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April 22, 2007

The Curse on the 2004 Recruits?

Filed under: Football,History,Recruiting — Chas @ 11:34 am

I don’t know what bitter Pitt fan did it. I just don’t want to end up on his bad side. It just keeps getting stranger. The collapse of one of Pitt’s best recruiting class in a couple decades came with the confluence of the Big East being a complete mess, Pitt’s 2003 bitter disappointment of a season, the questions that began swirling around Walt Harris led to a complete picking off of verbal after verbal.

Yet, aside from being part of what cost Harris his job, Pitt didn’t actually suffer for the lost players the way the players themselves have:

Johnny Peyton, WR: signed with USF, looked good as a freshman, then got in the doghouse and eventually quit football.

Andrew Johnson, RB: changed to Miami, never was able to climb the depth chart and suffered injuries; currently at Akron after transferring.

Anthony Morelli, QB: had his redshirt burned for no apparent reason at PSU, can’t shake the “dumb” label of not being able to read defenses, and played such a lackluster first season as starter that most PSU fans are hanging their high hopes on the fact that he didn’t suck in the Outback Bowl.

James Bryant, LB: moved to fullback because of depth chart issues, against his wishes; has been suspended numerous times; and is now transferring as a senior because he still wants to play linebacker.

Only Alphonso Smith (CB) seems to be doing okay for himself at Wake Forest.

Not that there is much else to see from the 2004 recruiting class. Also transferring: Brandon Mason, Rashad Jennings, Robbie Agnone, Kelvin Chandler, and Tyler Tipton. Special mention to Steven Walker who was kicked off the team and out of school after the first semester, and is now in prison for murder.

There were/are some good ones from the class: Darrelle Revis, Derek Kinder, Scott McKillop, Darrell Strong, Marcel Pestano.

But, wow. It’s stunning to realize that as demoralizing as it was to lose out on all of those players back then, it really wouldn’t make much of a difference now or the past couple years with on the field action.





On the bball front, Tyler Smith said he’s transfering from Iowa. Anybody have a clue to where? I know we were in the running to get him out of high school and he was a solid player for the hawkeyes last year.

Comment by Paul 04.22.07 @ 2:32 pm

Looks like he wants to go to Tennessee.

link to story.scout.com

Comment by Dennis 04.22.07 @ 2:44 pm

This is not surprising. It happens when a Head Coach takes the easy road in recruiting and goes for flash in the pan kids vice taking a hard look at who you’re trying to entice to spend fours years in your program. Not all of those kids were marginal of course, but more than a few were.

Harris was deficient on a lot of fronts, this is just one of them.

Comment by Reed 04.22.07 @ 5:57 pm

Chas, you are forgetting to account for what mastermind Dave Wannstedt and his coaching staff would have done to develop these kids. Surely they would have ended up stars at Pitt. I mean, look at what they’ve done with…

um…

Just wait and see!

Comment by Keith 04.22.07 @ 6:07 pm

Reed,

I like you, and I know you aren’t particularly fond of Harris, but with all due respect, what the hell does that mean?

If a coach only recruits guys who are 2-3 stars that he wants to develop, then the coach gets blasted for not getting better players, and not advancing the program. If he goes for the bigger fish, he stands a chance on getting burned. Either by not getting them or them not panning out.

If anything, this points to the sheer hit and miss of the nature of recruiting. Losing those recruits dropped the rankings for Pitt’s recruiting class from the teens to nearly 50. Miami benefited with a top tier recruiting class with Johnson and Bryant. Take a look at how that fell apart.

Comment by Chas 04.22.07 @ 10:01 pm

Guess I was in a bad mood – since I posted at 5:57 pm I must have missed my afternoon nap.

Not sure that the previous coach’s intent was to develop 2-3 star players, and to his credit he can’t be held responsible for recruits re-neging on committments.

Comment by Reed 04.23.07 @ 11:27 am

Just as a bit of trivia, Steven Walker was kicked off the team for stealing a bunch of wallets from residents of Sutherland Hall his freshman year. Mine was one of them, and I filed one of the initial police reports against him. I feel like I’m a part of history.

Comment by Caleb 04.23.07 @ 7:23 pm

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