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April 19, 2011

SPRING PRACTICE – Where We Stand 1

Filed under: Uncategorized — Reed @ 5:48 pm

So, spring practice is over; we have seen three scrimmages including the Spring Game and have discussed the team and the program in-depth.  Now is the time for reflection and looking ahead to the more important summer training camp and the arrival of the 2011 recruits.

What have we learned so far and how do we feel about it… let’s see.  This was a big article so I’m splitting it up into two parts:

How well has Graham taken control of the program both on and off the field?

As far as off the field goes we have seen a few players decide to leave early.  In almost every case that was the natural course of things based on Lewis and Baldwin’s plans, it was pretty evident they weren’t going to stick around even with Wannstedt.  Hynoski’s decision was another matter and understandable given this new offense.  We had two other players expelled from the team in Diaz and Cruz after disciplinary issues (we think, no one really knows what happened in Cruz’s case except that he’s gone).

The Head Coach and his staff seem to have successfully coerced the players into accepting his philosophies.  The kids seem engaged and ready to play High Octane Offense, Nitro Defense and Alaskan Crude Oil Special Teams.  There was a lot of energy in that Spring Game and it was very impressive how all the kids battled to the end of the fast paced 135 minute scrimmage.

It’s hard to tell at this point whether that will translate into a big winning season but signs look good that we’ll continue to progress with the new systems..

Do we have the talent to successfully run Graham’s Offensive system?

We do.  It may not be the exact talent Graham envisions when he has his offense and defense exactly the way he wants them to be; he’ll recruit for that, but he has the playmakers on offense to execute the High Octane offense he’s been selling.  For a good review of why Graham has (apparently) picked Sunseri as the starting QB, please re-read this article by Pat Bostick.

In it he details the differences between Wannstedt’s I-Formation and what we’ll be seeing in 2011.  One salient point to know is that a staple of this new offense is the “read-option” play where the QB makes a split second decision to hand the ball off to the RB; keep it himself and run or keep it himself and pass… the QB keeping and running the ball is a main component of that, as is the pass option.  Sunseri fits that role the best out of our three QBs.

At our skill positions we have Ray Graham who just may have a monster year in this offense; not only will he get a lot of carries we’ll see 5-10 passes a game to him out in space where he can do real damage.  We are thin behind him but Des Brown is fast and quick and has impressed… but we need some freshman to give us depth there. I’d like to see Graham develop a short yardage back from one of the new kids, perhaps Isaac Bennett can fill that bill.

WR seems set with three pretty well proven kids in Shanahan, Street and Saddler with some talent behind them – we’ll be fine there.  TE is a wildcard because we have no real inkling of how they will be incorporated yet, but Hubie Graham has done well in the spring as has DeCicco.  I was really impressed with Brendan Carozzoni the times I watched him play and am hoping he gets a valid shot at playing time.  He’s tough and fast.  IMO this kid is too good not to make sure he stays in the program.

OL is a work in progress but Jacobson has begun to settle in at center and may turn out to be a good one there.  Nix and Gibbs are returning starters and the other two positions are in flux.

Do we have the talent to successfully run Graham’s Defensive system?

On defense we have some great Defensive Lineman returning; the best of which may be Lindsey at the new Panther position.  As a hybrid of a stand-up DE and drop back LB he’ll have the green light to roam the field and the talent, IMO, to be a game changer.  He may do well enough that teams have to plan in advance to avoid him.  Between Caragein, Alecxih, Donald, KK Smith and Ezell we are in very good shape there.

LBs are a problem at this point but we have kids that were injured in the spring who will be ready to compete for a 1st team spot in the summer; Greg Williams and Todd Thomas among them.  But along with them we have Bryan Murphy, a monster LB who will be at that Panther position also.  I fully expect some shuffling to get this kid on the field more often than not, he’s that good.  We have other fast and talented kids at LB who we haven’t seen in the regular season yet – but we will.  If there is any unit that may see wholesale changes it is this one I think. I believe Mason will be a year out from playing full time again so I’m not counting him in the mix.

We certainly have talent with Hendricks, Holley and Tags at Safety; throw in Kolby Gray and all four are aggressive and can hit.  Ifill brings the speed we need at this position also.  No problems there I think.  DB may be a different story.  The staff is banking on Buddy Jackson to keep playing the way he did in the spring – which was well, but keep your fingers crossed.  Past him we have, IMO, average players where someone better step up big time.

The special teams will be good in the kicking game, perhaps even great.  Both Harper and Yoklic can boom the ball.  Harper has shown better consistency in this Spring; Yoklic needs to work at his.  Coverage teams are a work in progress at this point.

Tomorrow we’ll discuss what to look for over the offseason and in Summer Training Camp.

Odds and Ends:

Zeise of the P-G does his spring wrap up and states that, basically, spring practices don’t mean squat or to put it more accurately “not much really”.  His only real strong statement is negative:

The one thing that will need to happen is Pitt will need to find a legitimate big-play receiver as I am not sure there is one on this roster. Devin Street and Mike Shanahan are very good but neither are going to blow by defenders nor is Cam Saddler, who has found a spot as a slot receiver in this offense.

What he conveniently forgets is the you can have all the speed in the world at wide receiver but it means nothing if that ‘speed burner’;  1) can’t get off the LOS cleanly; 2) can’t run crisp routes and 3) won’t position himself to fight for the ball once it’s in the air.  If he wants a WR corps populated with Jon Baldwin types he can have them.  Personally, I think we’ll be more than fine with the kids we have on roster now.

Hell, I think we have more Big Play receivers on the two deep now than we have had in the last six years.  I’ll trade two or three 70+ yard TD plays a season for fifty 25+ yard plays any day.

DiPaola did an article on the Spring Game.  He takes a 180 degree stance on our offensive talent than his P-G counterpart:

Meanwhile, Sunseri looks to have at least four playmakers surrounding him, including former Norwin wide receiver Mike Shanahan (seven receptions, 158 yards and a 50-yard touchdown).

“Mike Shanahan sticks out to me as a leader and playmaker,” Graham said. “As he gets in mental and physical shape to run this offense, he is going to be special.”

Wide receivers Devin Street (eight, 81, one) and Cameron Saddler (six, 50) also played well, and running back Ray Graham was used sparingly (five carries, 15 yards) because he’s the only scholarship running back on campus.

DiPaola also quotes Graham about the team not having a reprise of last year’s off-season drama:

The players are faced with a lot of free time before summer camp. Some members of last year’s team couldn’t handle it responsibly, and the legal problems that ensued helped lead to Wannstedt’s firing.

Graham expects no such problems, especially after he had his players sign a document earlier this year reaffirming their commitment to the program. “I told them, all over the country between now and camp, you are going to see every day somebody getting in trouble,” he said.

Graham said it’s not enough to ask them to stay out of trouble. “Every day I see them, I am going to shake their hands, look them in the eye and tell them I’m committed, and I expect them to do the same thing. “We have given each other our word, so I have a great confidence that these guys are going to do the right things.”

PITT named the Ed Conway Award Winners for the most improved players over the Spring Practice.  They were Gonzalez on offense and Ezell and Jackson on defense.

The Pitt News had two quotes from Tino Sunseri that I didn’t see anywhere else and they kind of strike to the heart of the matter regarding this new offense:

Despite being seen as the front-runner for the quarterback position, Sunseri is working hard to become what Graham calls “a disciple of the coaches on the field.”

“Whenever I hear him say that, I take that as I need to be basically a coach on the field,” Sunseri said. “I need to understand the situation, what can hurt us, what can help us. I need to understand the total outlook of the game —where he’s thinking the ball needs to go, I need to make sure the ball actually goes. I want to make sure I know exactly where he thinks the ball should go because he’s usually right.”

This makes sense and I think that comes with time and practice.  But it most probably also be one of the things that is transparent to the average fan watching the game, meaning that you the reader will be clueless but me the writer will understand it 100%.

Sunseri also says:

“We came a really long way. If you go back to our first practice, guys were kind of lazy getting up to the ball. They didn’t understand the tempo of the offense or what was expected out of them every play,” Sunseri said. “We got better each and every practice, and we’re going to keep trying to get better this offseason.”

If you want to see what Todd Graham is all about watch this “Meet the Coach” video.  He’s not just acting in front of the camera here; this is how he coaches the players every practice.  Case in point – if you watched the Spring Game you’d have seen him out on the field standing about five yards behind and off to the side of the 1st string QB.  He also runs down the field with the KO teams.  It appears that he isn’t content with being a sideline coach and having his staff do everything, at least not at this point.





As far as playmakers go, we know that Graham can go the distance, and we have seen both Saddler and Street do the same on a very limited basis (remember the 1st play vs Syracuse when Street turned a screen pass into a 70 yd TD.) Shanahan is a playmaker but not neceaarily a gamebreaker. There appears to be good young WR talent but who knows? I am actually optiistic about the OL with Lumpy, Nix and Gibbs as a pretty darn good foundation.

I agree that the DB should be an improvement this year and the DL will remain a strong point. I’m not sure if we can get any worse LB play than last year.

Overall, I agree that there is certainly talent … it just remains to be seen how it all meshes together. One thing that may be a plus that the expectations this year won’t be as high as they were the last two.

Comment by wbb 04.19.11 @ 7:01 pm

Zagsblog not reporting Gibbs says he’ll stay in draft. Although his quote doesn’t really say that: link to zagsblog.com

As many people have given Gibbs a hard time on this I actually think it may not be a horrible decision for him. I usually hate when guys leave early, especially if they aren’t a shoe-in, but I believe NOW is Gibbs best shot to make it (or at least make some money). I believe he’s all set to graduate already. The main knock on him not being a pro is the lack of athleticism, not lack of skills. When kids stay they can make leaps in skills but making huge strides in athleticism just doesn’t happen. Staying another year will not make him much better of a prospect because he is not going to improve athletically. Numerous players have already opted to stay in college and they will be in the draft next year (along with a new crop). If there is a time to go its now. He’s coming of a good year (I don’t imagine he could have a much better one next year), the draft is down in talent (it was a weak one before everyone decided to stay), and he will have graduated. If he’s ready to move on then now is the best time for him to get a shot at the NBA, not next year. If he doesn’t make it then he takes his college degree and goes and plays overseas. This is not a bad decision.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 04.19.11 @ 11:21 pm

i meant Zagsblog now reporting

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 04.19.11 @ 11:21 pm

Wbb – I think we’ll see Shanahan used differently this season than last so we may still see some ‘explosive’ (25+ yards) plays out of him, as we did in this last scrimmage. They went deep with him in practice pretty often.

Game breaker? Maybe not, but he’ll be integral and especially valuable in crunch time.

Comment by Reed 04.20.11 @ 4:46 am

There is a difference in a 25+ yard completion and a 7 yard pass that results in a 25+ yard gain. I can see Shanahan in the former but not in the latter. He is a possession receiver with decent speed but I have seen him too many times getting tackled or falling as he is making the catch. YAC is not his specialty.

Comment by wbb 04.20.11 @ 7:06 am

Part II: But I agree he is valuable and wouldn’t be surprised at at all if he the leading receiver this year.

Comment by wbb 04.20.11 @ 7:08 am

I think one of the underrated things about Shanahan is that he will fight for the ball. If Sunseri throws it up 40 yards downfield I would bet that Shanhanan comes up with it better than 50% of the time. A lot better than the 10-20% Baldwin did(Rutgers game nonwithstanding). For this reason I think Shanahan will surprise with the number of long catches he makes.

Comment by Wannstache 04.20.11 @ 7:23 am

Regarding Shanahan, if I was the Pitt QB looking for a first down on a third and six situation, I would have a warm fuzzy with Shanahan out there on my flank. All you have to do is get the ball to him and he’ll bring it in. Moreover, he’s proven that he will take the hit going across the middle and won’t get separated from the ball. I agree that we are going to see Shanahan’s full potential explored this season with this wide open offense run by Graham. Should be fun.
BTW, for those out there who didn’t see the Blue-Gold game and want to, it’s now available on the official Pitt Panther athletic website. Enjoy your summer everybody be back in touch when fall camp starts. Hail to Pitt.

Comment by Dr. Tom 04.20.11 @ 8:25 am

Shanahan is the guy who makes the catch, he’s going to be that guy Tino is looking for on 3rd and long because he reliably catches the ball. Street/Saddler can make something out of nothing and will generate the big plays, but Shanahan will make the big catches.

Excited for this year, even if we don’t do well it’s going to be a heckuva ride!!

Comment by BnG 04.20.11 @ 8:32 am

Don’t be surprised if we see Shanahan going deep more often than before. They ran him in those plays in every practice and they were pretty successful.

He also can make YAC pretty darn well – just watch the 51 yard TD during the spring game. Granted he isn’t the speed burner that we may envision as a prototypical WR but he’ll make the plays, even some long ones, as long as Sunseri can get the ball deep to him.

Comment by Reed 04.20.11 @ 8:51 am

If I heard correctly, Coach Graham is going to spend an entire hour from 5 to 6 this afternoon wit Seibel, Starkey and Miller on the The Fan 93.7

Comment by wbb 04.20.11 @ 9:35 am

Shanahan make not break big ones but he will keep drives alive with his great hands.

Comment by Pittastic 04.20.11 @ 9:35 am

Shanahan is a heck of a lot faster than people think. He’s not going to be juking guys out of their shoes, but once he gets the ball in his hands he is almost like a tight end b/c he is so big, so he can run through arm tackles and rip off some pretty good yards after catch.

Gamebreaker? Probably not, but he is going to be involved in plenty of big plays this year.

Comment by TJ 04.20.11 @ 9:58 am

This is the most excited I’ve been about Pitt football in about 20 years. No, not getting pumped only to be disappointed this year, it’s going to take several years for Graham to get his guys, but, from what I’ve seen and heard, I’m pumped, and maybe we’ll even get suprised with a good first year too!! Kick it off allready!!!

Comment by Dan 04.20.11 @ 10:46 am

Ok, I could go for a few months of warm weather, September will be fine!!!

Comment by Dan 04.20.11 @ 10:46 am

With regard to players leaving early for the pros without degress, I find this article to be of interest:

link to sportsillustrated.cnn.com

Comment by BigGuy 04.20.11 @ 11:17 am

PS, in addition to leaving without degress, leaving without degrees is also of interest to me.

Comment by BigGuy 04.20.11 @ 11:30 am

I am not getting my hopes up for 2011, I will remain cautiously optimistic. Coach Graham certainly has the potential to re-energize this program but I think it may take at least 2 years to really see the possibilities.

This team has been through a lot in 3 months, a coaching carousel nightmare, a complete coaching staff change, completely new systems on both sides of the ball to learn, and losing their best playmakers to the nfl.

Every time I’ve shown any faith and hope in this program it ended by giving me a hard kick sqaure in the nuts so I will sit back and wait with no expectations for 2011.

Comment by Coach Ditka 04.20.11 @ 11:51 am

I THINK WE’LL BE JUST FINE AS FAR AS WR SPEED GOES – I ANTICIPATE AT LEAST 2 TRUE FRESHMAN WR & 2 TRUE FRESHMAN RB TO CONTRIBUTE & THE KICKING GAME WILL A HUGE FACTOR. IT FEELS AWESOME TO KNOW PITT FOOTBALL IS BACK WHERE IT BELONGS!

Comment by ROCKY20 04.20.11 @ 11:58 am

BigGuy what does that have to do with anything? The above explains that Gibbs is on course to graduate already…he will have his degree even if he doesn’t come back.

Comment by BCPITT 04.20.11 @ 12:02 pm

It appears that Gibbs is graduating … the following is an excerpt for PGs Ray Fittipaldo’s blog from yesterday:

There has been speculation that Gibbs is leaning toward staying in the draft because he is graduating and the talent level in this year’s draft is not as strong as most years. However, I did not get the sense in my conversation with Dixon that Gibbs is leaning one way or the other.

Comment by wbb 04.20.11 @ 12:19 pm

Dan, I will not be surprised by a good first year because I expect it. This is not a “rebuilding” job. We don’t play in the SEC. We have more talent on our roster than at least 5 of the teams in our conference.

Comment by HbgFrank 04.20.11 @ 12:48 pm

“what does that have to do with anything? The above explains that Gibbs is on course to graduate already”

No doubt the same can be said about Dion Lewis, Jon Baldwin and Henry Hynowski, can it not?

Comment by BigGuy 04.20.11 @ 1:55 pm

BigGuy, the answer to your question may be yes, although we really don’t know unless we see their grades. The difference is that it appears Gibbs is graduating this spring based on Fittipaldo’s blog

Comment by wbb 04.20.11 @ 2:02 pm

My understanding is that FB players and BB players go to school year round (3-trimesters per year). It is not unreasonable to expect a player to graduate in the spring of his junior year. If Gibbs has a reasonable chance of playing in the NBA, IMHO, he should go for it if he has his degree.

The NBA analysis should give him a true insight. If the NBA work-out is not encouraging, I think that he should return for his senior ala Carl Krauser. In addition to having a year of grad school paid for, he will continue to have the experience of playing big time college basketball. I don’t think that that experience can be overestimated. When he gets to be my age and looks back, I question whether he would want to trade that experience for a year’s worth of European money that he could now earn.

Comment by BigGuy 04.20.11 @ 2:44 pm

He also has the chance to go live in Europe for a few years and make good money. When you already have a college degree that’s a pretty enticing option even if you don’t make the NBA.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 04.20.11 @ 3:26 pm

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