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February 28, 2010

Pitt never quite put St. John’s so far down in the second half that there was no chance that they could not come back. At the same time time, Pitt never really let St. John’s close the gap enough to make it probable. Pico put it right.

Watching the game, it seemed like a deeper cut, a more thorough beating. But on the scoreboard and in the box score, it wasn’t.

It also did not hurt just how badly coached St. John’s is. I mean, I have never like St. John’s. Yet, I found myself ticked off at how badly these players have been coached and wasted. Anthony Mason, Jr. is an unfortunate victim of injuries that took away some great skill and ability. But the others, Kennedy, Burrell, Boothe, Hardy and some others. I could picture any and all of them thriving at Pitt. None being particularly huge recruits, but you can see that they have talent, work hard, want to improve and will play defense.

Unfortunately for them, Norm Roberts has shown no clue at how to be a head coach and actually make a team. It is no wonder the papers in NYC barely pay attention to them except to note the frustration and say that Norm Roberts time should be finished.

Here’s a story that has been written by so many, many times over this millennium: Pitt winning without stars.

Sam Young isn’t surprised one bit.The former Pittsburgh standout and current Memphis Grizzlies rookie isn’t shocked one bit at the success the Panthers are enjoying.

“Not at all. Even though they lost some great guys in the program, still this is a program. It’s a system and the system works,” Young said at halftime of No. 12 Pitt’s 71-64 victory over St. John’s (15-13, 5-11 Big East) at Madison Square Garden.

Young addressed the current players at the half. He was in town because the Grizzlies faced the Knicks Saturday night as part of a split college/NBA doubleheader at the Garden.

Despite losing four players who combined for 286 career starts — Young, DeJuan Blair, Levance Fields and Tyrell Biggs — the Panthers are now 22-7, 11-5 in the Big East and headed to the NCAA tournament for the ninth consecutive season, seven straight under head coach Jamie Dixon.

Pitts doesn’t have a single player who is likely to be named to the All-Big East First Team.

Aside from the interesting note that Young addressed the team, it would be that Coach Dixon seems to be pushing Gibbs for Most Improved Player.

After helping the Jamie Dixon-coached USA Under-19 team win the gold medal last summer at the FIBA World Championship in Auckland, New Zealand, Gibbs has 10 games of 20 points or more. “I haven’t really looked at it but the numbers kind of speak for itself,” Jamie Dixon said when asked if Gibbs deserved Most Improved Player honors.

In the last 11 years, five Pitt players have already won the award – Ricardo Greer, Brandin Knight, Carl Krauser, Aaron Gray and Young.

“[Gibbs] stepped up in a big way because last year he was just a role player but that’s what we needed him to be,” Young said. “He’s a very hard worker. Even last year when he first got in he was a hard worker and it’s paying off.”

As for the game itself, there isn’t a lot to say. The struggle to rebound has now reached multiple games and appears problematic.

The rebounding and fouls were what kept St. John’s in the game. Pitt executed its offense so much better. They hit open shots and got more going inside. Gilbert Brown continues to alternate solid offensive games with disappearing acts. This was one of the good games, and he said the right thing about coming off the bench.

Brown, the team’s third-leading scorer at 10.6 points per game, has embraced his role coming off the bench. The 6-foot-6 redshirt junior forward is a candidate for Big East Sixth Man of the Year, an award started last season.

“I really want to be on a winning team, regardless of whether I’m starting or I’m a sixth or seventh man,” Brown said. “Our success as a team is the most important thing.”

I have to wonder if Jermaine Dixon has reaggravated his ankle or his foot hurting. It wasn’t just that Dixon has been pulling up for jumpers a lot more and not penetrating to the basket. He took only a few shots — all jumpers. He had 0 rebounds. He only had one against Notre Dame. And despite Gibbs having more significant foul troubles that limited him, Dixon only played 22 minutes. His one-on-one defense was solid but he seemed to stay outside on both ends.

Nasir Robinson had a very solid game. Scoring on putbacks and finishing inside (5-7) — and at the free throw line (3-3). He was one rebound shy of a double-double with 13 points and 9 rebounds. Dante Taylor gave Pitt some good minutes and looked solid at the offensive end. Overall, Pitt’s efficiency on offense was impressive in a slow paced game.

Still, a road win is always a good win, and Pitt has managed to go 5-4 on the road in the Big East this season. That means Pitt finishes the season with two home games. Not that Pitt should or wants to lose either, but they only need one to clinch a minimum of 4th place in the Big East and the double-bye for the Big East Tournament. Pitt could end tied at 4th with Louisville and Marquette but holds the tiebreaker over both for the double bye.





Gil Brown decided to show up…thats his mantro have a good game, have a bad game so i dont expect much from him in the next game.

Gibbs is a one trick pony like I always say, yes he is a good shooter but he cant create his own shot for the life of me…he also stuggles bringing the ball up the court…he needs to get better at both in the off season

Robinson had hi best game in about a 2 months very surprising, his form makes Gibbs’s look like JJ Reddick, it’s really ugly as a matter of fact so is G. Brown.

As for McGhee well I leave him alone…everyone knows where I stand on him.

Just my two cents!

Comment by jeremy 02.28.10 @ 2:19 pm

haha.
so your analysis of a team that just got its 5th road win in the BE and is about to finish in the top four is that all of the players suck, their shooting form is ugly, and that we should be surprised if any of them play well??
nice.

Comment by TJ 02.28.10 @ 2:48 pm

I agree with Chas about how poorly coached SJU is. I saw a lot of raw tealent on the court yesterday .. emphasize the word raw. But more importantly, I thought that any chance they had of catching up was nulled by the many ill-conceived shots they threw uo in the latter part of the game.

Speaking of raw talent, Taylor looks to have a clue now what he’s doing on defense … a definite improvement than even a month ago. I feel much more certain that he will pan out to be a real difference maker in the future, as I do with Woodall and Patterson. Note that all of the returning Pitt players seemed to have improved to various degrees than last year … something not so apparent for SJU.

Comment by wbb 02.28.10 @ 2:54 pm

First. Post. Epic. Fail.

This month’s themes: All our players have reached their peak and all our players suck.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 02.28.10 @ 2:56 pm

that’s right and epic fail by all you blind loyal fans that cant except critque of your Panthers. Um the best team in the country Kansas has flaws so I think Pitt has flaws too…But no McGhee is an all time great in you guys eyes that can play with someone like Cole Aldrich, the Morris Twins or Cousins, etc you get the picture…anyhow go craw back in your holes and continue your blind following of a granted, winning program but will never ever win a Championship with the caliber of players coming to Pitt… 🙂

Comment by jeremy 02.28.10 @ 3:05 pm

Are you fucking illiterate? Do you even read other people’s post on this blog? There’s an entire open analysis and criticism of the whole program. Most people are just not as knuckle-headed as you to make every post a hyperbolic rant on how bad everyone is- especially after the team wins on the road. Another epic fail.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 02.28.10 @ 3:21 pm

Jeremy, if you don’t like Pitt or feel they are are not worthy of your following, then go follow Kansas … in fact, PLEASE go follow Kansas

Comment by wbb 02.28.10 @ 3:31 pm

[…] Pitt Blather: A Game Never In Doubt […]


Thanks for the pity on St. John’s. It’s awful to watch, and they couldn’t slow down the Panthers whatsoever. We just hope they finally fire Norm Roberts. I think he’d be an ok coach at a lower level – decent eye for + salesman to supplemental talent.

But this team is lost, and they’ve got 9 kids graduating after next year.

Comment by pico 02.28.10 @ 3:35 pm

@SilverPanther in NYC..ctually not illerate at all…far from it actually…looks like you getting upset and flying into a blind rage over your panthers..As for your question, yes I read other people’s post on this blog, last time I check I’m free to write whatever I want too, right? So are you so get over yourself, if you don’t like what I post don’t read it…have a good day!

Comment by jeremy 02.28.10 @ 3:36 pm

@wbb…the same goes for you…If you dont like what I post then dont read it…and actually I dont follow kansas, I was merely making a comparison…

Comment by jeremy 02.28.10 @ 3:39 pm

anyone who says Gibbs is a one trick pony obviously doesn’t know baskrtball, so I think its safe to assume any of this guy’s posts are fairly uneducated in bball terms….write what you please, but do know we are all laughing…

Anyway, great year for a fairly inexperienced team…Should be fun for the rest of the year (and years to come)

Comment by bgPitt 02.28.10 @ 4:28 pm

“ctually not illerate at all…far from it actually”

well, you certainly made me laugh, if indeed you did that on purpose.

Comment by tsquare 02.28.10 @ 4:56 pm

Relatively new to the posts here guys, so please be gentle….As for the game, love what I am seeing out of our bench. Woodall has regained his confidence, Taylor finally looks like he has a clue on both ends of the floor and Gil Brown; well, he could be starting for a lot of teams. If I had one criticism about the game it would be that McGhee should be getting a few more touches. Also, (I guess this makes two criticisms) the rebounding issue looks to be finally catching up with us. As inconsistent as Gil Brown is scoring, I find it more frustrating he has so little involvement on the boards. We could really use a better effort from him on the glass. Overall though, very solid effort on the road.

Comment by WorkinOnMyPittness 02.28.10 @ 4:57 pm

Guys:

As I discovered after the ND loss, there’s no sense in arguing with Jeremy. He’s a legend in his own mind, so he’ll always be right. There is one of two things going on with him. Either he doesn’t understand the difference between constructive criticism – which most of us “blind loyal fans” practice here – and simply spewing vile, or he has some personal issue against, Pitt, Jamie, the athletic department or all of the above.

Therefore, he can’t understand how we can get excited about a team that was picked to finish 9th in the conference, miss the NCAAs and maybe even the NIT by far more creditialed experts than he who are all now singing Pitt’s praises. He also fails to see that most of us would be ecstatic over a Sweet 16 finish, because it would indicate that we MIGHT be on track for a run next year or the year after like the run we had last year.

My advice is to just ignore him. Maybe then he’ll go to a national board where he can commiserate with UCONN fans, WVU fans and other haters who envy the program Jamie has built.

Hail to PITT!

Comment by TampaT 02.28.10 @ 5:16 pm

Sorry for the typo on “credentialed experts”. You know what I meant though.

Comment by TampaT 02.28.10 @ 5:26 pm

@TampaT…thanks for the credit man, I love it!

@bgPitt…please expand on your reasoning that Gibbs is not a one trick poney? I clearly stated my reasons in prior post in the previous days…I would glady do so again if you want me too!

Comment by Jeremy 02.28.10 @ 5:40 pm

workingonmypittness,

couldn’t agree more…one criticism of mine is that it seems like we are often missing chances to dump the ball into mcghee and taylor. sometimes they have their man completely sealed and its as if we aren’t even looking into them. Both of those guys are works in progress, but we still need to get the ball inside a bit more.

Comment by TJ 02.28.10 @ 6:10 pm

Got distracted by the Gold medal hockey match. What a finish! Hats off to the USA. They fought to the end. And, Crosby proves again that he’s the man.

WorkinOnMyPittness (like that name): Good points. There’s been a lot of discussion about rebounding. It’s a fatal flaw that could cost us, which is why defensive effort and offensive efficiency are so critical to this team. As far as Brown, I too think he could be a better rebounder, because he’s so athletic and he doesn’t seem to be afraid to go to the rim. But, he’s exactly where is has been the past two years at 3.1/game. It might be all we’ll ever get from him, but let’s hope not.

As for getting it to McGhee, they have been looking for him a lot more and I think that will continue to grow as he gets better at catching it and adds to his shot repertoire. He’s proven that he’ll continue to improve in those areas this season and next.

Comment by TampaT 02.28.10 @ 6:22 pm

One thing to be realized by ths point is that even though Gilbert may be assigned the 4 position, he still playing the 3 especially on offense. He still plays out on the perimeter mostly and our rebounding will suffer on the defensive end because he is still too slight to box ot true talented and/or strong power forwards. Remember, the the 3 OT win vs WVU, Gilbert played 38 minutes and had only one rebound. He does create a mismatch if the opposing team is playing man, and a big frward does have to watch him on the perimeter.

BTW, all the above is just another testament just how good McGhee has done this year. Blair had some help with Biggs, Gray had Kendall, and Taft had Chevy.

Comment by wbb 02.28.10 @ 6:35 pm

Jeremy, do you play pick-up at Bellefield?

Comment by pittjd 03.01.10 @ 2:40 am

wbb:

See your point about Brown’s assignment to a degree, but Young played the same positions at the same height and averaged twice the number of boards both his Jr. and Sr. years. Granted he was heavier/stronger than Brown, but that’s not always it either. Look at Wanny @ 6/game, and Woodall is averaging 2.3/game with less minutes and 7″ less height.

It’s a lot about positioning and having a nose for the ball. Part of it can be worked on but part just comes naturally. Like I said since Gil has been so consistent at 3.1 per game the past 3 years, it might be the best we’ll ever get from him.

Agree with you on McGhee though, and he’ll get better. Taylor’s further development physically and mentally may be the long term key to solving those woes with him at the 4 (maybe) next year. Sure does seem like the light’s gone on for Taylor, finally. He’s looking much more natural out there. That’s good news for us.

Comment by TampaT 03.01.10 @ 8:10 am

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