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November 9, 2010

“We’ve Got A Long Way To Go”

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 12:38 pm

That was Coach Dixon’s mantra after the game last night. During his post-game interview with Andy Katz on ESPN-U, he repeated that several times. That and pointing out how difficult an opening game this was, and that no one else was playing this hard of an opener. A less than subtle reminder to poll voters that a close win in the opener was a against a really good team.

He’s right on both counts, but let’s focus on the journey in front of Pitt. A sloppy, uneven game should not have been unexpected by Pitt.

Obviously the perimeter defense needs some work. Rhode Island was borderline insane from outside the arc, but Pitt was late at times closing out on shooters. I mean 42 of the Rams 75 points came from 3s. It’s always difficult to judge how bad a perimeter defense is when a team is shooting like that. Delroy James was a career 30% 3-point shoter, and he hit 50% — and some deep ones at that. Malesevic was even worse last year, but he shot 4-6 from outside.

On offense the most glaring issue was not finishing around the rim. I mean, the number of times all of the players didn’t finish was insane. That seems unlikely to be a regular thing, and on the plus side Pitt’s penetration (against an admittedly soft Rhode Island D) was excellent.

Three point shooting wasn’t exactly strong fro Pitt. Gibbs struggled outside the arc, but was surprisingly strong attacking the rim and still solid shooting inside the arc.

There wasn’t much to an inside game with McGhee, Taylor and Zanna. It was mainly following and finishing on offense for them. That — as pointed out in the comments — is that the offense was running through the guards last night as Pitt was willing to push the tempo.

Onto some individual player thoughts.

Brad Wanamaker was outstanding. He carried Pitt’s offense early, scoring 10 of Pitt’s first 20 points. He attacked the rim, and spent most of the game making sure everyone was involved. He had a hell of stat-stuffing game with 24 points, 8 assists and only 2 turnovers. He also made the smart decision, early in the second half, to go straight at Martell and force Martell into committing his 4th foul. Making URI smaller inside and easier for Pitt to get rebounds and extra chances on offense.

Gibbs was also very good, aside from shooting 3s. I was half-expecting a dunk when he led the break away since he claimed that he could now dunk.

Gilbert Brown *sigh*. They tried to get him involved early and often and he couldn’t hit shots, and then struggled to throw down alley-oops. His frustration was visible as he picked up some fouls. Then had mental lapses early in the second half. Coach Dixon stuck with Brown, though, and later in the game had a nice spurt. First game, so I’m trying not to assume it is more of the same from last year.

Talib Zanna was as impressive as people had been saying. He looked a bit overwhelmed in the first couple minutes. Struggling to remember his assignment — especially in coming out to the perimeter. But as the game went on, he got more comfortable and really looked good. Very promising.

McGhee had a relatively quiet night. He had a couple blocks early, which (along with their lack of size) drove Rhode Island to the perimeter rather than try to force things inside.

Travon Woodall was decent. There is still an adjustment when he comes in to the game. The offense struggled to find itself.

All in all, a good game. They should have no problem with UIC tomorrow.





I agree with your assessment, Chas. I do think Zanna’s progress will be a big key. He can be special. That combination of size and athleticism is pretty unheard of.

What is UIC’s story? Are they supposed to be any good? Just tell me they don’t press and shoot threes.

Comment by Joe 11.09.10 @ 2:22 pm

Great post, Chas. Rhode Island is a good team from a better conference (A-10) than the ones that teams we’re used to belong to (SWAC and Southern), and there’s no shame in them playing a tough game, especially when they were shooting the way they did. The only question I have is, what happened to JJ Moore? All indications were he’d get playing time, especially with Nasir out, but he didn’t even get time. I understand it was a tight game throughout but it’s not as if Patterson or Zanna had too much more experience.

Comment by merlin 11.09.10 @ 4:29 pm

Spot on, Chas. Wanamaker our GTG. Surprised not seeing Moore out there. Redshirt?

Comment by steve 11.09.10 @ 4:35 pm

Moore hardly played against IUP so i assume a possible redshirt is in the cards for him.

Comment by Fred 11.09.10 @ 4:50 pm

Looks like Jamie is going to give Lamar Patterson every opportunity to earn that back up forward position. Brown will start and Wannamaker will get some minutes. Doesn’t leave many minutes for Moore. Keeping the redshirt a possibility for Moore is smart. If Patterson proves he’s not up to it or if Moore proves in practice he is better, then Jamie will have a decision to make.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 11.09.10 @ 5:18 pm

I would think Moore will get some time against Illinois-Chicago. If he doesn’t…….then RS is possible. Epps is going to be a RS as well and more than likely Cameron Wright, I think his name is. Which stockpiling players for when Khem Birch comes might not be a bad idea. If we can have a very good team this year and redshirt the whole incoming freshmen class, this could set us up for something very special in a few years. Too bad they didn’t redshirt Dante last year. He still looks kinda lost.
Hail to Pitt !

Comment by VirgilSollozzo 11.09.10 @ 5:35 pm

Of course all of this could be because Coach is making sure we’re ready for our trip to NYC and the Maryland, Texas-Illinois winner, games. Both of which are going to be tough.

Comment by VirgilSollozzo 11.09.10 @ 5:37 pm

for one of the few very times, I felt very uneasy about Jamie’s post-season game comments. For one thing, he seemed to blame ESPN for scheduling a difficult game so early … also, it’s much too early to campaign for poll positions; winning will take care of itself.

I assume Gilbert will be the star vs UIC. Maybe Jamie should play Gilbert just for 2 minutes every other game and give Moore more PT instead.

Comment by wbb 11.09.10 @ 7:30 pm

I think JJ is too good to keep off the floor

Comment by Tony Cancilla 11.09.10 @ 7:38 pm

Agree about Zanna– very raw athleticism, but he struggles with some basketball elements such as hedging and recovering, and transition D (seemed several times much too content to lag behind and pick up a PG bringing the ball up– this led to mismatches that RI exploited).

Hoping Trey Woodall settles in– seemed, much like many times last year– that he’s pressing again, out of control. Needs to be able to push tempo while making smart decisions.

Think overall, we’re gonna have to get used to the Brad and Ashton show (with hopefully Gil appearing in a supporting role very prominently.)

Comment by Jason 11.09.10 @ 7:44 pm

You can’t redshirt 3 players in the same freshman class. This is basketball not football. You only have 13 scholarships. Especially given the fact that Pitt’s recruiting is heating up. Moore will play. I will bet money on it.

Comment by Omar 11.09.10 @ 9:17 pm

Hope so, Omar. Moore’s got GTG potential.

Comment by steve 11.09.10 @ 9:32 pm

Omar–
Why can’t you? I mean, we graduate three seniors, but next year still have Gibbs, Woodall, Patterson, Taylor, Zanna, Richardson, Robinson, all who have (or will have) big-game experience. If Moore, Wright, and Epps aren’t needed this year, it’s silly to waste a redshirt for the few minutes they’d even be able to contribute in the first place. Assuming Moore is the only one even potentially good enough to play this year, how would he find minutes behind Brown/Wanamaker/Patterson/Gibbs? He’d be lucky to get 3-5 minutes a game and that’s not worth it to burn the redshirt.

Comment by merlin 11.09.10 @ 11:06 pm

Great comments Chas and et al. I think when JD reviews the film he may change his comments a bit. That was a very good and very well coached RI team with one and maybe two players who are going to play in the NBA. A top 20 finish is not out of the question. It’s the first frickin game for XXXX sakes. Pitt had some lapses but played terrific against an inspired opponent who came to win! All problems are minor and solvable. Most of all, we made our closing foul shots….we have not done that often in the past. On to game two…

Comment by Dan 72 11.09.10 @ 11:17 pm

Its way too early to prognosticate on redshirts.
If JJ is the most game ready, JD will not hesitate to use him around 5min a game. Especially, come conference games and the dog games of February.

Invariably, there will be time for these guys to practice their way onto the court in non conference.

Comment by Pauly P 11.10.10 @ 8:00 am

I’m not sure I agree with Dan that URI has 2 NBA players but they do have experience, and are very well coached. I support that they are well-coached by stating the Jim Baron got St. Bonaventure into the NCAA tournament in 2000 where they lost to Kentucky 85-80. Nuff said. I will say that I don’t think URI duplicates that 3-point shooting all year. Brown was in James face for his last 4 3-pointers, (all makes). We were lucky to escape with a W as that type of shooting typically results in an L.

Comment by Wannstache 11.10.10 @ 8:12 am

Agree, Dan 72. RI is going to give their opponents fits this year, especially if they stay healthy. I think the closeness of the game had Jamie a little nervous – as well as most of us – which you normally don’t experience with a first game at home. His comment to Staples was part a reflection of that and part pulling Andy’s chain.

I do think when he looks at the film, he’ll see a number of positives. Here are a few I saw:
– RI’s 3-pt barrage came from 3 players who shot a combined 50% from beyond the arc with some of those shots being well beyond NBA range. But those 3 guys were a combined 2 for 11 otherwise.
– The book on James, who has NBA-level talent, was that he was dangerous as a slasher, meaning points plus fouls on the other team. He was pretty much forced into taking 3s because of the way Gil played him, and I think if Gil was at 100% in game shape, he would have played him even tighter.
– Richmond hit a couple of insane step-back shots with a guy in his face. He’s either that good or had a lucky night. We’ll see. But that backfired as he took a couple of poor % shots toward the end of the game.
– Pitt’s guard play was very good. Wanny was excellent and would have been near perfect but for a bad shot and a few missed finishes. Gibbs showed he’s worked on creating his own shot and that he’s clutch as always. Trey was pressing a bit but he also sped up the game which is what Jamie wants from him.
– Zanna will be a PTP by BE play. The guy has Brown-like athleticism and surprising skill. He just needs experience.
– Taylor didn’t show much on the stat sheet, but he looks to be in great shape, he’s playing much better D, and he’s aggressively going to the glass. He’ll be a contributor, and one big game could turn him into a major contributor, because it’s mostly mental with him right now.
– McGhee ran the floor very well. They guy’s just a beast, and a couple of cheap fouls kept him from having a better game.

Overall, a very enjoyable opening game with two solid teams going at each other. Pitt showed that their depth will be difficult to deal with and that when they need to they can still clamp down and dominate their opponent. It will make for a fun – and at times a nerve-racking – season.

Comment by TampaT 11.10.10 @ 8:34 am

Sorry, meant Andy Katz in the first sentence. Got my “experts” confused. That’s the trouble with football and basketball overlapping. 🙂

Comment by TampaT 11.10.10 @ 8:46 am

They shot like a billion three pointers and Pitt missed about 10 easy layups in the first half.

That’s usually the classic, mid-major over big program NCAA tournament upset recipe.

And Pitt still won.

I’m not too worried.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 11.10.10 @ 8:48 am

That’s the difference between football and basketball now. Every time we have a slight advantage in football, ever fan is wondering how we are going to blow the game.

In hoops, however, even though RI was shooting out of their minds and we were missing some bunnies I was never really concerned about winning the game. I always felt like our guys would seize control and make the plays when they had to. All of those kids know how to win and know what they need to do to make it happen. The mentality of the program is that we ARE going to win every game….that is where the football program needs to get to.

Comment by TJ 11.10.10 @ 9:52 am

Dead on TJ, but hard for the football team to believe it’s going to win every game when the coach keeps telling them, “just don’t do anything to lose the game.” I’ll bet a case of Bell’s Two-Hearted, my recent favorite, that in one of these last few games, Pitt will have a late, close lead and Wanny will play it so conservative that he gives the W away.

Comment by Carmen 11.10.10 @ 12:14 pm

You don’t redshirt top-50 recruits that are already 19 years old. It’s stupid. If he has a break-out year in the next 2 or 3 he’s gone anyway. Let him play unless he gets injured. Then worry about a red-shirt.

Comment by Omar 11.10.10 @ 1:14 pm

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