilt.”
DaveD
Grier always said they made a real bogus call against him which setup Georgia Tech’s only touchdown and winning touchdown of the game.
After reading the beginning note to this article, I think you’ll probably figure things out.
Also check out the photo of the 2 fans of the two schools, the guy with the Pitt pennant and the girl with a Confederate Flag. Quite a startling image.
Hugh Green definitely should have won the trophy but being a defensive player was too much to overcome. Since only one winner could possibly be called a defensive players, Woodson in ’97, I understand it more now. He also played WR so they hedged when they gave it to him. They really should re-rack exactly what the Heisman is and be truthful about it. It is an award given to the ‘best’ offensive skill player.
I agree about Fitzgerald also and it’s a shame that our local beat writers contributed to that.
My dad taught Bobby Grier in a couple of classes at PITT and I remember him (Dad) talking about what Grier had to go through both on the football field and also off of it at PITT itself. In the mid ’50s there was still a lot of resentment when Blacks did well at something whites were doing also.
It is great the Grier still supports PITT and Pittsburgh. BTW, here is an interest fact I just read on Wikipedia about that bad call:
“The irony of the bad call is that the call was made by a referree Rusty Coles, from the Pittsburgh area, who had no objective in making the wrong call, but simply made a mistake, which he admitted after seeing the game films.”
Also, that Catholic funeral was very interesting and of course I know it was Communion. One thing though, Catholic churches have everyone beat for interior beauty – there is something to look at all over the Sanctuary.
Heinz Chapel and the chapel at the Naval Academy (which contains John Paul Jones crypt) may be viewed upon more favorably in their simplicity .. but I am no means an expert on churches.
Rev. George, you got me to wax philosophical.
Rev & Big Guy: Let’s not forget that one of the reasons churches in the Middle Ages were built so lavishly and decorated so colorfully was that they were meant to be literally “awe inspiring”. The peasants had no real colorful things in their lives – no artwork, beautiful clothes, jewelry, etc – everything was muted and dirty earth tones. so the Church gave a shot of the fantastic and beautiful to them via the trappings of religion.
In a real sense it is like us today going to see an art museum or a technicolor movie. Going to church did that for them.
Plus it was a great way to draw people in and get more $$$ out of them. If interested watch the mini-series “Pillars of the Earth” for some detail on the intricate work and politics of church building back then.
I am fascinated by the financing of the construction. Generally, the cathedrals were constructed over decades, often 100+ years. The strategy (as I understand it) was the Vatican didn’t “tax” the church until it was totally complete; therefore, there was no incentive to fully complete construction.
Just like today, all funds by the government and church are derived form the labor of the populace. The peasants had a monumental task trying to obtain food and shelter. Yet, thru their labor, they paid for the hundreds of artists and construction workers along with the king’s castles, the king’s extravagant life style, and the king’s armies and associated wars. (The more things change, the more things remain the same.)