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June 8, 2011

Pure speculation, but Terrelle Pryor would not have put Pitt, Michigan or Penn State in the position Ohio State finds itself in. Not because our or any of those schools somehow would have restrained his actions. But because I sincerely doubt he would have been able to go as far with such a blind eye turned by the Ohio State, administration and coaches, and let it come to this.

The comparison to what happened with Oklahoma and Brett Romar makes the most sense. Romar was one of a bunch of Oklahoma players found to be getting paid by an auto dealership/booster for basically showing up and not much else. It came out, and Bob Stoops flat out kicked him off the team for good. The Oklahoma program was not put at risk because of one talented and presumed starting QB.

Instead Pryor could put Ohio State in a hole that may take several years for them to recover on the field. Reputation-wise, even longer. The only solace for Ohio State fans, is they can wear their Scarlet-Gray glasses and blame everything on Pryor. Not at all the Ohio State football culture that Tressel helped foster. Not at all. It’s all Pryor’s fault. His greed. His reckless disregard. No other reason. Nope. Moving on.

Now, for some speculative fun. Aaron Torres does some alternative history theorizing about the 13-9 game. What if the Hoopies had won? DickRod couldn’t have left for Michigan with WVU playing Ohio State in the BCS Championship. Maybe Michigan makes a stronger offer for Les Miles. Maybe Pryor goes to WVU instead. Maybe if Ohio State beat WVU, Tressel is more secure in his legacy with 2 BCS Championships and doesn’t let Ohio State players and boosters go nuts. Maybe Mallet doesn’t transfer to Arkansas and Petrino doesn’t go to the Sugar Bowl last year…

Unaddressed in that is the Pitt side of things. Wannstedt got his extension before the game, but it’s safe to say the pressure on him would have been that much higher without the 13-9 game. And if WVU was still rolling with DickRod in charge, how much more pressure would have been on Wannstedt? Yes, it’s June and there’s little real news for Pitt, why do you ask?

Actually, here’s another what if from 2007. What if Bill Stull hadn’t been hurt in the opening game? Forget the issue of Pat Bostick’s career arc at Pitt, what about Kevan Smith? He was the redshirt freshman forced into action at first. That worked out horribly for him. No accuracy, and his athleticism was not much of a factor in the Cavanaugh offense. But what if he hadn’t gotten any real action and learned that he had no real future in Pitt football that year? Would he have still gone to baseball full-time after the 2008 season?

On that note, congratulations to Kevan Smith on being drafted in the 7th round by the Chicago White Sox.

Smith, an All-BIG EAST first-team selection in 2010 and 2011 tied all league hitters with a .396 batting average during the 2011 regular season. A football quarterback turned star catcher, Smith led the conference in runs scored (56) while adding eight home runs and 52 RBI in the regular season. He also posted a .979 fielding percentage and ranks 21st among NCAA leaders in slugging percentage (.675) and 22nd in overall batting average (.397).

“Kevan may have been one of the most talented players in the draft,” head coach Joe Jordano said. “For a senior to be drafted in the 7th round, it proves his value and his skill set. We all very much look forward to watching his professional career. He was an integral part of our team and I am very happy he decided to play baseball a few years ago. He has worked very hard and I believe his best years are ahead of him.”

Also his teammate Ray Black was selected 6 spots later. Black is only a redhsirt sophomore, so he is likely to come back for at least another season in hopes of increasing his draft stock.

On the downside of the MLB draft, Pitt may not be getting a talented local pitcher.

Peters Township outfielder Justin Bianco always intended to play baseball at Pitt, just like his dad and three of his uncles.

But that changed Tuesday in the time it took his computer to refresh.

Bianco, watching the MLB First-Year Player Draft online, saw his name — Round 3, Pick 93, Arizona Diamondbacks.

“I wasn’t expected to go that high,” he said. “I was really surprised. I’d heard (I would be picked) in the top 10 rounds.”

The unexpectedly high pick has prompted the 6-foot, 195-pound left-handed hitting Pitt signee to re-think his future.

“It’s my dream to become a major leaguer,” he said. “I will have to consider really hard and think about it.”

Based on MLB’s slotting system, Bianco is looking at a signing bonus of roughly $350,000 as a third-round pick.

“I think he’s definitely going to sign,” his father, Matt, said.

In other news, Pitt’s game at Iowa is set for Noon on ESPN or ESPN2. Honestly, the hope was that it would be a 3:30 start. One of my best friends gets married at 11 am. Despite a Catholic ceremony, he is swearing that we should still be able to catch kickoff. Guess we’ll see.

Here’s a short piece on Hugh Green looking back on his recruitment to Pitt.

“(Pitt) was trying to replace a little running back named Tony Dorsett,” Green, 51, said. The back who Pitt was recruiting at the time was Rooster Jones. “We played (Jones’ team) twice that year (in 1976).”

Green was noticed by the Pitt brass and became a Panther teammate of Jones. While Jones fell way shy of matching the feats of Dorsett, Green’s achievements as a defensive end at Pitt neighbored those of the Hopewell High School great. Green was a second-team All-American as a freshman in 1977 and was first-team All-American his final three years. He finished second in the voting for the Heisman Trophy in his senior season in 1980.

More love for QB Coach Todd Dodge.

The two have known each other since 1994, when they were both high school coaches in Texas. Graham recruited Dodge’s son, Riley, to play at Tulsa. So when Graham pitched the idea to become quarterbacks coach at Pittsburgh, Dodge jumped at the chance even though it would require leaving the place he had always known. With that, Dodge became the first quarterbacks coach since 1992 to only hold that title at Pittsburgh.

But Dodge has no regrets over his decision to leave Southlake Carroll, where he was a rock star in the state. He coached Chase Daniel and Greg McElroy, among others, and led his team to four championships in his final five seasons.

“Was I ready? Shoot, I don’t know,” Dodge said. “I don’t know if you’re ever ready. As far as where our players came from academically, how far they came character wise, it was night and day from the time I got there to the time I left. I’m very proud of that. I helped get a stadium built there. I left the North Texas program in a lot better shape in a lot of ways. The bottom line is we didn’t win enough games.

“I understand that, but I have no regrets at all on that. It would be easy to say I was on a roll at Southlake Carroll, going 79-1, fixing to go for a fourth straight high school championship. Then you take a job and a lot of people say you fell on your face, but I don’t look at it like that. You make decisions in your life and you go on. Right now, I’m absolutely so happy to be here at Pitt, to be on this staff and to be in this city.”

And he sees plenty of potential with his new quarterback, Tino Sunseri. Dodge ran the no-huddle at North Texas, so he seems to be in a good spot to help Sunseri make the transition.

I’ve been most excited at the hiring of Dodge of all the position coaches. His impact on the QB position strikes me as at least as big as the impact on running backs when Dave Walker was hired by Wannstedt to be Pitt’s running back coach.

Finally, in what I hope is the only thing related to WVU’s present situation I post today, at least one Hoopie fan has a sense of humor about the situation.





Chas, you will catch the kick-off after the wedding…the second half kick-off!

Comment by HbgFrank 06.08.11 @ 12:55 pm

Here’s a what if….. What if Oderick Turner manages to actually catch a perfectly thrown ball by Kevan Smith in the Michigan State game for a long TD(which he should have) and Pitt goes on to win. And Smith goes on to have big numbers and leads Pitt to two BCS games and we actually win one.

Wanny is still here obviously, and after landing a Top 20 recruiting class in 2010-2011, he is now in a position to ABSOLUTELY clean up in 2011-2012 for a Top 10 or better recruiting class. In light of what’s going on at WVU & Ohio State THAT PART IS NOT HARD TO IMAGINE AT ALL.

WHAT IF…..

Comment by melvinbennett 06.08.11 @ 2:01 pm

a Catholic ceremony is bad enough but the freakin’ photos afterwards take even more time.

Chas, if you’re in the wedding, I suggest that you get the groom to get the bridal party photos done pre-ceremony

Comment by wbb 06.08.11 @ 2:26 pm

another suggestion … Reverend George will ensure the ceremony is completed in 40 minutes

Comment by wbb 06.08.11 @ 2:28 pm

wbb, surely, you jest, sir. Not so incidentally,the wedding photographers will take over in their quest for a buck—if the pastor does not monitor their ambition. The church does NOT profit from their talents. Rev. George in Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.08.11 @ 2:45 pm

Rev George, I am by no means implying that there is an alliance between the church and the photographer.

I am implying, however, that if you were officiating the ceremony beginning at 11 am, you would provide ample time for the participants and attendees to get to a TV for a noon Pitt game kickoff. (whatever happens afterwards with the photographer is not your concern)

Comment by wbb 06.08.11 @ 2:53 pm

I also understand that Rev. George will give you a guarantee. If you are dissatisfied with your bride at any time during the first five years of marriage, you get your money back (provided that the bride’s old man didn’t pay for the ceremony). After that, you’re on your own.

Comment by BigGuy 06.08.11 @ 2:58 pm

Not football related but just saw this from the Post Gazette. Pitt vs. PSU basketball series in the future? Pitt should definitely ask for a 2 for 1 or a 2 year home and home. I mean, after all, we can fill our basketball arena

link to post-gazette.com

Comment by Greg 06.08.11 @ 3:27 pm

Another 9am start on the west coast *sigh*

Well, at least it’s on tv.

Comment by Cool Hand Nuke 06.08.11 @ 3:38 pm

Just a small note it was Rhett Bomar not Brett Romar

Comment by Twink 06.08.11 @ 3:45 pm

First in the ledger:

link to pittsburgh.rivals.com

Keep ’em coming!

Comment by steve 06.08.11 @ 7:23 pm

baby steps

Comment by wbb 06.08.11 @ 8:00 pm

I think Pryor would have gotten a shitload of free chipped ham down at Isley’s in exchange for signed Pitt memorabilia.

And don’t kid yourself Chaz, no way you are making kick-off for a noon game with an 11am Catholic wedding. With Pitt’s new offense we should be up 28-7 at the end of the 1st quarter and you can join the action then.

Comment by Roman 06.08.11 @ 8:04 pm

Well played Roman. That chipped ham bit was great, and I hope your score prediction for the Iowa game is as spot on.

Comment by Greg in New Orleans 06.08.11 @ 9:18 pm

Roman, I lived on Dawson for a semester. My Vespa dragged me into Isaly’s on its own.

An Isaly’s chipped ham sandwich and a Klondike bar trumped anything on Forbes and at half the price.

Comment by steve 06.08.11 @ 9:19 pm

Greg, I like your thinking regarding the possibility of playing PSU in hoops. Heck, why play at Happy Valley at all- keep it right here in da ‘burgh!

Comment by Annie 06.09.11 @ 1:09 am

The point about the Catholic wedding may be true. I’m a Presbyterian and attended a Catholic funeral last week. After the first hour I turned to the guy next to me and asked “I guess we’ll be wrapping up soon”… and he laughed and said “Buddy, this thing is just getting started”

2.5 hours… granted, the place was packed and the priest had to feed everyone a snack halfway through.

Presby funerals? In and out and on to the booze.

Comment by Reed 06.09.11 @ 6:02 am

FWIW, I attended a Catholic wedding in Italy a few years back, and the couple decided to do an American wedding upon their return to the states. The Italian version lasted ‘only’ an hour (don’t believe there were snacks, er, communion) … luckily I stood in the back of the (crowded) church for the American version because I left for the reception location up the block after about an hour and a half … believe it lasted over 2 hrs.

Comment by wbb 06.09.11 @ 7:13 am

Great to see someone else on the front page. Hope Graham is taking advantage of others misfortunes. Those that were wary of Holgerson were on the mark. How about some 4 or 5 star linebackers?

Let’s hope our guys are using the off-season to improve skill strenghth and conditioning.

Comment by gc 06.09.11 @ 7:21 am

Gentlemen, may I remind you that the bride MAY have a say in what transpires AFTER the wedding!! Incidentally, I too am Presbyterian and before retirement TRIED to have the ceremonies on Wed. mornings or Mon. afternoons. Ha! Just joking. These days, the bridal couple have much IMPUT in the ceremoney procedings—as they should. “And now, back toPitt sports. Oh, all is silent in the lair of the Panther. That’s a relief. Other schools are making scandal headlines and keeping the sports pundits content” Rev. George from Columbus where all is strangely serene for the moment.

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.09.11 @ 7:38 am

Rev George, Hallelujah to that!

Yes, all is serene with Pitt sports at the moment … that is, until the next Todd Graham press conference

Comment by wbb 06.09.11 @ 11:31 am

wbb and constituents: We would get bored with extended serenity. Graham might shake up the boys(and EVEN) the fans are occasion. And, that’s fine with me. If only his coaching is as good as his marketing, eh? Well, we shall wait and see. rEV. gEORGE IN COLUMBUS where maurice Clarett, the noted sociologist, is waxing eloquently today.

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.09.11 @ 12:41 pm

Rev. George, thanks for mentioning the article on Maurice Clarett. He comes across as having matured. Hopefully he will obtain an education or obtain some skills that will enable him to gain employment post football.

American Poet and abolitionist John Greenleaf Whittier (1807-1892) wrote, “For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: ‘It might have been!'”

link to rivals.yahoo.com

Comment by BigGuy 06.09.11 @ 2:09 pm

What would have been if Cavanaugh doesn’t get hurt in the 77 home opener vs ND?
What would have been if Pitt got to play Georgia in in the Sugar Bowl after the 80 season?
What would have been if Coach Evans actualy did give the instructions to foul against Vandy in 88 NCAA?
What would have been if soemone would have actually defended Scottie Reynolds in 09 NCAA Elite 8?
What would have been if the snap isn’t fumbled in final season game in 09?
What would have been if Graham doesn’t fumble the KO return vs UConn this past year?
What would have been if Gilbert’s 2nd free throw doesn’t roll off the rim in last second vs Butler back in March?

Comment by wbb 06.09.11 @ 3:14 pm

For me Hugh Green will always be my favorite Panther. He played on defense and smashed players so hard I thought they would just blow apart. I was heartbroken when he didn’t win the heismen.

Comment by Tackle made by Hugh 06.09.11 @ 5:42 pm

Right on target….Tackle made by Hugh…

Pitt should have 4 Heisman winners now (at least)

1. Tony Dorsett (who did rightfully win it in 1976)

2. Tony Dorsett (who should have won it his Sophomore or Junior year instead of the overrated,
terrible bum of a pro, Archie Griffin who instead won it twice, more politics eh)

3. Hugh Green (who finished 2nd to George Rodgers of S. Carolina, who Pitt just happened to play that year in the Gator Bowl and absolutely destroy them and Rodgers 37-9 before a record crowd of almost 73,000.) That’s right Pitt use to travel pretty well to bowl games.

4. Larry Fitzgerald (who in one of the biggest Heisman shams, lost out to some overrated joke of a QB from Oklahoma who wasn’t even drafted by the NFL. Who’s name is so insignificant I’ can’t even remember it)

Can you imagine how much easier it would be to recruit players to Pitt, if we had 4 Heisman winners since 1975, not one.

Comment by melvinbennett 06.09.11 @ 6:15 pm

BTW, I love Catholic weddings. Regardless of how long the ceremonies are, the receptions are always great.

Comment by melvinbennett 06.09.11 @ 6:20 pm

Here’s a link, some you young guys might get a real kick out of:

The after game AP article of the 1980 Gator Bowl, which led to Pitt being ranked #1 by both wire services and the NY Times…….until….you can read the rest !

link to mmbolding.com

Comment by melvinbennett 06.09.11 @ 6:27 pm

so my wife is Catholic and I am presbyterian. So per her father’s last wishes when she was young we were married in a Catholic church.

It wasn’t too bad for a rather laid back Presbyterian that I am, but what made me laugh so hard that I almost busted my vest was my friend who being Catholic uttered these semi-sober words at the reception,

“I love this wedding…it’s a Catholic wedding without the guilt.”

DaveD

Comment by DaveD 06.09.11 @ 10:23 pm

The other week someone mentioned Bobby Grier and of course he broke the color barrier at the 1956 Sugar Bowl. Here’s some other info on that game I think most Pitt people will find quite interesting.

Grier always said they made a real bogus call against him which setup Georgia Tech’s only touchdown and winning touchdown of the game.
After reading the beginning note to this article, I think you’ll probably figure things out.

link to mmbolding.com

Comment by melvinbennett 06.09.11 @ 10:49 pm

Great pics I’ve never seen on that Sugar Bowl of 1956 link. Including the debated play, and you clearly see Bobby Grier laying on the ground and GT player well behind him catching the TD.

Also check out the photo of the 2 fans of the two schools, the guy with the Pitt pennant and the girl with a Confederate Flag. Quite a startling image.

link to mmbolding.com

Comment by melvinbennett 06.09.11 @ 10:59 pm

Melvin – Dorsett’s SO year was nothing to write home about – he barely broke 1000 yards (1004 I believe). I think his JR year could be mentioned but Griffin really was that good in college.

Hugh Green definitely should have won the trophy but being a defensive player was too much to overcome. Since only one winner could possibly be called a defensive players, Woodson in ’97, I understand it more now. He also played WR so they hedged when they gave it to him. They really should re-rack exactly what the Heisman is and be truthful about it. It is an award given to the ‘best’ offensive skill player.

I agree about Fitzgerald also and it’s a shame that our local beat writers contributed to that.

My dad taught Bobby Grier in a couple of classes at PITT and I remember him (Dad) talking about what Grier had to go through both on the football field and also off of it at PITT itself. In the mid ’50s there was still a lot of resentment when Blacks did well at something whites were doing also.

It is great the Grier still supports PITT and Pittsburgh. BTW, here is an interest fact I just read on Wikipedia about that bad call:

“The irony of the bad call is that the call was made by a referree Rusty Coles, from the Pittsburgh area, who had no objective in making the wrong call, but simply made a mistake, which he admitted after seeing the game films.”

Also, that Catholic funeral was very interesting and of course I know it was Communion. One thing though, Catholic churches have everyone beat for interior beauty – there is something to look at all over the Sanctuary.

Comment by Reed 06.10.11 @ 6:46 am

St Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican is probably worth billions … no exageration. If anything, it is too much beauty.

Heinz Chapel and the chapel at the Naval Academy (which contains John Paul Jones crypt) may be viewed upon more favorably in their simplicity .. but I am no means an expert on churches.

Comment by wbb 06.10.11 @ 7:42 am

From a biased, clerical standpoint may I suggest that the church should be the people and not the building. Just thought I’d slip tha in although it would be a reach to claim weddings and churches are relevant to Pitt football. Rev. George from Columbus where the spring rain is cleansing THE INSTITUTION of higher learning of its sin. Oops! There I go again.

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.10.11 @ 11:10 am

I have visited scores of Roman Catholic and Protestant churches and cathedrals throughout Europe that are hundreds of years old. Probably like most people, I am astounded at the artistry, the architecture, the craftsmanship, and the workers’ ability to construct those structures without modern engineering, computers, and mechanized equipment and tools. And probably like most people, I wonder what Jesus’ comments would be on the monuments that were (and are) constructed to His memory and honor (and to the kings and church’s hierarchy who ordered the construction as monuments to themselves).

Rev. George, you got me to wax philosophical.

Comment by BigGuy 06.10.11 @ 12:48 pm

Big Guy, You “wax philosophical” very well. You shpuld try it more often. May I suggest comparing the Moun taineer drama now unfolding, to Hamlet? The Ohio State tragedy reminds me of “War and Peace”. Rev. George from Columbus where the Buckeye faithful are concerned that Pryor will sign for more than he was getting as a “student-athlete”.

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.10.11 @ 5:22 pm

Bill Stewart soliloquy: To be or not to be a lame duck coach, that is the darn question! Whether ’tis nobler to be a figure head to some young whippersnapper and suffer the slings and arrows of a post game press conferences that you had little say in or just to end it all and no longer be an ‘eer’ … aw shucks, screw it!

Comment by wbb 06.10.11 @ 7:46 pm

Wbb – you should have made that a “Guess the Author” piece.

Rev & Big Guy: Let’s not forget that one of the reasons churches in the Middle Ages were built so lavishly and decorated so colorfully was that they were meant to be literally “awe inspiring”. The peasants had no real colorful things in their lives – no artwork, beautiful clothes, jewelry, etc – everything was muted and dirty earth tones. so the Church gave a shot of the fantastic and beautiful to them via the trappings of religion.

In a real sense it is like us today going to see an art museum or a technicolor movie. Going to church did that for them.

Plus it was a great way to draw people in and get more $$$ out of them. If interested watch the mini-series “Pillars of the Earth” for some detail on the intricate work and politics of church building back then.

Comment by Reed 06.11.11 @ 6:38 am

Reed, thanks for the information. I am interested in medieval history (but not nearly as knowledgeable as I should be). I will try to watch “Pillars of the Earth”. I trust that it is an accurate presentation and not Hollywood’s vision of the times.

I am fascinated by the financing of the construction. Generally, the cathedrals were constructed over decades, often 100+ years. The strategy (as I understand it) was the Vatican didn’t “tax” the church until it was totally complete; therefore, there was no incentive to fully complete construction.

Just like today, all funds by the government and church are derived form the labor of the populace. The peasants had a monumental task trying to obtain food and shelter. Yet, thru their labor, they paid for the hundreds of artists and construction workers along with the king’s castles, the king’s extravagant life style, and the king’s armies and associated wars. (The more things change, the more things remain the same.)

Comment by BigGuy 06.11.11 @ 11:13 am

Not sure if anyone else pointed it out but I’m pretty sure it’s Rhett Bomar.. Nor Brett Romar

Comment by jmm0205 06.14.11 @ 6:14 pm

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