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December 20, 2006

Circles and Numbers

Filed under: Basketball,History,Internet,Media,Numbers — Chas @ 4:50 pm

An amusing mailbag thread has been going through SI.com’s Grant Wahl column. He wrote a piece lauding Ben Howland for bringing East Coast toughness to the West Coast and UCLA. Someone countered that Howland is from Cali and got his fundamentals at UC-Santa Barbara. Wahl, conceded the point and then went further to point out that in the early ’90s the great defense came out of the West with UNLV and Jerry Tarkanian. This led to yet another point.

I find it interesting that in your answer about Ben Howland and “East Coast” basketball that you mention as the best defensive team of the last two decades Jerry Tarkanian’s UNLV running the “amoeba” defense in the early ’90s. To close the loop the whole way, the assistant coach that brought the amoeba to UNLV was Tim Grgurich. Grgurich learned the amoeba defense while a young assistant (he was also later the head coach) at, you guessed it, Pitt in the early 70s. The head coach at Pitt then was a classy gentleman by the name of Buzz Ridl. I don’t know if the amoeba defense was Ridl’s invention, but his teams used it extensively.
— Joe Smith, North Huntingdon, Pa.

Great stuff, Joe, and thanks for the amplification. The man known affectionately as Timgurg is another highly regarded hoops mind among the cognoscenti who deserves more widespread attention. Strange thing: when you do a Google search of “amoeba defense grgurich ridl” you get one result, which happens to be in … Italian. We aren’t the greatest Italian reader, but there’s some useful stuff in here if you’re curious, including an origin citation to a 1971-72 Pitt game that will serve as our Hoops Lingo item of the week.

I keep hoping that Pitt will make a better effort to reach Grgurich, to come back and talk to the basketball team. Maybe even give some advice and some tips. Grgurich is a great basketball mind and one of the best career assistants — he was never one for the rubber chicken circuit and gladhanding portion.
Luke Winn was looking at the Pomeroy stats and sees concern for Pitt because of the defense.

Pitt is both highest-ranked team on the list and the most surprising inclusion. Just a year ago the Panthers finished 12th in the nation in defensive efficiency with a rating of 89.8 — and despite losing only one major player, Carl Krauser, have slipped to 115th. Pitt coach Jamie Dixon is a disciple of UCLA’s Ben Howland (their teams were Nos. 1 and 2 in the country earlier this month) but the Panthers have turned very un-Howland-like in 2006-07, riskily relying on an elite offense to make up for an average D. It’s easy to blame the lapse on Krauser’s absence, but Pitt is also giving up more offensive boards: The Panthers ranked sixth in the nation in 2005-06 in percentage of offensive rebounds allowed (26.3), while in ’06-07 they’re 69th (30.7 percent).

I honestly think the defense and rebounding will be tightening up soon. It’s not going to reach last year’s numbers, but it will improve.





The biggest area we miss Krauser at is rebounding. Our rebounding at the guard position is nowhere where it was last year. Krauser was the best rebounding guard I have ever seen.. especially on a team with good big men. This is being sorely overlooked.

Comment by Jamie H 12.20.06 @ 6:08 pm

The defensive intensity has been receding for years in proportion to the ascent of the program. The D really wasn’t that overpowering last year at all; decent (not great) rebounding and better offensive play overall, but especially from Gray trumped all.

Ironically our reputation for being a hardworking defensive team still persists, and has limited our ability to recruit elite players who run screaming from the thought. But at the same time the team needs those elite players (or at least ONE of them) to step up the O now that the team as a whole no longer works as hard on D.

I’m not sure where it will end but even before the Wisky shellacking the other day, I was feeling somewhat queasy about this team and it’s (over)rating. Yeah they won all the games, but the opponents weren’t getting physically dominated. Swill like Duquense and Robert Morris were having far too easy of a time. The final scores hid a good bit of lazy, sloppy play and lack of intensity. True that can happen in OOC games but in most games, we don’t look like we’re taking it to the opponent; it’s usually the opposite. Hopefully my misgivings are just a leftover from the nausea of football season.

Comment by geeman2001 12.20.06 @ 6:23 pm

Buzz Ridl’s long-time assistant Fran Webster, who also coached Tennis at Pitt was the developer of the Amoeba defense which the Billy Knight led team used to advance to the regional final and UNLV later used in their national championship year.

Comment by Pitt72 12.20.06 @ 6:55 pm

Its good to see that someone remembers Buzz Ridl and Fran Webster – they were both special people and true gentlemen.

Comment by Reed 12.21.06 @ 6:47 am

Beginning in 1978, Fran Webster published a series pamphlets and books on the Amoeba. The latest addition is still in print and is available at amazon.com.

Comment by Gary W 12.27.06 @ 3:28 pm

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