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December 31, 2010

Big East Bits Before New Year

Filed under: Big East,Conference,Money — Chas @ 4:13 pm

Don’t have a lot today.

I mean, there is always the rehashing of Pitt decommits, but none of it is a revelation. Just a rundown on losses and possible losses. Honestly, the only one that I really wish wouldn’t have decommitted was cornerback Kyshoen Jarrett. Really could use the depth there. Jameel Poteat is annoying since he is a talented back and related to Hank Poteat, but I don’t feel too bothered. It’s wait and see on everyone else.

If you want to know why I don’t really like the idea of too many games at the Con for Pitt basketball, just check out the long-term effects of UConn’s cash grabs by playing in Hartford at the larger XL Center.

Jim Calhoun would like you to make it part of your party plans as you welcome in 2011. The Huskies just found out what life is like on the road, losing to Pitt at the rowdy Petersen Events Center. UConn would love to have a similar home court advantage for the 10 remaining home games.

“Clearly, a lot of people care about our basketball program,” Calhoun said. “They need to get out and we need to find out ways to make sure they get into the building. The building atmosphere becomes important. In Maui, it was a great atmosphere. 2,400 people, a great atmosphere. Other times, the places have become a little dead. … We need our fans to show up as much as they possibly can. Every home game becomes critical.”

None of their games in Hartford are sold out, with several thousand tickets remaining. The energy levels are that much lower. The students aren’t just marginalized. They are frustrated by having to make the trip and makes them less enthusiastic.

It’s the end of the year, so let’s hit the biggest topic on this blog all year long. Expansion.

This article looks back a bit on Big East expansion for basketball. Conclusion: it has been bad if you were in the lower half.

…There are no easy games, especially for the teams that annually reside in the bottom of the conference. The post-expansion Big East has established a new world order where two very different levels of success (see attached graphic) have emerged in what is unquestionably the deepest league in the country.

Life in the upper half — the Top Nine — of the conference remains unbelievably challenging but also very rewarding. The top of the conference has enjoyed glamorous TV matchups, big-time recruits and trips to the Final Four.

The flip side is what the remaining seven schools — including Providence College — have encountered in this brave, new world. Faced with schedules stocked with Top 10 teams nationally, the Bottom Seven always seem to be swimming upstream. The Top Nine have won more than 80 percent of their contests against the Bottom Seven. While most of the nine annually parade into The NCAA Tournament, only one of the seven (Seton Hall in 2006) has ever advanced to the Big Dance.

Unlike the football side of things, coaching stability with the best programs plays a role in things. The best 9 teams have only had 2 coaching changes since expansion: WVU and Marquette. The best teams haven’t had their coaches poached except for Crean and Beilein.

All seven of the lower-half programs have had at least one coaching change — all firings. There’s a whole chicken/egg thing to the winning and coaching stability. I lean harder on the winning creating the coaching stability. The top-9 programs were already winning before the expansion.

Speaking of expansion, Central Florida got a puff-piece in USA Today. The funniest thing was this bit of bull.

There is no question UCF has a lot of people watching. While rumors abound in the fall that UCF was about to join the Big East — Hitt was even stopped recently on campus and was told by a student the deal was done, news to him — those in the know are trying to calm the excitement. The Knights want to make sure they are ready for the sliders of the world and they are taking it a little slower than some would want.

“They want it so badly,” admits Hitt, of the attitude of UCF followers.

And he’s confident that time is coming. But there are other factors. The Big East looks inviting, and Tribble agrees getting into a BCS league is a priority. But the truth? There are other conferences showing interest in what’s going on in Orlando. There are even some discussions about possibly merging Conference USA with the Mountain West to form a BCS conference — something Hitt is not taking lightly, since he was one of the originators of such a plan.

A bowl win against Georgia, which would be the school’s first, could create even more of a frenzy around the young home run hitter who, for all BCS league considerations, is a free agent.

[Emphasis added.]

Yes, I’m sure the Sun Belt or MAC would love to have UCF. Another BCS conference? Not likely unless Texas decides to expand the Big 12/10 into Florida (something theoretically possible, but highly improbable). The ACC isn’t going to take a 3d Florida school. The SEC, Big 10/12 and Pac-12 aren’t coming calling.

The MWC-C-USA team-up. It’s possible, but unlikely now that Utah, BYU and TCU are out of the MWC. Combining both conferences just creates too many bottom-feeders and not nearly enough programs capable of being top-25 on a regular basis. Outside of Boise St., name a program that has shown it can do it consistently. Potentially? Sure. There’s Houston, ECU, SMU, UCF, Fresno, SDSU, and maybe even Nevada. But none of those teams have maintained to this point. And there is no way the BCS would bite.

UCF and everyone else knows that the only option/hope/possibility is the Big East. Everything else is merely blowing smoke.

On that note. Enjoy the New Year and Hail to Pitt.





Happy New Year, Chas, and thanks for all the great info and the opportunity to interact with other Pitt fans (or otherwise).

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by steve 12.31.10 @ 4:37 pm

I think what hurt UConn is that they did not play an away game in the pre-season. All their games were either home or at neutral site — hope that doesn’t hurt Pitt in their 1st BE away game.

Maybe the fact that CUSA and MWC are ponderng expansion might be the last straw for the BE inviting UCF — natural rival to USF, large TV market, great recruiting area .. they should not be ignored.

And it is high time to split the BE into FB teams and non-FB teams (you can out ND with the nons.)

One last item … did you see the C Weis is considering taking the UF OC job? Just ow much money are they paying for hime to go from an NFL OC to a college OC. It may also point out the difference in college prorams … maybe UF, Bama and OSU are the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies while Pitt, Cincy and USF are the Pirates, Royals and Orioles.

Comment by wbb 12.31.10 @ 4:57 pm

Thanks Chas – for all the hard work you put in and for the level-headedness you show daily. Have a great 2011.

Comment by Reed 12.31.10 @ 5:01 pm

Thanks Chas. Always interesting reading and spirited discussion. Look forward to more of the same next year.

Comment by Scott 12.31.10 @ 5:08 pm

I’ll pile on. Chas, thanks for running a great blog. Fellow posters, thanks for the entertaining and (mostly) intelligent discussions.

Happy New Year!
Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Navy Panther 12.31.10 @ 5:43 pm

I’ll ditto that as well, Chas. Thank you, and Happy New Year.

Comment by PO'd Panther 12.31.10 @ 5:53 pm

Dittos here to Chas and Happy New Year to the Dan’s and all the rest of the bloggers on this post. One thing is for sure, 2010 was not a dull year for us!

Hoping for a bowl win,a final four for Jamie, 10 wins for the football team and a major bowl victory in 2012. One last wish for my favorite women’s bball coach Agnus B. to have a great season and show improvement each game.

Thanks to all for the depth of discussion and the interaction. We all share a deep love of our University…and diverse opinions.

Comment by Dan 72 12.31.10 @ 6:33 pm

Mike Haywood was arrested today in south bend on a domestic violence charge.

Comment by Scott 12.31.10 @ 6:58 pm

Source: wndu.com

Comment by Scott 12.31.10 @ 6:59 pm

Unbelievable, just when you thought it could not get worse. With all our senior citizen coaches, it would be a domestic violence arrest in the middle of the afternoon. Imagine what Dana Horgerson must have been if he could not pass the background check. And people were upset Wanny could not control 100 teenagers…ha ha ha. I can hear the laughter in Morgantown already! If this does not cost Pederson his job, then we get what we deserve…

Comment by tmac 12.31.10 @ 7:29 pm

here’s the link to the Haywood story:

link to wndu.com

Comment by Scott 12.31.10 @ 7:33 pm

So long, Mike. We hardly knew ya.
Ralph Freidgen anyone?

Man I hope they fire Steve Pedersen.

Comment by ChrisA 12.31.10 @ 8:13 pm

Pederson is crying Wannstedt cant stop laughing. The players are thinking hypocrite. The chancellor is mad pissed off . and Haywood is saying i was just useing discipline. What a mess he was a greate hire sure he was. Happy new year to you all.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.31.10 @ 11:13 pm

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