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February 7, 2008

Rivalry games. You gotta love ’em.

— Especially when Pitt wins. That makes it 4 in a row in hoops over WVU.

Just some assorted notes.

The look of anguish on Wellington Smith when Ramon hit that game winning 3 was a delicious topping. Smith was the Hoopie who came to help on Benjamin and left Ramon to plant in the corner.

Did someone forget to tell DeJuan Blair that Hasheem Thabeet was not guarding him any longer? He was 3-13 with the only baskets coming when there was no one in front of him. Everything else he shot looked like he was trying to aim it around people. He was altering his own shot. The early bad/cheap/questionable offensive foul he picked up versus Smalligan very early may have gotten in his head.

Technically, Blair’s 3-13 was more than offset by Joe Alexander and Da’Sean Butler’s combined 3-20 and 3-8 on free throws for a grand total of 11 points. Not to mention Alex Ruoff only adding 5 points. That’s 16 points from WVU’s top 3 scorers.

Of course what kept WVU in the game was Darris Nichols 16 points and Joe Mazzulla going for 15 on 6-7 shooting (3-4 on 3s). Damn those streaky jump shooters. Nichols and Mazzulla were 12-22 for 31 points. The rest of the Hoopies were 7-31 with 23 points.

Benjamin came up with some big moments late in the game. The inbound slam when Blair slapped it right to him — sweet. Then there was the dribble penetration in the closing seconds that brought the other defender off Ramon freeing him for that beautiful, game-winning, open 3.

That said, Benjamin has no confidence in his perimeter shooting right now. He was 0-4 and became increasingly afraid to shoot it. WVU practically dared him a couple times in the second half, by staying off of him. You could see him literally freeze as he started to square-up for a 3 and change his mind.

I’m going to give Sam Young the benefit of the doubt on the issue of pouting. His facial expressions generally range from grim to sullen. He just doesn’t do a happy face real well. He was understandably frustrated by the early foul trouble and having to sit for 13 minutes. And if it was a little pouting, well his second half effort was 3-3 (2-2 on 3s) and 3 rebounds in 19 minutes.

Between Young’s early foul trouble and Gilbert Brown’s second half foul issues, Bradley Wanamaker played 23 minutes. Definitely showing more patience on offense, but his court awareness of defenders not directly in front of him is, um, lacking. I find myself holding my breath any time he brings the ball up court with any defenders trailing behind him. He doesn’t keep the ball particularly close to his body when he dribbles which makes him prone to those turnovers and steals. His defense, though, is his strength. At the very least, he looks to be a defensive specialist. Of course, he is only a freshman and raw. I can see him developing steadily in his career as Antonio Graves did.

As a team, I wasn’t thrilled with the rebounding. Pitt was only +4 on rebounds despite the volume of brick-work by WVU. I know part of that was the fact that WVU spread the court and took a lot of jump shots. That meant only Blair seemed to be around the basket, surrounded by those new jerseys of the Mountaineers. Still, it seemed that WVU players were getting after the ball a lot more. A definite hallmark of a Huggins coached team.

Show of hands of Pitt fans holding their breath or screaming in fear at the sight of Levance Fields charging off the bench in that walking boot when Ramon hit the game winner?

Question: Did Fields’ velour sweat suit (what color was that? Chocolate?) top or tie the sweat suit Aaron Gray busted out for the game last year at Seton Hall that he had to sit out with his bum ankle?





Not exaggerating Wannamaker feeds the post better than any player on this team including Levance. His entry passes are wonderful. He is going to be a player.

Comment by omar 02.07.08 @ 11:33 pm

Sam should have been pouting. I will never understand why Pitt did not make it a point to get him the ball with that 5 point lead. It is truly mind boggling. WV community college was obviously denying him the ball, but that isn’t an excuse. He should have taken all the shots when we had that lead.

Comment by omar 02.07.08 @ 11:34 pm

Fields made a sprint to ramon after his final shot..time is coming soon.

Comment by scoocher 02.08.08 @ 12:00 am

Fields easily trumps Gray in the Paulie “Walnuts” fashion contest. When you’re seven feet tall you shouldn’t be drawing further attention to yourself by donning 2,000 linear feet of velvet. That thing sailed itself over from the sweatshop in SE Asia.
Obviously stoked we won and I’m proud to be a fan of this team as it continues to battle despite adversity.
At some point, however, we’re going to need to make progress on the offensive end of the floor. I think UConn and WVU are good defensive teams, but if we want to be elite we need to find a way to “score the basketball” consistently — with or without Fields.
We can play lights-out defense, but if we let teams hang around by not taking advantage on the offensive end we’re in trouble (think Rutgers and just about every game since). I like how we looked to push the ball in the early going. Maybe that’s the way to go because our half-court sets are not producing at an acceptable rate.

Comment by Dave in Orlando 02.08.08 @ 12:28 am

Pure speculation, but I think Blair is wearing down. He’s played more minutes and more games than he ever has, and he looks to be a half step slower than he was 10 or 12 games ago. Also, he flips the ball at the hoop to much, he needs to go with way more authority. I think he’ll eventually learn to do that. Fantastic win tonight.

Comment by Crackbaldo 02.08.08 @ 12:40 am

Talked to my friend who’s a manager for the team, looks like Fields is looking at coming back for the Notre Dame game, not Louisville after valentines day

Comment by Pittfan 02.08.08 @ 1:16 am

I wouldn’t be surprised if Blair is wearing down. College ball is different from high school. The competition is better. You have to work harder. But I think all the minutes that he and the other freshmen are getting will pay off in dividends the next few seasons.

For a spin on Pitt’s situation, consider that after Duke they looked like a final four team. But they still had Fields and got run out of the gym by Dayton. So while they had final four potential, they also had first round tourney loss potential.

But with these injuries, some players that otherwise wouldn’t have gotten some serious experience. At the beginning of the season, Pitt was a ‘next year’ team, until they went on a tear, ending with the Duke game. The experience the younger players are getting right now, especially through adversity and close games, makes them a very dangerous ‘next year’ team.

That is my silver lining to a cloud that I wish had passed us by.

Comment by The Prowler 02.08.08 @ 1:27 am

Is Blair being taught by Gray how to miss bunnies? I don’t believe he is wearing down; I simply believe Blair has poor low post fundamentals. He rushes shots, and he’s off balance half of the time because he hurries himself to get the shot off. Whoever works with the big men at Pitt surely has told Blair he needs to gather himself and go up strong, if he hasn’t we need a new big man coach. Furthermore, I do believe Wannamaker does a good job of entering the ball down low and playing defense, but that’s were it ends. I also hold my breathe everytime he hands the ball. His court awareness is poor at best, and his shooting stroke is far from pure. Would someone please tell me why Dixon shys away from kids that can shot. Is it because he can’t recruit them or don’t they fit his style of basketball? Every year it boils down to the same thing, great defense but lack of offense, and looking at next years recruits it’s more of the same. I love these kids’ hearts, but they sure could be aided by having a pure shooter from the outside. It seems ever team has one but us.

Comment by LTL 02.08.08 @ 1:38 am

Ramon is a shooter.

But the problem becomes the offensive scheme. They don’t run an offense centered around a star. So in tough games, instead of running the ball through one person, the whole game is spent waiting for a player to assert themselves. Historically, in big games, especially Big East Championship and Sweet 16 games, the entire game passes by without anyone deciding to be the go to guy for that game.

The whole “team” vs “star” system is great until we need a star. Inevitably, every NCAA tournament, we need one and none arrive.

Comment by The Prowler 02.08.08 @ 1:43 am

Prowler – i disagree about the Dayton game. We were down worse to duke and came back to win. Field’s doesn’t get hurt, i’m not so positive thats in the loss column right now. But, it is what it is…

It has it all – we didn’t win, they lost it, our team has no talent, officials took away FTS….just take a look at the hoopie who wrote this dribble, that should say it all…

link to sundaygazettemail.com

“Forget the final play. Heck, forget the free throws that were taken away from the losers. Those who were here, those who saw the game close up and personal can tell you: It was a game just waiting to be placed in the West Virginia win column. And the Mountaineers kicked it.”

“The bigger picture, though, is West Virginia – especially if it is NCAA tournament caliber – should have won this game. The Pittsburgh team that Panthers coach Jamie Dixon put on the court Thursday is no more a Top 25 team than Syracuse or Cincinnati – or WVU. The team Pitt put on the Pete’s court had less talent than unranked Louisville, Cincinnati or even 13-8 Villanova.”

Comment by Stuart 02.08.08 @ 2:25 am

I agree Ramon is a shooter, but his problem is, he can’t create a shot. And now that he’s running the point, he’s to concerned about handling the ball instead of positioning himself for a shot which in fairness to him is his job, so there goes you only real outside threat. I would rather have Benjamin running the point. He has the ablility to penetrate as was seen tonight and kick it out if need be for an open jumper. I liked that Pitt tried tonight to get the ball down low, but Blair must get much better at finishing if he going to turn into the go to guy. If Blair hits half of the shots he blew in the first half, Pitt leads by ten at half and possibly opens up the outside for the second half. But then again, who’s going to make the outside shot?

Comment by LTL 02.08.08 @ 2:29 am

Dixon did a great job as a coach tonight too – i was screaming for a time out on the possession before to set something up when we were down by 1, i wanted the game winner right there. Instead they run a play, get blair the ball down low and he gets fouled – wait? what? they didn’t call it? Go figure. Anyways, they still had the TO in the pocket, and it comes up huge.

Now listen to the hoopie media – It has it all – we didn’t win, they lost it, our team has no talent, officials took away FTs…

link to sundaygazettemail.com

“Forget the final play. Heck, forget the free throws that were taken away from the losers. Those who were here, those who saw the game close up and personal can tell you: It was a game just waiting to be placed in the West Virginia win column. And the Mountaineers kicked it.”

“The bigger picture, though, is West Virginia – especially if it is NCAA tournament caliber – should have won this game. The Pittsburgh team that Panthers coach Jamie Dixon put on the court Thursday is no more a Top 25 team than Syracuse or Cincinnati – or WVU. The team Pitt put on the Pete’s court had less talent than unranked Louisville, Cincinnati or even 13-8 Villanova.”

“In other words, the Panthers are a Top 25 team in name only. They’re wearing a sheepskin. And WVU couldn’t imitate the fox.”

They just can’t take the fact they’re owned by Pitt…back to the trailers and sisterwives hoopies…

Comment by Stuart 02.08.08 @ 2:32 am

Sorry for double post…a little slow…

Comment by Stuart 02.08.08 @ 2:33 am

Stuart, Pitt may have come back against Dayton if Fields didn’t go down. But they were getting totally outplayed. It wasn’t like many games where one team goes on a run then the other team does. Dayton was playing well the entire time. And while I won’t discount the possibility of Pitt coming back like they did against Duke; it isn’t a positive sign that your team plays from down by double digits either. If Pitt played Dayton 10 times (at full strength) I think they would win 8 of them. But that night, Pitt looked bad.

There is a better argument that Pitt would be undefeated in the Big East if we still had Fields, given how close the games have been and how much we have needed a point guard.

As to the article you linked, I have been hearing that stuff too. WVU is mad because they can’t seem to buy a win against Pitt lately. If they can’t beat us, they have nothing left to do but whine and hit on their sisters.

Comment by The Prowler 02.08.08 @ 2:36 am

LTL, I agree about Ramon. My point about him was that Dixon did recruit a pure shooter. But it is just his luck that he now has to use him at the point. I too would like to see someone else with point duties so that Ramon could do more from a set shot position. But he has a phenomenal assist to turnover ratio (better than Fields’). Benjamin might be able to slash and create a little better. But Ramon does a good job protecting the ball.

And you are right, if Blair made any shots tonight, this whole conversation isn’t happening right now.

Comment by The Prowler 02.08.08 @ 2:40 am

Mitch doesn’t know basketball from basket weaving, thats why you play the game and settle it on the court!

Mitch writes for the Charlestown WVa paper what do you expect him to say? “Great win for Pitt, WVU lost to a better team”?

Mitch is a homer!

We stole their national championship dreams in football. 99.9% of the state hates us with a deep rooted passion (including Mitch).

Comment by Herm Edwards 02.08.08 @ 7:46 am

No offense, but if Wannamaker ends up as another Graves I will be dissapointed.

He has a lot more talen than Graves and should end up averaging about 15 a game.

Comment by Jon In NOVA 02.08.08 @ 8:02 am

“In other words, the Panthers are a Top 25 team in name only. They’re wearing a sheepskin. And WVU couldn’t imitate the fox.”

really…a sheep reference. Im sure when his readers hear sheep, they are not thinking of imitating a fox rather than imitating what they did to their sisters last night!!

Comment by Tray 02.08.08 @ 8:35 am

Pitt does have a go to guy. His name is Sam Young. He averages 18 points a game. He was 3-3 in the second half (two of those baskets were 3s) last night. He lead the team in scoring in 24 minutes of action. He is good.

Comment by Omar 02.08.08 @ 9:26 am

Both teams tried to give the game away. This was far from a pretty win. Pitt needs L. Fields back. Tip of the hat to Jamie, as he has held the team togather.

Comment by joel 02.08.08 @ 10:02 am

Much needed win by Pitt, a loss last night would have been a terrible blow to these young guys. Listened on the radio in Erie while watching DII Gannon Univ. ranked 10th lose the lead. Many surprised faces looking at me when Ramon hit the winning shot and I jumped out of my seat. I had to explain myself. By the way Gannon wins in OT, now 20-2.
Sam Young is a workhorse and Blair with more consistency, Pitt tough to beat, just ask Duke. That win at MSG gets bigger and bigger with each Duke win. With the injuries to Fields and Cook who would have thought we’d be 5-4 in the Big East and still looking good for the tourney.

Comment by CHY 02.08.08 @ 10:19 am

Young has had his issues recently, but agreed that we need somebody who is consistently getting the ball late in close games and he needs to be that guy, at least until Fields gets back and is in decent form.

Comment by Carmen 02.08.08 @ 10:25 am

ronald ramon = steve alford. not a bad thing if you’re running him off screens all night, but pitt doesn’t do that and ronald can’t create off the dribble so…

Comment by Scott 02.08.08 @ 10:45 am

Wow, Pitt really did destroy WVU’s football program with that late-season win..
The players have turned to drugs.

link to usatoday.com

So WVU is off the island and Louisville and Rutgers are sliding… who will be our biggest challenge for Big East football next year? USF? Cincy? UConn?

Comment by ChrisA 02.08.08 @ 10:48 am

ChrisA, how bout we win more than 5 games in a season before celebrating our BE championship and BCS bowl bid??

Comment by Scott 02.08.08 @ 11:00 am

The question was “who..”

Comment by ChrisA 02.08.08 @ 11:33 am

Chris: I think WVU, USF, Cincinnati, UConn, RU in that order. I think the Hoopies are still a very talented group. Its amazing that we’re having this conversation without the slightest hint of Louisville in the discussion though, isn’t it? I think they were one of the three or four best teams in the nation a few years back, and now suddenly they lost to Syracuse at home and their recruiting class stinks and their golden boy is gone……yikes. The fortunes of a college football program can change so quickly.

Comment by Maz 02.08.08 @ 11:42 am

Blair’s problem is too many charging fouls this yr. Its taken him out of his game.

Comment by alcofan 02.08.08 @ 12:55 pm

Hitting that 3 was the first thing Ramon has done since dropping 18 against Georgetown.

Comment by Jared in Phoenix 02.08.08 @ 3:21 pm

I attribute Benjamin’s contribution to the shooting slump mostly to his injured finger on his shooting hand. With fields back and that finger 100% this team will be significantly better.

Comment by pitt1972 02.08.08 @ 3:44 pm

To follow pitt1972’s comments, we’re still pushing it in transition pretty well without Fields, and once he’s back we should really be able to finish (without stupid turnovers or fouls) on the fast break. Converting those easy points more consistently will be a huge boost to our offensive production, even without Benjamin stepping up his shooting.

Comment by Greg in Columbia 02.08.08 @ 4:49 pm

A couple of points. First, remember that Blair is also a freshman. he is still learning and will get better. he plays at such a high level we forget that this is his first year. Second, I attend and watch more college basketball than I should and the Dayton types of games happen all the time to very good teams. I also believe that if Fields doesn’t get hurt the outcome probably would have been much closer. No guarantees, but pitt looked lost after he left early in the second half. This is exactly the type of game were “leadership” is most important. Third, Ramon has handled his PG responsibilites extremely well. Look at his assist to turnover ratio. Finally, I’ve seen wannamker play dozens of times in high school and he is much better than he has shown us thus far, not sure why he hasn’t caught on, but I expect he will develop into a star for us.

Comment by TMGPanther 02.08.08 @ 6:32 pm

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