Sorry about no WVU recap or preview of this game. Snow days with the kids, and doing extra parenting duties to cover for going to Senior day and the regular season finale next Saturday.
From what I understand, Louisville is a 1 point favorite at home. I’m only shocked it isn’t more. Louisville is unbeaten in Big East play at ther new joint. Even before Pitt beat the Hoopies on Thursday night, Luke Winn at SI.com had Pitt #1 in his power rankings and had a tremendous chart showing efficiency margins in home/road splits. There’s a reason Pitt is on top of the Big East. Of course, Louisville has one of the biggest boosts at home, so yeah. This is going to be Pitt’s toughest road game of the year.
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We can still win this game, however, the real Pitt Panthers have to show up.
Texas and Duke have both left the door wide open for Pitt to move up in the rankings. Jamie has to be pissed at the performance of the Panthers.
This is NOT the time of year to go in to a funk!
IMO, Louisville was very unimpressive. Anyone that calls Pitt a “dirty” team has obviously not watched Louisville play. I have never seen more uncalled handchecking, grabbing, etc.
Not too worried about the tourney right now – more worried about the offensive efficiency. If you take out the second half against WVU, it hasn’t been there for a while.
Overall, I think Pitt has two really good players (Gibbs and Brad), one good player (Gilbert) and a bunch of average guys (everyone else). What has been consistent with their losses in my opinion is that extra guy from the “average” group hasn’t stepped up to help the big three. Nasir played a horrible game today. Lamar came off of a great WVU game and did nothing. Gary was Gary – nothing really bad, nothing really that great.
For this team to go far in the tourney, I think it’s going to come down to those role players like Nas, Travon, and Lamar to play better and make contributions. If our bench doesn’t play well, I am worried about Pitt’s chances, especially considering the big three are rarely on all “on” at the same time. Bench scoring today was 21-6 in favor of Louisville.
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I usually harp on FTs, bad officiating, and bench play….but I keep coming back to 10 minutes with no FG. That is unacceptable.
as Pauly indicated, they went into a scoring drought .. but they have been doing tat for mush of the year but still have survived most of the time.
1) Gary McGhee = 1 FGA
2) Gilbert Brown = the only player to miss more than 1 FT
3) Nasir = 1-7, 5 TOs, 20 min (did he even play in the 2nd half?)
4) Wanamaker = 13, 12, 6, 3 and 2 (wow)
Obviously needed a few more buckets from Gibbs. Also needed a few more points from Woodall and at least a half dozen more looks inside to McGhee. Nasir can go 1-7 but he can’t turn the ball over 5 times.
We are going to see absolutely nothing but 2-3 zone in the first two rounds of the tourney.
I don’t care if Pitt loses the BE reg season or gets KO’d in game #1 of the BE tourney…the NCAA’s are the only measure that counts!
I’m pretty sure the call was to go for two and was executed almost to perfection, except for well, the whole making the wide open, uncontested layup part.
Don’t have a problem with Wanny looking to Brown with 10 seconds left. We make that and fould and we’re in a position to tie or win on another possession.
Defense is what really cost us the game today. Louisville got a ton of really good looks on 3’s this afternoon. Furthermore, we were slow to rotate and did a bad job hedging screens several times.
Considering how we played in the first half, this wasn’t a bad loss. Sure we had the chance to win, but I’m certain Dixon and the team will look at this as an opportunity to learn and get better. Need to close out the season with 2 wins and win the regular season title and we should still be in good shape for a #1 seed, especially since other teams keep losing too.
The(what should have been an easy 2 with 9 seconds left) was not the worst bit of strategy I’ve ever seen
I do agree with Z-boy. In both of Pitt;s recent loses, they gave up a lot of buckets from not properly exceuting the high hedge at the top of the circle. You can tell Pitino had some solutions for it.
Pitt make not again it past the Sweet 16 but not based on their 2 recent losses. A 1 pt loss to the hottest team in the country and an OT loss at Louisvlle should not offer doubt. Every top team has been losing on the road as of late except for Kansas who hasn’t really played any top team lately … they did lose at home to Texas by 11.
Need to really lay it on SFlorida and beat Nova to turn this ship around. Then hope that ball handling and foul shooting doesn’t fall apart.
Gil should always be looking to take the ball to the rim, and Wanny is our big assist guy most games. Ashton is our only big 3 point threat. This team is not the greatest shooting team, but they are pretty athletic at every position and have a decent bench. It’s too late now, but this team has played better when it’s an uptempo game. They did that earlier this season and had that per game average up to 78 ppg.(we even scored 79 against a decent ACC team,Maryland and 89 against Marquette). Whatever it is, they seem (or Coach is) afraid to play uptempo against the better BigEast teams. He wants to play halfcourt and in most games we’ll win, but this team, with this personal is more suited to win uptempo than any other Pitt team we’ve had.
This team really needs to get a lot more transition buckets and use Wanny’s, Brown’s and Woodall’s ability to beat their man off the dribble in transition. We know Big G can get up and down the court better than 98% of other centers and Nas can run the court as well. I don’t want to get beat in another slow down half court game like Notre Dame, SJU and today.
Another thing this team doesn’t shoot FT’s very well either, which means close games and teams that don’t shoot FT’s well usually lose those games.
Hopefully we are not going into our near annual fade. We truly need to win the BigEast, as we haven’t won it since like 2003-2004(regular season). We need to win these next two games and we should, USF should be a win and Villanova is not playing well, SJU trounced them today at Nova. We need to finish strong and get that #1 seed.
HTP !
And you have to be kidding with Taylor. He has no clue how to play defense on the blocks. Dixon uses him just to spell Big G these days.
But, for the love of God, they have got to do something with the free throw shooting. Over the last decade, one of the best of any team in history, starting with Ben and continuing with Jamie, the friggin’ f.t. shooting??
I could understand if you’re debating %76 compared to say 68%, “what can you do?”, but guys shooting 40% and 50%’s, consistently for 10 years.
Oh, yes, you could pick a year and prove me wrong, but, in general, that has been a trademark thorn.
I say this with love, not mocking, he has to know someone in the business, that teaches free throw shooting. Players can vastly improve. They are doing something wrong down there with technique, teaching, form, something. They’re always “working” on it, but this has been going on for years.
I love Jamie, wouldn’t trade him or the last 10 years for anything, but, there is a problem that has to be addressed in the future.
Surely, he has some buddies or buddies who know someone, that is a free throw guru, or free throw improvement specialist???
Pens brought in someone a few years ago, that was an expert on “cycling the puck” to spend a couple days to show them improved techniques.
Surely there is someone out there to help us improve??? No??? You mean if a kid is a %45 f.t. shooter in high school, that’s what he’ll be for his career, and that’s it???
Seems like I hear the phrase, “he has improved his free throw percentage this year from x to y” constantly during college hoop games.
Never hear that one during a Pitt game though, LMAO.
Oh well, gotta get USF and Nova. Better be ready to play USF!!! They’re gonna be there, on the court, ready to play to win.
Their heart is in the right place, but, rubbish!! Free throw games have cost us games over the years. When you go 9-21, or 4-13, or 8-23 as examples, that does “cost you the game!!”
Funny, some people think it’s a last second free throw that only cost you the game!!
I’ve tried to explain, it’s like the dealer throwing you an extra couple cards, freebies, you’ve got to take advantage during the game!!! They are just as important points as a last second free throw, geesh, some people don’t get it.
Good night all!! Hail to Pitt!!!
I suspect that many of you will remember that I vented last week after the SJU Game about Pitt’s terrible showing on the charity stripe. Well, this time I am calm cool and collected and will simply say that Pitt will possibly be a #2 seed in the NCAA and be forced to play in some far away time zone. I would not be surprised to see Pitt drop to #2 in the Big East or tie for for the top. This team does not have the ability to shoot free throws. 55% 55% 55% HORRIBLE!!
Less than 60% against The Johnnies.
Oh, but isnore the games were on the road….THE NCAA’s ARE ON THE ROAD. Dan called it like I did
last week and I say it again Jamie Dixon is a top notch coach, however, he needs to find somebody who can teach the basics of foul shooting..YES FOUL SHOOTING TECHNIQUE CAN BE LEARNED.
Pitt is headed for another drop-out at The Sweet 16 mark…Elite 8? Final 4 NO WAY SHOOTING UNDER 60% from the foul line….NO WAY!!
There is a HUGE difference between a conference road game and a NCAA tournament game on a neutral court. Going into yesterday’s game Pitt had the best road record in the nation. And Pitt is basically a play of two away from being undefeated on the road in the toughest conference in the nation.
In regards to free throws, if it was so simple to teach shooting free throws then wouldn’t everyone make them. And I’m sure McGhee and Robinson practice their free throws. So it’s not an effort thing. Besides, what does teaching have to do with Brown who is basically a 80% free throw shooter going 2/5 from the line in the game and Patterson went 0/2 and he was shooting about 80% on the year from the line. So that is a total of 2/7 from two guys who shoot 80%. On the other side of the ball, Siva a 67% free throw shooter went 6/6. Teams just really love shooting free throws against Pitt.
I think the number one reason for the loss in this game is the stretch of 8 minutes without a FG. Pitt makes just one shot during that stretch, then Pitt gets the win irregardless of free throws. When Pitt plays it’s A game free throws don’t matter, because Pitt will be up enough on the team.
I’m not sure why some people are being so negative (well besides being typical Pitt fans). Pitt has two games left in the Big East, one on the road against the terrible South Florida team and second home, for the last game of the season against Nova. Pitt has been rolling at the Pete minus that flukey game against ND. If Pitt can’t beat Nova on Saturday, then they don’t deserve to win the Big East. 27-4 in the regular season in the Big East is definitely good enough for a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
A few things that I find disconcerting: Gibbs disappearing act, again, in the last 10 minutes or so of the second half, and the fact that we really get no offense from McGhee or Taylor aside from the occasional put back. I know McGhee has made tremendous strides, but the fact that he has not been able to master just a simple offensive post move or two is highly disappointing and makes Pitt a far more predictable team. Then again, he’d have to catch the ball cleanly to make a move, and that just doesn’t happen.
And coming back to a comment from another thread the other day, perhaps I’m oversimplifying things and just not looking carefully enough, but it really does seem that backdoor cuts are there. Heck, even the threat of one, just executing a cut once in a while, will at least get defenders thinking about it and perhaps create a little space for Gibbs. Perhaps this would change the flow of the offense in some ways, but given the offensive struggles in the last 5-6 games, I don’t necessarily know if that’s a bad thing.
Still think this team can do some big things, if Wanny, Gil, and Gibbs can all get on the same page for a stretch of games and the remaining players just play solid ball. A lot to ask, but by no stretch impossible, IMO.
I can teach my wife (who has never touched a basketball) to shoot 50% from the ft line.
Conversely, we never seem to press, which allows other teams to come downcourt easily. This just doesn’t seem physically efficient.
Agree that when Pitt is focused and motivated, they can beat anyone, with a number of weapons. It will be interesting to see where Jamie puts his emphasis and the priorities over the next week and a half. Winning the BE regular-season would seem to give us a #1 seeding in the NCAAs. I would like to see Pitt play–and beat–at least one of the teams we lost to during the regular season, just to prove we can beat them. If ND gets the #2 BE seeding, we’d have to go all the way to the BE championship. A more likely scenario would be getting to play SJU again. Regardless, I don’t want to see Pitt kill themselves, just to win a BE Tourney. I’d rather them be fresh for the NCAAs.
Dan expresses much more completely and articulately than I could the frustration many of us feel over Pitt’s free-throw shortcomings.
It’s such an obvious, glaring deficiency that NEEDS TO BE FIXED, despite the overall wonderfulness of JD and his program.
1) Keep coming back to that 10min stretch with no FG. Somebody has to step up and hit a jumper…I really think Wanny needs to assert himself in that situation when Brown is on the bench, and Gibbs is cold.
LESSON– Against good competition, at no time can Pitt afford to have 2 out of the 3 key offensive cogs (Wanny, Gibbs, and Brown) to be MIA. Brown was really doing well and Gibbs’ shot was off. Wanny needs to break that ameoba zone and bust that 12 footer (like he did at the end of the game). He does that a couple times in that 10min stretch, and we take the lead in the second half and, who knows….
2) Press– I felt like we did one of the BEST jobs ever against UL’s press yesterday. I loved how we attacked the press with the hail mary, split seem and other walk ups. Considering the UL intensity and our usual propensity for turnovers in those press situations, I thought we did a great job. Looking at our TOs again, we mostly turned the ball over in transition off of defensive rebounds. We only had a couple, press-causing, turnovers.
LESSON– We are experienced and skilled enough to handle these Missouri/UL/Nova type teams when they bring 40 minutes of hell…beyond just surviving, meaning, we can actually score and exploit this scheme. Kudos to JD for working on this a lot in preparation (maybe he cut back on layup and FT time as a result, ugh!)
3) Siva (insert any ridiculously fast PG in the country) absolutely destroyed us off the dribble for nearly 30 minutes of the game. We had no answer but double team, help d (which opened the wing up for open shots). Not until late in the game did we sag into a 2/3 to stop this. Once again, in JD I trust…but I keep wanting him to adjust a little faster on these dribble penetrators with scheme or personnel.
LESSON– Uberquick guards getting penetration and dishing out will be a problem for us and we need to react quicker or expose ourselves to wide open 3s or mismatches with 5s on 1s.
This results in lots of turnovers and easy transition buckets. We would have the necessary shot blocker in the back of the press with Khem Birch, as well as the 6’11” Malcom Gilbert. But Birch is supposed to be a phenomenal shot blocker.
We have basically 3 point guards next year with Woodall, Gibbs & Epps. 3 shooting guards with Patterson, Wright & Johnson (Gibbs interchangeable). Lot of wing players in the 6’6″ to 6’7″ range (Moore, Bond, Johnson, Patterson) and 4 big guys (Taylor, Birch, Gilbert & Zanna)
The full court press makes for a very entertaining game with lots of dunks and such.
With all the cupcakes in the non-con, there would be plenty of time to get it fully up to speed before BigEast play. We haven’t had the athletes in the past to implement this style of play, if ever there is a time, it’s next year.
What the hell is Tru TV?