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March 26, 2008

Early Eyes On QBs

Filed under: Football,Players,Practice — Chas @ 8:21 pm

Well, it looks like Pat Bostick really has taken his off-season conditioning very seriously.

Bostick was equally elated, not just because of a new streamlined body that has dropped his weight from 231 pounds (his playing weight last season) to 214 pounds and increased his mobility. But also because of a strength and flexibility program that has improved his arm strength and velocity.

Bostick said he couldn’t throw the football beyond 50 yards last season, even, he joked, if the “wind was at my back.” This year, with the help of strength coach Buddy Morris, he has increased the range of motion in his right arm and can throw the ball 61 yards in the air.

“Even today, there was one play where I was rolling out and I was thinking while I was running: ‘Man, this doesn’t seem normal,’ ” Bostick said. “When you’re lighter, you can move better.”

“The best player will play, and that’s what I want for the team,” Bostick said. “You want the best guys out there. It’s a competition within myself right now. If it’s good enough, it’s good enough.”

Bostick saying the right things about the team and doing the right things in the offseason. That’s reassuring. Now, it becomes a question about how things are coming with his delivery. That wind-up of his has to remain a concern.

Bill Stull, was back taking snaps at long last. Predictably, he was happy to be back.

“I think it’s only going to make me mentally and physically stronger,” Stull said. “I understand what it takes to get the job done, but I also know what it takes to have it taken away, kind of.”

Stull is back to full strength after suffering a thumb injury on his right (throwing) hand, and split the majority of the snaps with Bostick yesterday. Both quarterbacks practiced with the first team while Smith and Cross’s snaps were limited. Smith saw more time than Cross, a mobile quarterback who is still learning the playbook.

The conventional wisdom is that Bostick will take the redshirt he should have had last year, this season. Then Greg Cross and Stull ultimately splitting time at QB. Hard to go against that view right now.
Stull, obviously, has the advantage of being in the system for 3 years and familiarity and comfort with the coaches. Cross has the advantage of being a more athletic QB and offering more options to run the ball. Both have maturity and are about the same size.

Still, I think Bostick will force his way into the conversation. He has the advantage, at least early, of being more familiar with the 1st team and knowing the playbook better than Cross.





I still don’t get how Bostick was a top-rated QB in the country when he had such horrible mechanics? I remember the first time I saw him play, I couldn’t believe how long it took him to get rid of the ball.

Comment by matt in nyc 03.26.08 @ 8:46 pm

Stull may have been in the system for three years but as of now he has much less game experience in comparison to Bostick. I just don’t get how everybody thinks Stull is a good QB. He wasn’t highly recruited out of high school and he has one game under his belt against E. Mich (i think that was the team). Coach W had to defend his poor spring play last year by stating that he is the type of QB that shows up in games. Great statement but at that point he only had a few snaps under Palko. K. Smith has more game experience than Stull. It will be an interesting battle.

Comment by Ironhead 03.26.08 @ 9:13 pm

I think I said this once before, but Jim Kelly said that people freaked about Bernie Kosar’s mechanics when he first came to Miami. His mechs didn’t improve, but Kosar turned out OK anyway.

So, this is what I think:

– Bostick’s improvement is not tied to whether his mechanics change or not.
– Which is good, because they probably won’t.

And, I really think Bostick was a glorified high school QB last year, with being a true freshman and missing camp. If he isn’t significantly improved this year, I’ll be a little surprised. So come on Pat, channel that Bernie Kosar with that #19!

Comment by Brian of Brooklyn 03.26.08 @ 10:52 pm

Cause wunderkin Clausen lit it up at ND last year with his “once in a lifetime” mechanics and ability…

…anyways…i really don’t care who starts, as long as the 2 guys after him are ready to come in and perform even better if need be.

Comment by Stuart 03.26.08 @ 11:55 pm

Rod Rutherford was the top rated player in PA, yet was an awful QB with no mechanics. The ratings aren’t based on who looks like an NFL QB, but based on winning and stats in high school, which often come against lopsided competition.

At the same time, Rutherford became a pretty good QB at Pitt (would have been better if he wasn’t forced to take 10 sacks a game), and there is no reason Bostick can’t do the same.

Comment by The Prowler 03.27.08 @ 12:51 am

Would have been MUCH worse if he didn’t have Fitzgerald to lob balls at all day…it all evens out.

Comment by Stuart 03.27.08 @ 3:23 am

To add to Stuart and the Prowler – I don’t care who’s QB, as long as the aren’t on their butt 15 times a game. And don’t throw it to the other team. Anything else is icing.

Comment by Kevin 03.27.08 @ 6:56 am

Kosar’s ‘poor’ mechanics didn’t include a windup that started with the football being held at the waist and brought up into the throwing motion, with a ‘hitch’ in the progression. Bostick’s habit of doing that added an extra motion and an accompanying time delay for getting the ball on its way to the receiver. If you saw the games last year you’d notice that extra motion did two things; it added more room for physical errors on Pat’s passes and gave the DBs a key and extra time to break on the pass. It was a major problem for Bostick last season.

That said, Dale G. reports from Spring Camp that the ‘hitch’ is gone. Well, that was fast. The kid plays his whole young life with a certain physical muscle memory in the most important thing he does – throw passes – and all of a sudden it disappears over three months. Amazing. We’ll wait and see if that hitch comes back under duress in the heat of the moment during plays.

I hope its true. The fact that he worked hard enough over the off season to change other physical qualities that were negatives bodes well, and shows a real sense of committment on Bostick’s part.

Bostick has a lot of the qualities that make college QBs successful, and he does have game experience, so I think he has a good future at PITT.

Comment by Reed 03.27.08 @ 7:01 am

Reed,

I must agree that is a great observation regarding the hitch and correcting it.

The qb throwing motion is like a golf swing, if its ugly you can modify but in the end it remains ugly. We shall see, don’t count out Cross, he is very mobile and has a great arm.

Comment by Arnold Palmer 03.27.08 @ 7:23 am

Did anyone see this in the Trib this monring…

Offensive lineman Justin Boren says he’s left the Michigan football team because the program’s “family values have eroded.”

I hope this is the first of things to come for DickRod!!!! This kid started every game last year.

Comment by Fcuk Paterno 03.27.08 @ 8:18 am

Artilce on Scout.com by Dale G

Wannstedt said he wouldn’t think about redshirting Bostick this season and noted that “Pat is here to start.”

link to pittsburgh.scout.com

Comment by Fcuk Paterno 03.27.08 @ 8:29 am

The Michigan family is no doubt VERY nervous at this point… I would be. WVU fans must be loving this

As for not thinking about redshirting Bostick: I think what Wannstedt means by that is he’s not going to ‘tag’ him as a redshirt at this point- there’s no need to. You’ve got to let these guys compete and make the best man win the job. If Stull wins out, then as the season starts you just don’t play the guy you need to redshirt. There’s no deadline by which you have to declare a guy to be a redshirt for the year.

Comment by Dan35 03.27.08 @ 10:09 am

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