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September 16, 2006

Michigan St.-Pitt

Filed under: Admin,Bloggers — Chas @ 10:19 am

Since the homefront is in flux, I’m not making the trip to Pittsburgh today. I am, however, still watching the game. Going over to a friend who has the dish (and ESPN2 Alternative).
I will be live blogging it over at AOL today.





Not to get ahead of myself, but this first quarter has been great – 8 first downs, 60 rushing yards, and the D holding to punts and forcing a turnover? Keep it up guys!

Comment by Aaron 09.16.06 @ 12:45 pm

Live blog too slow. almost 15 mins behind the actual game. Good effort but just too slow.
Trying to find live update but difficulty. The Capitali$t are really making it difficult not to spend money to see the game or get updates.

Comment by pitt fan 09.16.06 @ 12:48 pm

An onside kick? That’s crazy/brilliant.

Comment by Jim in Harrisburg 09.16.06 @ 12:48 pm

pitt fan, I’m just using the espn.com Gamecast and it’s been working great.

Comment by Aaron 09.16.06 @ 12:53 pm

Thanks Aaron. I cnnsi has one that seems to be updated. too.link to sportsillustrated.cnn.com

Comment by pitt fan 09.16.06 @ 12:56 pm

They will adjust JC. Be patient.

Comment by pitt fan 09.16.06 @ 1:36 pm

Wow dude, relax. It’s down to thirty minutes to decide the game, and we get the ball first. Pitt needs to refocus itself on the run, eating up the clock and keeping the Stanton’s option off the field. As far as the defense goes, I’m sure Big Dave will remind them at half to stay committed to their fronts, not to bite on the easy fake. JC, MSU isn’t USC. They will have another 3 and out.

Yeah, Pitt did have a bad quarter. But it’s still 30 minutes to the end of the game. No way is this game over yet.

Comment by Aaron 09.16.06 @ 1:42 pm

Hey, we knew MSU had a great offense coming in – and they are showing it. If we don’t pull this one out, and its a long shot, we’re 2-1. Just about where we’d thought we’d be.

We are better than last year, and we’ll win our share of games.

Comment by Reed Kohberger 09.16.06 @ 2:15 pm

JC was right…

Comment by matt 09.16.06 @ 2:22 pm

Our defense is getting embarassed right now.

Comment by Jeff 09.16.06 @ 2:23 pm

If it bothers you so much than why watch the game.

Comment by Kenny 09.16.06 @ 2:43 pm

i agree…to come out and get absolutely embarassed on defense is really bad. we heard about team speed but cant stop the option. we are giving them a 15yrd cushion for as many underneath passes as they want. and then they cant make tackles once they catch it. just a horrible game. glad they have time to get ready for UL and WVU

Comment by matt 09.16.06 @ 2:45 pm

I’m not able to see the game down here in Tennessee. What side do they run the option to, is it Campbell’s side?

Comment by Kenny 09.16.06 @ 2:48 pm

It makes sense that they would use the option against Pitt. Pitt’s DBs play off the line, they use a 4 man line, they have a new WSLB who can get eat up by their monster O lineman, their use of the option opens up passing lanes for Stanton and his receivers.

It also does not help that our running O is struggling.

Still it is only one game. Just because we won the first two games does not mean we were a great or overly good team. The key for them is to learn from this. Also what they do in the next two games and then against their next BE oppoment will be important.

Comment by Kenny 09.16.06 @ 2:59 pm

Well, tha kinda sucked.

Comment by Reed Kohberger 09.16.06 @ 3:32 pm

How does Paul Rhoads keep his job? Seriously? Jumping up and down like a moron shouldn’t be enough, or else I’d have the job. THis happens year in and year out. The opponent has one decent player and runs one decent play over and over and over and this guy never has a clue how to adjust and stop it. The 2nd quarter was a joke, but I figured, hey at least it’s 10-10 and now we can adjust and stop the option to the left. Uh, no. Geez. At the very least bring up all the DBs and overcommit, as wrong as that is, but make them beat you some other way. He has to go, preferably now.

Comment by geeman2001 09.16.06 @ 3:46 pm

This was a very frustrating loss for Pitt and a loss that does not bode well for the Pitt team for the rest of the season

MSU’s option play and the way Pitt was unable to adjust is a bad portent of the WVU game

Stanton and his RB by committee does not equal White and Slaton

If Wanny/Rhoades do not figure this out and soon this team will be toasted by the WVU offense

I know they don’t have the Pass offense that MSU has but they gave up 300+ yards on the ground (116 in the 2nd Quarter alone)

Comment by Dave 09.16.06 @ 3:53 pm

Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. It’s one loss. Our team has a chance to have a winning record this year – and we are two games ahead at the same point we were last year.

We might not beat WVU, probably not, and maybe not Louisville either. But, we’ll get more wins.

I don’t think anyone that really followed PITT over the summer training camp expected us to go undefeated, or even 9-3 or 10-2 – most people (myself included) thought 7-5 was reasonable, and it still is.

Comment by Reed Kohberger 09.16.06 @ 4:02 pm

btw did any of you notice whether or not Rhoades made and adjustment at halftime and put a spy on Stanton? I do not want to criticize him for not making any adjustments if he did so and they just did not work.

It didn’t appear so, but it may just be that the Pitt D was outmuscled and the adjustment just was not effective

If he did not make an adjustment then F-Paul Rhoades…

Comment by Dave 09.16.06 @ 4:14 pm

It all comes down to stopping the run, or if it cannot be stopped, having a run game of your own. Today, Pitt could neither stop the run, nor establish a run game. Yes… there are still plenty of games to go this season, and nobody thought we would go undefeated, but we really needed this win to prove something to ourselves. Until next week v. The Citadel.

Comment by Harlan in Atlanta 09.16.06 @ 4:17 pm

Reed,

No arguement that we will see improvement. You are probably right that I was overly optimistic after the first 2 games.

The only realistic thing I want from Pitt at this point is respectability. I wouldn’t be so disappointed if they lost 24-21 today.

I think a teams progress should be measured by their level of performance with peers (I know that is a subjective bar).

I do not think the level of play today indicated that we are moving in that direction.

But you are right–I guess the frustration of seeing the same thing year in and year out has worn thin on me.

Comment by Dave 09.16.06 @ 4:22 pm

Here is what I can accept:
-Losing to a good team.
-Losing to an average team but playing competively.

Here is what I cannot accept:
-Losing and not playing competively against an average team.

Here is what has me spun up into a dimension of pissed off that I have never experienced.
-Getting our ass kicked by an average team the same way we have gotten our ass kicked by average teams for the last 3 or 4 years…..a simple f’ing option play.

Comment by JC2 09.16.06 @ 4:27 pm

Complete debacle….this game reminded me of ND last year, couldn’t stop the run, couldn’t stop a semi-runner quarterback…..pathetic, absolutely pathetic….thank goodness we play two shit teams in a row……we better not look past Syracuse, or we might not get 7 wins…..maybe I just need to sleep on this game, but other than the last two drives and the first quarter, I’m not happy, and the fucking security guards took my two flasks with 4 minutes in the game….what bullshit……..how much longer do we have to wait until we get to the promised land?

Comment by Marco 09.16.06 @ 4:30 pm

I was at the game. Rhodes did make an adjustment and blitzed and stopped Stanton – with about 3 minutes left in the game. We had no spy on Stanton. Mich St lined up in a spread with 3 wide receivers and we played a 4-3 defense with Clint Session covering the WR. The short passing game was there for them in the second half.

And the missed tackles were very bad – but not the same as last year, the “matador” out-of-position missed tackles. These were lower-the-shoulder bounce-off-the-guy missed tackles, where they just ran over us.

I thought Mich St would score like this. I just thought we’d keep up. Terrible game for Stong with many drops. Terrible game for Kennard Cox.

Comment by Kevin 09.16.06 @ 4:54 pm

Wow, guys. This team finished under .500 last year and you’re all saying “now there’s NO chance we’ll beat WVU and L’ville”? Shit, the fact that this team is 2-1 right now should be making you crap your pants. I for one didn’t expect this team to even play with the two best teams in the Big East. Methinks that some people got a little too excited about beating a weak ACC team, and almost blowing a game to a lower tier Big East team.

Point in case, if you think that MSU and Pitt were on the same level before this game started, you were just wrong.

Oh, and as far as the Big East sucking, JC, L’ville looks pretty damn good right now against Miami. About to be 24-7, without Brohm, who got injured. So Pitt may suck, but the conference is gaining back some respect, regardless of how bad Pitt lost today.

Comment by Aaron 09.16.06 @ 5:41 pm

Don’t let the offense off the hook, either. The running game was spotty again, wide receivers simply weren’t getting open, dropping passes when they did get open, Palko was pressing again.

You can fault the scheme and Paul Rhoads or Wanny or Cavanaugh if you want–I’m not saying there’s no reason to do so–but with the way this team’s been coming up short in so many areas, I have to say the biggest problem is just a lack of talent and athleticism on the team.

Comment by Jeff 09.16.06 @ 6:22 pm

nothing like getting bitch slapped back into reality. I was at the game and I am not exxagerating when I say how much bigger (enormous) the MI o Line was compared to our d line, it was a huge mismatch and that was obvious in the second half. Its hard to believe that the first quarter team was the same third quarter team. This game made me realize I am actually not looking forward to the wvu game this year. Poor tackling, no run defense (again) and it looked like our offense was bottled up similar to the first half of the cinci game. uuuuggghhhhhh

Comment by Rex 09.16.06 @ 6:24 pm

one cool part of the game is I sat 2 rows down from coach Dixon, Aaron Gray, Chevy Troutman and Brandin knight. Gray was sporting the throwback Dorsett jersey.

Comment by Rex 09.16.06 @ 6:29 pm

Off the subject….

Who were the quarterbacks between Van Pelt and Gonzalez? We must have been drunk those 5-6 years….none of us at this tailgate can remember. Help us Obi-wan, you’re our only hope.

Comment by apostles03 09.16.06 @ 6:31 pm

I saw a stat on ESPN that said since 2001, Pitt is in the top three in Division I for creating expectations, then falling woefully short of them, and as of today they’re second in the nation in number of fans’ hearts ripped out over that same time frame.

Okay, I didn’t see that stat on ESPN, but it’s true, nonetheless.

Comment by Jeff 09.16.06 @ 6:49 pm

Anybody else wodering why Dorin Dickerson still has yet to have a meaningful touch. And where did the deep ball go. It was a piss pour excuse for a football team today. The offense was bad and Palko tried forcing too many balls. The first play after the onside kick should have gone deep to Kinder and just let the play maker make the play and put the game out of reach. I know MSU is good, but we gave them the game we were not prepared and it was just a disappointing game for a team that looked so good in the first quarter.

Comment by Rob 09.16.06 @ 7:24 pm

Vitginia lost to Western Michigan today. ’nuff said.

Comment by steve 09.16.06 @ 7:51 pm

“Who were the quarterbacks between Van Pelt and Gonzalez? We must have been drunk those 5-6 years….none of us at this tailgate can remember. Help us Obi-wan, you’re our only hope.”

I think I remember a guy named Turman….something like that.

Comment by Ryan M 09.16.06 @ 7:59 pm

I think we were looking past MSU to the big game against Citadel.

OK, we pretty much sucked. But, as disappointed as I am, I still think we’re moving in the right direction as a program.

Let’s get a couple more wins under our belt, and get ready for the hard part of our schedule.

Good points about Rhodes though, if this lack of defensive adaptability keeps up Wanny might have to get his own D coordinator in the fold.

Still a fan.

Comment by Reed Kohberger 09.16.06 @ 8:02 pm

I believe the majority on this board before this game believed that MSU had the possibility to score a bunch of points against Pitt. Well they did. Also I believe many here understood and accepted that this team would beat lesser teams. Well they lost to a better team.

You can carp about the O and the D but the fact still remains that is a team that is only a year removed from a losing season in which they on a consistent basis lost to inferior teams.

This is a team that is a work in progress and said work is on both O and D. He** you got first year starters on both sides of the line and there are many of them who never played in a college Division one game before.

Pitt’s football program in the last decade or so was mediocre to good and NOT GREAT! G

Where the he** does all this expectation for Pitt to be a great team come from all of a sudden. Look at the freakin roster. You got an O line that last year just plain sucked until the latter part of the season but even then they sucked. The O itself struggled like an ashtmatic weezing for air. The defensive line may as well been playing for Central Catholic or Woodland HIlls.

It cannot be stated enough that this team is a work in progress. Like I said lets see how they do in the next 3 games. Also I wonder how MSU does againt ND.

It is irrational to expect this young team to beat better teams.

Comment by Kenny 09.16.06 @ 8:06 pm

Big East did pretty well this weekend though. The Orange won, Rutgers won, Louisville killed Miami, WVU whacked Maryland.

I thought UCONN might win but they lost.

Comment by Reed Kohberger 09.16.06 @ 8:10 pm

“”I thought we came in ready to play this afternoon,” said Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt. “I thought our guys came into this game believing they could win, but expecting somebody else to do it for them. We didn’t make a play today, plain and simple. You have to give them credit, but we just didn’t make a play. We didn’t make a catch, we didn’t make a block, we didn’t make a sack, we just didn’t do anything to give ourselves a chance to win.””

Post mortem by Wanny

Comment by Kenny 09.16.06 @ 8:15 pm

Matt Lytle is the only QB I can think of from the 90s gap……….

Comment by SH98 09.16.06 @ 8:58 pm

John Ryan is probably the best QB we had between Van Pelt and Gonzalez. He threw too many picks in the flat but a nice deep pass.

Comment by geeman2001 09.16.06 @ 9:20 pm

Wanny should have also apoligized to the fans for his performance as well. If thats the best we can do with 8 days of preparation then the fans should be refunded their money they paid for tickets. Once again we all knew the first 2 teams weren’t that good, but where was the stuff that worked from the first 2 games. And could Wanny finally just for one play put Dorin Dickerson in. He told us how they were gonna work him into the offense well what are we saving him for. Lets put the best players in the game.

Comment by Rob 09.16.06 @ 10:13 pm

The buzz on the radio after the game was that Dickerson is probably going to be reshirted unless they need him in an emergency. And the stats show that Pitt averaged over 4 yards a rush yesterday. The problem was that Darrel Strong dropped too many passes and the defense didn’t stop anyone. We got too far behind and had to abandon the run.

Comment by Kevin 09.17.06 @ 9:27 am

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