So, let me get this straight. The defense gives up over 600 yards, and the problem for Pitt is that they can’t run the ball?
Pitt’s defense came up small against West Virginia Thursday, which isn’t surprising because the Panthers’ defense has struggled for years. And Pitt’s lack of a running game in big games — the Panthers had minus-1 yard rushing — is a familiar story as well.
Both areas were supposed to be addressed when Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt was hired, but this season has illustrated there isn’t any quick or easy fix to either problem. The Panthers are not yet good enough on either line to knock anybody off the ball.
Pitt was built to play finesse football and is struggling to learn how to play with power. That transition is never easy, nor does it happen overnight.
And because of Pitt’s inability to run the football or stop anyone … another familiar theme was on display Thursday: a great performance by a Pitt quarterback was wasted.
Pitt has had a five-year run of quarterbacking excellence, starting with Rod Rutherford (2002-03) and now with Tyler Palko (2004-present), and has little to show for it other than one major bowl, a few exciting moments and a lot of glitzy statistics.
So, um last week when Stephens-Howling ran for 150+ yards and the defense gave up 317 on the ground, the problem again was the running game.
Look, I freely admit my anti-Rhoads bias. I don’t think it’s a secret. You just can’t claim to me that the problem for Pitt this year rests equally on the running game and run defense.
Not much of an article and even less about the pathetic story of stopping the run. And all respect to Bruce (FireWalt), but to even consider absolving Paul Rhoads for his role in the run defense — and the recruiting — is beyond moronic. Last I checked, the assistants play something of a role. We credit Dave Walker for Collier, Aubrey Hill and Charlie Partridge for helping get kids from Floriday. Then Rhoads deserves more than a fair amount of blame. As I pointed out, after a couple years of shaping the defense and doing some recruiting, the run defense took a major hit. This is not something new, and not something you can blame only on Harris. As others have pointed out, despite the mid-range recruiting classes, Pitt was still out-recruiting teams like WVU and Rutgers. There’s more than a little to do with developing the talent on hand.
Rhoads was never about blitzing. Don’t pull revisionist crap. He was about playing the corners and safeties off to avoid giving up the big play. Rhoads and Wannstedt are admittedly similar styles of not blitzing and counting on the base line to get penetration. We’ve been screaming bloody murder about the poor tackling, poor fundamentals and poor schemes on the defense since 2003.
Oh, and for further salt in the wounds. Syracuse beat UConn 20-14. It wasn’t even that close. It was 20-7 before a late TD made it respectable.
It’s amazing how these guys will write a 500 word article ripping the awful run defense, then turn around and praise Rhoads for being a great coach! Do they really think the readers are that stupid? Wait, don’t answer that …
The PG was the same paper that claims to be “objective” but cheerleads for PSU every week because the editor is a Nit alum. Ergo today’s headline “PSU Seniors showing their class.” Pitt would never get a gushy ass-smooching headline like that. Not that we deserve any this year. But up and down the schedule, PSU has exactly the same number of impressive victories as we do this year (0).
By the way, Cincinnati is up 17-0 over Rutgers.
I also agree that Cook or Smizik should do it more blatantly in their op-ed pieces … they certainly did so with Harris, mocking him and calling for his head every week in 2004. And Walt took the team to a BCS game!!! WVU aside, how do they keep from screaming about giving up 400 yards rushing every game to teams that then nearly get shut out the following week?
I guess Rhoads must be much more charming to them when they venture into the UPMC for free lunches. Or they just hate Pitt fans and refuse to give us the satisfaction…
Too bad the Bearcats just upset Rutgers…
This video is on the YouTube most viewed videos page today. It’s Pat White making fun of the stadium sound system’s dorky panther growl. Pretty funny. RRRREOWW
Makes you wonder what Rhoads is thinking when the obvious works so well.
As an aside, it looks like our best win of the year will be our victory over Cincinnati. A bit disconcerting.
Granted, Rutgers blew that game in the first quarter with turnovers and their weakness (Teel) was exposed – just as Omar said it would be. And UCONN didn’t play well either. But we have seen this leveling of the conference all year. In the long run, I think it will be good for the conference overall. Three teams 9-1, and 4-1 in conference play. Much better that in 2004 when a 8-4 PITT team went to our BCS bid. The sad thing though is that it also puts PITT firmly in the middle-bottom of the BE. The worst record so far is Syracuse at 4-7 overall, again – not too bad of a record for a bottom dweller, and to beat a higher ranked conference team yesterday shows that even the bottom feeder isn’t terrible.
But this is what I like about college football as opposed to the Pros. We beat Cincy; Rutgers beats us and Cincy beats Rutgers – you never know what you’re going to get each week.
Really though, as far as the national media respect goes, it will all depend on how the BE teams do out of conference against their bowl opponents – and I think they will do OK.
Zeise is entertaining at best and I like to read what he has to say, but he sure won’t go out on a limb in his opinions.
Also, how come no pundits are bitching about the lack of defense in the OSU-Michigan game as they did in the Louisville-WVU game (or the title game last year), 900+ total yards and 81 points. This just goes to show that there is a marked anti-East Coast prejudice nowadays.
The basketball team is unbelievably good. It is wonderful to see such a talented team share the ball like these kids. I used to have a few issues with Jamie Dixon but he is an excellent coach and a great example for the kids. Pitt made an excellent decision to sign him long term and they should extend his contract after this season.
I went to the UC, RU game last night in Cincy, UC mixed up their D to confuse RU’s QB. UC sold out to stop the run and expose RU’s sorry passing game. Something that Pitt did not or could not do.
In the end UC was very well prepared and very fired up for the game. UC has a shot to win 7 games. UC gets leftovers in the recruiting battles and I do believe UC’s coach is in his 2nd or 3rd year, face it UC has a very good coach and has shown progress in making his team better as the season has moved along.
W can make any excuse he wants, we have regressed since our 6-1 start and there is a good chance we can finsh on a 5 game losing streak.
I’m as bummed out as anyone else, very frustrating. Hopefully the DC is gone at this time next week.
I’m looking forward to basketball, this team looks special.
I posted on the other site that even though people won’t acknowledge it, 6-6 is better than 5-6. Imagine how we’d feel if we recognized all these shortcomings the team has, and then had to look at a losing record on top of it. It’s not much consolation, but is at least something.
And, I’ll still be optimistic going into next years training camp, if for nothing else than to see some of the young kids get more playing time. I’m looking forward to seeing how Stull does, and if Bostick can win the starting job. Maybe Dickerson and Fields or Murray will be allowed to start and contribute, we’ll have new O-line guys – maybe Jacobson can start & Pinkston can go full out, etc…
To me being a fan does not revolve around just wins & losses – but I really would love to see us make the improvements we were expecting this year.
I lay tha blame at DW’s feet. He wants the D to be like it was for him at the U. That is all fine and dandy if you have the players to do it and particularly the D line. Survey says he does not have the players to do it. So why in the sam he** did he not adjust to give the team AND FANS a better chance to pick up those 1 to possibly 3 victories?
As for Rhoades, he has to go if for no other reason than to put a fresh face at DC. Ultimately, as I had said, Rhoades failure must be seen as DW’s failure.
There is no reason for not giving your team the best shot to win and that shot extends to the O side of the ball as well. Running a 170 lb 5’7″ back as the feature back consistantly is outragious too say the least. Anybody with a half a brain would have used LHS situationally and started CC and most of the time used him in a one back, two TE sets.
But alas that is another story.
geeman2001: took a look, psu has 4 losses, those teams are a combined 44-3. we sure as hell can’t say that…..
where is everybody that said how GREAT this rutgers team is and that it was okay for pitt to loose to them. wow, look what happens when you play defense and adapt……
this team will be worse next year without palko – no matter who is coaching the “d”……
louisville – wvu isn’t even in the same league as osu – michigan, not a bias, just fact. both are those teams are better than anything else in this conference….
pat white making fun of the panther noise is the FUNNIEST thing around…….
big east is NOT more balanced than you thought, just still not a very strong conference with some ok teams……
way too many empty seats for the wvu game – actually looks BAD, national tv, the backyard brawl and that is the best crowd????
nick sukay will NOT come to PITT….
wvu will dominate this conference for years to come, better coaching AND better recruiting……
The BE is in many respects a very young conference since the defections, and while it’s not as good as the SEC or Big Ten, it’s still competitive both in conference (hence the WVU/Louisville/Rutgers merry-ground) and out of conference (perhaps best non-con winning %) – again, the bowl games will be a gage of its national strength. I think we do have to wait a few years to allow the BE to schedule and play some quality non-con games, which the programs are doing, and to allow some of the up and coming programs to mature (UCONN, USF, Cincy). To me, what the national media thinks about the BE takes a back seat to how the in-conference games are played. This is a conference where any team can rise up and either beat or play closely another, and that makes it fun to watch. It goes back to the root of what we want from our fan experience, and I am pretty satisfied with the level of competition in the conference – regardless if it results in a national championship.
Can’t remember any posts that said Rutgers was a GREAT team, but lots that said they are a good team and deserve recognition – and they do. 9-1 is a damn good record, especially for a program that was the butt of jokes two years ago. You can’t cast a pall on their whole season for losing one game – otherwise every team but OSU and Boise State suck.
By the way, Colonel Jessup also alluded to the critics of what he did for a living “sitting around at their cocktail parties talking about freedom, while his men were putting their asses on the line defending it.” So, I’ll agree that DW is inflexible, but I’ll also give him his full 4 years before I call for his head because as much as I follow PITT football, I’m still a fan sitting on the outside looking in. It could be (hopefully, maybe, perhaps) that DW’s grand plan for this team could actually work out, and these last two years – as painful as they have been to watch – could be building blocks to bigger and better things. Anyway, we’ll find out starting next year.
Look, I’m not a Rhoads fan myself. But Wanny who I am a fan of is just as responsible because he is the fan of base defense. Rhoads was never a base defense guy. Check out that fact and get back to me. I just think blind hatred towards one guy is not the depth of the problem.