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March 16, 2008

Pitt Gets a 4 Seed

Filed under: Basketball,NCAA Tourney,Uncategorized — Dennis @ 8:54 pm

The Selection Show came and went without much surprise regarding Pitt. They fell in the 4/5 range that was expected and the biggest gripe right now is the location — our first (and second) round games are all the way out in Denver. The full bracket can be found here.

The top four seeds in our region, the South:

  1. Memphis
  2. Texas
  3. Stanford
  4. Pitt

Compared to the other regions, ours is not the hardest (East) nor the easiest (West).

The first game will be on Thursday, and game time is expected to be released tomorrow. Oral Roberts is the opponent — one of the most obscure and least-known teams in the field this year. Potential match ups down the road (should we win, of course) are interesting to look at:

1. The the second round we would face the (5)Michigan State vs (12)Temple winner. The quick thought is a Pitt-MSU meeting, but don’t put it past the Spartans to lose to Temple. If they can lose to Penn State, why not to a team that actually wins a few games?

2. Top seeded Memphis will likely await the winner of the Denver pod. So much has been made of “Calapari is a better coach than Dixon, we should have hired him” so how about settling it on the court. Memphis runs up and down the floor as fast as anyone, opposite of Pitt’s methodical and slower paced style.

Don’t get me wrong though, I haven’t forgot about Bradley and Pacific. Let’s get past Oral Roberts first.





Bobby Knight picks Pitt to win it all.

Comment by mike t 03.16.08 @ 8:59 pm

gotta love Bobby Knight he is the only one that makes sense

Lets make this happen

Hail to PITT!

Comment by ry4meck 03.16.08 @ 9:01 pm

how funny was that? haha. thats awesome! go bob knight!

Comment by Matt D 03.16.08 @ 9:01 pm

I think Bobby Knight is right…

Comment by Dan 72 03.16.08 @ 9:03 pm

I’m told game time is listed at 2pm…not sure if thats EST or their time….i don’t care if you believe me either. Just what i’m told.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 9:19 pm

Well, i’m told its 2pm EST, but also told MSU is 2pm EST…so its obviously wrong. Carry on.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 9:22 pm

I witnessed #4 Kansas go down to #13 bradley before 90% anti-kansas crowd – and thats the same crowd we’re getting out there. They’re 10 hours away, all the MSU and Temple fans we’ll be rooting for ORU too. I’m not even THINKING about the second game yet – we got jobbed. Its going to take a lot just to get through this first game – practically a home game for ORU, relatively speaking.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 9:26 pm

heres bobby knight picking pitt link to youtube.com

Comment by pitpanther01 03.16.08 @ 9:41 pm

Yeah, Stuart, but that was also the first NCAA tourney for most of the members of that Kansas team. We have a bit more experience going in, and hopefully that will help us.

Comment by JS 03.16.08 @ 9:51 pm

Pitt, a Big East team from the East is seeded to play in the “South” in Denver, over 1300 miles from where i am in Jackson, MS. WTF?? Has global warming progressed that far? maybe someone can explain this for all of us…

Comment by IronmanEE68 03.16.08 @ 9:52 pm

For once I’m not thinking Pitt got screwed. A four seed (after we were projected about an 8/9 before the start of the B.E. Tournament) is about what I thought we SHOULD get. The way Pitt’s been jobbed in the past, I figured we’d end up a 5. I also like being in the Memphis bracket – out of the four #1s, I think I’d rather play them or UCLA the most.

The one thing that kind of irks me is Louisville getting a 3 seed. We beat them in the last game and won FOUR games in a row (three over ranked teams) to win our conference tournament. We have two more wins and one more loss than them. To me, we should have gotten a higher seed than them, but I’m not going to complain. For once, I think we got a fairly decent shake…especially compared to other teams that got hosed like Indiana (who is ranked in the top 25 and got an 8/9 seed).

Comment by MaileMan2001 03.16.08 @ 10:10 pm

Indiana definitely got hosed; they could give UNC a run. Maybe not beat them, but certainly scare them.

Comment by JS 03.16.08 @ 10:28 pm

Tip is definitely 3pm-ish EST. Maybe a little later if the MSU game is longer than 2 hours.

Thats 1pm-ish their time in Denver.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 10:45 pm

Gametime is around 3:00 EST.

link to ncaa.com

Comment by FJoePa 03.16.08 @ 10:45 pm

Not sure why link didn’t work. Just copy and past entire second line and will see all first round times from the NCAA website.

Comment by FJoePa 03.16.08 @ 10:47 pm

link to sportsline.com

Pitt plays at 2:50

Comment by Fcuk Crean 03.16.08 @ 10:49 pm

I’m not saying we got screwed in seeding (although one could make a case for a 3) but we definitely got screwed in being placed near their school in the first round. We weren’t “protected” like they say you will be. Like they couldn’t have put one of the other 13s out there, like siena – then we are protected, and so is the other 4 against oru.

Yeah, we should still beat them, but it doesn’t make it any less absurd.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 10:53 pm

Please don’t get worried about Oral freakin’ Roberts, Stu. It’s not like we’re playing at ORU.

Comment by Crackbaldo 03.16.08 @ 11:15 pm

Right. Kent St, Pacific. I sat there and watched 4 seed Kansas “not worry” about the 13 seed, then watched us “not worry” about that same 13 seed the next day. We should murder them, but i take NOTHING for granted.

Comment by Stuart 03.16.08 @ 11:24 pm

All I really know about Oral Roberts is that their most famous alumnus is Ned Flanders. Go Panthers!

Comment by johnny 03.16.08 @ 11:27 pm

anyone who is interested…at bigeast.org they have the postgame award ceremony…its basically 18 minutes of pure pitt celebration…worth a watch.

Comment by tdemps 03.17.08 @ 12:01 am

is there any way you could get the player introductions at the Big East championship? That was so hard and pumped me up!

Comment by jwill22d 03.17.08 @ 12:27 am

I don’t know what I would like more, beating UCLA in the final four, or beating Duke in the final four!! haha.

Let’s get there first. C’mon boys….this is our year!

Comment by Tony 03.17.08 @ 12:32 am

My favorite thing about Oral Roberts is that sometimes on TV they abbreviate their name as “Oral Rob.” Sounds like a male prostitute!!!!

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 03.17.08 @ 1:26 am

Oral Roberts is a shit pump.

Comment by Darren Morningstar 03.17.08 @ 2:57 am

Per Sagarin’s computer (See USAToday Online) Oral Roberts if in the BE would be between Providence and Villanova in strength and better than Cincinatti. Sagarin predicts Pitt by about 7 points (neutral site). FWIW–the oddsmakers have Pitt favored by 11 this AM.

Comment by pitt1972 03.17.08 @ 10:01 am

When we moved up from a 7 or 8 seed to a 4 seed why did we have to go from the projection of playing in Omaha to Denver? And how did the bracketologists suddenly know on Sunday afternoon well in advance of the selection show that we would be in Denver? Just trying to figure this out. Any ideas?

Comment by TonyinHouston 03.17.08 @ 11:50 am

Stu,

Not everything is a vast consipracy against Pitt!

Do you watch the x-files and stargate?

Comment by Fox Mulder 03.17.08 @ 11:59 am

Anyone have info on what time the Saturday games are? I know Pitt is not into the second round yet and am asking for general information on the times of Saturday games and not specifically asking for the time of the Pitt game in particular because I have no interest in jinxing anything. Just wondering if anyone had insight into what time sessions start in specific sub-regions.

Comment by Maz 03.17.08 @ 3:15 pm

STFU retard. I never use the word “conspiracy.” Tell me i’m wrong about not being “protected” though.

Sat games are at 4.40 or 7.10 pm Denver time.

Comment by Stuart 03.17.08 @ 3:42 pm

Stuart, if you look at all the available locations, along with seeds 1 thru 3, you’ll see that those sites were appropriately taken by those seeds(higher priority and close to home). Looks to me like the only other location possible was Tampa. UCONN took that spot and it’s hardly different than going to Denver anyway.

Comment by TT 03.17.08 @ 5:23 pm

I’d rather go to Tampa than Denver because of time-zone changes. And because its a lot less convenient to ORU fans.

Comment by Maz 03.17.08 @ 5:45 pm

Why didn’t they put Siena (from NY) out in denver instead of tampa, and them put ORU in tampa – that way both 4 seeds (Pitt and Vandy) are protected. I’m not saying move us, i’m saying don’t screw us with the 13 seed. Anyone explain that to me?

Comment by Stuart 03.17.08 @ 6:11 pm

I’ll agree with that, but I doubt the selection commitee sat around and debated whether to send PITT or Uconn to Denver based on time zone change and convenience. It’s likely they were the higher seeded 4 and got Tampa. I’m just givin Stu a plausible reason why we’re in Denver.

Comment by TT 03.17.08 @ 6:15 pm

Am i the only one on this entire blog that went to the Kansas and Pitt debacle up in detroit? And if any of you did, do you not see what we’re in for here?

Comment by Stuart 03.17.08 @ 6:19 pm

LOL, now you’re worried about which 13 seed we’re playing?? Siena and ORU are both 13 as deemed by the commitee. What difference does it make which one we play? How does it protect us if they put Siena in Denver. Vandy was the higher seeded 4 and appropriately got Tampa. We were left with Denver. You can argue about which 4 has the higher priority, but that’s all you can argue. UCONN and Vandy were both higher 4s and probably should have been.

Comment by TT 03.17.08 @ 6:25 pm

I didn’t know they determined where the 13s would play before the 4s. I learn something new every day.

If you don’t understand what i’m saying, i have no hope to explain it any more clearly.

Wait, maybe there’s hope. Let me get out a mileage calculator:

Pitt to Denver: 1,450 miles
ORU to Denver: 695 miles
Siena to Denver: 1,804 miles

Do you understand the concept of being “protected” as a higher seed? Do you know what its “protection” from?

(BTW, that would leave Vandy 705 miles from tampa, and ORU 1,243 miles from tampa – vandy would be protected)

(and if you think that they can’t switch a 13 seeds location, or even that their location is decided after the four seeds location, i have no other way to put this, other than this: you are a moron.)

Comment by Stuart 03.17.08 @ 6:57 pm

“if you think that their location isn’t decided after the four seeds location” is what was meant in context in the last paragraph.

Comment by Stuart 03.17.08 @ 6:59 pm

I’m pretty sure I understand. I just don’t think they considered ORU close enough to Denver to be a ‘threat’ and neither should you. Who’s to say the crowd wouldn’t have cheered just as loudly for Siena? If we were playin in or near Tulsa, I’d understand. Yes they COULD HAVE switched 13s, but who cares?? It’s a 13, we should beat them. If not, it’s our fault, not the committee.

…and here comes the Detroit story in 3, 2, 1……..

Comment by TT 03.17.08 @ 7:21 pm

I’ve been doing some research on vaunted academic information portal Wikipedia, and I have some bad news guys. First round is a little tougher than we thought. (As a side note, I’d like to point out that Mr. Oral Roberts is still alive and apparently doing well at the age of 90.)

On to the “analysis”….

“He founded Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1963, stating he was obeying a command from God. The university was chartered in 1963 and received its first students in 1965. Students were required to sign an honor code pledging not to drink, smoke, dance, party, or engage in premarital sex.”

Uhhh…shit. Close your eyes and imagine life at that school. I thought that our players played with an edge, gritttttt, and toughness; but shit! Those are gonna be some angry dudes! No drinking, no smoking, no partying, no dancing, no sex…other than “kill me now” my first thought there is “Damn, I would have a lot of aggression that needed to come out somehow.” On the other hand, maybe if we spike the punch at their pregame shootaround and bring along some of South Oakland’s finest gals, they could be distracted during the game…also, I’d really like to hear some uber-Christians talking about how they were done in by Ahhrn City beer.

More trouble…
“In 1977 Roberts claimed to have a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith Medical and Research Center and the hospital would be a success.”

900-foot-tall Jesus? Even if he can’t score, he must be a bitch to try to drive on! Let’s say, conservatively, he’s got no athleticism whatsoever. Even then, how much trouble could a 900-foot-tall Hibbert…err, Jesus cause in the lane?! If they get to practice against him, I don’t see how anyone (okay, other than Sam Young) is gonna be able to block shots against them. Seriously folks, 900-foot-tall Jesus? I mean, the scariest thing we’ve seen all year is a seven foot tall Hoopie!

Finally, a lot of people are worried about Scott Sutton because his brother Sean coaches Ok. State, whom we played. (And I should also point out, Ok. State fans are the most knowledgeable and classy fans EVER. Hung out with them at the Sweet 16 matchup when they beat us in 2004, and they were absolutely first-class all the way.) Let’s try to remember that Sean Sutton probably didn’t glean too many nuggets of insight in a 17 point drubbing. Also, five days later Oral Roberts spanked Ok State by 16 @ the Ford Center in Ok City (where we played the Pokes last year). That game was on ESPN2 because Pitt was playing…hmm..someone in MSG. I remember being really annoyed that Ok State was starting their tailspin IMMEDIATELY after we played them, but I guess the tournament team won that game.

Go Pitt!

Also, props to Pitt for scheduling non-con tourney team Mississippi Valley State!

Comment by Maz 03.17.08 @ 7:34 pm

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