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January 5, 2010

The Pitt-Cinci game was as evenly played and as close as I expected. Two teams that match-up very similarly and play a similar style. Strong defense, but not one that forces turnovers. Patient on offense. It showed. Pitt never led by more than 6 and Cinci briefly held an early 7 point lead. Most of the game, though, was played with a slight lead by Pitt.

Both teams had different players step up in each half. Pitt survived an early stumble because Nasir Robinson scored all 7 of his (and all but 2 of Pitt’s) points in the first 5 minutes. Ashton Gibbs scored 14 of his 19 points in the first half. In the second half it was Gibert Brown leading with 13 of his 17 and Dante Taylor getting all 7 of his points late.

It was just like that for Cinci. Yancy Gates and Lance Stephenson combined for 25 of the Bearcats 32 points in the first half, but were held to only 6 in the second half. Instead it was Deonta Vaughn going for 14 of his 17 points in the second half (his 3d straight game of scoring exactly 17 points).

Pitt was just a little better in this game. They were more efficient and patient on offense and they made slightly more plays on defense.

The Bearcats can now match the Panthers player-for-player when it comes to talent. But when the game was on the line Monday, No. 23 Pitt still had a little more moxie than the Bearcats, and walked away with a 74-71 victory before 8,699 fans at Fifth Third Arena.

The loss ended a four-game winning streak for UC (10-4 overall, 2-1 Big East). Pitt (13-2, 3-0) won its sixth straight game and ninth in its last 10. The Panthers have won four straight over UC and are 6-1 against the Bearcats since UC joined the Big East in 2005.

“It was a high-level basketball game and we came out on the wrong side due to our lack of ability to get the stops against Pittsburgh’s offense,” said UC coach Mick Cronin. “We played well enough to win on offense. We didn’t play well enough to win on defense. Pretty simple.”

I agree with this column on Cronin and Cinci. They have the pieces. I have them as one of the upper-half teams in the Big East this year. On a different night the result could have been different. I’m not complaining about Pitt only facing them once in the Big East conference schedule.

Coach Dixon credited his team with the win, but also echoed the sentiment that Cinci was close.

“I thought nobody lost this game, someone had to win it,” Dixon said. “This was a well played game and both teams had to make plays and both did throughout. The numbers would indicate it, high shooting percentages, good rebounding numbers, few turnovers.

“They are a good team and we are becoming a good team. We’re certainly improving.”

Unlike the Syracuse game, where Pitt rained down 3s, Pitt only attempted 7 of them. Granted there were something like 5 or 6 shots that turned out to be long 2s, but the offense really adjusted to how they were being played defensively. Whether it was Gilbert Brown and Ashton Gibbs taking shorter jumpers (stunning stat of the night, Gibbs only took — and made — one 3) after getting past a perimeter defender. More attacking the basket with Robinson, Wanamaker and Woodall when the opportunity was there. And even getting the ball inside to the bigs to finish strong — Taylor and McGhee each went 3-5. Offensively it was a very balanced game, and not depending on the 3s I think really had Cinci off-balance.

“They are not an easy team to defend,” Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin said. “(Brown) really broke our back. You can’t judge them since they got Jermaine Dixon and Brown back.”

The wins in the Big East after Dixon and Brown returned have started the run of how “Pitt is back” already. Arguably, though, the best compliment came during the game from Jay Bilas when speaking of how the team is doing so well with such a new cast said, “Pitt isn’t a team, they are a program.”

The continuity becomes a huge factor.

At the start of the season, the Panthers had seven new players, compared to four with experience. And so, while Pitt was needing zone defense to rescue itself against Duquesne and was slumbering through an uninspired loss to Indiana in the Jimmy V Classic, there was a surprising rush to judge these Panthers as inferior, unworthy of their legacy.

“We’ve been doubted this whole season,” Gibbs said. “We knew in that locker room what everybody can do. Everybody has confidence in each other, and I think it’s showing now.”

The Panthers are not as talented as many upper-echelon Big East teams, but with the exception of the DeJuan Blair/Sam Young years, that’s been the case for nearly a decade now. How many times did they play lottery-loaded UConn in the Big East final with teams composed of future D-Leaguers and noon ballers?

“You say it every year,” Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin said. “It’s like a broken record. But when you have continuity in your program … The best move they ever made was hiring Jamie. They’ve never had to rebuild. Once they won, they kept their winning ways.”

Some of that is simply what was seen. The two games before Syracuse and Cinci that got the most media attention with Pitt, were ESPN-aired Indiana and Texas games. Both losses, and very influential in the perception of Pitt.

That’s the nature of things. Georgetown loses at home to Old Dominion, Florida goes down at home to South Alabama and they are merely typical glitches and just one of those things that happen in the non-con. Not because of favorable biases towards those programs but because they were not national games few actually saw. So when in doubt fall back on the conventional wisdom — that is probably correct — that they were just a bad night for the home team and a really good night for the other team.

Pitt, though, suffered their losses on national TV for all to see, and therefore instead of being glitches for a young team they were treated as exhibits as to how far Pitt fell this year in talent and experience.

I repeat. There will be some more stumbles. Step backs and mistakes. Progression is not straight line. Enjoy right now.





Favroite quote from this year by JD:

“We made it clear: We decide who we are, not other people.”

Comment by Pauly P 01.05.10 @ 12:33 pm

Eight more wins and we are in the tourney. And one of those will be against Robert Morris so it’s really seven. I’m loving the outside shots falling this year. What a pleasant surprise!

Comment by Bobby 01.05.10 @ 12:54 pm

was gil brown’s dunk on sports centers top plays ? Im looking for a vid of it… so sick.

Comment by Snala the Panther 01.05.10 @ 12:54 pm

Have to say great post Chas! Totally agreed on the all the sports coverage and attitude of Pitt has completely changed. I was at the MSG game vs. Indiana and it was clear this team was adjusting and had to take a step back (esp. when two of the most important returning players were re-introduced to the line-up) before it could take a step forward and become the team they are now. It will definitely take more focus and of course, as you stated a few more stumbles, but this team is why I am a Pitt fan!

GO PANTHERS!!!

Comment by Caroline 01.05.10 @ 1:34 pm

An excellent column Chas. Your analysis and objectivity were a joy to read. The Bearcats are a scary team. They have quite a future if Yates continues to impove and Stephenson can stay out of trouble. I don’t mean FOUL trouble. The lad does have a dubious track record. As for the Panthers, it isn’t only Coach Dixon,but his capable assistants as well. Brown and Jermaine Dixon give the impression that they are approaching stardom. Taylor is beginning to bloom and Gibbs is a genuine PLAYER not just a shooter. This writer is not expecting a Big East hoop title this year, but Camelot is on the horizon. George from Columbus

Comment by rev. george mehaffey 01.05.10 @ 3:22 pm

I think Syracuse only dropping from 5 to 7 after a home loss is a pretty big compliment to Pitt too. Lets see how far UNC drops next week

Comment by Kevin 01.05.10 @ 4:17 pm

I like the 9-day break. You don’t want a team to peak to early. Pitt has a tendency to do so. The 9-day break will allow them to work on some things and let Brown and Taylor develop more chemistry with Wannamaker, Gibbs, and Dixon. That is obviously our crunch time line-up. Additionally, an extended break will be good for Gibbs and Wannamaker because they have played a lot of basketball and could use some rest. Pitt still has some tough games coming up and I’m sure they will lose a handful. The 3-0 start (2-0 on the road) is so important because it gives them some breathing room in case of a let down against a lower level team. It is a high probability that Pitt will lose a game they should probably win (see Providence last year). I think one of the things Jamie needs to do better is play for March. Maybe not this year, but in years past. He needed to keep some of the guys such as Blair and Fields fresher for a stretch run. Young was just a freak athlete who never seemed to get tired and was in great shape, but that wasn’t the case with the other two. Fields could have used a couple of 25 minute nights last season. Blair got them on his own with foul trouble. Hopefully this team uses the break to get better. I want to see this team playing it’s best basketball late in the year. Gibbs especially needs to stay fresh because he is a jump shooter. Fatigue is deadly for jump shooters. Jamie knows what he is doing and this is a young team so hopefully fatigue isn’t an issue.

Comment by Omar 01.05.10 @ 4:34 pm

In the same light, I’m having difficulty adjusting my own expectations of Pitt bb this year. Juist how good can this team be, in a year where they were picked NINTH in the Big East? Are they a solid Top 20 team? A mid-teen team? A Top 10 team?

At the start of the season, I was hoping for continual improvement, and an outside shot at an NCAA bid. Now though, I’m getting greedy and want a deep run in the BE Tourney, and a high single-digit seeding!

Comment by Lou 01.05.10 @ 4:42 pm

Comment by steve 01.05.10 @ 4:56 pm

Only video I can find of the Brown dunk:

link to youtube.com

Didn’t see it live and this video is shaky at best. Hard to judge.

Comment by Dave in Orlando 01.05.10 @ 5:10 pm

maybe an omen … Sleepy Floyd was the star of the 82 tean that came a Mike Jordan jumper away from an NCAA championship.

But seriously, since my expectations are much lower, I am in a way enjoying this team better than last year’s team which I had hopes for the Final 4. While I still hate to see Pitt lose any game, I doubt that any BE or possible NCAA losses will feel as badly as last year.

Comment by wbb 01.05.10 @ 5:45 pm

Great column Chas…I am not as concerned with the irregular play of Robinson and Wannamaker as Pitt has overcome it so far. What I like is that both challange the other team with penetration, better than Pitt has had for a long time. It has defenses back on their heels and exhausted late in the game. If they ever cut out the turnovers, the sky is the limit for both.

Comment by Dan 72 01.05.10 @ 6:11 pm

Comment by wbb 01.05.10 @ 6:40 pm

does anyone have video of that gilbert dunk?

Comment by Shen 01.05.10 @ 7:39 pm

Comment by Pauly P 01.05.10 @ 8:34 pm

thanks pauly…. what a sick dunk

Comment by snala the panther 01.05.10 @ 9:51 pm

great article on the CBS Sports college basketball front page….Jamie Dixon is the man

link to cbssports.com

bgPitt

Comment by bgPitt 01.05.10 @ 10:46 pm

Jamie Dixon is getting alot of props and for good reason. First , he is a great Pittsburgh guy. He seems to love the city and represents it very well. Second, he gets the most out of what talent he has. No questioning this. His teams always play hard and seem to play whatever style they need to , to be competitive. Here is my only concern and why I wont list him as a top 5 college coach, yet. Remember, this is a team that was picked to finish I believe 10th in the big east. There is a reason he is getting so much credit for the fast start this season. His players arent as talented as other teams. Yes, it was a huge upset to beat Syracuse on the road and the reason is the talent difference. My point is you can give him all the credit in the world for having his players play above their heads and play superior team basketball to overcome some talent issues, but how bout we take the next step and recruit some more talented players. A major portion of coaching college hoops is being able to recruit. The top coaches are able to do this year in and year out, regardless of who they lose. Imagine , the team/program we would have if we took Coach Dixon’s team building skills, and team improving skills and mixed it with some top level talent. Dont get me wrong, some coaches can recruit and thats it (see Boeheim), but the great ones can do both.

Comment by Z-boy 01.06.10 @ 9:07 am

the recruiting will happen… programs don’t grow overnight… and pitt has steadily grown. With the expousre Pitt has been getting the the past decade, kids now want to come and play hoops here.

We got our first mcdonalds all American, Jamie’s last class was in the top 25 for recruiting classes.. and the next guys comming in.. non of them are rated below a 92.

Comment by Snala the Panther 01.06.10 @ 9:32 am

The “X-factor” is answering the question of can you get a really big time recruit, or more so, a group of them to play unselfish team basketball. many one-and-done types are only going to be interested in their own stats and may be unwilling to dive for loose balls and play hard-nosed defense. I am not sure the recruiting improvement you would like would be fully compatible with Jamie Dixon’s coaching philosophy. You could wind up with more talented players and produce equal of lesser results due to player attitudes.

Comment by pitt1972 01.06.10 @ 9:38 am

i just don’t think pitt is lacking talent. that was the case before we had all of our players. however, with dixon and brown i just don’t see a team that doesn’t have players. there might be a few spots where you want more (the 4), but other than that i think pitt has big east level talent. gibbs would play on any team (he is averaging 17 a game), dixon is a stud on defense, wanny might not be as important as he is to our team but he would play big minutes on any team in the conference, and mcgee/taylor is an above average pair at center. gilbert brown showed on monday what type of player he can be if he wants it. i wouldn’t expect that from him every night, but if he is half as good, then that is a huge upgrade for this team. then you have robinson and woodall who both bring something to the table. that isn’t lacking talent. it just isn’t as good as last year’s talent. blair and young were both wooden all-americans. none of the guys on this team are that good, but not too many players in the whole country are that good.

Comment by Omar 01.06.10 @ 9:51 am

Let me see if I understand this discussion about talent or lack thereof. Some ome just posted an article notes that Pitt has the best overall record and best BE record since 2001, and the argument is being made that we have done this without great talent? Next time I go to the Pete, I will have to be more observant of the smoke and mirrors that must be located behind the Pitt bench.

Comment by BigGuy 01.06.10 @ 10:11 am

There is only one thing that keeps JD out of the elite coaches circle at this point and that is a Final Four appearance…I have no doubt we will see JD and our Panthers in a Final Four at some point in the next few years.

Comment by HbgFrank 01.06.10 @ 12:20 pm

Pitt doesn’t necessarily lack talent; it lacks NBA style talent like many of the big programs. It is not much different than much of the past decade, expcept that Pitt is more inexperienced than any of the decade

Comment by wbb 01.06.10 @ 1:26 pm

NBA style talent is key and you need it to win a National Championship. The problem with most programs that aren’t Kansas, UNC, Michigan State, Texas, and UCONN is that they leave and you have no continuity. The aforementioned teams can grab new players that will be able to play right away, but a top-5 to top-15 program isn’t going to be able to recruit like that every single year unless they cheat (see Memphis and Mr. Calipari). That leaves your team with big holes after the NBA talent undoubtedly leaves early. I like the way Pitt has gone about attacking this problem. They have mostly recruited 4-year players and put the full-court press on one or two elite players per year. That way if they don’t get the stud, who will certainly drag out the recruiting process, they aren’t always left with plan C or D recruits. If they do get the NBA level talent, then they will make a run for the championship. Smart recruiting and it is paying off. Additionally, Pitt isn’t afraid to ask a plan-b or c player to look elsewhere if they need the scholarship. Unfortunate, but this is the cost of being a top-10 program.

Comment by Omar 01.06.10 @ 4:01 pm

Love Jamie and love his coaching style…and he is certainly the cream of the new crop of coaches with similar tenures/ages He has done amazing things with inferior talent (coaching them up to NBA talent and playing sound scheme/fundamentals). His success has built an amazing brand of basketball at Pitt.

All he needs now is a Final Four and a NC to cement it.

Last year was our Final Four… sh*t happens..

The FF and NC will come soon because if you keep kncoking on greatnesses door, you’ll eventually push through.

I’m still convinced that Jamie will get his FF & NC with a team that noone exepected. Not implying this year is that team, but I just have a feeling they will win in a year that they fly under the radar all year and make a run.

Comment by Pauly P 01.06.10 @ 7:07 pm

People keep saying Pitt has inferior talent. It is insulting to the players who have played so hard for their coach and school. I remember Ben Howland took offense when Jim Calhoun said something along the lines of Pitt is the best team in the Big East, but not the most talented. He responded that you cannot win without talent. The fact is that Pitt has had 4 players drafted into the NBA in the past 8 years. 3 of them are in the league now, with two of them actually playing well. A handful of kids are playing professionally overseas. I know that Chevy Troutman has had success and Antonio Graves to some degree as well. Pitt has had talent. They haven’t had first pick in the draft talent, but they have had very, very good players. This team with Brown and Dixon is not lacking talent. They lack a little bit of size at the 4, but everywhere else there is above average talent. They have speed, quickness, length, shooting ability, strength, and, most importantly, the right attitude. Who wouldn’t want to coach this group? No egos. No demands for shots or playing time. Just a team that wants to win and prove people wrong. You can say they are lacking talent, but that doesen’t make it true. You don’t play undermanned against Texas and give them a game, beat Syracuse and Cincinnati on the road without talent. I don’t think this team is winning a championship, but they definitely have enough talent to win a game or two in the NCAA tourney. Heck, no one thought Villanova was good enough to get to the Final 4 in January of 2009. They weren’t the most talented team in the Big East. In fact, I would argue that Pitt was more talented than that team. But they played hard, strong defense, hit their free throws, made some threes, and kept fighting and ended in the final 4.

Comment by omar 01.06.10 @ 8:44 pm

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