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January 2, 2010

Snap Player Thoughts, Post-Cuse

Filed under: Basketball,Players — Chas @ 11:44 pm

Since I have refused to let myself get too down after the losses and some disturbing wins, I am not letting myself get too high after a win like this.*

Here’s an attempt to look at the good and bad of the game from an individual player viewpoint.

Ashton Gibbs has willingly shouldered the load. He is one of the three leaders that are on this team. He is the guy the team looks to on offense. He is not a point guard, but he is the leader on the court and knowswhat Coach Dixon wants done. He was on with his 3s today, but he also was the effort guy on defense. Not letting Syracuse get things on the perimeter. Tracking the ball on shots to position for rebounds (8). The scariest thing for Pitt will be games where his shot isn’t there.

Jermaine Dixon played 36 minutes and had his best game. On offense he scored 21 points. 4 assists and only 2 turnovers. He helped turn things in Pitt’s favor when he started attacking the basket. He shredded Syracuse’s zone.  But he was even better on defense. He helped shut down the Orange on the perimeter. Pitt had 7 steals and Dixon had 5 of them. As a senior he would be looked upon as a leader, but he has embraced it. Effort first, especially on defense has been significant as he has been able to play and practice with the team. There is no coincidence that Pitt’s defense has helped to pick up with his return. Both by his game and showing the other kids that is how you get the playing time.

I have a working theory that Brad Wanamaker may be the most divisive player for Pitt fans since Carl Krauser. Wanamaker and Gibbs have made the biggest jump from last year to this. Yet, Wanamaker is almost despised in comments here and on message boards at times. He led the team with 6 assists, grabbed 5 boards and was 10-14 at the free throw line because he and Jermaine Dixon were the most aggressive attacking the zone. Yet Wanamaker also had 4 turnovers and only managed to go 1-7 shooting. Good and bad. Wanamaker, though, is an integral part of the team and along with Gibbs and Dixon a definite leader on the team. You can see the other players look to him as well. His game will never be refined, but he gets results more often than not.

Against probably the best front court Pitt has faced since Texas, Dante Taylor had a solid and effective game. 10 points and 8 rebounds with 1 block and 1 steal. While the stat line hardly seems like much, Taylor did more than hold his own out there. His defense was excellent. He held position well, and frustrated Onuaku and Jackson. Whether it was raising his game to the competition as can happen, or really starting to get what he is supposed to do. Taylor played 27 minutes because he earned the minutes.

It is still a little hard to fairly evaluate how Gilbert Brown is doing. He definitely provided a spark when he came into the game in the first half. Brown helped set a tone on defense, but was not particularly great at actually executing. Getting in quick foul trouble. In only 17 minutes, he picked up 4 fouls. He had 2 assists but 3 turnovers to go with 3 boards and 6 points.

Onuaku has quietly been one of the best big men in the Big East the last couple of years. Gary McGhee did not fare well against him. McGhee’s stat line was almost stunning. 2 points (going 2-2 on FTs but 0-1 on FGs), 0 rebounds and only 1 foul in 15 minutes. He had no turnovers, mainly because he really never got the ball. He struggled to be open against the 2-3 zone and let Onuaku back him down a lot. The good was that he did not hang his head in the game. One of the big moments about how hard Pitt wanted that game was when he and Nasir Robinsonson were on the floor around a still standing Orange player diving after a loose ball barely 4 minutes into the second half.

If Pitt wasn’t so offensively challenged this season maybe Nasir Robinson would be looked at in a kinder light. A gritty defensive role player that works hard and does what he can to help the team win. Unfortunately, Pitt needs all the points it can get, and Robinson leaves his more than his share behind. Even in a game where he only had 3 attempts, the inexplicable missed lay-ups and not even close FT attempts stand out more than his 7 rebounds and frustrating the bigger, wider Jackson most of the game.

Chase Adams has not been the defensive pest expected. His offensive confidence is lacking. As such, Coach Dixon seems to have little confidence in Adams as he only played 3 minutes.

Seven minutes into the game I had confirmation that the “Big East Network” analyst for the game, Mike Kelley, had not seen a Pitt game all year. Upon Travon Woodall being inserted into the game, he commented, “Woodall has had a nice year.” I hate to rip the redshirt freshman, but he has not had a “nice year.” His minutes continue to fall — only 18 minutes today. Only 2 assists but 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. He looked visibly frustrated out there and the body language when he struggled in the first half (3 turnovers and 0-2 shooting in 9 minutes) was surprising and disappointing. He has not worked out well running the point as the competition has improved. I have not seen consistency in court vision or crisp passing.

*As long you think running around in the backyard in 19 degree temperatures without a coat, whooping it up and screaming “F**k, yeah!” is keeping it cool.





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Interesting comments on Gibbs, Wannamaker & Woodall. Note some of the differences:

While Gibbs may not be the athlete the other two are and especially can’t match Woodall’s quickness, he seems to almost always play under controland within his limitations. Sure there may be nights when he misses a lot of shots, but shooters need to shoot. He rarely seems to get himself into situations where he gets trapped and doesnot turn the ball over like the other two,and is improving defensively.

Wannamaker id frustrating because while he has talent is often out of control, and seems to think he can do more than he can or should. However, he is playing with more control this year and has been the team’s 2nd best player this year. He also makes some pretty good plays not shown on the stat sheet.

Woodall has taken over for Wanamaker for unncessary and careless turnovers, and reminds me of Wannamaker in his freshman year. I think he certainly is athletic and can be a pretty good shooter, but I believe he still has to realize that many of his opponents on this level are as quick as he is. I have little doubt that he’ll get … just hope it is sooner than later.

Comment by wbb 01.03.10 @ 8:19 am

By the way, 19 assists on 23 FGs tells you the effective way of attacking the zone, especially when you don’t have a dominating frontcourt who can put back missed shots.

Comment by wbb 01.03.10 @ 8:27 am

Just another game that Jamie proves he is one of the best X&O coaches in college ball.

Comment by joel 01.03.10 @ 11:57 am

And just another game to show how overrated Boeheim typically is. I love how his and his players’ comments all mentioned how this was the first team to “take it to us.” That’s why Dixon owns Boeheim, more so than Xs and Os.

Comment by jason 01.03.10 @ 12:40 pm

Nasir reminds me of what Jaron Brown used to do for Pitt…not pretty but somehow effective. And Brad “The Turnover Machine” is getting better.

I for one am just freakin’ pumped that Pitt hoops has finally made it to the point that this year is considered a DOWN year. 10 years ago we would have all been saying this team having Pitt on an upswing and how they can compete with anyone (not necessarily win).

I want to see the Zoo back in full force after their pathetic showing in the pre-season!!! I’m personally disgusted by the students lack of support for this year’s team.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by bigslacker 01.03.10 @ 12:43 pm

I really like Nasir as a 10-15 minute/game guy, more at the 3 position than 4, of course. People forget how many minutes he got last year in big time situations, and it showed last night when he kept his cool throughout. He is erratic on finishing, but he does tend to have a calming effect on the team and does the non-stat stuff that coaches love (screens, blocking out, crisp passes, unselfish hustle).

Jaron Brown is my favorite player from the past decade for many of the same reasons. Big shoes for Nasir to fill. No question, Jaron had more of an offensive game. Jaron was a “tweener” and an absolute nightmare of matchup for many teams. He had a tremendous basketball IQ, and always made plays at end of games to seal victories.

Plus– JB was a UCONN killer…loved that.

Comment by Pauly P 01.03.10 @ 12:56 pm

Pauly, you and I share the favorite Pitt bb player of the decade. I want to add just what a clutch player he was, and how well he did on defense in one on one match-ups, most notably vs Carmelo Anthony.

Another favorite was Chevy … I’m serious … you could tell even in pre-game warm-ups by the looks on their faces just how much these two guys enjoyed being out there on the court.

Comment by wbb 01.03.10 @ 1:27 pm

Just watched the replay of the 77 Sugar Bowl. What a team. Dorsett still fast.

Comment by gc 01.03.10 @ 2:07 pm

I agree with bigslackers post; the Zoo has been very lack luster this year (I have been to all but 1 home game). They came alive when needed in the first game against Wichita State, but have been sleep-walking the rest of the games. I understand a majority of the students go home for holiday breaks, but a lot of games were played in between. Hope they step it up for the Big East games.

Comment by UPDave 01.03.10 @ 3:38 pm

re: Woodall, his hustle and block of Jardine’s layup when the score was 45-42 can’t be overlooked. Wasn’t having a good day, TOwise, but that block was HUGE and he hit a 3 in the 2nd half.

Comment by TdoubleT 01.03.10 @ 3:56 pm

bigslacker, comparing Nasir to Jaron is an insult to Jaron (he took care of the ball, could handle it (backed up at PG some),and finished, in addition to being a better defender). If you go back and watch the game, in the first half, when McGhee and Robinson were in together it seemed like pitt was outscored by about 17 pts. but when Brown and Taylor were in they seemed to outscore Cuse by about 14. The only thing I didn’t like about the game was that it seemed McGhee and robinson were in too long at times, and should only be used to give guys a rest. But I do love that both guys hustle, and give maximum effort. Although I realize Brown was in foul trouble, I hope Dixon realizes what his best lineup is.

Tdoublet I agree, Woodall’s block was one of the plays of the game. Had Jardine finished that, the roof was going to explode of the dome.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 01.03.10 @ 6:36 pm

RANDOM THOUGHTS…if you havent noticed, this team is and will be a perimeter oriented team, similar to what villanova and marquette have put on the floor in years past….we have some good depth at the 1,2,3 positions and a great shooter in Gibbs, this is the shooter pitt has lacked for a while. the ability to shoot the 3 is important in college hoops and our big men just have to help…i also like our size on the perimeter..and the commitment for the guards to rebound, eliminate turnovers and this team should be in every game they play…taylor will learn to rebound and use his quickness over the bigger bodies in the league…it is not size that leads to rebounding it is positioning and desire. this team lost to indiana last month, however would never lose to them now with dixon and brown in the lineup….the problem for most pitt fans is this team has a completely different makeup then years past….but does not mean this team cannot be effective….

Comment by drgags 01.03.10 @ 8:32 pm

Lets be patient with Nas. First yr. starting. Next two yrs. look promising to me.

Comment by alcofan 01.03.10 @ 8:46 pm

chas, you’re on point with your assessment. TM

Comment by johnnyrocket 01.04.10 @ 12:39 am

Unreal win. Unfortunately, didn’t get to see it live with all the post New Years stuff going on. What a game to build upon. Hail to Pitt.

Comment by Cool Hand Nuke 01.04.10 @ 1:58 am

OntarioLett….no comparison here, just saying he reminds me of Jaron. JB was on a completely different level. I wish Nasir could get there.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by bigslacker 01.04.10 @ 11:48 am

I am so glad that there are some intelligent fans out there and know how GREAT Jaron Brown really was. I remember having season tickets and the year after Brandin graduated, Krauser was the point guard and they were times where the Panther would be up 10 and the next thing you know a team would score 6-8 points and it looked bad. Well I can remember when the Panthers would inbound the ball and whoever inbounded it would give it to Krauser and Jaron said, I don’t think so. Give me the ball and let me run this set. And EVERYTIME, they would score. Jaron Brown is my all-time favorite Panther, with Vonteego Cummings at #2.

Anyway, I see a good bit of that in Nasir. Let’s just give him time. He may never be as good as Jaron, but then again, who will ever be as good as him… honestly.

Comment by pantherbball247 01.04.10 @ 12:16 pm

Dixon may be more of a difference maker than some of us realized. I don’t expect him to shoot like that all the time, but his defense was outstanding, and others followed his lead in attacking the zone on the other end. This was by far the best defensive effort of the season. The guards have been a relative strength compared to the front court this year, but on offense they’ve been too passive on the perimeter until recently. This is very encouraging going forward.

Props to Taylor too for finally showing signs of why he was so highly tauted a recruit. Maybe JD or coaches fed him some bulletin board material from Boheim dogging McD’s All Americans.

Comment by Ghost of Horn Man 01.04.10 @ 12:42 pm

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