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October 6, 2009

Beating Huskies

Filed under: Big East,Coaches,Conference,Football — Chas @ 1:30 pm

UConn has had a bye week and before that, a 1-AA game with Rhode Island. In other words, they have had time to rest and prepare.

Despite the time to get well, they do have some key injuries. Zach Frazer was the starting QB, but he is still out. Cory Endres — a Washington, PA native that might get mentioned here or there — has seen plenty of action this season. He did not get named the official starter for the game until yesterday. UConn coach Randy Edsall is notorious for his Belichekian approach to sharing info on his team. So, watch for Frazer to show up at some point since other reports say he might be ready for the game.

The real injury issues for UConn is at linebacker. Scott Lutrus is their best linebacker and he is likely out as he continues to try and come back from a stinger. Another linebacker — not a starter — Kijuan Dabney had season ending shoulder surgery. They’re a little thin at linebacker spot.

The lack of depth at linebacker means they need more production right up front from the D-line. Especially from defensive end Lindsey Witten.

On the Pitt injury side, it’s a big one in special teams as kick returner (and some punts) Cameron Saddler is out with an ankle sprain. That’s been a big thing for the offense. Saddler’s returns have been giving Pitt great field position. That means Antwuan Reed and Aundre Wright will get shots.  Elijah Fields’ ankle sprain is not as bad, so he should play. I expect Jared Holley to see more action, though, to spell him.

The theme from the Pitt side is that this should be a significant challenge for the offense.

“So, from an offensive standpoint, this will be by far, and I use the word far, our biggest offensive challenge of the year. These guys are playing extremely well. They’ve got talent. They’re well-coached. We’re going to have to play our best game on offense; both run and pass from an execution standpoint.”

Connecticut’s defensive numbers are impressive as they are rank third in the Big East Conference in scoring defense (15 ppg), first in total defense (232.2 ypg), first in rushing defense (68 ypg) and second in pass defense (164.2 ypg).

Also, linebacker Lawrence Wilson is second in the conference in tackles (10.5 per game), defensive end Lindsey Witten leads the conference in sacks (8) and is second in tackles for losses (4.5) and cornerback Robert McClain leads the conference with three interceptions.

Wannstedt said that the Huskies are similar to the Panthers in that their defense is designed to stop the run while also not allowing the big passing plays.

One difference between the two is that while Connecticut also plays a 4-3 up front, it plays a little more zone coverage in the secondary than the Panthers do.

Looking over the chat by Courant’s beat writer, his observations suggest a mirror image defense. A strong D-line that masks a shakier secondary. So, the goal of their defense to control the pass is get pressure on Stull. Make him move in the pocket and keep him from setting his feet.

Something that makes sense. It dates back to last year, that when Stull did not have set feet and being able to step into the throw his accuracy and velocity suffered greatly.

Of course, the counter-argument is that Stull is playing much better and with more confidence.

“Bill is playing extremely well right now,” coach Dave Wannstedt said. “If he was a freshman or a sophomore, I would probably have a concern right now — a young kid having some success. But he’s been here five years. He’s truly experienced both sides of the street.”

Stull has competed 66.4 percent of his passes (77 for 116) for 988 yards with 11 touchdowns and one interception this season. He already has thrown as many touchdowns this year as the rest of his previous three years combined.

He’s even saying the right things.

“It’s great to have all that stuff,” he said. “It’s a tribute to my teammates.”

Wannstedt credits Stull’s improvement to an offensive system that eliminates “overthinking” and the motivation provided by Sunseri’s push for playing time.

“I think the competition … has created a sense of urgency with Billy,” Wannstedt said. “He wants to keep the starting job. He knows if he goes out and he plays poorly and turns it over, he’s not going to start. That’s a great motivation.”

Lots of credit to the offense and the way it is being run by OC Frank Cignetti. Not just taking shots downfield, but using the playmakers as more than decoys.

“We talk about Billy Stull growing up as a player and as a man,” Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt said. “But Dorin’s done the same thing. You have to give him a lot of credit.”

Baldwin has one less reception than Dickerson, but he is averaging 22.8 yards per reception and has caught a touchdown pass of more than 70 yards in each of the past two games.

Dickerson, who had two touchdowns against Louisville, said the Panthers’ passing game is in great hands with Stull.

“We’re just getting started, we definitely have a lot more of [the passing game] to show,” Dickerson said. “It has been great to see our offense get tougher to defend every week.”

And fun to watch.

As a side note to Dickerson, this puts that drop in the NC State game in the realm of quite excusable.

One of the knocks on Dickerson, fair or not, was that he was a little “soft” but he played this game with a broken nose and chipped tooth after the hit he took last week in the endzone trying to make a play to tie the game.

What makes moments where a player actually does the big play despite the pain spectacular is the fact that it rarely happens. I, for one, am not going to say he should have made the play when something like that happens.





a really good early synopsis of the game. It appears that with both defenses mirroring each other, we may have the advantage that we would appear to have a better passing attack since they may be using an inexperienced QB plus we probably have more and better playmakers. They seem to be able to keep games close even without an explosive offense, and I assume that they would need to win the turnover battle in order to win.

Glad that Brown isn’t around anymore but I’m sure they have a couple very able runners.

Comment by wbb 10.06.09 @ 3:54 pm

as a follow-up to Chas’ post as well as mine, it appears that Pitt;s task may be a bit harder in that (1) LB Lutrus has been cleared to play and (2) Endres has started the past 2 games including the win at Baylor. While I still believe Pitt to be the favorite, I doubt it will be easy — probably low scoring dogfight (but of course, I thought about the same thing for the NC State game)

Comment by wbb 10.06.09 @ 5:28 pm

I’m never predicting a low scoring anything for Pitt for the rest of this season.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.06.09 @ 6:30 pm

Pitt should not have to win a dogfight against UConn at home. We should simply outclass this team on both sides of the ball…less than a double digit win would be upsetting.

Comment by Hollywood 10.06.09 @ 7:29 pm

personally, I would not be upset with a 21 -13 win

Comment by wbb 10.06.09 @ 8:20 pm

I should add though that I would love a dominating win where the offense maintains its edge while the defense looks like what we exected from them at the beginning

Comment by wbb 10.06.09 @ 8:24 pm

Dittos on the post just above. It would be so nice to win one of those before PITT gets into the meatgrinder part of the schedule. On the other hand, Buddy has them ready for the meatgrinder and if it starts this weekend, so be it! Last week I expected a closer game but PITT took it to a higher level. Hopefully they can do that again. It seems like PITT is right on the cusp of breaking out to the upside and, combined with really good play, it won’t take much of a breakut to the upside to make a lot of fans happy. There are no easy games the rest of the way but if PITT keeps its collective nose to the grindstone and does not suffer any further bad injuries to key players, PITT should have a great season. Relaxing games seem to breed laziness, so maybe its OK if they don;t have anymore.
The Big East and ND games will determine how far this team goes. NC State has not ruined our season. But it may have sent a message at a critical time telling the PITT team it needs to hike it up a notch. Taking vacation on certain plays to rest a bit hurts the team. There is no time to relax now. Just keep working harder than ever and pounding it every play like Buddy and the FB coaches taught you, and the best part of PITT’s season has just begun.

Comment by IronManEE68 10.06.09 @ 9:19 pm

i want to pound the sh*t out of uconn.

Comment by snala the panther 10.06.09 @ 11:35 pm

I agree that Stull has looked better this year and with his weapons maybe able to keep the offense moving. However he still has the some of the same flaws – at N.C. State on 2nd down at the goal line the weak, choked pass to Dickerson, his inability to compensate for his arm weakness, that is most apparent when through quick outs, not recognizing the defensive back coming up. It is easier for him to throw over the middle because his velocity is meager. If I were the coaches I would limit any vertical passes. Quick slants and 15 yards over the middle. The hitch and go with Baldwin will be there and when he throws with all he has it can get there. What Stull lacks at QB is a strong arm, without so much motion, and more wrist. That said if both the coaches and he recognize this and limit plays requiring arm strength he can be functional.

Comment by pitt73 10.07.09 @ 6:34 am

Bad news….Lutrus is cleared to play. Let’s hope our offense comes to play as well as our defense!
link to theday.com

Hail yo Pitt!

Comment by Pitt Fan 10.07.09 @ 7:16 am

Bad news….Lutrus is cleared to play. Let’s hope our offense comes to play as well as our defense!
link to theday.com

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Pitt Fan 10.07.09 @ 7:17 am

Mike Vick saw the title of this blog post and got very excited.

(Sorry, had to do it.)

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.07.09 @ 7:40 am

Jimbo Jr – good one

off topic but since I just noticed it on ESPN2 crawl on the bottom of the screen, I will share — DeJuan Blair had 16 pts and 19 reb in Spurs’ preseason game last night (don’t even know who they played)

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 7:54 am

Good for DeJuan! I think this is one of these games that we should win. When you consider our skilled position guys are much better than what Uconn has, and also our offensive line is experience as well. If our defense plays like it did second half at Louisville, then we my even win big.

Comment by Lou 10.07.09 @ 8:34 am

is uconn’s qb mobile ?

Comment by Snala the Panther 10.07.09 @ 11:01 am

Note that Pittsburgh has been named ‘Best Sports City’ for 2009 by Sports Illustrated, which does an 8-page feature about the Burgh … see the excerpt from K Gorman’s Trib article today:

The magazine, which hits newsstands later this week, includes features on former players opining on how to fix the Pirates, Penguins captain Sidney Crosby’s thoughts on Mario Lemieux and former Pitt star Hugh Green’s insight on the Backyard Brawl. Pitt football coach Dave Wannstedt also explains why sporting success resonates in his hometown.

“Whether it’s the CEO of U.S. Steel or the guy running the body shop on the other side of the street,” Wannstedt said in a statement, “Pittsburgh’s people share a common bond with their sports teams.”

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 12:13 pm

Looks like Sam Young got a lot of minutes in his preseason debut…

link to cbssports.com

Comment by Pauly P 10.07.09 @ 1:57 pm

Interesting take…
link to 48minutesofhell.com

Comment by Pauly P 10.07.09 @ 2:01 pm

ESPN has a nice piece on McKillop as a rookie surprise.

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Patric 10.07.09 @ 3:54 pm

Pauly, however note that Sam was 4 for 12 from the field and a pathetic 1 for 7 from the line

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 4:25 pm

It amazes me that although we get beat by so called inferior talent that individuals on this site still believe we have a stable of very good or great athletes. Is it possible that a lot of people in this area overrate our talent pool. Is Berry, Dickerson, Baldwin, really elite athletes, or are they hyped well beyond their playing ability. Bostick is a great example of hype! It was clear to anyone with a decent eye for talent that this young man had some glaring weaknesses, but many on this site refuse to see the light. Instead, many drank the cool-aide and insisted that his throwing mechanics could be fixed. Well, three years later his mechanics are the same, and he should be headed to a D-II program if he ever wants to play. So either Wanny can’t coach or the talent is overrated… what is it? Lastly, Uconn has hurt us in the past, so we better bring our A game, or we’ll be crying we were upset again, or are we?

Comment by ltl49 10.07.09 @ 5:11 pm

49, we don’t play in the SEC. And I think if we happened to bring our “A game” there we’d be competitive.

I do agree with you about Berry. For whatever reason he’s out of sync.

But Lewis/Graham/Dickerson/Hynoski/Byham/Baldwin is a pretty fair assemblage of above average talent, wouldn’t you say?

Comment by steve 10.07.09 @ 5:29 pm

Our talent was certainly better than Bowling Green, Oregon State and NC State, so let’s do the math

HTscriptP

Comment by Cool Hand Nuke 10.07.09 @ 5:29 pm

Oh forgot to add, Cignetti is making a big difference. Betcha CAL would love to have him back, scoring 6 points over their last 2 games…

Comment by steve 10.07.09 @ 5:34 pm

pitt is loaded with athletes…Romeus and Sheard should be on that list…as well as Mick Williams, the guy can slam the ball in hoops at his weight and only like 5’10” or 11″. And questioning that Baldwin is really an elite athlete is one of the strangest comments I’ve ever seen on this site. It makes me wonder if you have ever seen the kid. He is enormous yet can still flat out run people on go routes, the kids a freak. I also think Saddler is a pretty spectacular athlete considering what he was doing in the return game after blowing out an ACL. There are numerous others that aren’t even mentioned but would be if we took the time to do so.

Comment by OntarioLett'sGoPitt 10.07.09 @ 5:57 pm

Based on perceived talent (recruting ratings):

– Iowa had no business beating PSU 7 of 8 years
– Cincy has no business winning as much as it does
– Oklahoma has no business losing as much as it does in just about every big game away from Norman
– USC has no business in losing to an unranked team just about every year
– ND should be way above its level of play in the ast few years
– OSU should also be above its level of play, especially when playing any good team outside of the B11

How far do you people want me to take this? … I can go further!

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 6:19 pm

What is the X factor in all of those above cases? Good to great coaching. Brian Kelly in particular.

Comment by Hollywood 10.07.09 @ 6:37 pm

a few factors to be considered:

1) the better talent doesn’t always win the gane … “this is why we play the game”
2) losing a few times to inferior talent isn’t just a Pitt phenomena
3) Brian Kelly is quoted as saying that it not necessarily the best recruits, it’s finding the right players for your system. We also saw this with RichRod at WVU …his classes were never highly rated, but he knew waht to look for. Also, while these guys are to be praised for their overachievement, just remember that sometimes things just seems to work out … note that Tony Pike was 4th team QB going into last year, and Pat White was 3rd team going into his freshman year … the only reason these guys got their chance was because of injuries.

Remember, our best coaching hire possibly ever at Pitt was due to Skip Prosser, who unfortunately died a couple of years later, rejecting our offer … though you could also make a case for the original hiring of Johhny Majors as the best hire …. (but you will have to ask Beano about how good of a hire Jock Sutherland was.)

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 7:06 pm

Bitch Rich’s scheme/vision allowed for that a low budget school to compete at the highest level. His vision and scheme attracted Pat White. Let’s not forget that Pat White was the most prolific QB in WVU and BE History. Bitch Rich’s scheme/vision allowed for that to happen. Plus, he delivered in the BCS games against the so called “high budget” schools. And yes, he laid a huge terd against us. And yes, he would have likely won the NC game against a very overrated LSU. And yes, shoulda coulda woulda…

The same is happening with Brian Kelly and Tony Pike….

My point is– coaching and QB…that will take us to the proverbial “next level”….

Comment by Pauly P 10.07.09 @ 7:51 pm

note that WVU would have beaten OSU, not LSU (even a surer bet.) I don’t disagree about your coaching angle, but part of my previous point are that overachievers are less prevealnet than uderachievers … and even the most accomplished of coaches (Stoops, Tressel, Carroll) have their issues even with superior talent

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 8:00 pm

I think it was Missouri and WVU slated #1 & #2 that year, and both laid terds the final week….hench, tOSU and LSU moved up, not sure who WVU would’ve played if they won, but they would have likely beaten either one.

Comment by Pauly P 10.07.09 @ 8:08 pm

Missouri lost in the Big 12 title game to Oklahoma, their 2nd loss to Oklahoma of the year. You may remember that WVU wasted Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl that year. Missouri didn’t even make a BCS bowl game, instead it was given to Kansas who beat Va Tech in the Orange Bowl.

Two one-loss teams, OSU and WVU, were rated 1 & 2 going into the 1st week of December and would have likely played for the title. But since WVU lost, the title spot was given to 2-loss LSU which won the SEC. Note the following would have happened if Pitt didn’t beat WVU:

1) UM alum Les Miles would have been shown the door at LSU, and hired at his alma mater. As it was, he was still rumored to go but backed off at the last minute.
2) RichRod would have likely won it all, stayed at WVU, and even may have gotten Pryor, who is a much better fit for his offense than Tressel, who ceratinaly doesn’t know what to do with him.
3) The Hoopie fans would be even more obnoxious

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 8:27 pm

Pauly, upon 2nd thought, you were right about Missouri … tey lost to Oklahoma the same night we beat WVU … thus it would have been MU and WVU had they both won. But if WVU won and MU lost, OSU would have moved up from 3rd (with 1 loss) .. LSU only got in because both lost. (note that they already had 2 losses that year … at UK and home vs Arkansas)

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 8:43 pm

Im not sure about the current talent on this years team, but I do beleive that the talent pool in this AREA is not what it used to be. Western PA football is not even close to what it was 20 years ago and has dropped way behind, FLA, Texas, California, etc. Wanny has to hope to pluck a few stars from these other states and go from there. Thats why it really hurts to see kids who are top notch go away from Pitt. Remember when Ambridge, Aliquippa, Steel Valley, etc were major AAA or quad A powerhouses. They barely field a team now. Expanding your recruiting territory is more important now than ever.

Comment by Z-boy 10.07.09 @ 9:28 pm

No question that the talentpool in W pA has declined, startiing with the cosing the steel mills in late 70s … milltown, talent-rich teams like Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Farrell, New Castle, Uniontown all played in the highest classification back then … most are them have dropped to AA level. And others like Rochester, Monaca, Clairton dropped to A level.

There is still quality but not the quantity — heck, even Eastern PA have long since surpassed W PA for recruiting, which kind of helps PSU and Rutgers. But the real hotbeds are Georgia, Florida, Texas and Calif.

Note that Pitt doesn’t recruit Florida anymore but has focused more on MD, Eastern PA, NJ and Ohio .. and doing well if you look at the 2010 class. However, losing Florida hurts in that even the 2nd wave, not recruited by UF, FSU & Miami, has given us the likes of Bryant, Cox, Blades, Sessions, Lee, Mustakas, and Romeus.

Comment by wbb 10.07.09 @ 10:25 pm

Expanding its recruiting territory is exactly what DW is doing. He & staff have made inroads into Central & Eastern PA, Ohio, MD and a few more. This effort will pay off more with each year as word from/about those palyers gets back to and circulated around those areas. They’ll all be singing HTP! And they will all grow to love Iron City! Maybe fish sandwiches too. HTP!!

Comment by IronManEE68 10.07.09 @ 10:40 pm

All very interesting posts, but what’s the missing ingredient allowing Pitt to reach elite status? Is it better players, better coaching, or a combination of both? Finally, is there any chance we can slow down even a mediocre passing game? Is it coaching or below average athletes, or are we just always unlucky?

Comment by ltl49 10.08.09 @ 12:18 am

Comment by steve 10.08.09 @ 7:06 am

while I certainly hope Gunn was the reason for the defense’s ineptitude vs NCS, I would have to believe it wasn’t that simple. I do believe we will see a better defense from here on … but maybe that’s more hope.

I know I am going to get criticism here, buy I believe thare are many barriers for Pitt reaching ‘elite’ status .. and most of them were mentioned above. (1) a home recruting area with less talent, (2) unable to compete with the big boys who draw a 100,000 fans especially in areas where college football is king, (3) low TV exposure than every other BCS conference, and (4) lower payouts from bowls and TV contracts than every other BCS conference.

Now if you define ‘elite’ status as competing / winning the BCS berth for the BE …. then I’m with you. There is no reason why we shouldn’t be in the BE title hunt every year.

Comment by wbb 10.08.09 @ 7:57 am

Zeise’s thesis is right on the money, confirmed by others in the program.

Comment by steve 10.08.09 @ 8:01 am

So why did it take a few weeks for the DD info to come out, instead of right after the game? Would have been pretty important information to feel slightly better about the NC State loss oh, maybe right after the game or at the very latest the weekly presser with DW.

Comment by Brian 10.08.09 @ 12:21 pm

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