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January 19, 2008

Liveblog: Pitt-Cinci

Filed under: Basketball,liveblog — Chas @ 4:04 pm

Keep in mind this is a liveblog, not a gamelog. If you want every shot, play charted, they have computer monkeys for that. This is comments and observations as the game goes along. Number of updates and comments will vary accordingly.

4:09: Wow, nearly 2 minutes before anyone scored. Pitt got it first, but now down a whopping 4-2. This looks to be a brutal, poor shooting game.

4:17: Not only poor shooting, lots of defense, but the video is very dark in this. Poor lighting for this, at least for TV. Pitt down 15-10 with under 12. Cinci showing some really good ball movement on offense.

Can’t say I’m worried. Cinci hitting a lot of shots. They have been very streaky, so they will hit a bad patch.

Pitt looking ragged on the road, but only 2 TOs so far.

4:25: Dixon got a technical foul for something he said to the officials. Right after Blair got called for his second foul. Pitt now down 18-10 with a little over 11 minutes.

4:27: McGhee time with Blair out. Arguably, the right kind of opponent to build his confidence as well.

4:28: Freshman mistake by McGhee tried to go 1-3 to get an offensive rebound and chased too far. Called for a foul.

4:35: Oy, Biggs. You have to be willing to give up the ball. Missed one, got the rebound and never even thought of passing out as 3 Cinci players were dropping on him. Pitt down, 20-18 with 6:07.

Benjamin is being looked at as Mike Jarvis speculates that Benjamin might have a dislocated finger (right hand) on a prior defensive play.

4:37: Benjamin going to the locker. New speculation is a torn fingernail. Ouch.

4:39: Fantastic steal by Brown, even better dish to trailing Young who trails. Scores but couldn’t convert the +1. Damn.

4:42: Vaughn loses the handle then commits his 2nd foul trying to get it back. Good news for Pitt. Keep him silent.

Pitt up 22-20 with under 5.

4:44: Wanamaker getting some minutes. Got a basket on a bit of an out of control fast break (seemed lucky) then gets bailed out a couple minutes later by a foul — but misses both free throws.

Now tied at 22 with under 4.

4:49: Benjamin has a laceration on his pinky. Return, questionable. Uh-oh.

4:51: Pitt trailed by as much as 8, but goes into the half 28-27. Ramon hit a pull-up jumper, and then Cinci hit a big three to keep it close.

Considering that Pitt was with out Blair for over half the half, and Benjamin for the final 6 minutes or so, this isn’t too bad. Cinci is playing some very, very good defense. Have to respect their effort.

Cinci not pressing, or gambling on defense. Arguably, this is the kind of defense Pitt has run. Very difficult, in-your-face, man-to-man that just will be physical and bump. No gambling for steals. Pitt only has 2 TOs.

If not for a little sloppy defense by Pitt inside — late rotating — Cinci would be down more.

The second half won’t be any easier.

5:08: Benjamin back to start the 2nd half.

5:09: Not sure what the foul was on Blair when Hryancuik blew past him? Blair yanked, but I still didn’t see the foul. He got threw him but, what foul?

Now Cinciy up 3 31-28.

5:14: Yeah, Williamson took a scrape across his eye/face by Brown before the strip. No call.

5:20: Credit to Cinci’s ball movement. They are driving Pitt’s frontcourt nuts as they are late on rotation.

Ramon with an easy basket on a goaltend.

McLain looking good taking advantage of Blair.

Young slams home a missed 3 by Benjamin. Pitt down 38-36 with under 14.

5:33: Auugh. Pitt tips in a missed FT. to give Cinci a 45-40 lead.

5:40: Pitt now down 51-40. They just aren’t getting open shots. Cinci’s defense is doing a hell of a job. Limiting opportunities for Pitt more than anything else. Pitt isn’t shooting horribly (except form outside), but not getting second chances.

Pitt starting to rush shots out of frustration.

5:44: Cinci is having a very effective shooting night. They are getting to the free throw line, because Pitt has been late on defense inside. Plus they hold a 12-2 advantage on points off turnovers even though both teams have the same amount of turnovers.

5:50: Perspective moment with UCLA losing to USC and UNC losing to Maryland — both were home losses. Wow.

6:03: Vaughn probably just put it away on the transition basket. Even with the miss.

Just a minute left, Pitt down 59-54.

Cinci has just kept complete control of the pace in this game. It’s been an impressive effort. They have closed fast to limit shots, and just been more aggressive going after the ball.

6:08: Vaughn ices the game with both FTs. 61-57

Damn. Cinci caught a break when there was no +1 when Brown caught the home run and went up with the ball. Instead, they called it a foul before the shot.

61-59 Cinci with 15.9. Cinci inbounds.

6:11: Pitt loses 62-59. Damn fine block on Benjamin’s 3. Risky, but Bishop was clean.

I credit Cinci with a great game. As I said before this game, losing to Cinci wouldn’t be a stunner. The Bearcats –especially at home — are a dangerous team. They were tremendous in almost the entire game on defense. They flew out to prevent good looks on threes, and they absolutely collapsed inside.

If you want to talk about a game where Pitt missed Fields and Cook, this was it. Both would have had success penetrating and driving inside. That was the element missing offensively for Pitt. The way Cinci slowed the pace and forced Pitt to keep using clock to find a shot was the kind of thing Pitt has had to do in the past against more athletic teams.

The Bearcats also converted their FTs. Their best FT shooters got to the line and made them. Cinci was able to penetrate better and follow shots. Getting fouls in shooting action.
Pitt actually had less TOs than the Bearcats.





We look a bit sloppy out there.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:19 pm

Not very Smart on Dixon’s part. Prob not a good idea to curse at the refs.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:24 pm

From the CBS gamelog, it looks like McGhee is doing some damage on the boards!

Comment by Lou 01.19.08 @ 4:26 pm

Benji is awesome.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:33 pm

The announcers say Benjamin has dislocated his finger.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:36 pm

is this on the internet somewhere?

Comment by Stuart 01.19.08 @ 4:38 pm

They mentioned it might have just been his fingernail being ripped off..

Comment by Chris 01.19.08 @ 4:38 pm

We can’t afford Benjamin to be out

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 4:38 pm

Nice dish Gil Brown

Comment by Chris 01.19.08 @ 4:39 pm

If you live in Central Ohio then it is being televised on ONN.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:40 pm

It’d be nice if Ramon could hit a shot or two…

Comment by Lou 01.19.08 @ 4:43 pm

We can win this even if Benjamin is out for the game. Brown is stepping up and Ramon has to hit a few shots, please.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:47 pm

i’m in detroit right now…any way i can hear it over the internet for free?

Comment by Stuart 01.19.08 @ 4:47 pm

espn says Diggs got in…true?

Comment by Stuart 01.19.08 @ 4:49 pm

I did not see Diggs, Stuart. A one point lead is fine with me..it’s a Big East road game after all.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 4:52 pm

Young and Ramon 0 of 5 from three point range. they will both hit some in the second half

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 4:53 pm

Yeah, Stu, I didn’t see Diggs out there at all.

Wannamaker played a good bit in the first half. He can’t shoot at all. Totally bricked both free throws, and can really make anything outside of three feet.

If we can knowcked a couple 3’s in the second half, and get Blair rolling a bit, we should be fine.

Comment by Crackbaldo 01.19.08 @ 4:57 pm

Young better pick it up, he has been taking bad shots all game. With Benjamin down we seem to be hanging in there. Lets go Pitt,Lets go Pitt, Lets go Pitt. Defense,Defense

Comment by Buzz 01.19.08 @ 4:58 pm

Stuart…game is on verizon DSL (if you have it) on the web…try link to fox970.com for online radio…First half–close but sloppy at times…Blair with two fouls and Benjamin’s finger injury hurt, but Brown has stepped up…now just need to “play smart” and re-engage Blair underneath!

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 01.19.08 @ 4:58 pm

How about Wanamaker, His shot is so poor.He needs to keep taking it to the hoop, that is his only chance to make a bucket.If they foul him they would be better off putting him on the line.He couldnt hit a foul shot if his life depended on it.

Comment by Buzz 01.19.08 @ 5:01 pm

Benji is back..good sign.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 5:08 pm

Young 3-9,Ramon 1-4,Biggs 2-5,Blair 1-3 considering the horrible shooting and the foul shooting problems us being in the lead is great.If we can pick up our shooting in the 2nd half we should be alright. Benjamin coming back would be nice as well we could use his point production and defense.

Comment by Buzz 01.19.08 @ 5:11 pm

Cincy is getting the better of us inside.. this needs to change, if Pitts gonna win

Comment by Matt D 01.19.08 @ 5:20 pm

We might lose because of FT’s. Horrible.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 5:36 pm

What happened to our inside game today.

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:39 pm

Very Sloppy out there. Ugly on our part.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 5:42 pm

We got Teddy Blair today

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:43 pm

UCLA and UNC go down, both at home

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:44 pm

A couple of great possessions by Pitt!! Now we need to continue this and get some stops!!

Comment by Matt D 01.19.08 @ 5:48 pm

I don’t think we have had a FG in almost 6 minutes

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:50 pm

Someone is going to have to knock down a couple of three’s if we are going to comeback

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:52 pm

We’re clawing back but we need some threes to help out.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 5:55 pm

Seems like a ton of fouls against pitt away from the ball…

Comment by Matt D 01.19.08 @ 5:57 pm

Gilbert Brown’s best shot is the follow up tip in!

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 5:58 pm

Game Over

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:02 pm

Tiger Paul…That last comment is a blogging foul!

Comment by Lou 01.19.08 @ 6:06 pm

excuse my language but the refs are absolutely fucking us

Comment by the breast stroke is the best stroke 01.19.08 @ 6:08 pm

Just Frustration

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:08 pm

Just frustration Lou

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:10 pm

Well we had a shot at the end. After trailing 13 I didn’t think we had a chance to be there. If we had 2 more minutes, we win by three or so.

Comment by Panthoor 01.19.08 @ 6:12 pm

Nice try at a comeback, but overall that was a poor performance.

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:12 pm

Not much consolation, but the Panthers made it respectable.

Comment by Lou 01.19.08 @ 6:12 pm

Its just hard to win on the road… Credit Cincy tho, even if it seemed like they got the calls. They played stong D throughout. Pitts no-quit effort was admirable once again. As a pretty young team, they just got to learn from this and get ready for St. Johns.

Comment by Matt D 01.19.08 @ 6:16 pm

Good close, but down by 13 with six minutes left was too much to overcome on the road….and our D was a bit spotty at times (maybe Blair played a bit too conservative on D to avoid his fourth, but we seemed to let them drive the lane in the second half)…but as Chas said before the game winning on the road in the Big East is less than a 25% probability….

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 01.19.08 @ 6:17 pm

if you think you are an ncaa tourny team this was another like nova, that could bite us later. can’t beat g’town one nite, lose to cincy the next. hate to say it, but now that the shooting is cooling off, this could be a frequent result.

Comment by Kurt 01.19.08 @ 6:19 pm

Grizzly Blair seems to go into hibernation and only come out for the big games. waht’s that all about. he does us no good sitting on the bench. Freshman mistakes.

The passing in this game was non-existant. I haven’t seen the stats, but I’m pretty sure our assist ratio on scoring was one of the lowest for the season.

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:20 pm

meant “existent’

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:22 pm

i like dejuan blair as much as the next guy but jamie dixon has got to relize that when cincy was on that ten point run you have to take him out. his d was terrible and had no offense and a few turnovers

Comment by pitpanther01 01.19.08 @ 6:22 pm

Young, Ramon and Brown zero for 9 from three point range. Horrible!

Comment by Tiger Paul 01.19.08 @ 6:24 pm

Hard to fault the effort when we are so banged up.
May have to go to the zone more to keep Blair out of foul trouble–this season is starting to remind me of the Monty Python movie (” a mere fleshwound”)with Cook,Fields, an injured Benjamin, and Ramon playing with a dislocated shoulder and probable torn rotator cuff–we can’t even practice with 10 guys at this point–no one will give us grief losing to a team that lost to Memphis by 2 that has beaten 8 out of 9 teams at home, especially when NC and UCLA lose at home to unranked teams.

Comment by tph60 01.19.08 @ 6:28 pm

the refs bitch-slapped us….missed the backcourt violation, a lot of fouls on us away from the basket on their good shooters, that one missed offensive interference, the technical on dixon, gilbert brown should have had an “and one”….so shitty

Comment by yippie skippie 01.19.08 @ 6:49 pm

I learned a long time ago not to react to a loss in a BB game like it was a FB game. We just missed too many three’s. All this loss does is even out the GT win. We are still a very good team, that if we can get to the tournament and get hot, is capable of a deep run. I will say this, working to get the ball in to Blair with less than 3 min and we are down 7 or 9 points is not the best decison making I have seen. He is a great player that will only get better, but in those situations the shots should be taken by Ramon, Benjamin or Young. And no, the top teams don’t win all of these games. If that was the case, NC and UCLA would not have lost today.

Comment by HbgFrank 01.19.08 @ 7:13 pm

Not much more to add to this thread in terms of insight since I substantially agree with most of what’s been said, so on a totally unrelated note, but best of luck to Joe Clermond in the East-West Shrine Game.

Comment by johnny 01.19.08 @ 9:01 pm

They are a very hard team to figure out. They give 100% on the effort side but at times make very poor choices on shot selection. They were a bit cold from 3-point range but that happens, remember they are a young team, BE road games are no gimmie.

Hopefully in the BE they can go undefeated at home and split on the road.

If Fields returns in time to work himself into game shape they could be capable of making a run.

Comment by Ace Rothstein 01.20.08 @ 8:23 am

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