As promised, Part 2 of the Big East Expansion Roundtable is available at On the Banks. Go take a read.
Big 11 commish Delany sent e-mails to all of the Big 11 athletic directors to let them know that no offers were made to other schools at this time.
Florida State has decided to make sure the SEC knows that if the SEC just happens to look into expansion, FSU might be willing to think about it.
FSU Athletic director Randy Spetman told the Sentinel’s Andrew Carter from the ACC meetings, “You have to look at all the different things out there,” Spetman said. “I hope we maintain [the ACC] where it is — the structure it is right now. But I don’t know if that’s going to happen.”
When the ACC expanded it was about trying to grab a bigger share of BCS money, getting a conference championship game and improving a conference TV deal. This time, expansion is about being in the conference that pulls in as much money as possible — period. The greed is a little more naked and individual.
Speaking of greed, the feeling that Missouri is gone to the Big Something has Kansas City a little on edge.
What becomes of the Border War? The annual Missouri-Kansas football skirmish at Arrowhead Stadium has become a can’t-miss affair that generates more than $1 million a year for the game’s visiting team. But KU athletic director Lew Perkins told The Kansas City Star on Tuesday it would be difficult to continue an athletic relationship with a team that had left the conference.
Could the Big 12’s basketball tournaments and football championship games be conducted in a state that no longer had a member school? It hasn’t happened in any sport in the conference’s 14-year history. And would the city welcome Big Ten schools the way it does the Big 12?
Part of what has made Kansas City an attractive destination for Big 12 events is that it is one of the more central locations for all members. That would still be true, but when you consider how aggressively Jerry Jones and other Texas cities have been going after college sports events, the loss of Mizzou and probably Nebraska only grows the Texas (and Oklahoma) schools influence in the decision making.
Interesting. The Mountain West may need to invite Boise State this summer.
The Mountain West Conference presidents meet next month, and there’s at least a decent chance that they will formally invite BSU — if not immediately after the gathering, then before July 1.
Here’s why:
If the MWC wants Boise State’s performance in the 2008-10 seasons to be included in the formula that determines whether the MWC receives an automatic BCS bid for the next cycle of games — and it sure as heck does — then the Broncos must be a member of the MWC in 2011.
And for them to be a member in 2011, they must be invited by July 1, 2010.
To say nothing of acting proactively before the other conferences start picking things apart. Conference expansion and realignement may be initiated by the Mountain West firing the first real shot.
A Louisiana-centric look at expansion including the hope that La Tech can get out of the WAC and to C-USA.
The Clemson blog, Shakin’ the Southland, has a really solid piece on ACC media contracts and Clemson’s place in them. He seems to be of the opinion that the ACC will need to look beyond ESPN for the money. This jibes with my thoughts that ESPN is so tied in with the Big Something and SEC that the other conferences are going to struggle to get the money and exposure they really crave.
A story claiming “sources” that the Big Something is planning for 16 teams.
Here’s what is happening today with Big Ten expansion, which is almost certainly headed for a 16-team conference, based upon sources who can be trusted and who prefer that their names not be revealed.
The Big Ten within a couple of years will likely be one of four 16-team national super conferences, with Big 12 football and Big East football the casualties.
Missouri and Nebraska are the best bets to join the Big Ten and begin the break-up of the Big 12. Rutgers and either Syracuse or Pitt are the most likely schools to leave a dissolving Big East and join the Big Ten, although Connecticut is a possibility, as is Maryland from the Atlantic Coast Conference.
The article gives no timeframe for this scenario. And frankly, like any other story citing sources — I scoff a bit. Just because this one comes from Detroit rather than Kansas City does not make it more trustworthy.
Finally, let’s end this with something familiar to me. When the ACC expanded to 11 and then 12, there was much gnashing in the media over the destruction of traditions and history in the ACC and their traditional round-robin of basketball home and homes. It is already starting in Big Something country.
If you consider the pervasive influence of money in big-time college athletics these days, you can’t help but conclude that expansion is inevitable and that the Big Ten will kick off the festivities by absorbing one, three or five schools.
But at what cost?
In addition to rendering the conference’s name even more mathematically incorrect, there will be some downside to a 14 or 16-team Big Ten, much of which has been buried deep in the discussion.
First and foremost will be the loss of traditional rivalries.
And these predictable stories is why I want the Big Something to expand to 16 with Pitt in there. It’s all about the money, and nothing else.
What he didn’t mention, of course, is that BTN won’t automatically get 70 cents/month per subscriber just because Rutgers joins the Big Whatever. The BTN will have to negotiate a new fee/access structure with the cable companies, the outcome of which would be based on how much the cable companies think their subscriber base wants to watch Rutgers games.
All that said, this decision will be made by university presidents who know nothing about sports or the cable TV business, and they’ll probably buy the most optimistic assumptions about the revenue that Rutgers will bring in. Their pupils will turn into little dollar signs, just like in the old cartoons, after they see that powerpoint slide that says RU could bring in an additional $25M per year.
So, yeah, Rutgers is probably in, but I doubt they’ll deliver anywhere close to $25M per year.
Pittsburgh and Florida State produced the most fertile NFL draft
pipelines over the past three decades.”
Then think how much CNN, ESPN, and other cable channels people actually watch might get per subscriber. Then think about whatever the BTN gets is divided in two, with FOX getting half.
The BTN has live football on 14 to 15 saturdays per year. It has mens b-ball on more, but let’s face it, no one is watching Big10 b-ball. The rest of the year it’s women’s volleyball replays at 3am. There is NO WAY they could ever get $1 per month from cable – not to mention satellite, which charges less and has more channels. I think $0.25/month is generous, and you have to cut that in half.
“Don’t subscribers actually have to watch the games?
Nope. That’s why only about 800,000 households watch an average primetime show on ESPN, but 100 million households are paying almost $5/month for access to ESPN.”
And even besides its ratings, which are very good, the reason that ESPN can charge a lot of money to cable companies is that a lot of people simply won’t buy a cable package that doesn’t include ESPN. Can the same be said of BTN in New Jersey?
The cable companies just are not going to pay high per-subscriber fees to BTN unless they think there’s a large audience for the product, and I don’t think it’s clear that there’s that much demand in NJ. It’s very optimistic, if not delusional, to think that just because BTN is worth 70 cents/subscriber in traditional Big 10 areas like Ohio and Wisconsin, it will be worth the same amount in New Jersey, where the Big 10 brand isn’t established and people care mainly about pro sports.
They are swimming in it over there in the Big10, but the BTN does not produce the kind of money that it’s getting credit for producing. And remember – FOX gets half right off the top.
How reaslistic is this scenario?
The conference takes in approximately 70 cents per subscription each month from within the Big Ten footprint, a figure that’s been widely reported and confirmed by Mediaweek Senior Editor Anthony Cruppi. Outside the footprint, in states such as Missouri and Nebraska, BTN subscriptions deliver about a dime per month to the conference.
Big 10 network can get 70 cents/month(or more)from three million-plus NJ cable homes vs only 10 cents from non-Big 10 area homes.
Figure that’s worth up to $25M/yr in subscriber fees from Jersey.
Big 10 already gets Pgh home subscribers because of PSU. Syracuse doesn’t provide much in subscriber revenue the way RU does.
ND may give them more leverage with more cable operators outside of Indiana and existing Big Ten markets.