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October 8, 2008

It’s 2004 All Over Again

Filed under: Big East,Conference,Football — Chas @ 12:34 am

The Hoopies were widely expected to dominate in a weakened Big East in the first season after Miami and VT left for the ACC. Instead, Mountaineers repeatedly spit the bit. Ultimately going down to Pitt in the Backyard Brawl, when a win could have still clinched the BE. Lame duck BC was on the verge of claiming the Big East as a final FU, before completely choking against Syracuse (something that still brings a smile to my face). The final standings of the BE actually had a 4-way tie with Pitt, WVU, Syracuse and BC. Pitt, however, finished with the best record amidst the group.

Already there is a feeling that the Big East could be heading to a similar fate — though hopefully without the dead hooker. The conference is wide open for practically anyone (outside of Rutgers and Syracuse) to claim the title. The negative, at least as far as perception goes, is that it would signify how weak the Big East is this year. No dominate teams, and if the winner of the conference finishes with two conference losses, it likely means the highest ranked team would be somehwere near #20.

Of course the way to avoid that fate would be for either Pitt, WVU or USF to run the table in the conference.

RIght now Pitt and USF are the only two teams ranked in any polls so if they win out in the Big East, they will be at least decently ranked (and by decently, I mean somewhere in the #10-15 area) in the polls at the end of the season. WVU gets in the discussion because they still have one non-con game with any meaning. They still play Auburn in a couple weeks on Thursday night.

Really, it’s too early to be overly worried, but there is this bye week. So there needs to be something to discuss.

I would posit — and not just because I am a Pitt partisan — that Pitt should be the team the Big East should be backing if this is really a concern. Pitt has the one early loss. They are unbeaten in conference play early. They actually still have a meaningful non-cons at Navy and Notre Dame. A strong finish and the argument can at least be made that the team improved as the season went on.

So, really for the good of the conference, we would all appreciate it if Rutgers, Louisville, Cinci, WVU and UConn would all just roll over at the appropriate times.





tell big east refs they owe us a few from last year

Comment by square44 10.08.08 @ 12:44 am

Cheering for the Hoopies over Auburn will be tough but it would be a big win for the conference.

Comment by C 10.08.08 @ 7:23 am

Unfortunately Pitt never makes anything easy. I expect a lot of close games with the race for the conference title coming down to the last game.

Comment by Rex 10.08.08 @ 9:02 am

I still think the champion will only have 1 conference loss

Comment by Jamie H 10.08.08 @ 9:11 am

If Pitt can beat Navy, I think we could have a packed house for Rutgers Homecoming.

Chas, I didnt see any mention of this article from the PG:

link to post-gazette.com

Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt is regarded as one of the top recruiters in the nation and he has signed top-rated recruiting classes in the Big East in each of the past three seasons, even though the Panthers have not registered a winning season during that period.

That brings up an interesting question: If Wannstedt can recruit as well as he has without winning, how much better could he be with a successful season?

This past weekend might have given him and his staff a taste of it as they were out recruiting (the Panthers are off this week) on the heels of their 26-21 upset of then No. 10 South Florida.

“I got several e-mails and calls from recruits after the game, and we had a recruiting meeting and [the other coaches on the staff] had the same experience,” Wannstedt said yesterday via teleconference. “We had two coaches stay and recruit in Florida after the game and it was very receptive. And then we had guys in New Jersey and we had guys in eastern Pennsylvania last week and everybody was echoing the same sentiments about how positive it is out there, and that’s good.”

Comment by Rex 10.08.08 @ 10:52 am

Winning would obviously be a huge boost to recruiting. Rutgers was set to pull in a great recruiting class because of their recent good years, but already they have had major defections and guys deciding to “re-open their recruitment” (i.e. see how many better offers they can reel in before they hop on the sinking ship)- including the #1 ranked center in the nation. Hmmmm- we’ll be in need of a starting center year after next…

If Pitt keeps winning, the rest of the home games will be sellouts and their facilities over in the South Side are as nice as any facilities in the nation. They will definitely end very strong if they keep on winning.

Comment by Dan35 10.08.08 @ 11:30 am

Agreed. I wouldn’t look for it to yield a slew of commitments right now, especially since most of the kids are in the middle of their seasons, but I don’t doubt that they line up a ton of visits over the next 4-6 weeks. And as we know, getting them on campus, much like ‘Knowing’, is 1/2 the battle. Especially if the Zoo is giving them some love. In the long-term, it’s definitely a good thing to keep making headway with the Florida schools, and since many of the athletes there don’t really open up their recruiting for another month or two, some school ground presence from the assistants certainly doesn’t hurt.

Comment by johnny 10.08.08 @ 12:17 pm

The key is just winning. Just win and win now. That means the coaching staff needs to come up with interesting schemes every darn week. They need to be working harder than the players. We’ve got the weapons and talent compared to the other teams remaining on our schedule.

Comment by CRIMHEAD 10.08.08 @ 12:27 pm

[…] after the USF game, the comparisons were made to the 2004 team. I made the comparison to the conference being down like in 2004, but I’m not so sure about a direct correlation with that Pitt team. That season started out […]


the “dead hooker” stuff is brilliant. kudos to the boys over at Nunes…

Comment by ECH 10.08.08 @ 2:06 pm

[…] it just like 2004 for […]


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