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February 10, 2009

One Fouled Up Game

Filed under: Basketball,Big East,Conference,Opponent(s) — Chas @ 12:48 pm

I know. Bad pun. It’s the fact. The crew was hideous. Jay Bilas had the quote of the game, “My ears hurt from all the whistles being blown.”

It was the story on both ends of I-79. Columnists weighed in with the poor officiating often by couching it in how unfair it was for the fans.

But the guy who’s going to have the toughest tape review today is Big East director of officiating Art Hyland. His officials — Karl Hess, Curtis Shaw and Joe Lindsay — had a rotten night. Sure, it’s hard to call a Big East game — any Big East game — because the players are so big, so fast, so strong and so physical. But this was ridiculous. When four of the five best players in the game — Blair and Fields of Pitt and Butler and Alex Ruoff of West Virginia — each have two fouls little more than eight minutes into the game and are on the bench, the fans are the losers.

I still love the comment from Jermaine Dixon, though these refs may not be so nice the next time they see him.

It’s no wonder that Pitt’s Jermaine Dixon, when asked if he and Ruoff were doing a little trash talking in the second half, shook his head and said, “Nah, we were talking about the refs. I’m not going to tell you what we said.”

I think the implication is understood. It was especially frustrating for the WVU side as this little anecdote reveals.

At one point WVU Coach Bob Huggins got upset when backup point guard Will Thomas, who had just entered the game, was called for walking.

Huggins reached the boiling point right there and was going to yank Thomas. He walked from one end of the bench to the other, looking for a replacement. Reaching the far end, he realized he had no one to go in for Thomas, threw his hands into the air in exasperation and walked back to his spot at the other end of the bench.

At another point he yelled out at Hess. Now this a paraphrase, but what the gist of what he said was “It’s all right, Karl, my fault. I really didn’t want my two top scorers on the floor anyway.”

Wouldn’t you just love to know the actual quote? I would.

There was no way not to acknowledge the impact of the refs on the game. To give some credit to the WVU players who talked, they still said the right things.

“You’ve got to play a perfect game to beat them here,” WVU freshman point guard Truck Bryant said. “We weren’t even close to that.”

Alex Ruoff fouled out for just the fourth time in 116 career games. The Mountaineers’ second-leading scorer was joined by the top scorer, Da’Sean Butler, who scored four points and missed 10 of 12 shots.

It was his third game in single digits this season and the fewest points he’d scored since getting just two free throws against Marquette as a freshman … 81 games ago.

“I consider myself a smart player as a senior and I realize I can’t let frustrations carry over to the next play,” said Ruoff, who fouled out with 7:27 remaining and his team down by 13 points. “(Monday) it was tough with every little touch foul, especially with two Big East teams who play physical.

“We did a bad job — myself and other guys — adjusting to the refs and the way they call the game. You can never blame the refs. You’ve got to adjust and we didn’t do that at all.”

Of course, part of the problem was that there was little consistency to the refs. They called a lot of stuff, but it was never clear what or when at times.

“I don’t care how they call the game. I really don’t,” West Virginia coach Bob Huggins said. “As long as they call it the same. I don’t care if they call it tight or loose or whatever, as long as they call it consistently throughout the game.”

Huggins didn’t say it and didn’t even approach saying it, but the inference was unmistakable: that the game was not called the same from start to finish, and that’s why players from both teams got into so much foul trouble. From one possession to the next, what constituted a foul seemed to change.

The difference in how Pitt was able to adjust better was with the point guard play. Levance Fields got back on the court with the foul trouble for a reason.

Fields was whistled for his second foul with 12:53 to play in the first half. But freshman Ashton Gibbs played well off the bench and then Dixon put back in Fields with 5:52 left in the first half. With Fields on the floor, Pitt took a 29-24 lead into the locker room. Dixon’s decision to reinsert Fields went against his conventional wisdom. The sixth-year coach almost never plays anyone in the first half with two fouls.

“I just had a feeling and it worked out,”

It was more than a “feeling,” despite Coach Dixon downplaying it. It was a calculated risk that was needed. Fields can still stretch in the first half. He’s a senior and he was trusted not to make the silly foul on either end. Pitt just could not work the ball inside. Sure they could attack the rim and drive, but they lacked someone who could make the passes to hit guys cutting to the basket or that were around the basket. That was needed.

This game left Da’Shawn Butler a wreck.

For most of this year, Butler has been the most dependable of the West Virginia Mountaineers, a go-to guy for a basket and a go-to guy for a quote, but now in the shadow of a 70-59 defeat to those hated Panthers from up Pittsburgh way, there really wasn’t anything to say.

Butler, instead, sat in the locker room, tears running down his cheeks.

This junior out of New Jersey who had just recently scored 20 points in six consecutive games, had what was unquestionably the worst evening of his Mountaineer career.

In foul trouble throughout, Butler scored but four points. Only once, as a freshman, he scored fewer points, getting two that night.

And never in 97 games at West Virginia, had Butler gone without a single rebound.

For Pitt, this game was a big win because it was another win where the team was able to do it without Blair. Not just that, but once the Pitt players grasped that he wasn’t going to be in too much, they got much better on the boards.

With Blair relegated to 16 minutes, eight points and nine rebounds, the Panthers (22-2, 9-2 Big East) still produced a 39-23 rebound advantage against a West Virginia team that ranks second in the conference in offensive rebounding and fourth in rebound margin.

“We can’t get outrebounded by 16. We just can’t do it and expect to win,” West Virginia coach Bob Huggins said. “Every possession for us is so important because we can’t score enough points in the paint.”

What also makes that number impressive is that Pitt solidly beat them on offensive rebounds. Considering the ‘Eers shot just 40.4% to Pitt’s 48.1% there were a lot more opportunities for them, but Pitt did the better job on both ends.

From a greedy stat perspective, that was the only reason I kind of wished Pitt didn’t go full scrubs in the final couple of minutes. It allowed WVU to make their last two shots, which got them just over 40% (21-52). Otherwise, they would have been held to below 40% shooting which is always a good thing to see.

The defense responding last night was excellent. Especially when the offense continued to click — albeit just in the second half.

Pitt got back to its defensive roots last night and shut down West Virginia, 70-59, at the Petersen Events Center. The No. 4 Panthers (22-2, 9-2 Big East) swept the season series from the Mountaineers (16-8, 5-6) for the second time in the past three seasons and have now won six of the past seven in this rivalry.

“This is something more like an old Pitt game,” senior point guard Levance Fields said. “We still have to work on it. They still shot 40 percent. Our [goal] is to be below 40 percent. We still have to get a couple of percents down to be where we need to be.”

In the second half, Pitt shot 61.5% (16-26). That was outstanding.

The other cynical good news for Pitt on Blair’s bad night, there were 20 NBA scouts there. Blair only had limited time to impress. It had to help Sam Young. He finished with 20 points on 7-12 shooting (plus 6-7 on FTs), 7 rebounds and 3 blocks. He’s been struggling with his shot lately and it has affected his focus, but really does well against the Hoopies.

It helped to have Fields pushing him.

Fields reminded Young of the latitude of the moment, how he needed to bear the burden defensively and on the glass. Most importantly, Fields told Young to trust the system.

“When he gets himself in trouble is when he’s taking bad shots,” Fields said. “Sometimes, he gets away from that. He’s better when he stays within himself.

“He’s a guy who can make tough shots, but within the offense he plays much better. Sometimes, he’s playing kind of by himself, away from the offense, deviating from the offense.”

Finally. I know it’s easy to hate Huggins. I happen to appreciate the honest villain. Plus, he doesn’t care half the time about being nice in what he says.

Huggins made an appeal to fill the Coliseum Friday night. He particularly challenged the students.

“All of this stuff about us having the best crowd–no we don’t,” Huggins said. “You have the best crowd when you show up all the time. If that offends someone then so be it. They show up when they want to show up.”

“We need them. We are fighting like crazy to get into the NCAA tournament. We’ve completely filled up the student section once every two years. It would be great to get those all of those students in there because we need help.”

“Everybody talks about that ‘sixth man.’ You don’t want your sixth man to show up every two years. You want your sixth man to show up every game.”

Now, be fair. They fill up once a year, now that Pitt and WVU have the annual home-and-home.





That’s funny because my ears hurt too. But from having to listen to Jay Bilas all night.

Comment by Willy Ralphard 02.10.09 @ 12:56 pm

Bilas argued (with Rafferty) that Blair’s 3rd foul was legit …. and whether it was or not, I wonder if Bilas would admit that if it was his hero Hansrough instead of Bair, then it would have been called on the defender (and not even a non-call)

Comment by w bill 02.10.09 @ 1:54 pm

If you go with the premise that in the NCAA tournament, calls are much tighter; i.e., the refs don’t allow as much physical contact, isn’t this the kind of game that could actually help Pitt in the long run?

The Panthers’ perimeter shooting still worries me. If a good-shooting team were to get hot, the Panthers could quickly find themselves down double-digits, and not have a legitimate answer.

Comment by Colt Convert 02.10.09 @ 3:07 pm

We can whine about inconsistent officiating all night, but Blair was channelling his inner Kemoeatu on the first foul and clearly reached in on Ebanks on the second. The third was a tough call — no doubt about it, but you’re going to have some go against you night in and night out in the Big East.

The question is — how does Dixon get Blair to listen to him? No reaching, no offensive guard pulling blocks, no bumps on hedges 30 ft from the hoop……

I guess all we can hope is that it bothered him to sit most of the game with all his Steeler buddies in attendance.

Comment by hugh green 02.10.09 @ 4:07 pm

I’ve actually been pleased with the development of Wannamaker in shooting. Did you hear the stats on what he has done recently? Been on fire. Also, Gibbs is one of the best in the league if he would take more. Dixon has been hitting at like 40% since the Georgetown game I believe. The shooting concern was a preseason critque by almost everyone. That has pretty much disappeared as of late so I’m not sure why it is comming up again. This team doesn’t need 3’s to win, but if they do, there are plenty of guys who can knock them down. Consider if Blair is out of the game and Biggs at the 5 Young at the 4 Wanny, Brown, Gibbs, or Dixon as 3/2 and Levance at the 1. Every guy in that lineup can hit a three.

Comment by Willy Ralphard 02.10.09 @ 4:15 pm

Willy R, but that didn’t happen in their two losses. I believe in the last 8 minutes of each of their losses, they only recorded one field goal each game — 3 ponter, 2 pointer or lay-up. There is no question that this is by far the best outside shooting Pitt team in recent memory, but shooting is not as constant as rebounding which is as much effort as it is skill.

Comment by w bill 02.10.09 @ 5:13 pm

w bill ya it didn’t happen in their two losses, but how many teams shoot lights out when they lose. Very few. The best shooting teams in the country have off nights that cost them games. I just don’t think its a major concern this year. They are like number 1 in adjusted offense I believe. This isn’t the old Jaron Brown, Brandin Knight, Page teams, they may not defend quite as well but the O isn’t a concern like before. The shooting concerns is a stigma that has stuck around since those teams and it is no longer applicable that Pitt can defend but not play O/ shoot.

Comment by Willy Ralphard 02.10.09 @ 9:15 pm

Willy:

I think w bill is saying that if Pitt shoots poorly and doesn’t rebound then they will lose. Groundbreaking.

Comment by omar 02.10.09 @ 9:33 pm

It also feels “groundbreaking” for Omar to admit that there’s anything that could keep Pitt from the Final 4, so I think we’re headed in a positive, realistic direction. Kumbaya.

It is nice seeing Wanamaker and Gibbs come in off the bench and knock down shots. It’s driven me crazy for years that Pitt’s guards (Ramon the exception) couldn’t consistently knock down open threes and I never bought that shooting and tough defense were mutually exclusive. Wanamaker has improved his perimeter game tremendously and Gibbs came in firing. That’s great. Even Jermaine Dixon has hit some big ones, though the best thing about his shooting is that he’s developed some discretion. (Same with Fields — he’s taking some makable twos and mostly skipping the bombs.)

I’d still like to see the ball move around better (rather than Fields pounding it), which would lead to more and more open outside shots. Don’t know if anybody watched Nova and Marquette last night, but both teams fired it around the perimeter (necessarily, because they don’t have much inside) and both teams drilled treys all night. Pitt doesn’t need to rely on three pointers because of the big man in the middle, but crisp play around, through, and over a zone will help them win tournament games in March.

Comment by hugh green 02.11.09 @ 8:25 am

ha ha. well done.

Comment by omar 02.11.09 @ 8:34 am

thanks!

Comment by hugh green 02.11.09 @ 8:43 am

The only “consistency” i want to see from the refs is to call the same type of fouls on BOTH teams – which i saw in this game. Each team got some rough fouls (see: Blairs 3rd) and each team had 2 starters sitting. The days that suck are the games where the refs are clearly influenced by the crowd and let one team get away with murder (see: Nova and UL). Even if the refs are allowing beatings in the post and but calling ticky tack handchecks, which would seem “inconsistent” – that’s fine if they call it that way for BOTH teams. Nothing is worse than when your team has to be less agressive cause they’re getting rung up for fouls more often than the other team, assuming both teams are equally agressive… Anyone remember the tackle on Youngs head and the “fake dive” they hit fields with a foul on at a critical time in the UL game? Now THAT was awful. When we breathed on them, we got rung up – yet they could hit us in the face with a forarm shiver and “no-call.” I STILL don’t know what the hell was going on in that game…

Comment by Stuart 02.11.09 @ 9:21 am

PS. Your blog is bitching about “spamkarma” or something when i posted that last comment…

Comment by Stuart 02.11.09 @ 9:22 am

Hugh:

You mentioned picking up the slack with rebounding when Blair is out of the game in an earlier post. This is where I think starting Biggs has hurt. With Blair in the game, Pitt can hold its own with anybody on the glass. When Blair goes out, a fresh Tyrell Biggs can keep Pitt competitive on the boards at the very least. Problem is Biggs isn’t fresh when Blair leaves the game and this hurts our frontcourt depth quite a bit. McGhee being unable to contribute is an issue as well.

Additionally in both of our losses not only was Blair in foul trouble, but Biggs too. This was almost as important as our rebounding, especially offensively, is not a weapon like it is with those two. Biggs is also a very good offensive rebounder.

We know there isn’t going to be a change in the starting line-up at this point, but perhaps Dixon can sub in for Blair of Biggs earlier to make sure one of them is on the court at all times.

Comment by Omar 02.11.09 @ 11:57 am

Blair OR Biggs, I meant to write.

Comment by Omar 02.11.09 @ 11:58 am

Omar, you are the absolute master of taking posts out of context without looking at what the previous conversation was. Perfect example was the “but we effing have Blair” ost from yesterday when the whole conversation was based on DeJuan not playing due to foul problems.

what I’m saying is if DeJuan is playing, we can win whether we shoot well or not. If he is not playing and we don’t shoot well (unless we are playing an inferior team), we are in trouble … because we do not have sufficient frontcourt depth.

Note that Blair has 289 rebounds this year which is 28% of our team total of 1038. Next is Sam Young at 140 (less than half) Biggs has 116.

For UConn — Thabeet has 235 rebounds and Adrien has 232.

Comment by w bill 02.11.09 @ 12:09 pm

Blair is a dominant rebounder. That is a fact. He is the best rebounder in the entire country. Blair is a much better rebounder than Thabeet as evidenced by him grabbing 50 more than Thabeet. Blair needs to be on the floor for Pitt to win. Just like Thabeet will need to be on the floor for UCONN to win against the best teams. Is it possible for both teams to win without their best player, sure. But it will be the exception and not the rule.

My point is that if Blair is in foul trouble against the best competition then Pitt will lose. Simple. He is just too important for Pitt to win against the best teams without him. This is compounded when Biggs is in foul trouble along with Blair.

Comment by omar 02.11.09 @ 12:39 pm

It also means that Gilbert Brown has to do more when he is on the court.

Comment by Joey D 02.11.09 @ 12:52 pm

Gil needs more playing time to get into the flow of the game, but the problem is that we don’t really have the minutes anymore with the guards playing so well of the bench. Watch for gil to explode next yr when he’s starting in Sam’s place, but for now, we’re gonna get a few offensive tip in’s and maybe 6-7 pts a game out of him……..

Comment by schoey 02.11.09 @ 1:07 pm

the trouble is for all the athleticism that both Sam and Gilbert has, they have proven to be ineffective unders the boards against the likes of Samuardo and (Dante) Cunningham. They just don’t have enough bulk to grab offensive rebounds or to post down low.

Further, withour Blair, maybe the reason that we shot poorly against Nova and Lville was without the low post threst, it is much easier to defend the perimeter against us — no reason to double-down or even pinch in.

I do think Gilbert will come into his own next year with more playing time …. but at the 3 not the 4 (altough it would help if DeJuan was playing along side and be the main focus.)

Comment by w bill 02.11.09 @ 2:19 pm

Guys, argue all you want, but I do have some groundbreaking news:

If the other team scores points than Pitt, we WILL lose! That’s a fact!

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 02.11.09 @ 3:44 pm

Omar,maybe you’re right and Dixon can do some more maneuvering to make sure Biggs is fresh when Blair is out………..but I’m not convinced a fresh Biggs is the answer. I’ve never been too impressed with Biggs’ rebounding, offensive or defensive. He definitely benefits with a few offensive putbacks each game because the opposing frontline is occupied with Blair, but he’s smaller than he’s listed (nowhere near 6’8″) and is often at a size and athletic disadvantage vs the comp (Adrien, Jennings). I hope he can hold his own the rest of the year…..

Comment by hugh green 02.11.09 @ 4:31 pm

Biggs has been a solid offensive rebounder throughout his career. I actually think Biggs is a really nice player. Adrien is better, but not by leaps and bounds. It may not solve the problem, but I think it would help.

Comment by omar 02.11.09 @ 4:40 pm

If we are all going to subscribe to such statements as “if the other teams scores more points than Pitt, we will lose” or “if Pitt shoots poorly and doesn’t rebound then they will lose” without discussing the diagnostics, … then why in the hell do we spend so much time on this site?

The crawl on the bottom on of ESPN should be all that you need.

Comment by w bill 02.11.09 @ 8:02 pm

gil brown has so far been a huge disappointment this year. I know he was injured but it sure is takingg a long time for him to come around. Boy would I like to hear the truth from Dixon telling us why Brown is not getting big minutes. I know we have depth with Wanny,Gibbs but I thought Brown was going to have a big year. 12pts 5rebs every game.

Comment by buzz 02.11.09 @ 9:42 pm

Brown has not been a huge disappointment. As Omar mentioned, the reason he isn’t putting up numbers is simply a playing time issue and that’s due in part to the play of Wannamaker, Fields and Dixon. I think it has very little to do with his health. When he was starting/6th man last year he did a heck of a job and I’d be looking for him to contribute more next year with Young’s departure.

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