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April 14, 2010

The New Blood on Offense

Filed under: Football,Players,Practice — Chas @ 9:03 am

Stories in the dailies today focus on some of the new guys on offense. First up, the soon to be highly scrutinized Tino Sunseri at QB.

“I’ve been prepared for this opportunity right now,” he said. “I think, the way spring ball has been going, it has been a learning experience for me every day. Whenever you are the No. 2, like I was last year, you aren’t really getting the reps and you don’t see things like a Greg Romeus rushing from the outside and different coverages.

“I feel like I’ve come a long way just even in this spring.”

Coaches haven’t officially installed Sunseri as the starter yet and aren’t likely to until closer to training camp, but they have referred to him as their current No. 1 and they have made it clear by the way Sunseri and Bostick have been used.

Although Sunseri can throw all the passes, has a strong arm, quick release and all the intangibles to be an excellent quarterback, the one question that seems to follow him is his height.

He is listed at 6 feet 2, but that seems to be a little bit of a stretch as he looks smaller when he is in the pocket.

“A bit.” Naturally any vertically challenged QB will bring up Drew Brees for comparison. That’s all fine. The issue will be Sunseri making good decisions and finding the seams to throw the ball. That and presumably the offense will be tweaked enough to allow him to roll out and move around a lot more to find openings to pass the ball.

I have faith that OC Cignetti is planning to operate that way, but that still depends on the offensive line being able to block in a slightly different way.

Next, the tight end spot, and replacing Dorin Dickerson.

“You can replace his position, but you can’t replace Dorin,” Cignetti said.

It’s a huge challenge for Dickerson’s successor to fashion a stat sheet that reads: 49 catches, 529 yards and 10 touchdowns.

More important, can the new starting tight end draw the attention of outside linebackers and strong safeties to force man coverage on flanker Jon Baldwin, who amassed 57 receptions for 1,111 yards and eight scores?

Mike Cruz, a 6-foot-5, 270-pound redshirt sophomore from Bishop McCort in Johnstown, is the most likely to earn the job.

“There’s a lot of pressure, but you can’t let that show on the field,” Cruz said. “I just have to try to duplicate what they did on the field. I need to take something from Dorin and Nate and try to be a leader in the tight end room.

“I have to know my assignments. I just have to concentrate on playing ball.”

So far, Cruz has been pushed some in practice by Andrew Devlin and Brock DeCicco.

Devlin, a Mt. Lebanon product, is a transfer from Virginia. DeCicco, the brother of safety Dom DeCicco, redshirted last season.

“The tight end group is kind of like the interior of our offensive line,” Wannstedt said. “It’s a work in progress.”

All three: Cruz, Devlin and DeCicco were highly sought after TEs coming out of high school. It is not that they are lacking in talent and potential. They just aren’t athletic freaks. They are more along the lines of Nate Byham — who did rather well in the spot the year prior. I am not terribly worried about the TE spot in terms of performance or depth.

Looking for more creativity there, is not going to happen. That is why there is talk of using Ray Graham to catch some short passes and get in space. Find other ways to use the talent.





“… I am actually a little bit taller than Drew Brees…” means Sunseri is really 6’0.25″ at best. From the limited looks I’ve gotten, he does seem to have a knack for finding the passing lanes. That makes the tackles even more important. Rather than simply protecting him, they’ll need to open space so he can throw those sideline ball-control patterns that Cignetti likes. Thankfully, we have two good ones.

As far as replacing Dickerson, I think we go away from the skilled tight end to the skilled slot receiver – Greg Cross in an Antwan Randle El old Steelers-like role, catching, running and even passing from the slot. But, I’m an eternal optimist too.

Comment by TampaT 04.14.10 @ 9:47 am

Now that the spring scrimmage is upon us, looks like the dailies are stepping up the FB coverage a bit. One thing to be considered when watching Saturday’s scrimmage is just how awful the offense looked last spring … yet, I thought the offense was the better unit throughout the 09 season, probably due in no small part to Coaches Cignetti and Wise.

BTW, another headline in yesterday’s PG sports was JoePa saying “we’re not a very good football team right now.” Boy, that is unique .. we never heard that one before!

Comment by wbb 04.14.10 @ 9:47 am

The good news about Sunseri is that he has the best skill players as a group at Pitt maybe all time. As long as the line gels, and it should, the O will be great. It helps to have a good back -up in Bostick just in case. Q-backs do get banged up.

I have no concerns at Tight-end as long as they can block. There is no shortage of people to throw to.

My concerns are all on defense. The line should be great. Not sure about the linebackers. I hope Mason is the stud that everyone seems to agree he is. Outside we have some experience but no real strength. Not sure about depth. People seem to think safeties will be fine when DeCicco and Tags return. DeCicco was late to many plays last year and Tags had a serious injury and is small. He is a vicious hitter and has the best football instincts, one of the best special teams guys I have seen. Let’s hope he gets and stays healthy. Holley provides good depth, may step up to start. Corners were weak last year. Big question mark, can they step up? They are inexperienced.If they do, the whole D will be better.

Special teams are also key. Probably cost a victory against Cinci.

Will any freshmen see the field this year? Maybe on special teams. Let’s hope for a couple of surprises, but unless there is a stud linebacker or D-back, I don’t see it happening. Says a lot for how far we have come.

Comment by gc 04.14.10 @ 10:54 am

GC,

My major concern is the outside LB’s, starters are a concern and lack of quality depth, but you never know who might step it up.

Actually the secondary will be much better unless there is an injury or two.

Center and one guard position on the OL is also a concern, but Tony Wise is a very good coach and he will get what he can out of what he has to work with.

Otherwise, Pitt should have a better team this year but might have a worse (wins – loss) record due to the upgrade in the non-con schedule.

Utah is going to be very difficult, Miami is very dangerous and ND will be much better coached.

Comment by The Oakland Jew 04.14.10 @ 12:09 pm

OJ

I hope you are right about the secondary. If we continue to rush only four, individual d-backs must make plays. To me they have to prove it on the field. Other than DeCicco, none have played much.

The offense is clearly good enough to win the Big East and be a top ten team assuming reasonably good Q-B play. It is ironic that we now have more concerns on Defense.

It is good that we have a strong non-com schedule. Playing Utah without a warm-up is gutsy, but if you aspire to the top ten the upgrade is necessary.

Let’s hope this is the year we win the big ones, not just the ones you are supposed to win.

Comment by gc 04.14.10 @ 1:38 pm

“Holley provides good depth, may step up to start.”

Hell, he’s the heart and soul of the DB.

Comment by steve 04.14.10 @ 2:44 pm

And, most important, “brains.”

Comment by steve 04.14.10 @ 2:54 pm

Here is an excerpt about Holley from a story about Pitt’s secondary from Brian Bennett’s ESPN blog today:

Safety has been a patchwork position because injuries kept Dom DeCicco and Andrew Taglianetti from practicing this spring, and Elijah Fields was dismissed earlier this year. But the situation has helped sophomore Jarred Holley, defensive backs coach Jeff Hafley said.

“Last year, Jarred played in every game and he would look over at Dom or look over at Tags for instruction,” Hafley said. “Now, he’s the only one with any experience, and that’s forced him to become a leader and make all the calls. He won’t need to look over at Dom or Tags any more because he’s got confidence and got the defense down, which is huge.”

Comment by wbb 04.14.10 @ 3:33 pm

here is another excerpt from Mike White in today’s PG about a Pitt 2010 commit:

The top sprinter in WPIAL track so far this spring is a player known more for his football ability. Penn Hills’ Brandon Ifill, a Pitt football recruit, has run the 100-meter dash in 10.8 seconds and the 200 in 22.0.

Success in track is nothing new for Ifill. Although Western Pennsylvania indoor track doesn’t get much publicity, Ifill won the Tri-State Coaches Association indoor championships this winter in the 60-meter dash (6.97 seconds) and the 200 in 22.11, both school records. He also ran a leg on the championship 800-meter relay team.

Ifill was recruited by Pitt to play defensive back

Comment by wbb 04.14.10 @ 5:00 pm

WBB

Good stuff, nice to hear Holley is coming on. As a Penn Hills and track alum great to hear the tradition continues. Mason last year, Donald and Ifill this year. Wait till you get a load of Donald.

Comment by gc 04.14.10 @ 5:43 pm

What about Mark Myers and the other recruits? Why aren’t the praticing?

Comment by Salgado 04.14.10 @ 7:10 pm

Myers and the others are still in high school. They will start pacticing on or about Aug 1 .. which is why most of them, especially the QBs will likely be redshirted

Comment by wbb 04.14.10 @ 7:36 pm

Should not take too much to replace Dickersons production in the wvu and Cincy games.

Comment by alcofan 04.14.10 @ 9:11 pm

gc – you may have more concerns on defense but not all PITT fans do. While I realize that we had a glaring problem in the defensive backfield last season and that needs to be rectified – I’m not at all sold on us automatically doing well at the QB position.

I don’t agree with the approach the staff has taken with playing only the one kid at the QB1 slot every play and am not at all convinced that Tino Sunseri should be a ‘lock’ as the starter.

I’d feel much better if he won the competition with a true competition and actually played better than Bostick against the same quality defense throwing to the same quality receivers.

But even more so I’m concerned about Sunseri himself – I’ve been rather amazed at the casual way everyone has written about Sunseri’s height and thrown around comparisons to Drew Breeze of all people. I’d say it may be a stretch to say that Sunseri is a solid 6’0″. I stood on the sidelines next to him last fall and was actually shocked at how short he was. He and Cignetti will have to really address this fact in their playcalling – and I think it will impact the offense more than others think.

And really – to compare Sunseri to Drew Breeze is ridiculous in the extreme… The vast majority, almost all actually, of successful QB’s in college and the Pros are tall men – mostly 6’3″ and larger, and there is a reason for that. When you have monstrously big men flying at you with extended arms it is pretty important to get the ball past them.

Drew Breeze can do this because… well, he is Drew Breeze, and smart and talented as hell.

We’ll see if this works out the way most fans think it will. It well may as Sunseri can move his legs, but I remain wary. I’m just hoping he’s more like Drew Breeze than a similarly sized QB in Cody Hawkins – the short QB from Colorado who failed miserably by throwing way more INTs than TDs during his time in college.

Comment by Reed 04.15.10 @ 4:51 am

Reed, if you are going to make an example of a Big 12 QB in an average football program and attribute his failure to his lack of height, in fairness, should’t you also point out the great careers that two of his Big 12 QB peers had? Kansas QB 5’10 Todd Reesling and Missouri 6’QB Chase Daniels both raised their programs to great new heights (pun intended) over the last few years.

I will entertain the argument that both of them, as Brees, primarily works from the shotgun / spread which helps offset their handicaps, but I see no great reason for alarm at this point and am confident Coach Cignetti can scheme so that the Pitt offense will be productive with Tino at the helm.

Comment by wbb 04.15.10 @ 7:09 am

Reed, I sent Sal some Extenz last night.

I hope it works better for him than it did for me.

Comment by steve 04.15.10 @ 7:09 am

Reed: The only comparisons I’ve seen so far to Brees are in reference to height. No one’s said Sunseri is the second coming of Brees skill-wise. That remains to be proven on the field in real game situations.

My reference to Brees was a direct quote from Sunseri himself and used to point out that Sunseri is no way 6’2″ as he’s listed. Sure his height is a concern. It puts more pressure on the o-line to not only protect but to also open up passing lanes – and for Sunseri to find them.

I too had hoped to see more of a real competition between Sunseri and Bostick. Said so here when the Spring schedule was announced. But, with a new interior line, a new quarterback and a preseason Top 25 team to open with, that might not be realistic. The coaches had to pick someone to be the frontrunner and for whatever reason(s), they chose Sunseri. Like Stull last year, it’s Sunseri’s job to lose, and like Sunseri last year, Bostick apparently hasn’t done enough to take it away. The coaches were right last year, and my hope is that they’re right this year too.

Comment by TampaT 04.15.10 @ 10:21 am

Reed, I also agree with your point about the complete lack of a “competition” at the QB position. All comments that I had seen suggested that there would be an open competition for the position. Cleary, that has not happened. I think this suggests that our offense is going to use a lot more designed roll-outs and option pitches. That requires a QB to have good mobility, which is something that Bostick has not shown. I can only assume that Sunseri is more athletic. In the end, I trust the coaches to now which QB best fits the system we will run.

Comment by HbgFrank 04.15.10 @ 12:43 pm

Tino Sunseri throws a great-looking ball. It’s got zip and a tight spiral. I’ll be stunned if he’s not the starting quarterback, and I think he could have a really good year. Wannstedt praised him for not turning the ball over this spring, which of course is one of Wannstedt’s cardinal rules for his quarterbacks.
-Brian Bennett

FWIW

Comment by Jon in Cbus 04.15.10 @ 1:11 pm

Reed,

I’m with ya. I have always been a Bostick fan. I would have liked it if he was given a better shot. But I have to go with the braintrust. Somebody said in a similiar situation something about being given the keys to the Ferrari. If Sunseri throws interceptions Bostick will get his chance, again. I give the kid a lot of credit taking a redshirt last year. A real team guy.

Comment by gc 04.15.10 @ 9:19 pm

Every report I read last summer was how great Sunseri looked and that he was clearly a superior passer to Stull and Bostick…so unless everybody was yanking our chains, he must have the goods. I have high hopes, but I also am stoked they picked up Myers and expect him to be in the mix either this season or next.

He sounds like Big Ben to me…big kid from Ohio who didn’t get heavily recruited ’cause he didn’t play much until his senior year, but then lit it up…oops, maybe bad comparison right now…nobody talked about his ‘people skills’.

Comment by Matt N. 04.15.10 @ 10:32 pm

Believe me – I’m not doubting Sunseri’s physical skills. I had the opportunity to watch some practices from the sidelines during last summer’s training camp and Sunseri does throw a very pretty pass. When you are up close to the action it is even more impressive. I also do trust the coaching staff to make the correct decision in the long run.

However – the situation this season with our two QB candidates and last year with Stull returning is like comparing apples and oranges. Stull had a full and successful year under his belt going into 2009 – no one was going to usurp him from the starter’s role. That isn’t the case this season.

I would have just liked to have seen what DW himself said that the staff would do – have an open competition for the starting job, with equal opportunity for either kid to succeed… that absolutely did not happen. Sunseri has been chosen to be the QB1 going into 2010 – and while that is certainly the HC and OC’s prerogative, I feel that it does both kids, and the offense, a disservice in the long run.

wbb – I understand there have been successful short QBs at this level – and guys – Sunseri is shorter than you’d think. However, as you stated, those two kids – McDaniels and Reesling – did play in a different offense than PITT will put out on the field. PITT has recruited and built an offense predicated on drop back, play-action passing – the OL we are going to field were picked for that type of ball. We can adapt some and add some new plays to tailor things to compensate for Sunseri’s lack of height, but we will not get away from our bread and butter offense IMO. Add to the fact that Sunseri, at this point, isn’t a quick decision maker back there and….

All I’m saying is be prepared for some rough times from the QB position when full speed game time rolls around.

TampaT – There have been numerous references and comparisons of Sunseri to Drew Breeze on the message boards and Blogs among PITT fans. I wasn’t just responding to what was written above my post.

Comment by Reed 04.16.10 @ 5:45 am

Reed, you make a good point about Tino’slack of experience and the need for a quick decision maker in this offense .. something you ignored in your previous post when you spent 3 or 4 paragraphs on his lack of height.

I’m not so sure that neither Sunseri or Bostick will be minding the store for not more than one year .. although I admit that is pretty premature at this point. However, I do have faith in Cignetti who I believe has the main agenda of picking the best candidate to lead this team … just as I now have faith in Coach Wise will have a pretty decent functioning OL come fall.

Comment by wbb 04.16.10 @ 7:39 am

Thanks for clarifying the Sunseri-Brees comparison comment, Reed. If people are comparing them on anything other than height, then you are correct. That’s ridiculous. Sunseri hasn’t played in a real college game – mop up duty doesn’t count – let alone a game in the pros. For every Brees, there are hundreds of short, former college QBs “going pro in something other than sports.”

I also agree that Pitt will not change its offense to accomodate Sunseri. Wanny recruited kids and they came to Pitt to play in a pro set. That’s what they’ll stay with. Even if they start rolling him out more, it changes the blocking schemes for the entire line and backfield, so he’ll have to be able to operate from the pocket and find passing lanes. If he can’t, we have a very competent replacement in Bostick and a prototypical pro-style QB in Meyers waiting in the wings. A rather tough non-con schedule should sort that all out pretty quickly.

Comment by TampaT 04.16.10 @ 7:40 am

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